Mobula8 from HappyModel // More 2inch Props on 2S Micro

[@DroneOn]

Mr Burns. Your indoor prowess with 2" is incredible. 2s, 2" I find challenging in these types if spaces. Great flying

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you.Its certainly not ideal or easy. And there was plenty of crashing getting used to it :)

[@AsgardStudios]

Excellent review - that looks like a really fun quad. As far as throttle management goes, I really like using the throttle scaling feature in Betaflight. I have that and several different rate combinations on a switch. My main flyer is a 4S, 3 1/2 inch. When I want to fly around my yard aggressively like you do, I put it on a 50% throttle limit and gentler rates. And it’s really nice because it gives you a lot more granularity in that throttle. Anyway keep up the great work Nick, love your videos!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yep, scaling is an option, but new to the hobby folks would likely need help setting it.

[@brianfreland9065]

The power and the control of this little thing looks great from the vid! And for 120 bucks! Yeah, I'm picking one up for sure! I'll be buying all the 2s 2inch quads I can get my hands on haha

[@kremoo3662]

Nick can you make video how you safe change props on thinywhoops

[@DanielStaggsSix8]

They are definitely hard to pull off lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

pull and twist while holding the motor bell with the other hand. Or get a prop popper from tinywhoop.com

[@ChrisHarmon1]

I highly suggest prop popper if you can catch it in stock. I bent a 0702 shaft getting some stubborn props off and now test fit and if they are too tight, if so I drill out some material before completely pressing them down onto shaft.

[@BendApparatus]

​​@@ChrisHarmon1 I never had any luck with any proptool...not even the Gemfan locket. What I do is use some M2 7 or 8mm screws. I thread them in just enough that they're locked into the bell holes and use the edge of a stable flat surface (the flat of the edge the actual edge) and flip the quad upside down and push the prop from the bottom using the screws as leverage. It's hard to describe and doesn't work on whoopframes (which I hate and don't use)... But if you do use w-frames then take a look at the Gemfan locket...🤷🏻‍♂️😅 Which of course only works on T mount props...🤦🏻‍♂️

[@BendApparatus]

Whoops...made my comment specific reply...lol...check above comment...☝️

[@voosempre.9946]

I'm loving this brother drone, it's great at flying and can handle the wind, it's perfect and easy to fly, at the moment I'm practicing flights in acro mode and I'm loving it. I want to fly every day.

[@LynxGenisys]

Remember, you can run this 1s, and tune things down to fly inside.. it's litterally why i got one, for inside winter months.

[@slowentropy4531]

Very cool, the UZ85 was super popular so it should be a hit. I love 85mm whoops for flying around the neighbourhood as they are so non threatening and durable. Toothpicks are great but you can't really turtle them and they tend to pop ESCs. With the whoops you can just absolutely send them through gaps without stressing. Thanks for the review and awesome content as always mate. Cheers

[@moralboundaries1]

Agreed! I've had someone call the cops on me for flying my toothpick in the local park. Hopefully I can fly this one around without drawing the same attention.

[@slowentropy4531]

@@moralboundaries1 yeah with the props guarded it just "looks" less of a threat mate. The bonus of being able to send it through anything and bouncy off stuff, turtle is just fantastic. I do prefer the UZ85 frame though as I feel it would be more durable and only slightly more weight.

[@echobeefpv8530]

My Mobula 7 is a favorite, this looks pretty good as well, for my much more amatuer flying abilities. Good video as always, very balanced and real world.

[@daryoushborja5115]

Nick you should use your whoop gates outside at low light and do a video on that rip, would be a great addition. 👍 use some LEDs.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is a good idea. maybe one night I can turn on the pool lights and set out the led lights. Would need a nice calm night.

[@brianfreland9065]

I remember a year ago and wanting some 2s 2 inch whoops! Thankfully we have a few options now!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Took long enough right. I think it was nearly three years ago I posted the rocket race video 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LoVeAmBiEnT]

Amazing. You’re flying through. The house is literally amazing to me. I am a noob getting better every day. But no way can I fly through a house like this.

[@amin0_acid310]

Nice looking quad, you have it locked in when indoors. I'm getting use to a Mobula 7 2s indoors, an 8 might be a bit much. Outside, I can see this as more of that kind of whoop, HD, be it Walksnail or HDZero, not so sure about DJI. Nice to see new stuff coming out, opens up choice and competition between Brands. See if they do an HDZero soon. Thanks for the video, Cheers!

[@samsquachfpv945]

I recently purchased the Betafpv Meteor85 (2022). I love it and built my own in 3s with Runcam thumb on top

[@chinny0803]

Just recieved mine! 🥳 Strangely, the rubber mounts for the Fc are upside down. The canopy looks like it's on stilts 😂 Correction - I think that's how HM have "rectified" the usb port access issue.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Got it. Thank you

[@JoryFPV]

I wish they had gone with something closer to the UZ85, which was a rebrand of their products. The only problem with the UZ85 was the frame broke far too easily. This is basically a copy of the BetaFPV 85 which was a copy of MrShutterbug's formula. The frame MrShutterbug used was kind of heavy which pushed him into a higher KV. That BetaFPV 85mm frame is an absolute tank though, hopefully this is as good. I feel like there was a compromise there that they didn't try to reach with weight and durability.

[@ragndroneman]

Had some great fun with that uz85, wish id bought a couple at the price I got mine at. (About £65 I think!) The frame was a bit, brittle! Only drone I have ever broken motor posts on tho! And it did suffer from pretty bad prop wash.

[@Jacob0481]

Had a motor shaft come loose from the bell on my 3.5”. Ended up using green loctite and it held extremely well. Not a fan of how those motors are designed, i feel like its weak where the shaft meets the bell.

[@bigwavedave1562]

When you are inside in tight confines you really can't get much speed.... You proved otherwise with your mad skills! Nice flying! 😃

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I feel like I can go faster with a 75mm whoop inside. I do appreciate the compliment 💯

[@bugsy742]

Brilliant name dude, known a few Big wave Dave’s over the years here in Cornwall 🏄‍♂️ 🌊 😂🤝

[@yabbiepuncherz5152]

Looks like tons of fun! I converted one of my 2inch 2s toothpicks with 1002 motors to the same frame and X12 AIO flight controller but I've had terrible luck with happymodel electronics, specifically the X12 AIO. From a vtx that would change channels randomly every time I plugged in a battery, to blown esc's on two different boards. Till happymodel fixes their reliability issues I'm going to have to stay clear of them unfortunately.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

One thing that really helps in AIO reliability is disarming very quickly when we crash. Having the props trying to spin while on the ground and props obstructed from spinning can burn the esc really quick.

[@BigDan1190]

I ordered one of these instead of the bassline simply because i really don't like the look of the bassline frame. I also ordered an Apex 2 frame kit so I can swap between the whoop frame and the Apex 2 frame. Should be a sick little park ripper!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I didn't realize they made a 2inch version of the apex. Years ago I did buy and build up an apex3

[@moralboundaries1]

I was just about to buy a baseline and a betafpv 85 whoop frame! It's like happymodel read my mind 😅

[@FlyingBuzzard]

I do prefer some guards on many of my little guys, I tend to run them into many objects, so any protection is a plus+ in my thinking . I just got my Bassline, have not had a chance to maiden it yet, the Mobula 8 looks pretty good. I have had good fortune with Happymodel kwads I hear many complain about them, so far all of mine have been great Awesome video Nick

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think its like many things, if a company or the product become popular there are all sort of different experiences. Some are unfortunate, some are self harm and some are very happy. Poor experiences tend to get plastered all over social media while positive or happy experiences are more muted.

[@FlyingBuzzard]

@@NickBurnsFPV True

[@msky33]

Nick you continue to improve on your flying skills! Insane indoor flight 😮

[@anthonystownsend]

Those 2023 props are magic with 1103's on 2s. 2 inch is under rated my BNF manufacturers, that's why TKS was so successful.

[@modquad18]

Hmmm, I just got one and it was apparently assembled wrong - the usb port extended into the battery tray. I flipped the FC dampers to fix it as they’re asymmetrical.

[@pirateradioFPV]

To me the 2” 2S speaks the most. It kinda looks like a T-rex inside compared to the 1S stuff. More stable but also more hesitant to build speed 👀

[@joegirty6609]

Love the 2 inch 2s. went through many Betafpv 85. gonna get me one of these.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I really like the category as well. So small but yet very capable.

[@bhiggins316]

Have a few of the Happy Model small quads and looks like I need to add another. Thanks for another great review. My question is, it looks like you are using the HD Zero goggles for this analog feed. Have you done the latest firmware update on them? I have been waiting on this update, hearing the latest firmware is bad for analog use. Thanks.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I haven't done the lates update to the hdzero goggles.

[@Mupshot]

Kind of a 2s mobeatle. Would like to see the hd option come with both frames. I like my mob7, bit have replaced the frame about 4 times now. Seeing that crash cracked it kinda turns me off of it. Hopefully replacements are reasonably priced.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I suspect the frame will be around $10, but that is just a guess. The bassline HD is out, I reviewed the walksnail version

[@djs134]

Reminds me of the shutterbug85 from 4 years ago.1102 for sure would help

[@jarmilapaprokova9797]

This drone is amazing! Reccomend very much!

[@apachesmokewoundedsniper]

Great video as always Nick👍🏻👍🏻

[@TK-fp5fp]

Fly-crash-fly, fun to watch video as always, thanks Nick

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome little quad indeed, Nick! Fantastic flying and review!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you

[@JeanFrancoisPoulin1]

I can see my drone information in BETAFLIGHT CONFIGURATOR but not the DJI controller, but I know he is connected cause I can start recording from the record button. But since the drone wont start I presume I need to activate channel 4 on the BETAFLIGHT CONFIGURATOR. But the controller does not appear, am I missing something somewhere so that the controller appear? (I tries the goggles ON and OFF but no change) anybody know here?

[@MeHitDrum]

Nick, while trying to change frames, three of the TINY motor screws were stuck and the screw heads broke off. How can I remove the remainder of the screw from the motor mounts?

[@nazizmtoideologialewicowa2038]

Nice review. Can you compare the flight characteristics of this drone and Betaflight Meteor 75 Pro, which you also tested. Thanks.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is much more capable of aggressive outside flight and more difficult for indoor flights. The 75 pro is going to be fairly challenging for inside flight too. Its not 75mm motor to motor and can produce more thrust over a traditional 75mm whoop.

[@nazizmtoideologialewicowa2038]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks. I'm looking for a whoop to fly in the backyard and these two seem most interesting to me.

[@soursham]

2s makes a hella difference,I was surprised how quick & responsive it is. Mine came out of the box with a 45° camera tilt. I’m not used to it but I did enjoy that fast pace flying.🔥🤟

[@NickBurnsFPV]

45degrees is high, speed racer high. I think I am closer to 30-35

[@jedidag576]

Hi Nick can u pls share your pid tune & rates for mobula8🙏🏼

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Rates - kzbin.info/www/bejne/op3TeZaNht1rp5o the pids are manufacturer's provide on the quad and on their website.

[@krazed0451]

Thanks for the beautifully formatted videos, Nick, as a noob the clear & concise format is appreciated! 🙂 Any idea if a GNB 550Mah battery will fit in the holder?

[@krazed0451]

For anyone curious, the answer is yes, bit of a squeeze but they fit fine.

[@woodgrain816]

@@krazed0451 Thanks. I looked up the Redline battery from this video on Amazon and someone left a review saying "I cant fault the battery here, it works as it should, in fact I have more Tattu batteries than any other. I thought this would fit a mobula 8 stock battery cage but it doesnt. You can get it on there if you "toilet tank" it and use a strap but not my preference."

[@jimmy0tran]

Thanks for the review

[@michaellabuschagne8321]

Helooo gents.. JO you fly well.... something i always wondered ...first .. how do you know how quad is orientated especially if it further away from you and even doing yaw tricks...... secondly... will headless mode work in acro ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

These are fpv quqds. We were goggles to view the front/camera of the quad. These do not have headless mode. Headless mode is generally found on lower cost quads with less performance and no camera to view from.

[@bjalmoite]

Hello nick! Great flying and review as always. What would you choose between mobula 8 and bassline? And also planning to put a runcam thumb 4k v2

[@AGZFPV]

Great review Nick! Always like your reviews. I have a 2” 2s frame I designed and was curious if you could measure the outside diameter of the ducts when you get a second. I want to see if I can use the ducts or not on my current version of it. Really appreciate it!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Isn't the more important part the motor to motor dimensions? the outside will limit the prop to the 2inch category and to hold on the prop protection the motor mounting would need to line up.

[@AGZFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV not really as I have a frame already cut and fitment will depend on the outer dimensions of the duct. I will be cutting the frame to use the duct only. I can also design the frame around the duct diameter. I’m thinking it will be around 58mm in diameter.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@AGZFPV I get 145mm outer diagonal dimension.

[@antonlianpascua5099]

Nice Review! I'm planning to buy this whoop as my first FPV drone, the controller I will be using is the tx16s and the googles I'll be using is the eachine EV800D, I still cant decide what receiver to pick for both the drone and controller, what do you recommend for me as a total beginner? the 4 in 1 or ELRS? It seems that the ELRS is hard to start as a beginner, and what does "SPI" frsky mean? Can I bind it with the 4 in 1 of the tx16s? And If I pick the ELRS I cant find a decent review of how to bind it, I can only understand the binding of the 4 in 1 but now Im not sure since I dont know the meaning of "SPI" frsky, Thanks In advance

[@nikotttin]

On the older frame the holes were for an hd canopy…

[@sergio6762]

Nice review as always 🎉

[@kevinanderson1096]

Fly like you stole . As a new pilot, this helped alot on Mobula!

[@gonebdg]

Curious to see how the 1s version will be since I only use 1s on all my whoops. I did not see an options for the kv motor on BG product page tho ...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

At this time I am unsure if there is a 1s version planned. It would need to be lighter and higher kv

[@artempeshkov7489]

Help me to choose my 1st quad for outside only: meteor pro 75 vs Mobula 7 vs meteor 85 vs mobula 8. Mostly for dives and some flips. Analog only. Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

for outside only the larger the prop and more cells in the battery the longer the flight and/or more performance. I would go with the mobula 8

[@billmcdonald4335]

I got one, afterwards. The props fit the motors too tight, tho'. I mangled 2 props and broke a motor trying to remove the props so I could bench-run the thing. Never had that issue with other press-fit prop/motor combinations. I got it flying really nicely, just the same. I'm waiting on a new motor. Such is the life of a fumble-fingers, but still - them props are too tight. For anyone who has a Caddx Turtle V2, I can tell you that the O3 frame fits it perfectly. It'll add about 23 grams to the AUW, but the drivetrain can easily handle it. I'm using Gemfan D51-5s - they really give the DVR a great ride. Not recommended for ripping, but for cinematic stuff. The motors come back nice and cold if you take it easy. The 1103s can handle it.

[@MoeFPV]

Nick - sorta an unrelated question but what is the primary cause of prop wash on these whoops? I have a mob 7 HD zero that seems to have a lot more wash that my meteor 65 pro.. Weight? Thanks!

[@Hellawacked]

Probably weight I’m not super experienced or anything but from what I’ve noticed adding weight to these quads seems to make them washout more. You could try flashing bluejay might help?

[@medrone7097]

Is it me or does that camera look great? Worthy successor to the Beta85Pro 2 (except for the fragile frame).

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The hdzero google tends to help cams look “better” or more native

[@Outdoorandfpv]

Why don’t you fly 1s indoor? It’s 1 to 2s?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Because 2s delivers more thrust and is more fun and exciting.

[@Outdoorandfpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV ah okay I was wondering about that, great flight by the way. Love the channel

[@halokiller711]

was looking at the mobula7 actually, noticed the 8 and saw this video uploaded. now thinking I might get this

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is more capable outside and the mobula7 more friendly for inside. BTW

[@dematrixfpv5570]

Hola, ¿Qué rates usas?. Me cuesta ajustar mi mobula8 para que vuele bien, encuentro muy lentos mis rolls. Me gustaría saber tus rates para tener una idea de que hacer. Gracias desde Chile🇨🇱

[@shogunemperor]

Awesome review as always Nick! Killer indoor flying!! Just checking, did you fly it in its stock configuration? Or updated it to ELRS V3? I glued down the red TPU on mine.

[@ragndroneman]

Great to see both you guys flying this new whoop around after seeing the frame on aliexpress a couple weeks ago. Cant wait to get my hands on 1!

[@shogunemperor]

@@ragndroneman nice

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I did fly it stock. I have two radios one on elrs v2 and the other on elrs v3. I did use my rates, put the osd elements where I typically do and adjusted the battery warning voltage.

[@shogunemperor]

@@NickBurnsFPV aaah sweet man. Ive had some weird take off on arm, issues using the hex file. But seems like im the only one having that issue.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@shogunemperor When I have seen that on HM products I found if I loosen the canopy screws a touch it can help

[@Taboloncawonthemasters]

Nick!! What’s your favorite yard ripper that I could get in a hdzero version? This?? :)

[@dadefl33056]

🔥 Fantastic review & rip! Can you post this helpful info please: Goggle FW, Rapidfire FW and RF mode. A lot of owners, including myself are having issues with analog 😢

[@NickBurnsFPV]

posted this a few weeks ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3a9fKeNoMp4grM

[@billmcdonald4335]

Happymodel, eh? A good name in my house. Looks like my daily driver's gonna get a little buddy in the near future. I got a really robust 100mm carbon x-frame with some 1.9" hoops I can transplant the components onto when that plastic whoop frame eventually fails.

[@dingledisco]

Loved it ripping around the house 👍

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thanks 👍

[@diggsit69]

Nick, the 4Holes on the Mobula 8 Frame are most likely for Support and Balance, my. Q is how is This Quad compared to the Mobula 7 analog version?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The mobula7 is much much more indoor friendly. But the bassline/mobula8 is much much more capable outside.

[@MouwDown]

I'm really surprised that there isn't more 3" ToothPick style BnF's available with the added weight of digital vtx's. I think 2s would be ideal on 3" as well.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

True we haven't seen much in the 2s 3inch. We did see a lot of 1s 3inch for a year or so about 3-4 years ago.

[@weylanwang5788]

@nick burns would you happen to know if you tried to run the MOBULA 8 on 1s compared to 2s would it be too underpowered for indoors? I have and can run a Cetus x on 2s and that works wonderful. but looking to do some indoor flights camly and get the mobula 8 (it is already comming) but wondered how it will go on 1s and 2s? I know that they said that the mobula 8 can be run on 1s and 2s. but yes i agree the way you fly the 2s would be preferable for outside and more power.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I didn't try 1s. For me the kv is far to low to be much fun on 1s.

[@weylanwang5788]

@@NickBurnsFPV do you still have it? Would you be willing to try it now?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@weylanwang5788 I know from experience the 1s flight experience will be very mild and limited to flat slow flight.

[@weylanwang5788]

@nick burns, thanks for all the great videos. Thanks for answering my questions. I just got the Modular’s 8,. It works really well on 1s for INDOORS. It is definitely not up to your standards, of ripping around the house on 1s, but it is much tamer than a Cetus x on 2s. So for just hovering or floating around the house for 5min on 1s, as a newbie, it’s awesome. Much tamer. But it does work. The 2S on CetusX or the mobula 8 are very energetic and I would say the mobula 8 wins out on 2s but you can fly both Cetus x and mobula 8 the same way outside on 2s. And while not the same you can compare them together like a accord and a Corolla of similar make and be a flair comparison on 2s. The mobula 8 which is nice for relaxing on 1s is doable for 4-ish minutes. It isn’t EXCITING, but that is what I was going for. Again thanks for all your help and all the reviews. I do IT as well so relaxing flying without excitement and drama is often what I am looking for to relax….

[@JeanFrancoisPoulin1]

Hello sir... what battery really fit in that iny space I bought lumeniers 2S 550 and they don't fit at all... I saw video where the dude just cut the rack to fit them. What do you recommend? (That guy even put 2s 720 batteries to get 8 min flights)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Hello Jean, Of the batteries I have I cover how they fit in the video. Let me know if I should locate that section for you. Normally its a bit later in the video during the desk review.

[@JeanFrancoisPoulin1]

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah you kind of answered my question by proposing to cut the battery holder to fit my batteries... cause I bought lumenier 550 and no way its going to fit and then some velcro will do the rest

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@JeanFrancoisPoulin1 I don't have much in the lumineer batteries. I do know that tattu and china hobby line batteries tend to be bigger than most. I suspect most of the frames made by happymodel are designed around GNB batteries.

[@JeanFrancoisPoulin1]

@@NickBurnsFPV YESS thanks! I just bought 2!

[@JeanFrancoisPoulin1]

@@NickBurnsFPV You were right!! No need to cut the frame! :) Thanks

[@FrequentFlyerRC]

Same frame size as the Meteor 85 from Beta?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I didn't measure the frame and no longer have the meteor85 to compare it to. Sorry, but I suspect as they are both 2inchers they would be very similar sized.

[@onclefly8450]

Hi, thanks for this review Nick, so the same material as in Bassline, I find that the video quality of the DVR is really very good, what do you think ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The HDZero google DVR is the market leader for sure.

[@Mr.Donkeypoo]

Hey Nick, Do you have a homepage or sth where you share your pid tunes? My Mob8 flies very poorly. I get propwash so fast. It can't even handle a small split S or sharper corners without starting to wobble. I have other happymodel quads and all of those were great straight out of the box. I just can't believe that it flies like this. Kinda feels sluggish aswell and my rates feel definitely slower on it. Hovering and cruising is very smooth so i don't think that i got a damaged unit. I can't find a single guide or video on how to improve the tuning, it seems like nobody did it. I tried it myself and followed instruction for a general whoop tune, but i just caused fly aways and now I'm a afraid to try it again

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't have a website. when I review products I do not change the pid tune or filters. I believe in this video I discuss how the flight controller is sensitive to the tightness of the screws/nuts holding it. Try tinkering with that.... I do suggest re-applying the default pids and filters from the happymodel.cn website.

[@kremoo3662]

Love your content ❤

[@techFPV5964]

Nick do you ever sell your "old gear" and if so can you send a link if available?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No I don’t sell. I give it away in giveaway videos

[@DAKOLEK]

What is the exact size of the battery that fits perfectly?

[@balajiprasad9046]

Gnb450 mah 2s fits but a bit tight, I rotated the FC 90deg to avoid the battery bumping into Usb port.

[@ZGRD85]

Hi. Thanks for the video. Do you think it will lift a small camera like insta go 360 2 or runcam thumb pro?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

the go2 would be a touch on the heavy side to do much more than flat cruising sort of flights. We also need to find some sort of mount for it.

[@pensehomeschool]

should i buy the mobula 8 or the mobula 7 1s? i need a indoor and out door flyer... iv been flying for 2 years.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

the mobula 8 really isn't indoor friendly unless you have a large space, even in our house it can be challenging to frustrating to fly inside. I think the mobula7 is a better fit for both indoor and outdoor.

[@pensehomeschool]

@@NickBurnsFPV ok thanks so much!

[@parkour_dad]

Have you heard of issues with the frame stand off's shearing off in a crash? I had a crashed and sheared all 4 stand offs

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Standoffs? Are we talking about the four metal screws holding the flight controller and canopy?

[@parkour_dad]

@@NickBurnsFPV it's what the screws go into... The plastic bits on the frame sheared off

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@parkour_dad I have broken the frame but not the posts on this one. It is common for me to break the posts on 75mm frames. I tend to resolve it by using longer screws that get all the way down to the main portion of the post mount.

[@MrKen800]

FPV World: "2" FPV is not mean for indoor flying". Nick Burns: "Hold my beer".

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol.

[@electroddxful]

Great review Nick 👍🙏👍🙏

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you

[@FREEDOMFPV84]

You said some batterys fit better then others what batterys would you recommend for this quad

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I show the batteries that fit in the video. Recommendation would depend on availability to you, were you plan to fly and your flight goals. Bigger batteries are heavier and have longer flight time but make it more difficult to manage in tight spaces.

[@markmontreal7815]

Aaargh! Didn’t think I’d find a coupon when I ordered it this morning!!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

oh shoot. Did I not have it in the video description when the video launched?

[@markmontreal7815]

@@NickBurnsFPV Bought it like an hour before the video released:)

[@techFPV5964]

Hey Nick will the Mob8 SPI Frsky v2.1 fc bind with the Taranis QX7S 2017 radio? Thank you for the video!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Unfortunately I have to say maybe. Depends if the taranis has been firmware upgraded or not. A few years ago frsky rolled out a new firmware which broke compatibility with most of the spi or integrated frsky AIO receivers.

[@techFPV5964]

@@NickBurnsFPV The Taranis QX7S I have still has 2017 firmware so it's never been upgraded?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@techFPV5964 it should be compatible. Might have to bind in d8 mode.

[@techFPV5964]

I think it's high time I learn about ELRS and slap a module on my radio since having to wonder if my radio will bind or not is something I'm not willing to put any time into anymore. Besides that ELRS is easier to bind and gives better range. Thanks Nick! 👍✈️

[@January_Cold]

Your indoor flight was insanely good here 👍

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. Most flight were largly filled with crashes, more power than I typically fly inside.

[@Pozzix65]

all is amazing, but I dunno why in 2023, those FC's didn't have BB integrated. In my opinion this is an issue for who want to reach the best tune possible... I think that the Betafpv 85 frame is waaay durable than this...their frame r fantastic and they seem very resistant

[@sethpark777]

Hey Nick! I have been looking to get back into the quad game after a hiatus of ~7 years or so, but I have still been doing sims. I was wondering if you would recommend this quad, or a different one to someone who would be flying 95% outdoors (I'm in a condo). I don't look to do any crazy acro, just fun flying. I have a radiomaster tx12 and an older analog face-toaster for vrx. I would probably be looking to stay analog due to the price jump of digi. Curious to hear your thoughts! Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Hi Seth. Is prop protection a must? And is the space around your condo about the size of my yard or bigger?

[@sethpark777]

@@NickBurnsFPV I don't know that prop protection is a massive need. I have many green spaces around me that are as large as or larger than your yard. The immediate area around my condo is a bit tighter and more tree-y than your yard.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@sethpark777 I think we should look at those without prop protection the flight time will be long and less likely to get hung up in a tree. The standard bassline kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpnaZ3mMjrVrm9k , larva x (older might be cheaper) kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3jRppWNbq2Yo9U, flywoo baby nano 20 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnexcqCOZ82KoM0 the bluejay from Canadian rotorgeeks is also very good kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHzXe6OnoL1np9U for top mount battery option I would look at the older geprc phantom kzbin.info/www/bejne/povNoZpngJJ8hac

[@sethpark777]

@@NickBurnsFPV oh awesome! I will take a look at all those. I have considered the flywoo before. I really appreciate the feedback.

[@sethpark777]

@@NickBurnsFPV I think it's a contest between the bluejay and the baseline. I think I prefer the camera on the bassline. But you may have an opinion on that. Also when it comes to my TX, should I just go ahead and get an elrs module for the tx12?

[@edwinsantiago7639]

Don’t want to use goggles what budget radio can I use with this? I’m a beginner

[@NickBurnsFPV]

radiomaster tx12 is a good choice. Be sure to select elrs when purchasing.

[@danfpv1479]

I am wondering from which device you have so crisp analog dvr Nick? 😁

[@NickBurnsFPV]

this video details my video setup and environment kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3a9fKeNoMp4grM

[@danfpv1479]

@@NickBurnsFPV thank you. Now everything is clear for me 😉👍

[@tazgrif11]

What batteries are best for this drone, I have a few 2s batteries. But they don't fit the tray

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I cover the batteries I used and those I have that don't fit in the video

[@tazgrif11]

@@NickBurnsFPV I know, I was just wondering if there was any new batteries that were better since this was a year old

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@tazgrif11 none that I have tried

[@tazgrif11]

@@NickBurnsFPV okay, thank you

[@tazgrif11]

Do you suggest the 525s, or the 530?@@NickBurnsFPV

[@LosFPV]

Great Review as always! My tune seems set high, its in red zone, feels jumpy. Does anyone have a recent pid tune for Mobula 8?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Always best to check the manufacturers website for cli dumps which will contain PIDs. Its very rare I find a need to adjust BNF pid tune. If it feels jumpy try adding some expo on the betaflight configuration on the receiver page.

[@LosFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks! I started over, and feels much better.

[@frogsoda]

12:20 what is that usb port for ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Access to the flight controller settings and updates

[@frogsoda]

@@NickBurnsFPV So that's how you plug into BetaFPV? I'm a total nube at this. I've been flying "toy" drones for about 6 months. I have a few hours on an APEX VR70 fpv drone, but this is my first "real" drone. But I'm stuck on the batteries. let me just make sure i understand this right. A 450mAh 2c battery puts out twice the voltage as the 1c 450mAh. So this drone, The Mobula 8 can run on two different voltages. Correct? And there is nothing to do when switching voltages? Thanks for responding and great video. I'm gonna watch it again for the third time. I'd REALLY be lost without YT

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@frogsoda I believe you mean betaflight? Betaflight is the common software installed on flight controllers for fpv drones. No worries being new. I started with toy drones as well, syma x5c was my first. About the batteries and quads. Your correct on 2s vs 1s and the voltage (note the s). But not correct on the drone, while its possible for a quad to be able to use different voltage/cell (S) batteries generally speaking they are designed for one voltage of battery. The kv of the motor will often dictate the voltage of battery to us. If we have a 10000kv motor it would only reach 5000kv on a 1s battery vs reaching the full 10000kv on 2s. So while it might be able to use a 1s battery it likely won't fit the battery tray (in this case it surely won't) and it might not generate enough thrust to fly on 1s or it might not fly very well or for very long on 1s batteries. hope that helps.

[@TheWingnut58]

New sub here Nick, nice flying brother! Whats your opinion on this quad v the Meteor75 PRO as a first step into fpv for someone who will only fly outside?.....or would you recommend something entirely different? I know the Meteor is 1s and this is 2s, I'm more curious about the handling and the video quality between them. Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think going 1s is good as the batteries are cheaper and the chargers are cheap too. Viflywhoopstor 3 is what I would recommend. The 75pro isn’t going to fly as well outside as something without prop protection. But the prop protection will help the motors not take as much damage as well as the rest of the quad. For starting out that is a good choice or even the mobula 7. I think the mobula7 will offer better video clarity but some don’t care for that camera. Take a look at both. Also try to buy from a local fpv reseller. If it arrives faulty local resellers are better about getting that sort of issue.

[@TheWingnut58]

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the reply Nick, I've actually been looking at the Viflywhoopster 3 for 1s should I go that route. I've been in the rc hobby for 35+ years (mostly fixed wing LOS, never tried FPV outside of a DJI mini 2 se) and have chargers for most anything else. I'm leaning towards "flow" freestyle as my primary goal for fpv....just want to get the most "bang for my buck" without sacrificing performance (entry level of course) and video quality. I'm not tied to any brand, or even particular form factor....I'm open to most any sub 250g whoop, toothpick, etc....I just don't want to end up with something that I'll easily "outgrow" in a couple of months or with video so bad that I'll put it away and not fly. Edit to add: I'll likely be ordering from Race Day Quads, unless you have other recommendations.....I live in a very rural area with the closest resellers being over 2 hours away. Thanks again!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@TheWingnut58 Seems as though you would most likely want to go with HD fpv. Its much more expensive but has much better image quality and video signal range/clarity. In micros I think the walksnail video system is likely to be a good fit. Do you happen to already have fpv goggles?

[@TheWingnut58]

@@NickBurnsFPV I may eventually get to HD but I'm starting with Fatshark Scout box goggles because I got them barely used for a song.....and they work with my glasses. At this point I'm just kinda "toe dipping" to see if fpv is something I want to pursue. I have a Radiomaster Pocket arriving today and just minutes ago ordered a Mobula7, 6 batteries and a charger from RDQ.....I may have some questions for you on these little "wing spinners" so I don't hurt anyone...lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@TheWingnut58 ah gotcha. Mobula7 is good fun I think you will enjoy it. Keep in mind some do get dizzy at first, give it sometime to adjust.

[@Cuisinenomade1]

Do you use Elrs v2 on this or upgraded to v3? Thanks

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I flashed it to version 3

[@KobtsevRC]

Friend, you are a monster! You fly really cool on those little quads. Which one would you recommend right now?

[@KobtsevRC]

Analog

[@KobtsevRC]

TBS nano)))

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. Are you looking to fly outside only, or inside only, or both? And what size is the space you will primarily fly?

[@KobtsevRC]

@@NickBurnsFPV I want to fly more inside, but sometimes in the backyard. Can module 6 or what you think?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@KobtsevRC A mobula6 would be a good choice and is a better choice for smaller inside spaces, but still fairly capable of testing limits inside. 65mm is also more forgiving in throttle management.

[@krazed0451]

Hi Nick, which font are you running on your OSD for this video and are you in PAL?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah, I am not certain but it might be the digital font. No not in pal.

[@krazed0451]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks, I'll give the digital font a whirl! Is there a reason you opt for NTSC over PAL? Getting my first quad set up how I want it is more work than I imagined 😅

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@krazed0451 probably history of the old days when there in the US we used NTSC for everything

[@krazed0451]

@@NickBurnsFPV Fair enough! It's surprisingly difficult to get a definitive answer as to which is a better choice for FPV 😅 Thanks again for your help, much appreciated ❤️

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@krazed0451 If I recall correctly PAL has more scanlines and therefore should have a better image.

[@Discofpv]

Bassline or mobula 8 Durability?? Mmmm ?

[@pimenett]

It is the new Uruav UR85, cheap, fun to fly and durable.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

In a way yea, very very similar.

[@mickeysmedia]

Anybody on here come up with a good battery solution for the tattu batteries to fit?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

two things we can do, heat the battery tray and push in the tattu battery, this solution means other batteries won't fit. Or clip off the bottom part of the battery tray leaving the top section to route a velcro strap through to hold any battery.

[@jebrc]

Thats awesome while i love open prop there is nothing like flying a whoop i may have to save for one of these i also like the meteor 85. Im one step closer to being back in the air now to get a quad i got some box goggles there old eachine and a beat up qx7 but they work lol and i still have some of my micro lipos from when i had to sell everything so im getting there. Thanks for sharing Nick

[@DarwinHorvath]

Do you think they'll make a 3 or even 4 inch mobula?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

They might make something by those names but I certainly hope its more of an outdoor no prop protection quad

[@j.scarpa6201]

What’s your favorite cinewhoop between 2-3”?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think I would need to know if we are talking about cinewhoops that are made for slower flights with an external camera, or a more traditional whoop like this one where an external hd camera isn't the design intent.

[@j.scarpa6201]

@@NickBurnsFPV I should specify a little better. what’s in your opinion the most well rounded 2-3” cinewhoop that can hold an external hd camera? i bought a cineape after seeing your review and one of the motors are defective so i haven’t gotten any fly time on it yet. i’m starting to think i should go with another quad the cineape looks decent in terms of maneuverability and good durability but probably worse performing than like a cinelog 25

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@j.scarpa6201 Its stinks your cineape did arrive in working condition. Is DarwinFPV sending a new motor or working with you to get it running? In mh opinion the Cineape flies really well, and is one of the best overall in flight performance, efficiency, and construction. The cinelog performs on par for the most part but the durability will be far less in my estimation. I am working on an oddityrc cinewhoop, so far I have been impressed with this company, they are small and mainly sell/market in china, yes like all the others they are based in China. It may be a company to look at

[@j.scarpa6201]

@@NickBurnsFPV Their customer support is actually really great and while they would take care of it i decided to go with a different motor setup entirely as i am going to probably run a little heavier of a battery. your review of this quad is what mainly pushed me to get this one and i don’t regret it one bit. You’re by far my favorite quad youtuber and i look forward to your future content

[@Plzdontcrash]

Any thought in this vs the Meteor 85?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah, really hard to compare. I haven't flown the meteor85 in a long time, pretty sure it was in a give away a while back. I would expect them to be very very similar...they essentially are the same component mix, but the meteor85 is likely a touch heavier. I am sure the weight is in my original review video.

[@jimmycruz7172]

do you think this or the tinyhawk freestyle 2 is better tho

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its been a good long while since I have flown the tinyhawk freestyle 2. In my memory I think this flies better more aggressively.

[@iceboundzeus]

hi, can I use 720mah 100c or 850mah 60/120c ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

if they are 2s yes, but the battery weight will change the agility and responsiveness.

[@donmichaelcorbin4417]

How does this channel only have 57k subscribers?

[@kerrymillar4981]

How about a 1inch quad with 0401 motors

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am not aware of those motors existing in fpv

[@kerrymillar4981]

@NickBurnsFPV I thought you could build quads you just a kit set builder. You a wiz a flying indoors one of the fastest around a house of seen you should try to break some ground and get some mirco motors and build a 1 inch quad can't be that hard to get inch props

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@kerrymillar4981 yes, very dependent on manufacturers to produce parts.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@kerrymillar4981 we also have weight issues with a smaller and smaller prop, they product less and less thrust.

[@kerrymillar4981]

@@NickBurnsFPV we the mobeetle6 is 15grams we could get it down to 10-12 grams that would fly good ok indoors but you just have to talk to happy model they mite do it for you