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@johnreese4717
@johnreese4717 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@roberthanson7286
@roberthanson7286 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm this video is the truth. I was banging my head against the wall trying to figure out how to do this with every diagram and tutorial online giving conflicting information. Thank you so much good sir for providing such a useful, non-time wasting video!!!!
@JamieLovick
@JamieLovick 4 жыл бұрын
With the splitter setup, it's important to have the MoCA filter in place, as there is a risk that your MoCA signal will go out onto the carrier network. There should always be a a filter between the splitter and the feed-in.
@matthewhorwat7540
@matthewhorwat7540 4 жыл бұрын
Very very important! He is opening his secure network to the neighbours who may also have a moca adaptor, and may cause issues with Comcast's network as they start to use moca frequencies their network (moca uses frequencies above 860mhz and below 1.2ghz). Hopefully that filter in the network box is a moca filter which Comcast tech installed!
@mark_m1966
@mark_m1966 4 жыл бұрын
He’s using a MoCA filter.
@matthewhorwat7540
@matthewhorwat7540 4 жыл бұрын
@@mark_m1966 he didn't say moca filter, he only said filter. The moca filter needs to be installed at the house demarcation point in the box outside, before the cable goes back to the plant.
@jasonax3184
@jasonax3184 4 жыл бұрын
@@mark_m1966 Where do you get this filter?
@MeCJay12
@MeCJay12 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonax3184 They have them cheap on Amazon
@rhalama1
@rhalama1 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best youtube video's I ever watched. Brought the MoCA explanation down to my level of understanding. I was interested in what MoCA was and this was the best and simplest explanation. Thanks to Crosstalk solutions.
@JustinDoesTriathlon
@JustinDoesTriathlon 4 жыл бұрын
I recently built out a MoCA system, and MAN, it is just great. I think I 'hand-waved' over MoCA for a few years not really understanding it, or mentally equating it with PowerLine ethernet (which I've always heard terrible things about). I am so impressed with MoCA in my house; I've got the first floor built out with ethernet, and the second floor has two MoCA adapters bringing hardwiring to my desktops and the second WAP. It's just really solid.
@aaa000777
@aaa000777 4 жыл бұрын
The Cable Modem should always be connected to the highest signal level possible. This is especially important for the uplink signal. By running the cable signal to the cable modem through two splitters, multiple coax connections and unknown length of coax cable you are attenuating the signal more than 6 db. The signal level might be fine now but down the road the level from Comcast may weaken due to changing weather connections, deteriorating infrastructure. If this was my house I would connect the cable modem in the garage and find a way to get another cable (Cat5 or coax) between the garage and office.
@thezfunk
@thezfunk 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought he was running MoCA from his network back down to the garage so the modem was the first stop. That would solve his power failure point for his whole network too. He probably doesn't have a second coax though...
@JoshuaBurgess
@JoshuaBurgess 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine the internals of those MoCA adapters also contain some kind of splitter, unless theres some kind of magic i'm not aware of. It would be interesting to measure the loss with both methods and see which works better.
@neildingwall6534
@neildingwall6534 4 жыл бұрын
I have eight moca adapters across four different cable runs, all split multiple times with the modem (for unavoidable reasons) being at the end of the longest most split run and it still works great. I just put a high quality moca compatible amp between the incoming cable and the first four way split. Moca really has been a fantastic tech for me - concrete walls mean bad WiFi and no possibility of running Ethernet..
@johnvillalovos
@johnvillalovos 4 жыл бұрын
In my case the Comcast tech added an attenuator to the coax (as it goes into the cable modem), because the signal was too strong.
@philippest-yves7019
@philippest-yves7019 4 жыл бұрын
J'aurais simplement installé un alimentation de sécour (UPS) pour l'équipement installé dans le garage (Moca device, switch, camera) et gardé la première topology. Mais tu as raisons sur un fait, il y a des pertes de signal à chaque splitters. Deplus, je me demande si la tension de sortie de la prise MOCA de chaque appareil est standard ou est-il plus élevé? En plus des fréquences plus élevé également, cela nuit-il au modem? Je pense aux interférences... Concernant les diviseurs coax, on installe la plupart du temps du 5-1000 Mhz pour la télévision, du 5-2400 Mhz pour le satélite. Pour le MOCA, c'est du 5-2500 Mhz.
@cwichura
@cwichura 4 жыл бұрын
MoCA encrypts data over the coax cabling. However, to make things simple for no-technical people, all MoCA devices ship with the same default encryption keys so you can "just plug it in". While it is recommended to put a MoCA filter at the ingress point, it is also STRONGLY recommended to set your own encryption key on all your MoCA devices. This is part of the MoCA standard; all devices must support it. How you configure it tends to vary from device to device, however.
@massfrommars
@massfrommars 4 жыл бұрын
I have MoCA 2.5 setup completely dark using gocoax and it's met my expectations of turning the entire home coax network into a 1Gbps FD network. I tested p2p iperf around 950Mbps, and similar downloads on the speedtest using the 1 Gig bandwidth on the downlink. MoCA 2.5 supports 2.5Gbps total bandwidth, i.o.w. 1Gbps+ FD between 2 of the MoCA 2.5 nodes across 100+ m of coax. I am not sure what's wrong in your setup, but all your splitters may need to be looked into. MoCA requires splitters that support up to at least 1650 MHz frequency. I went with the one supporting 2500 MHz frequency, as there's little price difference. Also there's a possibility that your cable modem supports MoCA and in that case you don't need the MoCA adapter feeding your cable modem. If the modem supports it, turning MoCA on should be a toggle button on the UI, and then you can use the adapters in 2 separate coax outlets away from your modem.
@christinama839
@christinama839 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot thank you enough I’ve already seen an increase in Internet speed I’m using an xfinity router as well this whole video is great and helped me teach myself how to do this
@Timmexje
@Timmexje 4 жыл бұрын
As a Dutch cable tech this whole setup just made me cry
@Gepstra
@Gepstra 4 жыл бұрын
Echt, wat is dit...
@Timmexje
@Timmexje 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gepstra hopelijk bedoel je deze setup.. hahah
@Gepstra
@Gepstra 4 жыл бұрын
@@Timmexje ja 😆
@katewolf00
@katewolf00 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing in the Netherlands they just have Ethernet outlets on all the walls... one more reason to move out of America
@dalevought8054
@dalevought8054 4 жыл бұрын
Been working with MOCA for years in multiple installs. You need to check the band it operates in and make sure that band does not conflict with other things on the coax. Like satellite, Verizon, cable co etc. MOCA operates from 450 MHz to 1625. Make sure to get band filters. And a side note if you are only getting 100M between the 2 that is terrible speeds. As the name suggest 2.5 is rated at a throughput of 2.5 Gbps
@PowerUsr1
@PowerUsr1 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding LAN speeds. That’s exactly what I commented today. There are some serious issues with this setup if the best you can do between (presumably 2x 1G devices) is 100Mbps. For that you’re better off installing power line. For reference in my home I’m getting 925Mbps in my iperf test
@simonmortiz7428
@simonmortiz7428 2 жыл бұрын
THIS PERSON SHOULD BE AN INSTRUCTER NICE EXPLANTION VERY CLEAR...
@highfidelityinc
@highfidelityinc 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, As several people mentioned, there are some issues with your installation. Here is my 2 cents on my experience with MoCa. 1) You do not have a filter to prevent your neighbors from tapping in on your internet. 2) The way you have your splitters is causing a lot of loss for the MoCA signal. Splitters have very good isolation between the two out port (greater than 20dBs). Since you have two splitters, you are cutting your MoCa signal by 40dBs. It probably will still work but my guess you are not getting the full bandwidth out of your MoCa device (e.g. 1Gbps). 3) You are cutting the signal to your cable modem by at last 7dBs by having splitters in line. The solution to all of these is easy and doesn't require running new wire. The MoCa adaptors I use operation above 1GHz and CableTV/Internet operates below 850MHz. If your MoCa adapters also operate above 1GHz, you can use a couple of satellite Diplexers and solve all the above issues. Satellite Diplexers were a way years ago to send both Satellite Dish (which operatie above 1GHz) and Cable TV (below 850MHz) down down the same coax. You need to read the specs for the diplexer carefully. Basically, the TV side of the Diplexer needs to pass 5 to 850MHz and the Satellite side needs to pass everything above 1GHz. I use my specturm analyzer wiith a tracker generator to confirm this but I doubt you have a spectrum analyzer. I usually get them from my local distributor but this one looks like it will work: www.amazon.com/Heavy-Diplexer-Splitters-Satellite-Approved/dp/B00JJ10V8C/ref=pd_lpo_23_t_0/135-4781497-1689209?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00JJ10V8C&pd_rd_r=dc6b0a16-b7c9-4856-b83e-d91d03c2afc0&pd_rd_w=aVpld&pd_rd_wg=Gk7Ya&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=VR7CQTF2E73V0W0WWB27&psc=1&refRID=VR7CQTF2E73V0W0WWB27 So all you have to do is replace your two splitters with Diplexers. The in/out side of the basement diplexer connects to the in/out side of your office diplexer. The UHV/VHF side would go to your cable modem in the office and your Comcast connection in the basement. The SAT side would go to your MoCa devices. And that is it. You cable modem signal and your MoCa connections will now have very low loss and your Moca signal will be blocked from going out of your house. Contact me if you need any help. You sure have help me many times so it is the least I can do. Steve
@be-kind00
@be-kind00 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't even Diplexers introduce loss or noise? What about 2.5GBS compatability?
@highfidelityinc
@highfidelityinc 3 жыл бұрын
There will be some insertion loss with a Diplexer but it is usually only a couple of dBs. I have used Moca adapters with 50dBs line loss and they still work although some reduction in speed. So a few dBs loss in a diplexer is insignificant. The Moca adaptors I have tested with a Spectrum analyzer are transmitting in the 1 to 1.5GHz band. If you are using a Moca adapter that is using one of the channels below 1GHz (the ones I use do not because they are made to work with cable TV systems), well then, a satellite Diplexer won't work. Not sure if the 2.5G Moca use any of the bands below 1GHz but if the adapter has a cable TV output, you are probably safe.
@gregoryadair7470
@gregoryadair7470 4 жыл бұрын
In your setup are you feeding moca data back out to comcast, and as a result anyone on that physical coaxial connection with another moca device could gain access to your network?
@gaad7938
@gaad7938 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly a MOCA filter on the incoming CC line?
@mountainslopes
@mountainslopes 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you need to add an inline MOCA filter where the coax comes into the house. It's a small passive device that your ISP can give you.
@mountainslopes
@mountainslopes 4 жыл бұрын
He has one of these filters (vertically in the ingress box) which removes MOCA frequencies from the line.
@karlkaufman2659
@karlkaufman2659 4 жыл бұрын
He has a "PoE" MoCA filter installed; he just didn't explicitly mention the need or depict it in either schematic. (And he may not have even realized that "the filter" he pointed-out in the junction box was his "PoE" MoCA filter, keeping his MoCA network off the cable provider premise.)
@mountainslopes
@mountainslopes 4 жыл бұрын
@@karlkaufman2659 PoE and MOCA are two completely different things
@amh9565
@amh9565 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am very interested in the poster/art piece that you have behind you at 3:15 of the ethernet color standard. Where did you get that?
@merlingt1
@merlingt1 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is the best explanation I have found. Thank you.
@jtc1983tx
@jtc1983tx 4 жыл бұрын
Do a speed test without the splitters in line for comparison.
@nathansmith3401
@nathansmith3401 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't clear if the filter you kept pointing to at the demarc was a MoCA filter. It looked like a grounding attachment. do you have a MoCA filter at the demarc so your neighbors can't watch your cameras? Or is a filter somehow integral to your MoCA adapters?
@pearcomputers2542
@pearcomputers2542 4 жыл бұрын
I was also wondering about that. Semmed possible that he is broadcasting his moca signal into the cable network.
@CrosstalkSolutions
@CrosstalkSolutions 4 жыл бұрын
That is a MoCA filter. Most ISP’s put them on by default these days (I know Comcast does for sure).
@rosco77365
@rosco77365 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I was thinking the same thing, dear God did he just accidently rip a giant hole in his network?
@aschmitt89
@aschmitt89 4 жыл бұрын
This answers my anxiety-inducing questions! Thank you! So the moca filter stops the back-feed to the cable network! I freaking love this! I thought I was going to have to run ethernet to my whole house! This is much more economic and time-Conservative! Thank you for the upload, Chris!
@peterg.8245
@peterg.8245 4 жыл бұрын
Cox certainly doesn’t and it will really compromise the signal strength of a tiny MOCA adapter
@Deraco1
@Deraco1 4 жыл бұрын
This is cool. I didn't have a clear understanding what MoCA was and kept on running into it. Thanks Chris for the great videos as always!
@silversentrav
@silversentrav 4 жыл бұрын
I am running this same set of adapters, I am using it to link my two Asus AX3000 routers in mesh mode. This setup never misses a beat, it handles my Gbps connection with no issues. I had to move to this setup because the house here in Japan is concrete and this was the only way to connect the entire house under one network with good speeds.
@jimprichard1506
@jimprichard1506 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video as always. But, Something isn't right with your setup or the switch port is set to 100 Mbps. You should get 900+ Mbps bandwidth.
@bluearcherx
@bluearcherx 4 жыл бұрын
agree with this, i get 450 mbps, and my main 6 way splitter isn't the correct 1-2500 MHz type (yet)
@Gepstra
@Gepstra 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Makes me all the more glad that our fiber termination unit got installed yesterday in our village of 3000 people in the Netherlands.
@ronaldrische4601
@ronaldrische4601 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video. I’ve been using MoCA for over 7 years - works great. The speed should be much higher. Ensure you use correct splitters and filters as others have indicated. My initial tests showed 800mbps and can sustain 450mbps from wireless device AP to server.
@neildingwall6534
@neildingwall6534 4 жыл бұрын
In my experience, you should be capable of getting close to gigabit speeds from moca but you need to make sure that there are only good quality moca compatible splitters and/or amplifiers on the cable - it may be that there is an old low quality splitter somewhere in the cable run.
@jacobharvey2946
@jacobharvey2946 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, good splitters (moca uses specific frequencies), and you can also help things by adding terminators to any connections on the splitters that aren’t connected to anything. There’s also a simple part (name escapes me) that you can place between your line to the outside world to prevent data from leaving your house.
@neildingwall6534
@neildingwall6534 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobharvey2946 point of entry filter (or possible exit?)
@jacobharvey2946
@jacobharvey2946 4 жыл бұрын
@@neildingwall6534 Yup that’s it, a POE filter blocks the signal from leaving the house. Just has to be on the line coming into the house.
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 4 жыл бұрын
The house COAX wiring is probably old RG-59 not RG-6 or RG-6Q which could handle Gigabit ethernet. Plus not all of the Coax bandwidth is available because it also transporting cable TV, and since Coax is a single pair, you need to use half of the total avail bandwidth for Send & the other half for recieve (ie to support full duplex comms.)
@jacobharvey2946
@jacobharvey2946 4 жыл бұрын
@@guytech7310 Definitey could be old cable. Though what was shown in the video, at least at the box looked pretty new. But cable tv and the moca are on different spectrum. So good cable and splitters means it shouldn’t conflict.
@svenlindahl5607
@svenlindahl5607 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - you get straight to the point and go deep. This was very helpful and totally what I needed.
@rinusmxu
@rinusmxu 4 жыл бұрын
I have used these units for about two years now. Now problems with the devices but one of the adapters failed suddenly. Luckely these adapters are so common in our homes that I could solve the issue within half an hour. I use them to get ethernet at my television over the same coax as my digital television signal. Replay and recording depend on a good high speed internet connection. So far my wife is happy! Keep up with the videos! They are a constant source of info on my Ubiquiti system. Thanks for that! Regards, Rinus - the Netherlands.
@GreggSmith92587
@GreggSmith92587 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Blazing Saddles T-Shirt. I brought dimes.
@stevenbertram8226
@stevenbertram8226 4 жыл бұрын
Are using an RF filter to prevent sending MoCA out to your ISP?
@funnyashell581
@funnyashell581 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I was pulling my hair out trying to get this to work. It took a $5 MoCA Point of Entry filter to fix the issue.
@jasonax3184
@jasonax3184 4 жыл бұрын
I used these in my house. They are awesome and allow fast speeds. I have a direct connection to my router in the master closet and ran an ethernet cable to a MoCa adapter and from there to my Coax for my house. I have another MoCa adapter for my home entertainment center which is connected to an 8 port switch to provide internet to my TV, Fire Cube, Xbox, Blue Ray player and Receiver.
@scwrathify
@scwrathify 3 жыл бұрын
This went from "moca made easy" to "watch me change all my technical settings" in no time. Do you have to change all those settings to make it work?
@r.s.1348
@r.s.1348 3 жыл бұрын
Chris...great video. Are there adapters that can be applied directly to the coaxial outlet in each room, that will accomplish the same thing?
@thesuperknot_
@thesuperknot_ 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any reason you wouldn't default to setting the static/reserved in your Unifi controller instead of on the device itself? I always leave devices like this in DHCP mode and let my gateway or router specifically give out the correct address. That was Unifi knows it's static as well, and doesn't accidently give the address to another device if it goes offline for a period of time.
@panzerbulljr1
@panzerbulljr1 4 жыл бұрын
I would suspect that he had the DHCP range outside the area where he knows he has static devices (to mitigate the DHCP server from giving out already assigned addresses). I.e., his DHCP is .200.100 thru .200.200, so he knows anything below .100 is available to set a static ip on the device.
@mingkee27
@mingkee27 2 жыл бұрын
I have a pair (and 2 more coming) Motorola MoCA 2.5 adapters. I am impressed for the speed. The house has antenna cable running around the house, so I just utilize MoCA. Data transfer is ~90MB/s (around 720mbps) between floors compared with 120Mbps powerline. Make sure the splitter supports at least 2GHz
@cabreravaughn
@cabreravaughn 4 жыл бұрын
Curious you have the fist moca adapter hooked up to you camera system before it even gets to the modem, does the moca adaptor act as a modem and convert the coax to internet? I thought in order for it to pass internet along the house the modem should be the first thing it touches.
@sigurdtheblue
@sigurdtheblue 3 жыл бұрын
If that is true, could explain the terrible speed.
@Kraden26
@Kraden26 3 жыл бұрын
Does the first MoCa adapter HAVE to connect right where the cable comes in from the pole in the box? Or will it work if I follow where the main coax line comes into the house and connect the MoCa there? If I must plug the MoCa into the box where the cable comes in from the pole, I have the task of figuring out how to get power to it.
@mikek9066
@mikek9066 3 жыл бұрын
He did that in the video because he wanted a connection in his garage. You can install the first MoCA device wherever you normally have your modem, and the second where you need to extend your network to. And as others have commented, make sure to install the MoCA filter on the line coming into the house and use MoCA rated coaxial splitters.
@Kraden26
@Kraden26 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikek9066 ok cool. Thanks
@Cyberflow
@Cyberflow 4 жыл бұрын
oooh i want that "cat 5" picture on the wall 😂
@silvercoulter
@silvercoulter 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a buy link? I know a certain tier 2 networking friend who's birthday's tomorrow and I might need to get that by the end of the week for him.
@MorganTN
@MorganTN 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad to know I am not the only one that noticed that and thought I would like one of those.
@silvercoulter
@silvercoulter 4 жыл бұрын
So I’ve never painted anything since Elementary school before but I went out to the arts and crafts store and bought a canvas and paint and made one of those and gave it to him and he LOVED it.
@EdHourigan
@EdHourigan Жыл бұрын
Good informative video. Also - absolutely love the t-shirt. Where did you get it. I must have one. I quote that movie almost daily.
@BladeRunner-td8be
@BladeRunner-td8be 3 жыл бұрын
I'm only 11:00 into this, and I already gave my thumb up and subscribed. After watching no less than seven different videos about Moca, this one is the best by a large margin, and most of the videos I watched were quite good. Ok, finished the video, and I have to say that 90 Mbps is not enough for me to switch out my Wifi6 with two Orbi's. I'm sitting 80 feet from my router and getting close to 300 Mbps without connecting my VPN. With VPN, it drops considerably to ~170 Mbps. Moca Schmoca:📉 I can't help but wonder if a few configuration adjustments would increase the speed. Cheers
@sigurdtheblue
@sigurdtheblue 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is supposed to be way faster than this. Also, their splitters are very questionable. There is no db value given and you have to make sure that matches (probably 3.5) what your COAX is servicing. I have Spectrum and it says to make sure to use a 3.5 db splitter. Additionally, there is a much higher db value which is the interference resistance that can make a big difference in signal strength as well.
@javy96fly
@javy96fly 4 жыл бұрын
As a tech for Comcast I am cringing looking at the splitters your using lol
@Hepheastius
@Hepheastius 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I used to show customers how easy you can push your finger through the back. Please, replace those with comscope splitters.
@Hepheastius
@Hepheastius 4 жыл бұрын
Also, if your modem allows it, try hitting 192.168.100.1 and check your upstream and downstream signal strength. DS should be -10 to +10 and US should be around 40 at the highest signal strength to 51 at the lowest signal strength (higher number is worse strength, 53-53 and you'll start hitting that digital cliff).
@Firecop1421
@Firecop1421 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully that's a mocha filter on the ground block too
@joaopedroalbernaz
@joaopedroalbernaz 4 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Spectrum tech, almost vomited when I saw that golden splitter, I stopped watching right there
@joaopedroalbernaz
@joaopedroalbernaz 4 жыл бұрын
BTW: That golden splitter will count as a repeat on you Javier Ortiz. Because everything is a repeat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@robertcasey7312
@robertcasey7312 3 жыл бұрын
Did your TV capability remain unchanged? What type of camera did you use? What drive does camera record to? Was camera POE ? Thank You. The video is a great help.
@thatretiredguy8907
@thatretiredguy8907 4 жыл бұрын
Bought a pair on your recommendation and they work great. Have 2 questions, did you find a link to verify if you have the latest firmware? My firmware is 1.16.7. How did you log into the second device to change the IP address and PW, do they both have the same default login IP? Only one comes up with the default IP address on the unit plugged into the UDM and I did have the find other devices box checked. Do I have to switch units and then change the IP address of the second device separately?
@johnwfmak
@johnwfmak 4 жыл бұрын
And pre-share key between the two unit, or some sync to authenticate to pair the unit. So if your neighbor or a bad guy try to get in your network just by plugging in the same model or comparable moca adaptor with a politer at the outside of your house or same cable node. From your screen shot look like it got some hex key you can put in to secure your lan traffic on the moca side.
@kjakobsen
@kjakobsen 3 жыл бұрын
First hop redundancy at layer 1. Nice job.
@robloxguy1248
@robloxguy1248 4 жыл бұрын
To see the actual throughput in iperf add -w1M -P20 to the end of your command.
@markomus1
@markomus1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused: what is the difference between the "IN/OUT" port and the "MOCA" port? Because at 04:00 his diagram has the Internet signal connected to the IN/OUT port, but at 09:00 his diagram has the Internet signal connected to the MOCA port (albeit through the splitter).
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 4 жыл бұрын
The in/out is used for the cable TV signal. His cable modem is using the cable signal. So on one end of the house, he connecting the Moca "In" port to the incoming cable service, and on the other end of the house, the Moca "out" port is used to connect to the cable modem. Thus the Coax is carrying both the Cable signal as well as the ethernet signal.
@markomus1
@markomus1 4 жыл бұрын
@@guytech7310 Not to insult you, but I really do need to have this explained using clear and proper English. Normally I can decipher a few spelling and grammar errors, but I'm lost here.
@tomaxxamot2016
@tomaxxamot2016 4 жыл бұрын
His setup needs work it's not ideal
@MrBrendanpdx
@MrBrendanpdx 4 жыл бұрын
I like the art in the background! Is that a t-shirt per chance?
@OsamaAltobuli
@OsamaAltobuli 4 ай бұрын
Great video… thank you Does these MoCA adapters work in pair only or it can be more of them in a single set ( 3 way MoCA adapters connecting 3 rooms)
@brownlow101
@brownlow101 4 жыл бұрын
Drink every time Chris says MoCA.
@johnwfmak
@johnwfmak 4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about Costco mocha freeze mmmm yummmm.
@DiyintheGhetto
@DiyintheGhetto Жыл бұрын
My question is can you do multi moca setup? One coming from the router itself connected them to two room on the other end?
@rancidbeef582
@rancidbeef582 4 жыл бұрын
I bought three similar devices back in 2018. Mine are branded "Motorola". (Model MM1000 on Amazon). They were $60 when I bought them, but are $70 now (each). So for two they'd be slightly cheaper than the ones shown here. But they are only MoCA 2.0. Mine have worked flawlessly. And it came with everything you need including an ethernet cable, a filter to keep your network from escaping to the exterior cable (I didn't need this) and even a little wrench to tighten the coax with! And they handle VLANs with no issue. I didn't know if having three of them (using a splitter) would be a problem, but it doesn't appear to cause issues. I have Fiber internet and nothing is connected to the coax in my house. So these things are the only things using my coax network, so I can't speak to its compatibility with other stuff. While I would have loved to run Cat 6 throughout the house, that would be almost impossible the way my house is built. (Edit) Mine are completely "passthrough" bridge devices. The devices I have don't get IP addresses. There was nothing to configure.
@JasonVailUXGuy
@JasonVailUXGuy 4 жыл бұрын
You can still connect to the default ip address of the device. 192.168.0.2
@rancidbeef582
@rancidbeef582 4 жыл бұрын
@@JasonVailUXGuy Which device? Basically it's completely transparent. If my router was 192.168.0.1 and my computer in one of the rooms serviced by the moca device was 192.168.0.2, then I can connect between the two (router and computer) just as if they were connected by a single Cat 6 cable. Or the same as if only a switch connected the two. I've never run a speed test, but I know it's much faster than my Wi-fi. Probably close to the rated 1 Gbps.
@JasonVailUXGuy
@JasonVailUXGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@rancidbeef582 MM1000 Is transparent, but they still have a default IP. www.motorolacable.com/douments/MM1000-Software-Release-Information_v1.0.0.8.pdf
@rancidbeef582
@rancidbeef582 4 жыл бұрын
​@@JasonVailUXGuy Ah, ok. That's just so you can upgrade its firmware. So it apparently has a fixed IP of 192.168.0.2. I guess it's good that I'm not using the 192.168.0.0/24 subnet or it would trounce one of my devices.
@JamfSlayer
@JamfSlayer 4 жыл бұрын
It's a cute way to set up a quick network with your neighbors, but also share with everyone else on your hub. If those don't come with the filter, please connect a MoCA filter :) I think I saw one in your junction box outside.
@BoricuaFez
@BoricuaFez 4 жыл бұрын
Nice setup. Currently using the MoCA adapters from Motorola. What I did was made a Telco line in which is a single coax from my connection box straight into my modem and another separate coax cables to make the network setup with using the existing coax cable. The only hard was finding where the existing coax began and ended.
@jacobharvey2946
@jacobharvey2946 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact... have you ever used two cable boxes, one being a DVR, from the cable company and watched video on the “satellite” box? Did you wonder how the video streamed from the main box to the other one? Yup, you guessed, they were using the MOCA spectrum.
@xwatchid
@xwatchid 2 жыл бұрын
Could you mod any old cable box to build your own moca?
@MrNodoz
@MrNodoz 3 жыл бұрын
What software did you use for the diagram?
@aperson1181
@aperson1181 2 жыл бұрын
What is this "filter" that you are using in your garage to filter the Comcast signal?
@chuckchilloutable1
@chuckchilloutable1 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. I have a xfi gateway. I enabled the MOCA in it. Now can I just add the MoCA filter to the cable entering the house then cable that to my Xfi Gateway. Then after that how can I connect this gateway to a MoCA splitter so I can get connection to more than one room in the house?? Out of the 10 cables I have only one that is connected to a room in the house where I don’t want it to be. I’m just stuck on what adapter I can use that goes from my MoCA enable router to the splitter 3 days ago
@chrisleslie1988
@chrisleslie1988 3 жыл бұрын
You should have a mocha filter between you and Comcast so no one else can connect. Also if you wanna clean up the office coaxial you can put the splitter behind the wall to a double wall plate and then only two cables coming off of that :)
@marklyon
@marklyon 4 жыл бұрын
Does this splitter setup make your MOCA network available to other homes connected to your node?
@nadavbasson5064
@nadavbasson5064 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question about the connection to the uvc g4 camera - did you have to put the switch between the moca and the camera? Could you just plug the Ethernet cable directly from the Moca to the camera instead?
@aperson1181
@aperson1181 2 жыл бұрын
And this adapter will not interfere with the existing Comcast Internet signal already coming through the coax cable? Also, this adapter is no longer available on Amazon, any alternatives or places where to get your recommendation?
@tzisorey
@tzisorey 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this would work with the coax cables I have in place for the FreeToAir antenna... since it's pretty much worthless for anything else.
@davidmarino143
@davidmarino143 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, are you going to make an unboxing and set up video on the UVC G4 Bullet cameras and how they differ from the G3 and G4 Pro’s?
@CrosstalkSolutions
@CrosstalkSolutions 4 жыл бұрын
Yes - coming soon!
@davidmarino143
@davidmarino143 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chris. They have just landed in Australia 🇦🇺 and am getting some this weekend. Can't wait for your video review.
@regasin
@regasin 4 жыл бұрын
So, for those mentioning it. Common practice by all coaxial ISP providers is to add a MoCA filter at the terminating block to a household. The filter Chris pointed out originally is a MoCA filter. However generally speaking, you do want to isolate MoCA coaxial networks from general household coaxial networks. This is due to additional noise being on the line, and MoCA works on a Node to Node bases. Where each splitter/splice/connection in between weakens the signal. Most MoCA compliant devices are not very strong amplifiers to prevent disrupting normal household activities. So limiting your connections between links is best practice. However annoying to actually implement. This implementation will work alright, however may disrupt any common MoCA connections in use by comcast such as the XB/XF lines of products which uses MoCA to connect between their gateway and the TV access points. In which case you would need to isolate the internet MoCA network from the TV network in order to have both function normally or use a RF analyzer to determine which available RF spectrum you can configure your device to use to avoid collision.
@1wayticket1
@1wayticket1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris just watched your video on the MoCA Made Easy! and was wondering if you had a building across the street and you only wanted to use it for computer data purposes could you fit a antenna with point to point view so you could transmit data only with out having both offices connected to have an internet connection.
@sub1one88
@sub1one88 Жыл бұрын
did anybody reply to you? i would like to know the answer too! lol
@ltai0001
@ltai0001 3 жыл бұрын
Do these have to be in pairs or can I install for instance 3 in different locations?
@mikek9066
@mikek9066 3 жыл бұрын
They don't work in pairs necessarily, just need 2 devices to start, then one for each additional location.
@StevePatak
@StevePatak 4 жыл бұрын
Does the coax cable type make a difference in speed or is it limited by the adapters?
@tomaxxamot2016
@tomaxxamot2016 4 жыл бұрын
Always use RG6
@StevePatak
@StevePatak 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomaxxamot2016 that's fine if you're installing new coax, but if you are using what was installed in the 90s I was curious what degradation of speed you might see.
@GHZsolutions
@GHZsolutions 4 жыл бұрын
very good contribution, what is the maximum distance that I can use in a MoCA connection
@VP411Designs
@VP411Designs 4 жыл бұрын
great video. Thanks for sharing. quick question. How or what is the best way to send a hard wired eithernet connection for ring doorbell or a tv that requires internet but would be better hardwired? Is that from the at&t modem backend to the back end of the device or can this be done from the attic based on your wiring layout in this video?
@TravisNewton1
@TravisNewton1 4 жыл бұрын
Houses built in 2020 still don't have Ethernet ran...
@CyberonDK
@CyberonDK 3 жыл бұрын
What would happen if i am using the Coax for Cable TV signal, would a MoCa connection interfere with that ?
@sigurdtheblue
@sigurdtheblue 3 жыл бұрын
It shoudl be compatible as long as you use an internet provider that matches the cable provider.
@Double_Vision
@Double_Vision 4 жыл бұрын
The premiere system is so frustrating. Why not just release the video?
@huntermoronie8545
@huntermoronie8545 4 жыл бұрын
It allows the quality processing for youtube to do its thing, for the video to be cache to it's most viewed audiences on different servers around the globe... This way everyone can get a notification before and know when it's going up regardless of their time zone... It's a good tool for creators.
@CrosstalkSolutions
@CrosstalkSolutions 4 жыл бұрын
It's so that I can interact with folks live in chat - answer questions on the fly and what not. You don't have to watch the premiere - just wait till afterwards.
@Double_Vision
@Double_Vision 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrosstalkSolutions Aaaahhhh! I thought it might be a pre-recorded video being released via a Premiere, like many others have done. Love your work, and rely on your Unifi explanations! I withdraw my salt!
@MikeHarris1984
@MikeHarris1984 4 жыл бұрын
Agree.... I HATE PREMIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@AndrewWells527
@AndrewWells527 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see the big deal. The premiere feature just allows you to see the future, like a video is about to be released.
@silvercoulter
@silvercoulter 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, that splutter in the garage is backwards and the input should be the office line but I am pretty sure it's just a hub so it probably doesn't matter at all. But in the office it looks fine.
@avstech8096
@avstech8096 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. My question isn't product related...where did you find the TIA 568b canvas print?
@cbremer83
@cbremer83 4 жыл бұрын
So, I have looked into these for my home. My home was new construction and all the lines where unfinished in the basement.They used CAT5e for the phones and there are COAX lines as well. I changed the phone to ethernet and some are used. But COAX are still not terminated. If I am understanding this correctly, I should be able to run all the COAX lines into a single splitter with one adapter in the room all my cables terminate at. Then, just put one at each end I want output from. I was under the impression before that I would need an adapter on both ends of each cable. If I am understanding the right, it makes doing this a hell of a lot cheaper.
@sigurdtheblue
@sigurdtheblue 3 жыл бұрын
The splitter only accepts one and is really cheap anyway. You also are more likely to get good results with a splitter haivng less outputs.
@JasonLeaman
@JasonLeaman 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting ! :P I need this at home for my down stairs tv !
@paulmiano7029
@paulmiano7029 Жыл бұрын
Say your house is wired for coax and you have a smart box where all the coax converges. You want to keep your modem in that box but convert all of those coax cables to ethernet. Would you need two moca boxes for each one?
@raztechstudios
@raztechstudios 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering will this work if you ISP is network cable and not Coax cable. Would I just be using the cat5 as my feed into the moca and then it would travel through my wall using coax to the other moca and then provide network connection once I plug in the cat5 from there either direct to a device or switch ?
@pulpfxn
@pulpfxn 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Patronesofly
@Patronesofly 2 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to assume you do not use any tvs with coaxial from your provider?
@netirix
@netirix 4 жыл бұрын
Looks Good great detailing as always (need to see that empty box rolling down the street), as you stated 90mbps is fine for your solution; then have you tested this without the ISP feed and see if the 90mbps increases? For me this is something that may not work as the usage in my own scenario, then again the feed for me comes directly to my room (2nd floor, house top level) then run regular I run cat6 and most of users are Wifi instead of using the original inhouse Coax network to utilize as another end point for the APs. Cheers!
@JamesFraley
@JamesFraley 2 жыл бұрын
What prevents some on the same cable system from accessing my network?
@FLJD427
@FLJD427 4 жыл бұрын
Is the MoCA adapter going to interfere with the existing cable TV signal and internet if i split it upstream of the cable modem? Should I just use ROKU and the cable company's app to get tv over internet and not connect the bedroom tv's to the demarc splitter? I am in a condo and do not want neighbors to be able to backlink into my network and try hacking into my router. I am thinking it might be best to disconnect part of my unit from the active cable TV live feed and make it dedicated lan via MoCA and routers/extenders.
@doubleub3
@doubleub3 3 жыл бұрын
Any advice for a setup that starts OUTSIDE? I've got cable that hits a box outside but branches off to coax on a splitter in an attic
@doubleub3
@doubleub3 3 жыл бұрын
Any suggestions for a connection that doesn't terminate INSIDE the home?
@rcote1234
@rcote1234 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! Question, just trying to extend my LAN over an existing 350 ft coax between 2 buildings. Ie, not trying to “split” my ISP/cable service. Can these 2 devices simply take an Ethernet connection from a switch and extend it over coax to another switch or access point? If so, concerns about distance? Thanks.
@CAHOP2401
@CAHOP2401 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! A proper diagram for wiring one of these up when your modem and router are not in the same device.
@jamesdoyle7317
@jamesdoyle7317 4 жыл бұрын
Does a moca adapter replace a modem? I don't have cable tv, only internet from Spectrum. Lots of diagrams show the modem only hooked up if you have cable tv.
@Optimus02357
@Optimus02357 4 жыл бұрын
I would go with Actiontec for MoCA.
@Placesandspaces35
@Placesandspaces35 4 жыл бұрын
Gocoax is cheaper and a better performer IMO.
@nonobzh
@nonobzh 4 жыл бұрын
I saw that you are using a splitter in your garage. I wonder if using a combiner could add less attenuation.
@RobHartmann2024
@RobHartmann2024 5 ай бұрын
Hi. I have FTTH coming into my home into a router. What cable do I use to connect the router to the moca device? Cheers
@Anthraxnz64
@Anthraxnz64 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a review of the G4-Bullet? Doesn't seem to be much online about it. G3-Bullet, G3-Flex, G4-Bullet comparison would be good like that one you did a few years ago
@billligon4005
@billligon4005 2 жыл бұрын
So I use the T-Moble Home Internet device. Can I set it up with MoCA adapter? How do I do that?
@cyrusmohammad9639
@cyrusmohammad9639 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a nice and informative video. I have used only one MM1025 Moca adapter to replace the Fios G3100 adapter. However it doesn't work and Motorola's website and support is useless. Your schech shows that there is no router or modem in your garage. I connect my Moca Ethernet port to my Nest router but doesn't work unless I'm connected to Verizon's G3100 outer. Do you ahve any idea if I'm doing something wrong? Thank you
@tupax0705
@tupax0705 3 жыл бұрын
My coaxial ports aren't activated by spectrum, so would I still be able to run ethernet through my coax system? Like I tried moving my modem and router around to all of the different coax ports in my house and only the ones with a cable box currently at them work. Can I still run internet through the non working ports? They are all connected at a central point in my house with splitters.
@buerto96
@buerto96 3 жыл бұрын
I have Uverse so I’m not utilizing the existing coax in my house. I bought comtrend GCA-6000. I hooked the Ethernet into the device from the modem and then into the coax. It wasn’t able to get a signal but it linked and Ethernet was active. Do I need to set this up from the main feed and us a splitter? I can’t find a lot of info on utilizing coax when someone has Uverse
@crizz6397
@crizz6397 4 жыл бұрын
Does this degrade your Comcast signal with all those splitters?
@jake3174
@jake3174 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue and solved it with a pair of Zyxel Powerline adapters for $90. Simply put one in the garage on a power outlet and the other on a power outlet in your home office. This will handle the network connectivity for your switch and cameras and then have your Comcast circuit go straight to your home office from the garage DEMARC using your existing coax. No splitters, no extra patch cables, etc. Just need to make sure your circuit breakers are non Arc Fault Breakers. Fairly cheep to buy normal breakers. It's a lot cleaner approach.
@greghorne8949
@greghorne8949 4 жыл бұрын
For a network that I want protection on, I isolate the MoCA network from the cable network. Not sure I can trust that the MoCA filter is "working". At minimum I would test that I can not sync to the MoCA network on the public side of the filter. May be easier for me as I only have Internet and not cable TV these days.
@andychrest8876
@andychrest8876 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do VLANS through Moca?
@jimprichard1506
@jimprichard1506 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mwjones71
@mwjones71 4 жыл бұрын
As others have said, you need to make sure there is a MoCA filter on the line from Comcast (But looking at your service box, that filter you have may already be a MoCA filter, but you should at least double check). Likewise you need to make sure that the splitters you're using are MoCA rated. I have Gigabit fiber coming in, and use MoCA over the unused coax of my apartment to connect my entertainment center in the living room to my office (and incoming Internet connection). I routinely get 500+ Meg over the MoCA link.
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