MMORPG | Why MMOs Feel BORING Now | MMOpinion

[@dragonfangalexander]

My theory is that not having ever played WoW has really been a boon for my MMORPG well beign. I literalky don't get what people talks about the genre beign dead or stagnant. I know XIV story telling is amazing, i know next expansión will be great, i know even if its "lul time" i can find people to play, communities to join, etc. I know, after 15k hours of playing it im going to die with it. I know GW2 is fully well alive, metas are running, due to the nature of horizontal progression all maps from start to last patch are full of people busy doing their collections, grinds, achievements, whatever. After 15k hours at it i know its going to die with me. I miss some older titles tho, the times i played RO or L2 early-mid 2000 are full of nostalgia, but i also o don't have time for such grinds. I feel like the promises of new titles are just based on the idea of, like after 20 years, to imitate WoW, i even understand XIV took a lot from it, but since i don't really know what that is exactly, for me the genre is right where it has to be. If i want vertical progression, anime aesthetics, great narrative, deep lore i go XIV, if i want horizontal progression, western waterpaint aesthetics, fun bombastic action and storytelling, great systems i go GW2. Missing korean grinders, sadly nothing in the recent years has scratched that itch, but then again im no neet to be playing one of those, but BDO people seems happy, and jumping games is kinda the culture of those gamers anyway. It saddens me that WoW players cannot enjoy anything else and are doomed to live in unlife so to speak, but is a trend, basically all gamers "not enjoying" MMORPGs are linked to WoW, what a curse of a game.

[@reburox]

The main feeling I have is that nowadays there* is not really a 'Game community' like a ff14-community or WoW-community or whatever you only have a metric ton of small groups that barely interact which each other. I guess casual vs hardcore players or pvp vs pve are good examples. And regarding WoW players ... I guess 20+ years of torture can change a MMO-player you also have to enjoy it to an certain extend thats why the emotional World of a WoW-player is very confusing. Regarding grinding games I guess you have Poe but for myself I found Fun in a diablo 2 Mod called Project diablo 2.

[@gonzalosanchez1538]

@@reburox as a wow player my main problem is that, while every MMORPG I've tried feels good, none of them have wow's combat system, and I am sooo used to it I can't really give it up (or at least that's the excuse I've told myself hahah)

[@XAn0nymousX0]

The genre is just stagnant at a whole. This genre doesn't appeal to younger gamers, most of the big titles in this genre are over 10 years old (some 15+ years old), and the cost to make new titles is just too high and too time consuming for anyone to even want to undertake breathing new life into it. I think the idea of an mmorpg is just antiquated at this point. I think it's time someone actually tries to reinvent the wheel here instead of doing the same old tired copy and paste wow clone. Cut out leveling entirely - it's just a means to an end and not ever engaging. Make a hub world for players to use as a chat lobby and have a group system to queue into raids / dungeons / pvp. That's how people use main cities in mmo's already. You can make seasons similar to diablo where you earn a set that changes how your class plays during that season or has some kind of interesting seasonal gameplay change for your game mode. Build an "open world" out from the hub but keep it simple. Make it for your guild hall or player owned housing and have it be for the sake of gathering to craft cosmetic items or some kind of open world pvp or group events. Until a developer wants to modernize the genre with some major changes I think the only people playing these are going to be the players that have always played them until they inevitably quit.

[@robciccolini7460]

Because video games have had an escalating dopamine track and older games have a slower drip?

[@antmar6552]

You are 100% bang on. They used to be slower grind, fewer milestones but felt more rewarding as a result. These days I see it with my kid, if there’s no instant reward or gratification, he quits.

[@Quothnor]

I found this video because I just seem to have grew completely bored of WoW. I have taken archery as my main hobby almost an year ago, which made so I don't have time to raid and stop playing WoW. I have tried War Within, but WoW just feels so boring to me, now. Even with the new systems, the game just feels like the same old as always. You complete mindless quests which are the same formula for the last 20 years, get max level and do endgame content which boils down to the same as usual. I find delves boring, they are just another version of Torghast. Even the story seems the same formula as always. If I were to play it for the story, I might as well just read a book or watch whatever. I can't get into GW2. Mostly, the loading screen between zones just take me out of it, but it also feels boring in general. The open world that's so praised feels boring to me. The only game I've played recently that gives me the old feel on a MMO is OSRS. Even then, OSRS feels its age. I get the whole simplistic thing, but the ticks make it feel clunky. Even Tibia, which is older, feels much more responsive. The combat feels especially boring. I don't know, maybe I just got old and grew out of MMORPGs. What made MMORPGs fun for me in the old days was mostly going on adventures with real life friends.

[@Dramallamastrikesagain]

Everyone and their mother and their brother, and first cousin is playing Season of Discovery. There are so many people playing its easily got to be in the millions.

[@reburox]

I still have the feeling that a lot left since season 3. Not sure if season 3 was to early or something

[@bokuwakamerondesu]

just wanted to give a bit of good natured criticism. i had to stop watching the video because of the typing thing you did about a minute in. its was so unnecessarily slow, totally killed the pace of the video and brought me out of it. not trying to be mean or anything, just wanted to voice my thoughts as a viewer. keep up the work 👍

[@reburox]

yeah I should have gone with twitch lingo like 'Mmorpgs deadge?' or something^^

[@bokuwakamerondesu]

@@reburox haha maybe. but what you actually typed was fine. just for the sake of the pacing, making that part a bit more snappy and reading it a bit faster would've been fine

[@markgomersbach9265]

30 seconds of typing in a 11 minute video made you think "Hey I should let this creator know he should change for me"?

[@bokuwakamerondesu]

@@markgomersbach9265 even the best youtubers constantly change and grow. i dont think it would be healthy to have this kind of mindset about community feedback.

[@markgomersbach9265]

@bokuwakamerondesu I'm very healthy. Nice try. And stop being obtuse, it was a fine video.

[@duranmehmet93]

NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN

[@reburox]

Lets get to da chopper.