Sora Is Really Stupid. Good.

[@MockRockTalk]

Clarification: I've had some comments telling me Sora _can_ cancel his side B before all 3 hits come out. I actually know that, what I meant was that doing so still sends you into freefall rather than letting you take more actions afterwards, but probably could've phrased that better. Sora is, if nothing else, really interesting, and I'm flat-out ignoring any tier list placements on him for quite some time haha, he's got a really distinct play style that we've never quite seen before in the series. Definitely not as straightforward as he first looked, even if my crusty gameplay isn't the ideal way to show that off. Let me know your early thoughts on Sora and thanks for watching! -Main channel: kzbin.info -Twitter: twitter.com/MrMockRock -Twitch: www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch -Patreon: www.patreon.com/mockrock -Teespring: teespring.com/stores/mockrock

[@ASHtheSLUGCAT]

Honestly my first impressions were he's bad but time will tell I guess.

[@youtubecat3809]

@@ASHtheSLUGCAT half of the dlc be like

[@mr.luigi0013]

I was testing sora and yes, his side b can be cancel, not only from the first attack, from the second attack can be cancel.

[@ghostraptor1741]

I’m more focused on the fact sora animorphed into mewtwo

[@nanashi7779]

@@ASHtheSLUGCAT I remember when people used to say that about Steve

[@MythicMachina]

Sora is for the most part is just a really fun character, and I think that's what Ultimate needed to close off with. Not every DLC needs to be just this crazy character with a ton of inputs or a unique gimmick. Sora is still pretty unique though, but I'm glad that he isn't the new Bayonetta.

[@personpersonson7958]

I just wish he wasn't the last character. He totally should be in smash, but really master chief, Dante, crash bandicoot, or any other classic character would fit as a better closer imo.

[@StephenStraughan]

@@personpersonson7958 I mean, your opinion is wrong, but it's still your opinion.

[@MythicMachina]

@@personpersonson7958 Nah, I think he's perfect for the final DLC. Sora was a character that people thought was impossible, as well as THE single most requested character.

[@wuvumgywgy]

@@personpersonson7958 Literally any other one than him? Seems like you just don't like sora which is fine.

[@FenexTheFox]

@@personpersonson7958 I think Sora is the perfect closing character both because of the legal nightmare, and because he *is* the crossover guy. It's his whole thing to go to different world and see different mascots, so it feels super fitting, as if Sora was the missing link that connects all of Smash together. I don't know, it just feels like closing an arc, if you get what I mean?

[@dbgr9875]

This take on making an "air fighter" really resonates with me, it feels like the air is Sora's domain, with some absolutely bonkers floatiness, huge air-stalling multihits, and obviously up and side b. It's like he isn't bound by gravity, to polar opposite of someone like Fox.

[@loganthekiwimaster4421]

*Bayonetta is typing*

[@dbgr9875]

@@loganthekiwimaster4421 Oh yeah her

[@firebirdchild975]

I just like that it feels like I'm playing well sora. Kingdom Hearts is a very different game than smash but it really does feel as playing the character I play in that game which is a very impressive thing

[@decidueyefan3844]

I swear every time I end up playing fox it feels like someone turned up the gravity

[@dbgr9875]

@@decidueyefan3844 I mean, the devs quite literally turned up his gravity

[@user-mq1ng6sj7b]

"The good stuff about him is stupid, the bad stuff about him is stupid. He's just... a really stupid character in an interesting way though." So then the smash team has perfectly represented Kingdom Hearts in its entirety. That's why I love the series

[@sketch-eee4165]

He is perfectly silly and I love him.

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

Yeah sounds about right. Riku takes himself fairly seriously, but Sora is a self-taught doof with Peter Pan's pixie dust, and it shows, and I love him for it.

[@castform7]

"Interestingly stupid" is honestly one of the best ways to describe this character. I think he's really fun personally. I do agree on the sound design for some moves though. Bair and Up air always feel like they should be doing less than they actually are. Also I've noticed Thundaga can be very unreliable at times speaking from personal experience. One thing I do really like are his animations. Very flowy and joyful.

[@delta3244]

It's also a good way to describe his home series

[@MentaAzul]

It fits his character as well, lol

[@castform7]

@@MentaAzul I was actually gonna say it reflected Sora as a character but I haven't seen too much of Kingdom Hearts so I didn't want to make an assumption and trigger a KH fan lol.

[@mannydani9180]

Yeah, it seems like Thundaga only has a hitbox on the bottom of the bolt itself unlike Pikachu and Pichu which the entire bolt is active...probably for the best though

[@LazyStarrfish]

You all are correct. The sound effects just don’t have the oomph that you might expect

[@four-en-tee]

The sound design on him is very faithful to Kingdom Hearts. Also, the reason Sora is as floaty as he is is because he had Tinker Bell's pixie dust sprinkled on him in KH1. As for the other games, its just a move that you tend to relearn, but he's generally just as floaty in those games as he is in Smash.

[@alicon852]

I really really like sora. I don't know why, but his weird playstyle and physics just kinda fit me, really well in fact, and his combos seem like they're not TOO hard, but not braindead easy which I like a lot. As well as his weird pseudo-resource management game with neutral b? He's just cool.

[@HomestarRunner20X6]

You really really like a broken character that immediately gives you an advantage? SHOCKING

[@alicon852]

@@HomestarRunner20X6 lmfao what

[@kingkilla777]

Same.I think cause ive played kingdom hearts alot I'm used to his movement in smash hes very floaty

[@Lightningstrike1220]

@@kingkilla777 it's funny, he quickly resonates with those who already know how floaty he is in his own games.

[@Shantaq]

@@Lightningstrike1220 Anyone that played the games know just how floaty he can be and don't get surprised by what they already know. As for him being the next bayonetta, I can't disagree more. He can kill off the top sure, but I don't see it being anywhere close to the get touched once by Bayonetta and you will instantly lose a stock in a matter of seconds off the top.

[@PikminandOatchi]

"If you are treating him as a fundamental sword character". That's the exact wrong way to use him. He's anything but fundamental.

[@TrueReverse74]

(No sarcasm) THANK YOU! You wouldn't think that needed to be said but it does

[@emberthefox4951]

Kinda stating the obvious but I think you're also doing those who scroll before finishing the video a favor.

[@mannydani9180]

I LOVE Sora, I grew up playing Kingdom Hearts so I was always gonna pick him up as a secondary. I've played Mewtwo so his floatyness didn't take long for me to adapt to and i love his combo game, already finding some fun stuff with him, particularly with nair fastfall shenanigans

[@MrAfflix]

Same grew up playing the KH series. Gona make him my secondary, my main is Mewtwo so I wasn’t really put off with the floatiness and also how floaty Sora can be in the original games.

[@Latias38]

@@MrAfflix It feels like all the Mewtwo mains here just hit the jackpot.............I main Mewtwo and Rosalina & Luma and I really like playing him soooo; hopping on the train guys hope you like my company

[@MsBJfoster]

Regarding Sora's Down Smash, it does say in game (Tips) that the beginning of the attack has some intangibility to it, but I don't have the tech to know to what extent that is.

[@squid-ink2628]

He is fully intangible on frame 3-6, and has lower body intangibility for a few more frames.

[@MsBJfoster]

@@squid-ink2628 Thank you!

[@VinjeXP]

That would certainly explain why cloud blade beam passed me when I dsmash. Probably one of my favorite smashes on sora.

[@xolotltolox7626]

So you don't have the game?

[@Shantaq]

It's also a great way to threaten people staying in shield when fully charged up. Seen some shield breaks happen because of this.

[@AlmightySock]

Sora is Hella fun and really strong, but no kidding his disadvantage is awful. Not only does he die super quickly but cause of how slow his attacks are, he really doesn't have many options against speedier opponents. All that said though, I think his insane advantage and edge guarding will land him comfortably in high tier

[@russiancheems2275]

3 hit combos tho

[@AlmightySock]

@@russiancheems2275 yeah that'll get learned super quick I think. Can't see people struggling with it for more than a week or 2

[@illford]

@@AlmightySock it will still work. Because it's anout timing with it as opposed to just spamming

[@alfredc.7777]

I swear, the high tier section in this game is gonna be over saturated. Literally that’s the Median of were characters are placed. Next thing we’ll probably have is “Low High Tier, Mid High Tier, Top High Tier, S High Tier.”

[@Lightningstrike1220]

@@alfredc.7777 or maybe this tier nonsense is made up bull crap by elitists over a party game that doesn't take itself seriously.

[@dorsecode7762]

He feels like KH1 Sora, right about the time you unlock guard. Not the crazy Sora of the future; I guess I should've guessed as much. I'm happy he's in though, would consider picking him up and actually putting hours into the game to get good if I weren't so f-ing stupid.

[@demonicgrub1025]

Sora is really fun imo, and i genuinely think his strengths outpace his weaknesses. His ability to do drag down cancel combos makes mr think he'll do really well in the hands of a skilled and dedicated player, and his standard playstyle is easy enough that pretty much anyone can pick him up and enjoy playing him, regardless of experience in the game. That pretty much makes him one of the best dlc characters imo, at least in terms of game design.

[@odie9496]

Everyone in hungryboxs chat was like hes low tier and i thought it was funny

[@juanwashington-cruz2294]

I thought he was too lol. Nit anymore

[@LazyStarrfish]

I thought he was a bit weak at first. But he’s only going to get better with more time and optimization. Sure there are some things that he could use buff wise, but he’s very good

[@illford]

@@LazyStarrfish See I knew he'd be mod to high because Eid you've seen SSF2 Sora he's a bit busted at low level but still good at high level. And he plays strangely similar to that game

[@PLASBEZ]

He's like Little mac except edge guarding is his domain instead of the ground

[@rayshiotile9487]

@@PLASBEZ oh god a little mac Sora team would rough to deal with

[@xxivletxx]

Sora feels incredibly awkward but also fun to play as. I main Robin, so his slow mobility didn’t really off-put me, but his floaty air mobility really did. Like… Sora’s double jump caught me off guard at first. Some of his moves like dair are kind-of stupid, but I get the feeling that Sora is a bit too honest. Definitely very fun, but I don’t think I’ll main him.

[@LUNCHLEAMs]

How does it feel being 1 of 10 Robin mains

[@shadycactus7896]

Never thought I'd meet a Robin main

[@megatrollz5368]

Uhhh robin?

[@joelcomer]

I play little Mac and dedede, so this was a major change. I like him though.

[@shadycactus7896]

@@joelcomer Sora is the polar opposite of Little Mac, the change must be brutal

[@connergoldsborough4093]

You CAN cancel side b by letting go of the stick and button.

[@10thletter40]

Very large end lag on the cancel though, the move is useless for higher levels 😅

[@XionMurasami]

I've been pretty busy with my job, so I haven't touched ultimate in a very very long time. But because i've been a KH fan and have been wanting him since even the brawl days, I can say that he legitimately feels like classic KH Sora. He's floaty, his attacks are snappy, and his ground and air mobility is JANK AF. So i feel right at home with him.

[@awsumyojimbo1963]

Something I'd like to add to the discussion about his neutral b is that while not perfect, is a good move for him to use in disadvantage, particularly thundaga. Like say if you're knocked off stage, you can use it to halt your momentum (during double jump animation and while falling) and potentially keep him from getting edge guarded by some characters. Thundaga while facing the stage is actually a good way to keep characters away from the ledge and most characters can't or don't want to deal with that because of thundaga's knockback. Something I have incorporated into my playstyle with sora and it has worked well for me personally.

[@Shantaq]

His spells are also a good way to stall in the air for a following aerial.

[@Rannger31]

1:13 you pretty much summarized Sora's character all trought the kingdom hearts series

[@celiafrostborn]

From what I have played as him he is not low tier like Hbox and the chat seemed to think. He is a pretty strong character with good essential moves that is very punishable when he starts to lose due to weight. He will only be as the player who has the essentials down themselves and won't carry anyone on his own and that is okay.

[@skyshoesmith6098]

He's a magic swordfighter, I love this sort of character personally, especially with the crazy physics

[@bangaliekanu5852]

Robin: cries

[@sonymicronin]

@@bangaliekanu5852 Robins Sword play is boring but has dope magic though

[@thatguystandingbehindyou0_0]

vice versa

[@chiptuna8292]

It's just Mewtwo physics, nothing too crazy. I can understand it being difficult for people who've never played such a floaty character though.

[@skyshoesmith6098]

@@bangaliekanu5852 I genuinely enjoy Robin!

[@iaxacs3801]

Sora to me feels like if a Toon Link just dropped zoning to go on the aggressive. I'm seeing a lot of top players pick up how I play Toon for Sora. Especially that tendency to favor Up-B as a kill move in the corner screen, very similar feeling smash attacks, a nasty back throw that goes for distance over height with it's launch angle and a reliance on D-Air as the preferred method of fast falling since they're both pretty floaty. Watch out for the aggressive Toon Link picking up Sora, the skillset will transfer and they already know how to kill with that Up-B. Source: Me, a gremlin of a Toon Link who doesn't know what zoning is.

[@hammieli1875]

The first thing I thought during Sora’s presentation was that his key blade feels weightless

[@namenamename390]

"Sakurai described him as a bare bones fighter, but I don't think that's true" Well Sakurai also said that Min Min struggled against jumping approaches, but then they gave her one of the best up smashes in the game

[@phantombroker6856]

I like that you talked about his moves being deceptively powerful when I’ve thought the exact same thing about his f smash

[@randompoet9997]

Thundaga is going to be a noob killer that noobs can use. Three very tall lightning bolts that are spaced out enough to have serious horizontal range, it is one of the best and easiest onstage edge guards in the whole game.

[@10thletter40]

At the same time though it misses easily. I feel like the aerials have enough range to where that is useless

[@iaxacs3801]

It's like Pika-thunderbolt except smaller and coming after you.

[@grandsongames1582]

Bro Mkleo doesn't predict just top tiers, he creates them with sheer force of will

[@chiptuna8292]

I don't know why everyone is having so much trouble with him. He handles almost identically to Mewtwo. He's swordfighter Mewtwo. It's not that awkward lol.

[@KevSB07]

I love his sound effects and I've honestly gotten very easily used to how strong his aerials are despite it Idk they were misleading at first but I found it easy to accept the fact that his moves kill

[@Latias38]

Same, the sound design isnt there but then you stop caring when Up B starts killing at 110 from center stage, or you even do a simple Landing Fair 1 > Fsmash; yea, he hurts

[@foiletta1987]

His voice is hell tho

[@KevSB07]

DodOtter AJ not really

[@foiletta1987]

@@KevSB07 "TAKE THAT" TAKE THAT TAKE THAT TAKE THAT

[@KevSB07]

@@foiletta1987 i like it, idk

[@No_Named_Nobody]

I started playing Smash again just for Sora. He’s so much fun to play

[@aozorahaou2643]

It really feels like I'm playing Kingdom Hearts fighting game since most of Sora's fighting style is air combos which fits his name meaning sky making him well a sky fighter

[@MaxWelton]

Sora being stupid is actually a really inspired design choice, given that Kingdom Hearts is very stupid

[@Matanumi]

Indeed

[@feamtortress2]

Sora’s down smash spends all but 2 frames at the start untouchable from below. He gets full-body invincibility for a few frames starting frame 3 and his legs stay invincible even longer, and the moment he lands from the jump, he can immediately act out of it. Basically, at ledge, do not use a ledge getup attack vs it.

[@camharkness]

I've been having so much fun with sora. Like a lot if fun.

[@QuintessentialWalrus]

It was gonna be hard to top Sephiroth as my favorite DLC character in Ultimate, but Sora just might do it. He's SO simple and fun, just like he should be, but he also feels unique with a lot of hidden depth -- but he's not TOO unique, so he still feels like a typical Smash character. He's a blast at every skill level!

[@TasteTheRainbow346]

@@QuintessentialWalrus you could say he's simple and clean? I'll see myself out

[@ShOwOba]

So fun, so whimsical, so floaty, so confusing... All I wanted from this lovely guy.

[@kicksyo2171]

He's much different than I expected him to be, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is something that I'll have to get used to. This is a character that I really wanted in smash, so I'm not just gonna give him up today to solely for the fact that I have to learn how to use them personally. Also, his crawl... i've been a kingdom hearts fan for almost all my life, and I don't know if that's a reference to something, or if Sakuria just wanted to add something funny and random to him, but it's ridiculous.🤣

[@crushedmilkshake6690]

i'm kinda new to playing ssbu but i've been playing as sora for hours now so i've grown so used to him that his moves aren't any more awkward than whenever i try to play as a new character

[@destroyermcw626]

I was gonna start as Sonic (Because Brawl) then Sora

[@beansfebreeze]

I was a little let down during the showcase, but it feels great to actually play him. Sora is such an odd character. It's like Sakurai went into this with the philosophy he used with sm4sh Cloud (very simple that anyone could do well with) but gave us just enough wiggle room to do nonsense with.

[@nasapeepo]

“Interestingly stupid” oh so it’s just like kingdom hearts, perfect!

[@ryuumajin]

At this rate, can Sora ever be defeated out of the ring? HE'S A FRIGGIN' FLYER THROUGH AND THROUGH!

[@maromania7]

Sora is exactly what I hoped- honest, with glaring flaws and strengths on his sleeve. It'll be a while before we'll really see where he lands, but he brings a unique feel to play with and against so far. I mean sure he's light enough that he dies low and going into disadvantage can end poorly quick, but never have I been so afraid to follow someone off ledge if the combo doesn't kill.

[@Luigiofthegods]

Daily reminder that Sora's up-B makes him sound like Doodlebob

[@comicsans3469]

Sora isn't my favorite DLC Character, but I love him

[@hacksmash]

about the sound design: in KH every weapon in the game has it's own unique hitting sound, the kingdom key being the first keyblade you get in the game it's sound effects are pretty basic

[@OhFrittata]

I genuinely love Sora’s physics. Being a longtime player of KH, his physics feel almost EXACTY like he does in the games, so I felt right at home playing him.

[@mimmikyute]

it took seeing Sora in smash to realize that yeah, his natural home is in the air. I haven't played anything other than KH1 and 2 but the game always more fun when you're in the air even from just one jump. They did him so right here, I love that the lock on is exactly what it is in the games.

[@steelbeans]

Im glad everyone had the issue of "none of these moves look like they should kill"

[@fettyrocx1318]

Sora feels like Lucas with a sword and good burst options

[@pika4668]

I love this floaty boy and his ridiculous physics

[@bennettstokes195]

As a mewtwo main I'm mad jealous of his edge guarding/recovery 😤 I'm like woody in toy story and I'm thinking about pushing him out the window. Only problem is he can actually fly unlike buzz

[@rayshiotile9487]

push him out the window and he'll fly back in on the other side of the house

[@chiptuna8292]

Lucky for us though he handles pretty much identically to Mewtwo, and while I like Mewtwo... I also like Sora. Might just move to swordfighter Mewtwo for a bit.

[@bennettstokes195]

@@chiptuna8292 it's treason then!

[@SentientPotatoXIII]

Sakurai did a good job making Sora's moves faithful to the original games.

[@LunaDachi]

What you talk on in 1:36 is to prevent Bayo’s smash 4 fair strings, a change that her fair got in the transition to Ult as well. It’s not an ultimate issue, and very much an intentional design choice

[@ShylyRiley]

I picked him up because I couldn’t decide on a main but sora had a lot of similarities to other characters I liked and I played KH1

[@fink_rat]

He's a pretty accurate representation of Kingdom Hearts. Combat is wack and there's insane things you can pull off.

[@PickleCh4n]

His side b works from the left stick, u can do it once or twice but u have to go back to neutral

[@neki_7258]

I like that he is more extensions and neutral, it feels like the character defines ultimate. You need a good oos, poking, recovery, a strong aireal and a combo one and, you also need a good zoning tool and safe on shield options

[@Netherwolf6100]

He's.... a little weird. Def not gonna be top tier that's for sure. Massive double jump but disjointed attacks and is super lightweight. Its like....slightly heavier than Kirby or Jigglypuff and is medium-slow speed on the ground. Designed to be an air-fighter since he's got massive hang time but a good strong smash attack at 60% or more can kill him no problem. He's not great, but not bad either. He's somewhere in the middle. At least that's my opinion

[@thesaxiest4480]

The issue with foward air you described is not ultimates inputs. The way combo moves like that work and jabs too is that they actually have very long animations, but you can cancel the animation with the next hit of the combo. If the move didn't work like that, then nothing would come out at all and you would still lose the situation.

[@nachot6592]

MkLeo is killing it with a character I find amazingly slow and clunky....he carries the characters.

[@yinepuiwhite3955]

I took to Sora like a glove personally- being a Zelda main, I'm already used to very floaty, lightweight characters that love the air and get away with living way too long off stage. Felt like a natural extension, and I love him.

[@aleksandarilic2520]

Sora is the best person in the world. NOT S T U P I D.

[@connergoldsborough4093]

You CAN cancel side b by letting go of the stick and button

[@zelion_10]

I like sora, but he's way to slow for some odd reason. Like I play Byleth and I can move much faster with him then Sora but none the less I will force myself to get good with him.

[@rangopistacho6928]

sora's air moves can catch even smaller opponents, his down air can be used as a kill move when really high near the ceeling (im not kidding his down air is actually really powerful). his down smash if positioned right can shield break. his f smash has good launch strength, his floatyness makes him incredibly good at maneuvering in the air. he can spam his air moves and it becomes extremely difficult to approach. his neutrals are really good: his fire can apply decent pressure and can stagger attacks, lightning is really useful for launching and anti air from the front, his freeze just gives him a chance to get bonus damage in, his side b comes out really fast and deals 21 damage, his up b is a great kill move and his down b just disables you

[@darkhaven9119]

I also wish you could control what spell he used manually instead of it cycling through them automatically in a row. There’s been plenty of times where I could of killed someone after knocking them off the stage with lighting but I had Blizzaga up next. By the time I use that and then fira they’re back on stage and it’s too late to use thunder. I want to be able to use a spell and still have it selected. What if I don’t want to switch to blizzaga? Let us manually select which spell he uses.

[@ChimerFox]

Late, but yeah. The sound effects are KH sound design. When you block/parry in the KH games it doesn't sound like the Dark souls parry, it sounds like a "sparkly" sound effect is the best way I can explain.

[@sharpse8268]

Part of the reason why I think Sora's down air is inconsistent (besides the spinning) is because it's a swinging move while traveling into the swing. As he moves downward, the swing hitbox sort gets "squished" because the very next frame he's closer to where the tip of the swing was. Since the main area you're worried about when using such a move is directly below you it doesn't work well. Also you don't have a choice, you have to move straight down with the move. It's actually better from behind because he's swinging it downward from behind him at the cost of making it worse in front and below him (effectively dragging the hitbox down with him). This can be beneficial when you have more control over you're air movement such as fast falling with the beginning of Ike nair. The point (as you probably already know) is to drag the hitbox in front of him so the initial part of the swing becomes a kill confirming wall. If you drift away it makes the danger zone larger in font of you at the cost of making the swing behind you smaller which ultimately doesn't matter because your opponent is in front of you and you're probably landing before that part of the move even comes out. Drifting in while doing marcina bair vs drifting away is the most visible one to me. Double jumping immediately before for better airspeed makes it more noticeable. I guess it's just part of the nature of spacing but it's most recognizable with swinging hitboxes where most of the swing is in the main 2D plane. I like Sora a lot honestly. He's has quite a few similarities to Falco of all characters (besides being extremely floaty of course) so he checks most of the boxes in my enjoyment catalog.

[@ShadyHitchhiker]

So wait, do all the other characters have sound design that correlates to their moves power? If so, does a moves sound design change if it is buffed or nerfed?

[@ryanduty4237]

The reason people are falling out of up b is because they are using sdi due to multi hits on some aerial options. Was getting out of Sora up b on wolf.

[@seansean792]

As someone who hates how Floatys feel, Sora is probably the most fun character I have ever played. Usually by now I know what I'm doing but Sora is Sora and we all know how Sora still feels. Min Min took me 3 days to learn and one break to forget. I'm not sure about Sora, but I certainly hope it's not like that. Quickplay has given me enough pain that I'm at the point where the way I get used to characters is training mode, arena with friends, the spirit modes, and fighting cpu's.

[@treddox5880]

Same. I don’t ever do Quickplay, I almost always play against CPU’s. Is it giving me bad habits? Probably, but I’m not trying to get better at the game. I’m just trying to have fun.

[@seansean792]

@@treddox5880 my thing Is is that I don't like 1 v 1ing a level 9 cpu. So I usually end up going for making a whole boss fight or squad strike. I genuinely enjoy Squad Strike and Smash Down, wish it was easier to get friends to play with.

[@chiptuna8292]

If you think Sora is a fun floaty then you should try Mewtwo. They handle identically, but Mewtwo is a little faster moving.

[@seansean792]

@@chiptuna8292 no I fucking hate Mewtwo

[@TheLastSliceOfPie]

The sound design not matching the actual power of his moves (basically saying that they don't feel weighty) is pretty much how he feels in his home series. It sounds like they used the bumper item sounds for all of his keyblade moves lol.

[@spencermcbride3881]

His down smash is one of the best in the game. He not only jumps, he's legit fully invincible for like half of the move, and is really hard to punish since the hitbox is so big, does so much shield damage, and knocks you so far back. You shield it, try to punish, and then he just does it again

[@danielw.2456]

Don't forget that Sora d-smash is actually a solid shield break move too. (Bc almost every dlc character needs at least one solid shield breaker option nowadays, lol)

[@thatkingdomheartsguy9615]

That Downsmash is also a good shieldbreaker :)

[@HappehMasterChannel]

his disadvantage is nuts, that side b can take him anywhere, so much mixup potential

[@thomasr.6669]

There’s actually a way to cancel the Side-B even after just using the first dash. I just spam any button other than my special and it works.

[@megaman7424]

Personally to me, Sora is fun but very underwhelming. I know characters don't need to be crazy or gimmicky. A nice and simple character is fine. He's overall fun and feels good to play but he's very underwhelming for me cause to me, he doesn't feel very satisfying to play. To me, it feels like he lacks something that can truly seperate him from the rest of the cast. It feels like he's lacking creativity in his moveset that most of the cast has gotten to make them unique as stand alone characters. His movement is fun to mess with and trying new flowcharts and mixing up combo routes is fun. His Up Special into Side Special is gun to mess with too. His neutral special feels very basic to me but it's just as much fun to mess with since it's pretty spammable. His button feels fun to land especially when you mix up aireals between each other. Overall he feels like I'm playing Kingdom Hearts but without the wacky creativity. Overall fun but underwhelming. 3/5

[@Adam-jj9ql]

dude, what microphone do you use lmao. you sound smooth as butter. if anyone knows please let me know lol

[@someepicnerd7821]

Honestly the thing with chaining the up b and side b I just can’t figure out. Like sometimes it lets me use the side b after and sometimes it doesn’t and I have no idea why. Sora seems really cool and I do like mashing buttons but I’m not too sure if it will be my thing yet

[@MockRockTalk]

You need to do the side B very quickly after up B, almost immediately (better just to hold the side B input when you're nearing the end up up B's animation).

[@sheebuhenu4074]

You can swap the second or first hit with his air combo with either nair or fair.

[@priceeverett9102]

Great video man!

[@blackosprey2219]

"Stupid in a really interesting way" is probably the best way to describe sora and kh in general lol

[@andyblargextra]

my brother said the same thing about sound design yesterday. They don't sound or feel like they have much impact despite the opponent flying away.

[@thebasicgamer4716]

Sora feels like if sheik was floatier than Mewtwo.

[@JohnzaloogIII]

“Floaty Lucina”, I’d say he’s closer to Yoshi with a sword, ridiculous recovery and a counter.

[@bruhnfamily7]

You can cancel the Sora side-B. Press side-B, and then dont aim the left stick at anything and itll do one dash. Complete the first dash and start a second dash and dont aim for a third and you'll stop dashing on the 2nd side-B dash.

[@SuperDarwinFAN]

Sora seems kinda good, but I still hate his design I hate how defensive he is, he's nothing like his games and it just disappoints me

[@PeppySweetheart]

I like these generally positive videos! It's nice

[@safeqenquizitivart542]

Turns out if you fastfall at any point during the aerial 3 hit variants he can cancel it on 1st hit, 2nd hit and as well as the 3rd hit!

[@DeronHargrove]

He's absurdly fun to me. I think he's solid and unique. Also, as for top player differing on tier lists, I feel like that's more prominent in Ultimate due to the characters and matchups.

[@TheDefiantPirate]

So let me ask If someone is going to be coming in fresh to ultimate(But not Smash as a franchise) Would he A. Be a good starting character and B. be easier to actually learn and master than if say someone who has been playing ultimate since day 1 of the game?

[@matthewgonzaga2778]

I believe that people fall out of the 3-hit aerial combos mainly because you have to drift forward for all the hits to connect

[@ColorWheelHero]

I feel Sora is very fun and is a great last character. I had the same issue of thinking his moves are weakish cuz of the sounds, but after a bit, it wasn't that bad. Sora's alts look good (especially the cartoony one), his sound effects are really good, he's pretty smooth to play as, his stage is really pretty to look at. Sakurai and the Smash team did an AMAZING job with Sora. Many thanks to them!

[@thecatastrophe132]

3:20 Side B can be cancelled if you’re both not holding B and not holding anything on the stick

[@kestrel7493]

His kill power is what's crazy to me, good soras seem to always get kills under 100 with his smashes, up b or thundaga. He kind of seems like a glass canon in how his disadvantage can be taken advantage of

[@elite9237]

If, as Sora, you hold back without b-reversing your up-b, the opponent will always fall out after the first hit unless they are holding in

[@darkdoctor1915]

He is so fun to play as

[@barbarianbijuu]

Sora's downsmash also has pretty good shield damage lol

[@jasbitmaster]

The biggest issues I’ve had with Sora are not being able to do other aerials instead of the the combo follow-ups (which stinks because his aerial combos have great potential) and not being able to act out of side B. I think that you should be able to act out of it if you cancel it before the third hit, but I guess Nintendo didn’t want another Bayonetta situation. Also Sora’s up air combined with his floatiness gets him so crazy early kills which is a lot of fun.

[@AnthanKrufix]

Sora's hitboxes are so ridiculously.... *_exactly_* what the graphic shows with no leniency. If people are standing in between the thunderbolts they walk straight past them unscathed... If people fall through his Up-B or jump upwards through his D-air and the keyblade is not literally ontop of them as they do so they'll pass through the attack unscathed... It feels like he has Pit hitboxes, a very far cry from Pythra's "close enough, that counts" hitboxes. Something I have noticed however is that Sora has some very huge hitstun modifiers... not quite as much as Pythra's but similar.