Mod Organizer 2 | Profiles & Apps | 3 of 5

[@gamerpoets]

*Mod Organizer 2 | Profiles & Apps | 3 of 5* Please consider helping others in the comments. We all start somewhere. ****Time Saving Info & Notes**** TUTORIAL NAVIGATION ------------------------------ 0:00 *Profiles* 0:12 What do Profiles Affect? 0:22 What Profiles DO NOT Affect 0:42 Profile Window 2:45 *ini Files* 3:42 Default .ini Editor 4:06 *Third Party Apps* 4:16 Modify Executables Window 6:26 Launching Apps 6:40 Adding Apps that are Packed with mods 7:23 Overwrite 8:04 *Hall of Heroes* NOTES ------------------------------

[@danielmathis930]

Hey bro, just wanted to let you know I love your videos. Also I thought I saw a video once that goes over the Overwite. I can't seem to find it. can you point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance.

[@pappysshoes6563]

I know this is late but i am a senior who has worked heavy labor all my life and am baffled at most software/IT stuff, let me say that you have made my life a ton easier where MO2/Skyrim is concerned, thank you so much, you are concise and most easy to understand, very professional. Again many thanks Michael

[@gamerpoets]

Appreciate you Pappy:) glad to have helped

[@hmonger95]

Professional work as always. I wouldn't be using MO if it weren't for your videos!

[@gamerpoets]

Thanks hmonger = ) Glad they've helped you get some use out of it. -Michael

[@TheMeragun]

Same here, thank you!!

[@LilyMagick]

Same here!

[@outdatedTV]

Great video for an overall understanding of MO2. Thank you for the continued delivery of those!

[@gamerpoets]

Thanks man = ) -Michael

[@wirelessbaguette8997]

Since I typically just like to have one character at a time, profiles are mainly useful to have a fully vanilla profile for testing purposes. With that in mind, I didn't expect to learn too much new here. However, that tidbit about using a third party application for your ini editor was news to me, and super useful! I'm also glad for the clarification on how the overwrite folder works. It definitely seems different from MO1, but I think this approach is actually cleaner.

[@gamerpoets]

Glad the video helped a bit = ) Yeah, it works different for sure. It is actually nicer than how MO1 did things but once you get use to something it becomes rough attempting to adapt. Once you do it's a pretty nice change. -Michael

[@adamyooz]

It's stupid how well edited and detailed these vids are, holy fuck. Thanks for the help.

[@gamerpoets]

Glad it helped :) -Michael

[@rdy4life]

Thanks Michael. I've been modding for years and still learn something new watching your videos.

[@gamerpoets]

Happy to hear that = ) I learn a lot myself when making these videos with the developers. -Michael

[@Thatniceguy81]

i just spent a day and a half trying to figure out why fallout 4 kept launching in a small window and was about to pull my hair out when i found out mod managers have ini options too thanks so much for that i was able to fix my issue

[@jedsanford7879]

I love Gopher, and he is great when you really need to know the whole deal, but your video was a lot faster!

[@gamerpoets]

Thanks Jed = ) There is nothing that this series leaves out regarding MO2. Its just presented in a different form. Always happy to answer questions that I come across. -Michael

[@jedsanford7879]

You are my go-to when I just need to know how to do something real quick. Gopher is great when I want to know how it works, why it works, and all the ways to do it. I am just switching from NMM right now, and loving MO a lot more, but there are things I dont know how to do yet. I am trying to learn custom over-writes right now. I understand how they are given priority, its kind of like having a second load order for overwrites, but I understand you can selectively over write beyond that.

[@gamerpoets]

I mention that in part 2 I believe. In many cases its not worth it. I think if you go that route the best (imo) way to do it is to make the left pane mod folder of the mod you are creating the custom overwrite directory the actual output.... since mods are updated in the mod folders themselves via apps run through mo2... it would make sense to have the new files added to that same place as well. Though, i like to not do that because I want to see the new files and the only way I can be certain of what is 100% new is by letting them manifest in the overwrite folder and then drag and drop them where i want them. -Michael

[@jedsanford7879]

Good point- It seems unnecessary 99% of the time anyway, to want certain things to overwrite from one mod, and other things from another mod- Its super nice not having to play the memory game with NMM anymore tho, thats for sure. Kinda speaks to what you say here, keep it all shown.

[@annmester2740]

Thank you so much for the clear explanation of the program and how it works.

[@gamerpoets]

Happy you liked the video Ann = ) -Michael

[@Runeify00]

I think I've watched your Tut-Tues Vids so many times over, I could have put one of your super cute Doggos threw obedience school by now.

[@falloutstarcraft2]

Amazing!! You're the best for these guides!

[@gamerpoets]

Thanks Fallout = ) -Michael

[@somethingwicked3]

Michael, I am having the hardest time getting DynDOLOD to work in MO, it keeps pathing to my oldrim and gives me errors. I will edit this comment with more specifics when I get off work in regards to installation location and all that, I'm pretty sure I made a tools folder in my main Skyrim folder with LOOT, Wrye Bash, and others . . . I don't have much time right now but I will edit with more info in a couple hours. Having said that, like mentioned below, you all at Gamer Poets have been the single motivation to use MO and take my game to the level it's at now. Thank you so much for the hard work and dedication to the program! Edit: I think 7:10 just answered my question . . . I'll try it out when I get home, I had an issue with Wrye Bash at first too and I think that's what I did to solve it.

[@gamerpoets]

Appreciate your comment David = ) I haven't tried it with MO2. With MO1 it "should" work how my DynDOLOD video showed. I don't think Sheson changed much of anything to make the process different. If you are using MO1 make sure to deactivate the handle bsa checkbox when generating the files and reactivate it when done. I'm personally waiting to use DynDOLOD and SE/MO2 until I get the word from Sheson to make a new video on it (and to try it for myself). The original video took more than 200 hours to make and I don't want to put that time in until I know I should lol = ) -Michael

[@somethingwicked3]

GamerPoets thanks for the quick response, I still can't figure it out. The SE Beta link is out on the original nexus mod page that directs to a reddit page with the download. The problem I'm having is the executable default paths to oldrim and I've scoured the comments and every other shred I could find in my spare time. No worries, I'm already working the shit out of my rig with what I've got going anyway. Many thanks again for all you do for the community.

[@TheBranchez]

Hey buddy, nice video yet again. A simple advise if I may. At 3:20 (just for an example) you have written a text in black on the both sides of the ini files window. You might want to change the font and the size of the letters to a more clear/visible one. Hope you understand what I mean. Not an issue, just a recommendation for improvement of your already excellent videos.

[@gamerpoets]

Yeah I get that = ) You'll see in recent videos its actually a yellow with an outline (same as the font for the numbers on the 5 MODS videos) -Michael

[@TheBranchez]

@@gamerpoets ohh great then. I haven't seen all of them yet, but decided to comment lest I forget haha.

[@lucianolopez6534]

Best tutorial videos on the whole web.

[@inyourveins]

I couldn't really find the answer to figuring out how to use different bodyslide presets and skin textures to different profiles for Fallout 4. Would it work just by creating a separate profile or would I need to create a new instance, so that my settings don't override my default save game? Great video btw!

[@gamerpoets]

When you have separate profiles (yes, this is what you want) all the mods will still show up from each one. The difference is that you can activate/deactivate those mods differently. New profile is fine. Glad you liked it = )

[@ExistentialGojora]

Hi Mike. I'm convinced. I'm making the switch to MO2. So far I've followed your video on; 1. Cleaning out old Fallout 4 folders, 2. Uninstalling and reinstalling Fallout 4, 3. Installing BethINI. Now I'm up to this video on MO2. Here's my question about MO2 profiles: Before I can change profiles in MO2, I have to close MO2, open BethINI then change profile there first, then reopen and select the corresponding profile in MO2? Is that how to do it right?

[@DragonKastle]

Thank you for this awesome work. Had to give up on vortex.

[@gamerpoets]

Welcome:)

[@somerandomguy3920]

Quality work Michael, thank you! :D

[@gamerpoets]

Thank you Random = ) -Michael

[@bloodangel13]

Yes! With this tool Ragnar and Lagertha shall live again.

[@gamerpoets]

lol

[@Leto85]

When I try to open LOOT I get the error: Unknown option 'single-proces'. How can I fix this?

[@phoenixarising9809]

If I create a new profile will the scripted mods like CGO and ABR still carry over? As in do I need to manually remove the Nemesis patch files in the Overwrite section or will it not be necessary? PS: I'm pretty new to modding Skyrim at the least, so things like scripted mods potentially carrying over to the new profile and causing conflicts with a similar framework is something that I'm a bit concerned about cause I plan to create a new profile with SkySA installed, whilst on the Default one rn I've got CGO and ABR.

[@Vilehawk]

Great vid with great info! Thanks GP!

[@gamerpoets]

Glad you liked it = ) -Michael

[@phonixasz]

as far as I can tell, and I've poked at this a couple of weeks, LOOT will not launch from MO2 via the Run menu. It 'fails to spawn', it has been reported as a bug to github and been ignored. But the Sort button under Plugins seems to work fine.

[@gateway_12a]

Thanks, often wondered about ini settings when changing profiles.

[@gamerpoets]

Welcome = ) -Michael

[@reefcastella1860]

Bruhh your the David Attenborough for Mo2 really appreciate the indepth video

[@vladimirlomakin9563]

Thank you for very useful guide.

[@wonderlustrpg]

thank you thank you thank you for this!!

[@natebush8217]

Thanks for the help, pal! :D

[@gamerpoets]

welcome = )

[@niceboobs3856]

Hello. How to create a different patches for the different profiles? For example, I want to create two FNIS patches for two different profiles and to play with different animations in the different profiles

[@gamerpoets]

Create one on one profile. Pack it and give it a name. Create a different one on the second profile. Pack it and give it a different name.

[@CLoseDSpAceFiRe]

Can anyone in the comments help? I'm trying to switch things from NMM to MO2 but I can't seem to get loot and xEdit to work with MO2. When I open both apps through mo2 they both show the two games I had modded with NMM, Skyrim & FO4, and wont show the game I'm currently trying to mod and play, Skyrim SE. How do I properly uninstall NMM and switch over to MO2? And/or, how do I port my mod list from NMM over MO2? Ps: I started with NMM over a year ago and recently upgraded my PC specs and want to try adding more mods. I previously only used a few with NMM and I'm hoping to use MO2 to increase my mod count by about 100.

[@michaelbracken2597]

I am trying to mod Fallout 4, and I am very lost. Is there a service to just help me get things setup correctly?

[@zyeager83]

Although MO2 with Fallout 4 does not appear to use the local save game features at all.

[@gamerpoets]

I'd check with the Devs on their Discord to see why this is. -Michael

[@zyeager83]

I've seen this discussed on Tannins old site, I don't think he keeps up with it anymore as I have yet to see a fix.

[@TheMeragun]

NVM, I guess I spoke too soon and my textures are not loading in to the game when using MO2 to install. I'm lost on what to do now.

[@RainbowGangsta88]

Does this make it possible to have a different body model for each character playthrough simultaneously?

[@gamerpoets]

You can have different mods activated for different profiles.

[@NekodaArvin]

Thanks for the tidbits, I have a (dumb) question. Can I use the 64 version of skyproc patchers if I'm running Oldrim?

[@gamerpoets]

Well I'm left "dumb"founded by your question because I don't know the answer lol... I would assume yes but I haven't had the opportunity to test them so I can't say for certain. -Michael

[@reddeadsniper1263]

Will still be fine following your 3-5 mod organizer 2 steps even though they're not updated yet? Thanks

[@gamerpoets]

Yes :)

[@taylorblack1]

I get the error message "did not create file path" when I try to copy a profile

[@Normacly]

Well.....looks like I going to have to use manual installation to play a modded Skyrim. I wasted half a day following your instructions, installing the mods, etc. and all seem okay in MO2 with plug-ins. However, I launched SKSE through MO2, select start a New Game and I ended up in the starting scene despite having Alternative Start. I thought it might just be something wrong with AS, so I kept playing and turns out none of my mods run through MO2 is working. Only mods that are working are SKSE (confirm in CC) and simple graphic mods that I manually install myself. Again, waste half a day uninstalling Skyrim and MO2 multiple times and still nothing works despite following every instruction. I hate to say it, but hate the direction MO2 and modding tools in general are going aka more and more sophisticated.

[@gamerpoets]

If you look at modding as "wasting" time and not as "learning" because you take your time and test everything as you go.... you will keep running into problems whether you use a manager or not. MO2 is almost identical to how MO1 worked. There's nothing extra sophisticated about it than there has been for the last 6 years. You said SKSE is running confirmed by Creation Club? Did you install nothing but the game and MO and then launch the game to see if that worked before installing mods? If you didn't simply test out launching the game through MO you didn't follow every instruction. You went ahead and added mods and after adding mods you then tested things out where the issue could lie within CC or in how SKSE was installed or whatever else. EDIT: What would make you uninstall the game? If you install the game and launch it.. see that it's working and leave the game folder alone you would never have to uninstall it. Installing a mod manager or anything else would have nothing to do with the game working or not working (and if the game works there's no reason to uninstall it). Honestly, the more I re-read your comment the more it sounds like you get frustrated then jump to conclusions, get confused, not follow every instruction (testing things before modding is part of the instructions) and due to that frustration start scrapping stuff, which used up a lot of time. Do things in a process and don't stress out about them. Shit happens. It's going to happen over and over... install the game... it works/launches? good. done. Stop doing manual modding and using a mod manager together so you don't have to worry about "maybe i installed something to the game folder that i shouldn't have?". If you decide to do things manually you should be at a point/confidence level to where you never need to watch anyone's tutorial, ever, for anything because you can troubleshoot all the way through issues on your own. So.. game works? good. Install the manager. Can you launch the game from the manager? yes? good. So mo2 was installed correctly. If it doesn't launch the game then somethings wrong. Once the game launches from MO install a mod. A simple texture mod (not manually) in mo and see if it shows up in game. You should not be talking about SKSE or CC or Alternate Start or any of that stuff if you followed the videos and are concerned about MO2 working (again, mo2 should be working before installing mods). Once MO2 works... and then that single texture mod works... now you know everything was done correctly and mods are in fact working or not... issues lie elsewhere at that point. Now, if MO isn't working/loading mods....Were you file paths set up correctly? Did you move the paths from appdata as suggested? Did you not install MO to the game folder as said. Do you have antivirus blocking it? ... something else? Don't have a rant in the comments.. ask a question and get help. Go to my discord. Go to the MO2 discord to get help (which is also mentioned in the videos). -Michael

[@Normacly]

Alright, I found out the problem, MO2 doesn't seem to work with the original 32bit Skyrim which I was trying to mod, I even check all the ini/plug-in text/ etc and all of its prefect but MO2 just doesn't seem to work with it. However, I decided to test it on Skyrim SE and the MO2 worked perfectly. Noted, I didn't download SE because I lost interest in Elder Scroll and switched to Witcher 3 and Original Sin 2. Sorry if I ranted.

[@gamerpoets]

Not a problem man = ) All I'm saying is... come get some help. I know that modding can get annoying. Maybe in turn you'll help me or some others out with what you find = ) -Michael

[@bloodmercenary6842]

I downloaded a lot of mods like looks menu but I don't see them in the game can anyone help me

[@wisejimster9610]

any info on how to get Merge Plugins to work in MO2 for Fallout 4? I get constant access violations no matter where Merge Plugins is installed e.g game folder, same harddrive e.t.c and there seems to be a problem extracting BSA2 files (is there no other way but to manually extract all my BSA2 mod files and merge them after?) - whereas if I run Merge Plugins in MO2 for Skyrim SE it works perfectly?! Any help would be appreciated :(

[@gamerpoets]

That's strange. Ask in our discord of the mo2 devs. If there is an issue one way or another (or not) doesn't hurt to bring it up. -Michael

[@debieblue]

"Automatic Archive Invalidation" is not functional.

[@gamerpoets]

You tested it on TES4 through FO4? -Michael

[@gamerpoets]

or do you mean the game you tried it on.. .it doesn't work?... which game? (64bit games shouldn't need it at all so it won't work there... it recent releases I think it's grayed out). -Michael

[@notoffensivenpc8400]

It keeps shwoing me for any app i install, even for the normal game launcher "parameter not met [87]" ANSWER!!! The path was too long. if you have the same problem, put mo2 in a folder that is as close to evrything else as possible.

[@gamerpoets]

Very strange. Haven't heard of it myself. You can always check with the MO2 people. I just chat with them all, write tutorials up and do my best to learn what I can. Their Discord link is in the video description if you feel like checking them out. -Michael

[@notoffensivenpc8400]

ok thank you

[@Zarcaster]

Any idea how to make SkyProcPatcher work on MO2?

[@gamerpoets]

Haven't heard of any issues with SkyProc not working with MO2. I'd check with the MO2 devs in their discord, give them situation that's giving you issues and see if they know. -Michael

[@debieblue]

For which game are you trying to patch? I believe the Percus Max patcher (.jar) is at the moment 'boged' and has been for some time. I gave up and went to Ordinator. The "fix" time for PerMa according to Nexus page is 2019...if then. Can't use Skyre with SSE or Legendary. It uses only USKP. So it is Ordinator and Skrim Skill Uncapper for the win with a mess of mods to make it 'interesting'. Otherwise Ordinator will put you to sleep. Someone needs to fix/port Skyre to SSE for the next gen.

[@gamerpoets]

Yes, I'm a bigger fan of SkyRe than I am of PerMa... old "ways" maybe. Would be cool to see it brought forward. -Michael

[@clementraka8867]

So, this profile mod only works for Skyrim?

[@speedbolt2190]

No

[@fcbayernowp]

Thx for #3

[@gamerpoets]

=)

[@slywolfe]

No matter what I do I can't get FNIS to work within MO2 I'm losing my mind over here Think I'm going to have to manually place all my mods and FNIS into Data folder which is an enormous pain and defeats the whole purpose of MO FML T_T

[@taricalaelen9728]

Have you copied the FNIS.ini0 file that is in the mod folder (once installed) into skyrim/data/ folder with the () removed and the RedirectFiles var inside uncomment with the corect path?

[@NuggetEternal]

Hey Michael, thanks for the helpful MO2 videos! Does Wrye Bash work for MO2? Because every time I try to launch it through MO2, I'm greeted with this: prntscr.com/jfx955

[@NuggetEternal]

Nevermind! Installing the latest version of Wrye Bash released yesterday fixed the problem! But for whatever reason, mo2 kept wanting to override my file path to the skyrim wrye bash folder, not the sse one, so I deleted mopy from the skyrim folder so that mo2 would only look at the wrye bash for sse so it would see my sse mods!