Mobula8 from HappyModel // More 2inch Props on 2S Micro

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[@DroneOn]

Mr Burns. Your indoor prowess with 2" is incredible. 2s, 2" I find challenging in these types if spaces. Great flying

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you.Its certainly not ideal or easy. And there was plenty of crashing getting used to it :)

[@saggyballsfpv]

Wow that little things rips pretty good! I loved the indoor floor... insane control in such a small area. Thanks for another great review 🙂

[@brianfreland9065]

The power and the control of this little thing looks great from the vid! And for 120 bucks! Yeah, I'm picking one up for sure! I'll be buying all the 2s 2inch quads I can get my hands on haha

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome little quad indeed, Nick! Fantastic flying and review!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you

[@AsgardStudios]

Excellent review - that looks like a really fun quad. As far as throttle management goes, I really like using the throttle scaling feature in Betaflight. I have that and several different rate combinations on a switch. My main flyer is a 4S, 3 1/2 inch. When I want to fly around my yard aggressively like you do, I put it on a 50% throttle limit and gentler rates. And it’s really nice because it gives you a lot more granularity in that throttle. Anyway keep up the great work Nick, love your videos!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yep, scaling is an option, but new to the hobby folks would likely need help setting it.

[@TK-fp5fp]

Fly-crash-fly, fun to watch video as always, thanks Nick

[@apachesmokewoundedsniper]

Great video as always Nick👍🏻👍🏻

[@jarmilapaprokova9797]

This drone is amazing! Reccomend very much!

[@jimmy0tran]

Thanks for the review

[@voosempre.9946]

I'm loving this brother drone, it's great at flying and can handle the wind, it's perfect and easy to fly, at the moment I'm practicing flights in acro mode and I'm loving it. I want to fly every day.

[@sergio6762]

Nice review as always 🎉

[@samsquachfpv945]

I recently purchased the Betafpv Meteor85 (2022). I love it and built my own in 3s with Runcam thumb on top

[@slowentropy4531]

Very cool, the UZ85 was super popular so it should be a hit. I love 85mm whoops for flying around the neighbourhood as they are so non threatening and durable. Toothpicks are great but you can't really turtle them and they tend to pop ESCs. With the whoops you can just absolutely send them through gaps without stressing. Thanks for the review and awesome content as always mate. Cheers

[@moralboundaries1]

Agreed! I've had someone call the cops on me for flying my toothpick in the local park. Hopefully I can fly this one around without drawing the same attention.

[@slowentropy4531]

@@moralboundaries1 yeah with the props guarded it just "looks" less of a threat mate. The bonus of being able to send it through anything and bouncy off stuff, turtle is just fantastic. I do prefer the UZ85 frame though as I feel it would be more durable and only slightly more weight.

[@echobeefpv8530]

My Mobula 7 is a favorite, this looks pretty good as well, for my much more amatuer flying abilities. Good video as always, very balanced and real world.

[@amin0_acid310]

Nice looking quad, you have it locked in when indoors. I'm getting use to a Mobula 7 2s indoors, an 8 might be a bit much. Outside, I can see this as more of that kind of whoop, HD, be it Walksnail or HDZero, not so sure about DJI. Nice to see new stuff coming out, opens up choice and competition between Brands. See if they do an HDZero soon. Thanks for the video, Cheers!

[@brianfreland9065]

I remember a year ago and wanting some 2s 2 inch whoops! Thankfully we have a few options now!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Took long enough right. I think it was nearly three years ago I posted the rocket race video 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bigwavedave1562]

When you are inside in tight confines you really can't get much speed.... You proved otherwise with your mad skills! Nice flying! 😃

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I feel like I can go faster with a 75mm whoop inside. I do appreciate the compliment 💯

[@bugsy742]

Brilliant name dude, known a few Big wave Dave’s over the years here in Cornwall 🏄‍♂️ 🌊 😂🤝

[@kremoo3662]

Love your content ❤

[@kevinanderson1096]

Fly like you stole . As a new pilot, this helped alot on Mobula!

[@electroddxful]

Great review Nick 👍🙏👍🙏

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you

[@dickvancampen3318]

Yes been waiting for this great elrs dream whoop

[@SchroediFPV]

Looks good 👍

[@yabbiepuncherz5152]

Looks like tons of fun! I converted one of my 2inch 2s toothpicks with 1002 motors to the same frame and X12 AIO flight controller but I've had terrible luck with happymodel electronics, specifically the X12 AIO. From a vtx that would change channels randomly every time I plugged in a battery, to blown esc's on two different boards. Till happymodel fixes their reliability issues I'm going to have to stay clear of them unfortunately.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

One thing that really helps in AIO reliability is disarming very quickly when we crash. Having the props trying to spin while on the ground and props obstructed from spinning can burn the esc really quick.

[@joegirty6609]

Love the 2 inch 2s. went through many Betafpv 85. gonna get me one of these.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I really like the category as well. So small but yet very capable.

[@daryoushborja5115]

Nick you should use your whoop gates outside at low light and do a video on that rip, would be a great addition. 👍 use some LEDs.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is a good idea. maybe one night I can turn on the pool lights and set out the led lights. Would need a nice calm night.

[@pirateradioFPV]

To me the 2” 2S speaks the most. It kinda looks like a T-rex inside compared to the 1S stuff. More stable but also more hesitant to build speed 👀

[@anthonystownsend]

Those 2023 props are magic with 1103's on 2s. 2 inch is under rated my BNF manufacturers, that's why TKS was so successful.

[@FlyingBuzzard]

I do prefer some guards on many of my little guys, I tend to run them into many objects, so any protection is a plus+ in my thinking . I just got my Bassline, have not had a chance to maiden it yet, the Mobula 8 looks pretty good. I have had good fortune with Happymodel kwads I hear many complain about them, so far all of mine have been great Awesome video Nick

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think its like many things, if a company or the product become popular there are all sort of different experiences. Some are unfortunate, some are self harm and some are very happy. Poor experiences tend to get plastered all over social media while positive or happy experiences are more muted.

[@FlyingBuzzard]

@@NickBurnsFPV True

[@msky33]

Nick you continue to improve on your flying skills! Insane indoor flight 😮

[@markmontreal7815]

Aaargh! Didn’t think I’d find a coupon when I ordered it this morning!!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

oh shoot. Did I not have it in the video description when the video launched?

[@markmontreal7815]

@@NickBurnsFPV Bought it like an hour before the video released:)

[@chinny0803]

Just recieved mine! 🥳 Strangely, the rubber mounts for the Fc are upside down. The canopy looks like it's on stilts 😂 Correction - I think that's how HM have "rectified" the usb port access issue.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Got it. Thank you

[@djs134]

Reminds me of the shutterbug85 from 4 years ago.1102 for sure would help

[@MrKen800]

FPV World: "2" FPV is not mean for indoor flying". Nick Burns: "Hold my beer".

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol.

[@soursham]

2s makes a hella difference,I was surprised how quick & responsive it is. Mine came out of the box with a 45° camera tilt. I’m not used to it but I did enjoy that fast pace flying.🔥🤟

[@NickBurnsFPV]

45degrees is high, speed racer high. I think I am closer to 30-35

[@bjalmoite]

Hello nick! Great flying and review as always. What would you choose between mobula 8 and bassline? And also planning to put a runcam thumb 4k v2

[@kremoo3662]

Nick can you make video how you safe change props on thinywhoops

[@DanielStaggsSix8]

They are definitely hard to pull off lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

pull and twist while holding the motor bell with the other hand. Or get a prop popper from tinywhoop.com

[@ChrisHarmon1]

I highly suggest prop popper if you can catch it in stock. I bent a 0702 shaft getting some stubborn props off and now test fit and if they are too tight, if so I drill out some material before completely pressing them down onto shaft.

[@BendApparatus]

​​@@ChrisHarmon1 I never had any luck with any proptool...not even the Gemfan locket. What I do is use some M2 7 or 8mm screws. I thread them in just enough that they're locked into the bell holes and use the edge of a stable flat surface (the flat of the edge the actual edge) and flip the quad upside down and push the prop from the bottom using the screws as leverage. It's hard to describe and doesn't work on whoopframes (which I hate and don't use)... But if you do use w-frames then take a look at the Gemfan locket...🤷🏻‍♂️😅 Which of course only works on T mount props...🤦🏻‍♂️

[@BendApparatus]

Whoops...made my comment specific reply...lol...check above comment...☝️

[@JoryFPV]

I wish they had gone with something closer to the UZ85, which was a rebrand of their products. The only problem with the UZ85 was the frame broke far too easily. This is basically a copy of the BetaFPV 85 which was a copy of MrShutterbug's formula. The frame MrShutterbug used was kind of heavy which pushed him into a higher KV. That BetaFPV 85mm frame is an absolute tank though, hopefully this is as good. I feel like there was a compromise there that they didn't try to reach with weight and durability.

[@ragndroneman]

Had some great fun with that uz85, wish id bought a couple at the price I got mine at. (About £65 I think!) The frame was a bit, brittle! Only drone I have ever broken motor posts on tho! And it did suffer from pretty bad prop wash.

[@January_Cold]

Your indoor flight was insanely good here 👍

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. Most flight were largly filled with crashes, more power than I typically fly inside.

[@bhiggins316]

Have a few of the Happy Model small quads and looks like I need to add another. Thanks for another great review. My question is, it looks like you are using the HD Zero goggles for this analog feed. Have you done the latest firmware update on them? I have been waiting on this update, hearing the latest firmware is bad for analog use. Thanks.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I haven't done the lates update to the hdzero goggles.

[@MeHitDrum]

Nick, while trying to change frames, three of the TINY motor screws were stuck and the screw heads broke off. How can I remove the remainder of the screw from the motor mounts?

[@modquad18]

Hmmm, I just got one and it was apparently assembled wrong - the usb port extended into the battery tray. I flipped the FC dampers to fix it as they’re asymmetrical.

[@antonlianpascua5099]

Nice Review! I'm planning to buy this whoop as my first FPV drone, the controller I will be using is the tx16s and the googles I'll be using is the eachine EV800D, I still cant decide what receiver to pick for both the drone and controller, what do you recommend for me as a total beginner? the 4 in 1 or ELRS? It seems that the ELRS is hard to start as a beginner, and what does "SPI" frsky mean? Can I bind it with the 4 in 1 of the tx16s? And If I pick the ELRS I cant find a decent review of how to bind it, I can only understand the binding of the 4 in 1 but now Im not sure since I dont know the meaning of "SPI" frsky, Thanks In advance

[@halokiller711]

was looking at the mobula7 actually, noticed the 8 and saw this video uploaded. now thinking I might get this

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is more capable outside and the mobula7 more friendly for inside. BTW

[@ChristKrew-Rev1.8]

Love the review. Was thinking of picking this up and putting it on my 2" toothpick frame I have sitting around and make it a 2" backyard racer!!!! Keeping the whoop frame for cold days. As always sir... thank you for another great review!

[@BigDan1190]

I ordered one of these instead of the bassline simply because i really don't like the look of the bassline frame. I also ordered an Apex 2 frame kit so I can swap between the whoop frame and the Apex 2 frame. Should be a sick little park ripper!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I didn't realize they made a 2inch version of the apex. Years ago I did buy and build up an apex3

[@billmcdonald4335]

Happymodel, eh? A good name in my house. Looks like my daily driver's gonna get a little buddy in the near future. I got a really robust 100mm carbon x-frame with some 1.9" hoops I can transplant the components onto when that plastic whoop frame eventually fails.

[@DonJohnsonFPV]

OOOOHHHH the infamous Happymodel EX110x.... How long before the shaft get loose and spin in the bell making them totaly unusable ??? NEVER AGAIN !!!

[@moralboundaries1]

I was just about to buy a baseline and a betafpv 85 whoop frame! It's like happymodel read my mind 😅

[@Taboloncawonthemasters]

Nick!! What’s your favorite yard ripper that I could get in a hdzero version? This?? :)

[@lagz89]

sick

[@MoeFPV]

Nick - sorta an unrelated question but what is the primary cause of prop wash on these whoops? I have a mob 7 HD zero that seems to have a lot more wash that my meteor 65 pro.. Weight? Thanks!

[@hellawacked]

Probably weight I’m not super experienced or anything but from what I’ve noticed adding weight to these quads seems to make them washout more. You could try flashing bluejay might help?

[@donmichaelcorbin4417]

How does this channel only have 57k subscribers?

[@andrehamilton9332]

Hey dude hope your having a great day. I was just wondering if you have any tips to straighten bent motor shafts.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have seen it done with pliers or other tools, but not done it successfully myself. Each time I have tried I have snapped the shaft.

[@AGZFPV]

Great review Nick! Always like your reviews. I have a 2” 2s frame I designed and was curious if you could measure the outside diameter of the ducts when you get a second. I want to see if I can use the ducts or not on my current version of it. Really appreciate it!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Isn't the more important part the motor to motor dimensions? the outside will limit the prop to the 2inch category and to hold on the prop protection the motor mounting would need to line up.

[@AGZFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV not really as I have a frame already cut and fitment will depend on the outer dimensions of the duct. I will be cutting the frame to use the duct only. I can also design the frame around the duct diameter. I’m thinking it will be around 58mm in diameter.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@AGZFPV I get 145mm outer diagonal dimension.

[@DAKOLEK]

What is the exact size of the battery that fits perfectly?

[@gonebdg]

Curious to see how the 1s version will be since I only use 1s on all my whoops. I did not see an options for the kv motor on BG product page tho ...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

At this time I am unsure if there is a 1s version planned. It would need to be lighter and higher kv

[@diggsit69]

Nick, the 4Holes on the Mobula 8 Frame are most likely for Support and Balance, my. Q is how is This Quad compared to the Mobula 7 analog version?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The mobula7 is much much more indoor friendly. But the bassline/mobula8 is much much more capable outside.

[@shogunemperor]

Awesome review as always Nick! Killer indoor flying!! Just checking, did you fly it in its stock configuration? Or updated it to ELRS V3? I glued down the red TPU on mine.

[@ragndroneman]

Great to see both you guys flying this new whoop around after seeing the frame on aliexpress a couple weeks ago. Cant wait to get my hands on 1!

[@shogunemperor]

@@ragndroneman nice

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I did fly it stock. I have two radios one on elrs v2 and the other on elrs v3. I did use my rates, put the osd elements where I typically do and adjusted the battery warning voltage.

[@shogunemperor]

@@NickBurnsFPV aaah sweet man. Ive had some weird take off on arm, issues using the hex file. But seems like im the only one having that issue.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@shogunemperor When I have seen that on HM products I found if I loosen the canopy screws a touch it can help

[@Mupshot]

Kind of a 2s mobeatle. Would like to see the hd option come with both frames. I like my mob7, bit have replaced the frame about 4 times now. Seeing that crash cracked it kinda turns me off of it. Hopefully replacements are reasonably priced.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I suspect the frame will be around $10, but that is just a guess. The bassline HD is out, I reviewed the walksnail version

[@artempeshkov7489]

Help me to choose my 1st quad for outside only: meteor pro 75 vs Mobula 7 vs meteor 85 vs mobula 8. Mostly for dives and some flips. Analog only. Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

for outside only the larger the prop and more cells in the battery the longer the flight and/or more performance. I would go with the mobula 8

[@ZGRD85]

Hi. Thanks for the video. Do you think it will lift a small camera like insta go 360 2 or runcam thumb pro?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

the go2 would be a touch on the heavy side to do much more than flat cruising sort of flights. We also need to find some sort of mount for it.

[@MouwDown]

I'm really surprised that there isn't more 3" ToothPick style BnF's available with the added weight of digital vtx's. I think 2s would be ideal on 3" as well.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

True we haven't seen much in the 2s 3inch. We did see a lot of 1s 3inch for a year or so about 3-4 years ago.

[@jebrc]

Thats awesome while i love open prop there is nothing like flying a whoop i may have to save for one of these i also like the meteor 85. Im one step closer to being back in the air now to get a quad i got some box goggles there old eachine and a beat up qx7 but they work lol and i still have some of my micro lipos from when i had to sell everything so im getting there. Thanks for sharing Nick

[@nikotttin]

On the older frame the holes were for an hd canopy…

[@FrequentFlyerRC]

Same frame size as the Meteor 85 from Beta?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I didn't measure the frame and no longer have the meteor85 to compare it to. Sorry, but I suspect as they are both 2inchers they would be very similar sized.

[@billmcdonald4335]

I got one, afterwards. The props fit the motors too tight, tho'. I mangled 2 props and broke a motor trying to remove the props so I could bench-run the thing. Never had that issue with other press-fit prop/motor combinations. I got it flying really nicely, just the same. I'm waiting on a new motor. Such is the life of a fumble-fingers, but still - them props are too tight. For anyone who has a Caddx Turtle V2, I can tell you that the O3 frame fits it perfectly. It'll add about 23 grams to the AUW, but the drivetrain can easily handle it. I'm using Gemfan D51-5s - they really give the DVR a great ride. Not recommended for ripping, but for cinematic stuff. The motors come back nice and cold if you take it easy. The 1103s can handle it.

[@Mr.Donkeypoo]

Hey Nick, Do you have a homepage or sth where you share your pid tunes? My Mob8 flies very poorly. I get propwash so fast. It can't even handle a small split S or sharper corners without starting to wobble. I have other happymodel quads and all of those were great straight out of the box. I just can't believe that it flies like this. Kinda feels sluggish aswell and my rates feel definitely slower on it. Hovering and cruising is very smooth so i don't think that i got a damaged unit. I can't find a single guide or video on how to improve the tuning, it seems like nobody did it. I tried it myself and followed instruction for a general whoop tune, but i just caused fly aways and now I'm a afraid to try it again

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't have a website. when I review products I do not change the pid tune or filters. I believe in this video I discuss how the flight controller is sensitive to the tightness of the screws/nuts holding it. Try tinkering with that.... I do suggest re-applying the default pids and filters from the happymodel.cn website.

[@dadefl33056]

🔥 Fantastic review & rip! Can you post this helpful info please: Goggle FW, Rapidfire FW and RF mode. A lot of owners, including myself are having issues with analog 😢

[@NickBurnsFPV]

posted this a few weeks ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3a9fKeNoMp4grM

[@michaellabuschagne8321]

Helooo gents.. JO you fly well.... something i always wondered ...first .. how do you know how quad is orientated especially if it further away from you and even doing yaw tricks...... secondly... will headless mode work in acro ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

These are fpv quqds. We were goggles to view the front/camera of the quad. These do not have headless mode. Headless mode is generally found on lower cost quads with less performance and no camera to view from.

[@madfpv3154]

What antennas you run on your analog module? Your video is great!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

My goggle setup is covered here kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3a9fKeNoMp4grM

[@medrone7097]

Is it me or does that camera look great? Worthy successor to the Beta85Pro 2 (except for the fragile frame).

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The hdzero google tends to help cams look “better” or more native

[@nazizmtoideologialewicowa2038]

Nice review. Can you compare the flight characteristics of this drone and Betaflight Meteor 75 Pro, which you also tested. Thanks.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is much more capable of aggressive outside flight and more difficult for indoor flights. The 75 pro is going to be fairly challenging for inside flight too. Its not 75mm motor to motor and can produce more thrust over a traditional 75mm whoop.

[@nazizmtoideologialewicowa2038]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks. I'm looking for a whoop to fly in the backyard and these two seem most interesting to me.

[@pimenett]

It is the new Uruav UR85, cheap, fun to fly and durable.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

In a way yea, very very similar.

[@edwinsantiago7639]

Don’t want to use goggles what budget radio can I use with this? I’m a beginner

[@NickBurnsFPV]

radiomaster tx12 is a good choice. Be sure to select elrs when purchasing.

[@zappex92]

65mm drones are the best

[@pensehomeschool]

should i buy the mobula 8 or the mobula 7 1s? i need a indoor and out door flyer... iv been flying for 2 years.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

the mobula 8 really isn't indoor friendly unless you have a large space, even in our house it can be challenging to frustrating to fly inside. I think the mobula7 is a better fit for both indoor and outdoor.

[@pensehomeschool]

@@NickBurnsFPV ok thanks so much!

[@Pozzix65]

all is amazing, but I dunno why in 2023, those FC's didn't have BB integrated. In my opinion this is an issue for who want to reach the best tune possible... I think that the Betafpv 85 frame is waaay durable than this...their frame r fantastic and they seem very resistant

[@weylanwang5788]

@nick burns would you happen to know if you tried to run the MOBULA 8 on 1s compared to 2s would it be too underpowered for indoors? I have and can run a Cetus x on 2s and that works wonderful. but looking to do some indoor flights camly and get the mobula 8 (it is already comming) but wondered how it will go on 1s and 2s? I know that they said that the mobula 8 can be run on 1s and 2s. but yes i agree the way you fly the 2s would be preferable for outside and more power.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I didn't try 1s. For me the kv is far to low to be much fun on 1s.

[@weylanwang5788]

@@NickBurnsFPV do you still have it? Would you be willing to try it now?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@weylanwang5788 I know from experience the 1s flight experience will be very mild and limited to flat slow flight.

[@weylanwang5788]

@nick burns, thanks for all the great videos. Thanks for answering my questions. I just got the Modular’s 8,. It works really well on 1s for INDOORS. It is definitely not up to your standards, of ripping around the house on 1s, but it is much tamer than a Cetus x on 2s. So for just hovering or floating around the house for 5min on 1s, as a newbie, it’s awesome. Much tamer. But it does work. The 2S on CetusX or the mobula 8 are very energetic and I would say the mobula 8 wins out on 2s but you can fly both Cetus x and mobula 8 the same way outside on 2s. And while not the same you can compare them together like a accord and a Corolla of similar make and be a flair comparison on 2s. The mobula 8 which is nice for relaxing on 1s is doable for 4-ish minutes. It isn’t EXCITING, but that is what I was going for. Again thanks for all your help and all the reviews. I do IT as well so relaxing flying without excitement and drama is often what I am looking for to relax….

[@parkour_dad]

Have you heard of issues with the frame stand off's shearing off in a crash? I had a crashed and sheared all 4 stand offs

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Standoffs? Are we talking about the four metal screws holding the flight controller and canopy?

[@parkour_dad]

@@NickBurnsFPV it's what the screws go into... The plastic bits on the frame sheared off

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@parkour_dad I have broken the frame but not the posts on this one. It is common for me to break the posts on 75mm frames. I tend to resolve it by using longer screws that get all the way down to the main portion of the post mount.

[@Cuisinenomade1]

Do you use Elrs v2 on this or upgraded to v3? Thanks

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I flashed it to version 3

[@mickeysmedia]

Anybody on here come up with a good battery solution for the tattu batteries to fit?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

two things we can do, heat the battery tray and push in the tattu battery, this solution means other batteries won't fit. Or clip off the bottom part of the battery tray leaving the top section to route a velcro strap through to hold any battery.

[@verdi6092]

This is interesting with a digital system...

[@DarwinHorvath]

Do you think they'll make a 3 or even 4 inch mobula?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

They might make something by those names but I certainly hope its more of an outdoor no prop protection quad

[@dickvancampen3318]

Ps great indoor flight i can't do that to big....

[@LosFPV]

Great Review as always! My tune seems set high, its in red zone, feels jumpy. Does anyone have a recent pid tune for Mobula 8?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Always best to check the manufacturers website for cli dumps which will contain PIDs. Its very rare I find a need to adjust BNF pid tune. If it feels jumpy try adding some expo on the betaflight configuration on the receiver page.

[@LosFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks! I started over, and feels much better.

[@kaskalo2]

After my moblite7 and 8 mins, i can't think of switching to anything that flies 3 mins 😔 P. S. Your swimming pool turned out pretty nice 😊

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Flight time is a huge variable, I get many reports of higher flight times than my videos show. I got 4:41 on the moblite7 indoor.

[@kaskalo2]

@@NickBurnsFPV well that is true. Would you care to do a simple flight time test, where you would drive it outside as you usually do, with an exception of removing only those punch outs over the house?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@kaskalo2 time and weather depending potentially.

[@sethpark777]

Hey Nick! I have been looking to get back into the quad game after a hiatus of ~7 years or so, but I have still been doing sims. I was wondering if you would recommend this quad, or a different one to someone who would be flying 95% outdoors (I'm in a condo). I don't look to do any crazy acro, just fun flying. I have a radiomaster tx12 and an older analog face-toaster for vrx. I would probably be looking to stay analog due to the price jump of digi. Curious to hear your thoughts! Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Hi Seth. Is prop protection a must? And is the space around your condo about the size of my yard or bigger?

[@sethpark777]

@@NickBurnsFPV I don't know that prop protection is a massive need. I have many green spaces around me that are as large as or larger than your yard. The immediate area around my condo is a bit tighter and more tree-y than your yard.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@sethpark777 I think we should look at those without prop protection the flight time will be long and less likely to get hung up in a tree. The standard bassline kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpnaZ3mMjrVrm9k , larva x (older might be cheaper) kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3jRppWNbq2Yo9U, flywoo baby nano 20 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnexcqCOZ82KoM0 the bluejay from Canadian rotorgeeks is also very good kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHzXe6OnoL1np9U for top mount battery option I would look at the older geprc phantom kzbin.info/www/bejne/povNoZpngJJ8hac

[@sethpark777]

@@NickBurnsFPV oh awesome! I will take a look at all those. I have considered the flywoo before. I really appreciate the feedback.

[@sethpark777]

@@NickBurnsFPV I think it's a contest between the bluejay and the baseline. I think I prefer the camera on the bassline. But you may have an opinion on that. Also when it comes to my TX, should I just go ahead and get an elrs module for the tx12?

[@KobtsevRC]

Friend, you are a monster! You fly really cool on those little quads. Which one would you recommend right now?

[@KobtsevRC]

Analog

[@KobtsevRC]

TBS nano)))

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. Are you looking to fly outside only, or inside only, or both? And what size is the space you will primarily fly?

[@KobtsevRC]

@@NickBurnsFPV I want to fly more inside, but sometimes in the backyard. Can module 6 or what you think?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@KobtsevRC A mobula6 would be a good choice and is a better choice for smaller inside spaces, but still fairly capable of testing limits inside. 65mm is also more forgiving in throttle management.

[@Plzdontcrash]

Any thought in this vs the Meteor 85?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah, really hard to compare. I haven't flown the meteor85 in a long time, pretty sure it was in a give away a while back. I would expect them to be very very similar...they essentially are the same component mix, but the meteor85 is likely a touch heavier. I am sure the weight is in my original review video.

[@mercurymoyes4018]

Mobula 8 yewww lipo are life and I'm on lithium based pills hard to swallow not to be chewed unless wanting to look puff the dragon like! Whoops is where its at! Thankyou Mr nick burns love your tone manor and vibe please don't change! 5" maybe like driving a 4x4 SUV....

[@getitdone361]

Do u like this more then the mobula 7 1s

[@NickBurnsFPV]

for outside only flight yes.

[@user-vi1fw4ep3j]

So im wanna to get into fpv and stuff, and watching a lot of youtubers of this kind. And i have a question: did you have The Mansion because youre a fpv youtuber, or you are fpv youtuber because you have The Mansion? Because, you know, every popular fpv youtuber have a big property, just wondering.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol KZbin isn’t able to pay my bills. My wife and I both work. Bought the house 15 years ago. Started this channel 8 years ago. Real estate is cheap here in central US

[@jimmycruz7172]

do you think this or the tinyhawk freestyle 2 is better tho

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its been a good long while since I have flown the tinyhawk freestyle 2. In my memory I think this flies better more aggressively.

[@TheWingnut58]

New sub here Nick, nice flying brother! Whats your opinion on this quad v the Meteor75 PRO as a first step into fpv for someone who will only fly outside?.....or would you recommend something entirely different? I know the Meteor is 1s and this is 2s, I'm more curious about the handling and the video quality between them. Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think going 1s is good as the batteries are cheaper and the chargers are cheap too. Viflywhoopstor 3 is what I would recommend. The 75pro isn’t going to fly as well outside as something without prop protection. But the prop protection will help the motors not take as much damage as well as the rest of the quad. For starting out that is a good choice or even the mobula 7. I think the mobula7 will offer better video clarity but some don’t care for that camera. Take a look at both. Also try to buy from a local fpv reseller. If it arrives faulty local resellers are better about getting that sort of issue.

[@TheWingnut58]

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the reply Nick, I've actually been looking at the Viflywhoopster 3 for 1s should I go that route. I've been in the rc hobby for 35+ years (mostly fixed wing LOS, never tried FPV outside of a DJI mini 2 se) and have chargers for most anything else. I'm leaning towards "flow" freestyle as my primary goal for fpv....just want to get the most "bang for my buck" without sacrificing performance (entry level of course) and video quality. I'm not tied to any brand, or even particular form factor....I'm open to most any sub 250g whoop, toothpick, etc....I just don't want to end up with something that I'll easily "outgrow" in a couple of months or with video so bad that I'll put it away and not fly. Edit to add: I'll likely be ordering from Race Day Quads, unless you have other recommendations.....I live in a very rural area with the closest resellers being over 2 hours away. Thanks again!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@TheWingnut58 Seems as though you would most likely want to go with HD fpv. Its much more expensive but has much better image quality and video signal range/clarity. In micros I think the walksnail video system is likely to be a good fit. Do you happen to already have fpv goggles?

[@TheWingnut58]

@@NickBurnsFPV I may eventually get to HD but I'm starting with Fatshark Scout box goggles because I got them barely used for a song.....and they work with my glasses. At this point I'm just kinda "toe dipping" to see if fpv is something I want to pursue. I have a Radiomaster Pocket arriving today and just minutes ago ordered a Mobula7, 6 batteries and a charger from RDQ.....I may have some questions for you on these little "wing spinners" so I don't hurt anyone...lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@TheWingnut58 ah gotcha. Mobula7 is good fun I think you will enjoy it. Keep in mind some do get dizzy at first, give it sometime to adjust.

[@balajiprasad9046]

Nice..UART based ELRS receiver would have been better. I will buy if it is too much power then can downgrade to a 75mm frame.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I wouldn't run 40mm props on 1103 motors. To much weight and not enough thrust generated at 11000kv

[@balajiprasad9046]

​@@NickBurnsFPVI finally bought Mobula 8. I get random failsafes even indoors close to 5ft when flying with 150hz packet rate and dynamic power on. It regains connection once I disarm and rearm...have you faced an issue like this? This is very disappointing after moving to ELRS😢

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@balajiprasad9046I don't use dynamic power. I suggest turning that off. Also what is the battery voltage when it failsafes.

[@balajiprasad9046]

@@NickBurnsFPV 6.50V I am also flying it with 2 1s 380 purple gnb batteries. Update: I lowered the packet rate to 50 hz and switched off the dynamic and set the power level at 100mw...no failsafes with the same batteries at the same flying location. Will you update you more with this setting at different locations.

[@balajiprasad9046]

​@@NickBurnsFPV I contacted the happy model as per their advice I switched off "LED STRIPE" in the config page and my failsafes have disappeared.

[@LuxMorgano]

Will it be done in Walksnail?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

likely

[@Discofpv]

Bassline or mobula 8 Durability?? Mmmm ?

[@pacospete4299]

Mr. Burns , ( or anyone ) if a new neighbor seen and liked your hobby and ask you for your recommendation LIST of Gear to get started in this hobby ..... Drone , controller and goggles , what would it be ??? cost is not a factor .

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would go hdzero goggles, radiomaster zorro radio and factal 75 drone

[@pacospete4299]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thank You for your timely reply !!!

[@bugsy742]

Can you gyroflow the footage mate?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is analog I would be surprised if anyone wanted to. Really anything can be run through gyro flow, output will be better with gyro data.

[@bugsy742]

@@NickBurnsFPV oh yeah good point mate 😅 I’ve been watching too many Mob7 HD analog vids! 🙄😂🤝

[@alperenozgur]

orqa and rapidfire or hdzero and rapidfire? do you use mode 1 or 2? seems too clear for analog lol edit: ah.. saw the fan logo at top-left..

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yep hdzero is the market leader right now and maybe for years to come.

[@Gameknighth]

do you fly your whoops in angle or acro mode ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

acro.

[@Gameknighth]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks any tips im about to get my tinywhoop.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Gameknighth fly it outside first