MODEL 3 Y ENHANCED AUTOPILOT VS BASIC VS FULL SELF DRIVING AUSTRALIA

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[@jonbowly]

Thanks Tom for the comprehensive and candid review of each feature.

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[@toshynews5561]

Just bought EAP base on this video. Thank you. Great video and info.

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Wow! 😀

[@fiyahflash]

Decided to purchase enhanced autopilot today; my ability to use any autopilot feature locally is limited to a 10km stretch of motorway and even then autopilot will cancel on a slight bend. However I wanted to play with the new toys and this gives me an opportunity to do so .. and makes the purchase of FSD 'cheaper' down the line (until the price increases). Need to learn how to auto lane change though as the message to apply slight pressure to turn keeps on cancelling autopilot for me.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Congrats! Once you get the hang of auto lane change, it's quite handy to have

[@teslascozzies5537]

Thanks so much for the full runthrough here Tom and for your kindness in replying to our email. Everything is so much clearer now, really appreciate it!

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My pleasure!

[@fredturk6447]

Unfortunately I would rate Tesla Autopilot much lower. It seems to me that even in March 2023 the autopilot has basic deficiencies. OK it works reasonably well on freeways and I entirely agree with the lane change comment. Dropping out of Autopilot to change lanes is painful. It would be nice if when you put the indicator on it let you change lanes, did not cancel cruise control and automatically put lane keeping back on once established in the new lane. Failings on highways and lesser roads: Does not always drive smoothly. Does not take the right line through corners. Erratic, sometimes slowing down for corners and other times slowing down after the corner. Does not cope with roundabouts. It recognises speed limits mostly OK but then fails to slow down/speed up sometimes even though it displays the limit correctly. There are various options about the cruise speed and I have it set to follow the speed limit. However when it has failed I have used the right scroll wheel to adjust the max speed. Maybe this confuses it from then on? Absolutely dangerous behaviour slowing very quickly if a pedestrian crosses its path way ahead. You can see that the pedestrian has plenty of time to get out of the way and it should not be too hard for the car to figure that out rather than doing excessive braking potentially causing the car behind to rear end you. Even if you are quick to compensate by hitting the accelerator the car is unbalanced, you as the driver are unbalanced. Not helpful. These are fundamental failings and despite all the hype about FSD how can you even claim to be anywhere near FSD when you can’t even get basic Autopilot functionality right. My wife feels unsafe letting the autopilot drive on the freeway and on the highway says the experience is not smooth or safe feeling. The software version was updated around March 4 2023 for a late 2022 Model 3. I really have to doubt the ability of Tesla to produce a safe and reliable Autopilot anytime soon or perhaps anytime!

[@SphereNZ]

Thanks

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[@thesamuelnam]

So excited!!!!! Wonder if editing and changing wheels will delay order.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Stay tuned, I’ll have some info soon 👍

[@TheNewAccount2008]

Great review, I couldn't agree more on most points. (And I am in Europe, so my experience might be different in some areas.) For me, Auto Lane Change is the big one that makes EAP a no-brainer, just like you said. Auto Park was the second one, but it has degraded A LOT since I took delivery of my Model S about two years ago, so right now I wouldn't consider it worth it. And FSD so far is nothing but a dream. (Disclaimer: I do have FSD myself, because I do actually believe in this dream. But right now it has no real value.)

[@LudicrousFeed]

Great points Rick! Auto Lane Change is super handy on the open road when passing slower vehicles 🚗

[@taebinof1tym]

Summon might be the answer to squeeze a model y into my garage for overnight charging. How has your experience been with it?

[@LudicrousFeed]

I don’t use it often but I’ve heard from others with tight parking spaces that it’s useful

[@wanderingambience799]

Nice video, thanks for this! I am considering buying the model Y with enhanced package. I love the idea of the car parking itself, big sales plus for the wife.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Pleasure! You will love the Y

[@ajm854]

Great explanation Thanks

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[@mpgcamo]

Definitely keen. I might get it for both 3 and Y

[@LudicrousFeed]

Nice!

[@pkerry12]

Thank u for this, i am ordering a tesla model 3 with just basic autopilot

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Nice!

[@wongcw08]

I gotta say that this is an excellent and honest review expecially for left hand drive markets. Btw, is it already legal in Australia?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yes all options are currently legal and available in Australia

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

Man I hope fsd beta gets released in Australia soon.

[@oldad73]

Thanks Tom, this was a really useful summary. Two points: wrt 'phantom breaking' with Basic Autopilot - the times I find it most annoying/dangerous is on rural highway driving when there is an intersection and a vehicle is crossing across in front of you. As the driver you can tell that there is plenty of time and don't need to slow down but the car brakes heavily. Even with Basic Autopilot the display will show traffic lights but I've noticed that it rarely picks up filter arrows correctly - what's your experience using FSD?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Thanks David! Yes the car is very sensitive to other cars and obstacles in its lane and will slow down very early. With regards to FSD package, it’s much the same as Basic with visualisations

[@Keep-HODL]

which model 3 or Y ? thanks

[@LudicrousFeed]

@@Keep-HODL Our experience so far has been with the 3 only

[@AG-jq9jz]

I totally agree with David on the Basic Autopilot phantom breaking. I've had a new model Y in Perth West Australia for a few weeks and after taking the car down south over Christmas I had the car brake aggressively 3 times from 110km/hr to approx 60km/hr because my Basic Autopilot picked up a car was crossing in front of me, although there was no chance of hitting the turning vehicle. It was so bad I have stopped using the autopilot as it's just a matter of time before someone rear ends me. Also, the MY replaced a 7yr old Audi Q7 which had auto park as standard and would nail the parking space first time, every time. Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying the Tesla but I feel the Autopilot function (or "cruise control" in the old world) is dangerously bad.

[@oldad73]

@@AG-jq9jz you do get used to it. I'm very comfortable using Autopilot on major roads. You can (sort of) over-ride the phantom braking for crossing traffic by pressing on the accelerator slightly. I'm about to go on an out of town trip and will be trying out the Enhanced Autopilot that we've been given as a trial.

[@kas2k4]

My main reason for not upgrading to FSD and other charged software upgrade features such as the acceleration boost for my 2022 LR M3 is that the software upgrades don't carry over if you sell and upgrade your Tesla car in the future. Not sure why Tesla doesn't enable this since the software upgrades are already tied to your Tesla account so technically shouldn't be a hard thing to do. Personally I like to upgrade my car every 3-5 years so blowing $10K on FSD and another $2K on the acceleration boost doesn't make much financial sense if it means I will lose those upgrades when I upgrade my car to a 2025 Model 3 in a few years time

[@LudicrousFeed]

That’s a fair point and a reason why one may opt out of software upgrades. I need to find out whether FSD+ helps to increase resale value and if so by how much 🤔

[@MrUthatube]

Or even if the features remain with the car, at least you could recoup the expense that way.

[@lindsaybrown7639]

AT 1:22 you mention that the car will adjust to speed limits when speed signs changes on Autosteer, which I can see is active on the screen by the 2 blue lines. This is not the case with Basic Autopilot. The car will continue driving at the speed set and the Screen will show new speed limit, but does NOT adjust the cars speed. If the limit is below the set speed you are travelling you will get Warnings if set, warning alarm that you are over the speed limit. You have to pull the right control stick down for about 2 seconds for it to adjust. This is very frustrating on freeways where speed goes from 110, down to 100, then down to 80, then up to 100, Also when on Highways travelling at 110 then a section is set to 100 you get an alarm and have to manual adjust. At the next speed sign back to 110 you have to adjust up as you will continue at 100 unless you adjust up again. Will EAP adjust the actual speed according to the speed signs???

[@LudicrousFeed]

Thanks Lindsay I should clarify. I did say ‘sometimes’ it adjusts to the posted speed sign in with restrictions ie. only in certain situations. I’ve found it only does so on single lane roads. As you correctly said, on multi lane roads it does not adjust at all. Since I’m paying attention (or should be!) when driving, I just pull down the right stalk when the speed limit changes on the highway And EAP/FSD Capability behaves exactly the same (Jun 2022)

[@lindsaybrown7639]

@@LudicrousFeed OK, was looking to see if EAP was better at speed sign management as being part of the FSD which should always follow speed sign changes. What have you noticed from watching the Beta Users with regard to Speed Sign changes as I have only seen them drive on streets/roads which appear to be constant speed, no speed sign changes. Keep up the good Videos and work too.

[@MrUthatube]

@@lindsaybrown7639 I had EAP for 3 months through the referral program and speed sign changes don't update on the multi-lane highway. It's not so bad moving from 80 to 100 km/h, but if you miss the 100 to 80 km/h you're potentially going to get a speeding fine. As Tom said, you need to hold the right stalk down for a few seconds to update the speed or tap the speed limit icon (the one with the red ring) on the screen. EAP has just expired for me now and I do miss some features, especially the freeway exit lane departure as some of the exits aren't very clear on the map. It's almost worth buying it for that, but given the package isn't transferrable, either to a new car or on selling, it's basically money down the drain, so you'd have to weigh the options.

[@zaferroni]

Hi Tom , sadly here in uk most of all the features with my FSD have now been banned to list a few, no more auto lane change ,auto park has never worked, smart summon only if you are with in 2 meter of your car which is pointless . been a total waste of money. eu and un regulation has blocked most of all the features .

[@LudicrousFeed]

That is very unfortunate 😢

[@realbutter7228]

1:35 I live near here

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[@Harryandleo]

I ordered FSD model Y for my mum to lock in the price enabling her to own a car that will develop into a full self driving service for her in a few years especially if she’s unable to drive then physically. Elon has said FSD will increase in price I believe it will reach $100,000 + and this is a bet on the improving technology

[@LudicrousFeed]

Nice 👍

[@balisingh143]

What happens to ur purchased FSD if u want to sell and buy another tesla? Can u trf it to new car in the future without paying new price?

[@Harryandleo]

@@balisingh143 no you can’t transfer FSD

[@Harryandleo]

@@balisingh143 it might be possible to use the FSD feature as a Robotaxi, keep the car and let it earn you a second income instead of selling the car

[@LloydMe]

FSD in Sydney is a bit scary. The car drives as far on the left as it can even when there are no cars coming in the opposite direction, so you seem to be just scraping the parked cars. Not the way I would drive! FSD has no understanding of roundabouts either, I am asked to take over on every roundabout.

[@Porkonfork]

Thanks Tom, great detail as always. I'll take the chance and wait for delivery before getting EAP.

[@LudicrousFeed]

🙏👍

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

Have they improved phantom braking?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Same same really

[@loving_dad_explorer]

Navigate on autopilot: every single time I have to use indicator to shift lanes… might as well be called normals auto lane change. And it takes to slow to shift on exits so I have to intervene not to miss the exit…

[@LudicrousFeed]

You can alter the NoA settings to suit your needs re: lane change sensitivity and urgency Agreed re exits, it can be hit and miss sometimes

[@vivMak23]

I believe FSD beta hasn't test arrived in Australia, right?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Not as yet

[@MrUthatube]

It is available now at $10,100 AUD. I assume if you already have EAP ($5,100) then you'd pay the difference being $5000.

[@konignickerchen7265]

Regarding the 2023 Model 3, is the EAP something I can purchase after buying the car, or do I need to pick it when ordering it?

[@LudicrousFeed]

You can purchase it afterward

[@lifeofishant]

Does Enhanced autopilot require the steering wheel to be held at regular intervals just like Autopilot?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yes

[@ebe84]

Quick question i can't find an absolute answer too. Does auto start after a full stopp require Enhanced Autopilot? Like when you are in a traffic line, the line stop and then starts again?

[@LudicrousFeed]

I’m pretty sure it does … but will have to recheck next time I’m on the road

[@BrisbaneTeslaGuy]

I have a 3 with FSD ON ORDER IMO this is only going to be the best outcome for me as this will allow tesla to really map Australia and like a cartoon snowball down a hill. I can see this is going to make FSD more accessible for me And other FSD users. I plan to keep my car for a minimum of 6 years

[@LudicrousFeed]

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[@kathyburgess9943]

Is FSD available via subscription in Australia?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Not as yet

[@binksPOW]

Hey Tom, Will auto pilot steer you around a roundabout?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Not reliably at this stage

[@BrisbaneTeslaGuy]

Like all Tesla software it’s get better over time

[@BSnydr]

If you purchase enhanced autopilot how much is it to upgrade to FSD? An additional $6000 or $12000?

[@LudicrousFeed]

I believe it’s an extra $5k

[@gadgetmeister8503]

Is it possible to buy Enhanced Autopilot after delivery?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yes and I recommend doing so in some situations to reduce the risk of paying extra luxury car tax

[@gadgetmeister8503]

Cool. Autopark is something Ms Gadget Meister likes about my current car.

[@antoniovalentinagarcia2396]

This just got pushed as a “Holiday Update” free for 30days in Australia. Now to see if it will be worth the $5k price tag.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Nice! Good present

[@MrUthatube]

Yeah, they did this Christmas period too (2023). It was right in the middle of my 3 month trial which was even better.

[@cyberblitz]

thx for that. Unfortunately, $5000 is out of my price range right now and i don't really think it's worth it either. However, if i had a spare $5000 lying around, i'd probably get it

[@LudicrousFeed]

👍

[@thefoongster]

Hi Tom, I recently ordered a Y before the price rise with basic autopilot, am I able to upgrade to enhanced autopilot after I took delivery of the vehicle or should I contact the sales rep now? I’m in Melbourne by the way.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Historically you were able to add upgrades post delivery to an order so I’m sure that should be ok - The risk is that the EAP option may be removed prior … hopefully not!

[@michaelfink64]

Hi Tom, I have had a pretty good experience with NoA and I think it has improved with recent updates. In particular, it use to not move into the start of a long exit lane that I use every day but it does now. Maybe it is worth giving it another try?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Thanks Michael, good to hear! Perhaps I shall 👍

[@sevensmurfs1]

Does anyone know whether it is possible to use the 'summon' feature to summon the car into a tight garage whilst remaining inside the car? I have a tight garage entrance that then becomes wider once you've made it inside, so would like to remain in the car if possible!

[@LudicrousFeed]

Hmm might be worth a demo …

[@sevensmurfs1]

@@LudicrousFeed would be awesome if you could!!

[@SirDragonClaw]

Are we going to have to pay the extra $3000 even though we put down the order at a lower listed price? That seems like a bit of a scam, to sell it for a certain price, only to raise it by 5% 6 days later and make everyone pay the extra, but after reading the contract it seems that is what they are doing...

[@LudicrousFeed]

Historically the lower price locked in at the time of order has been honoured

[@hildagirgis6201]

I wonder if my M3 or Y coming first My M3 is August October My MP is August November

[@LudicrousFeed]

The race is on!

[@josmith2062]

Is EA and FSD transferrable to a new car? -- ie Is this for life?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Stays with the car, not the account

[@josmith2062]

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[@stephenthompson1663]

And if the car’s in a crash, or is stolen, and gets written off, the $10K of software dies with the car. Crazy Idea!

[@TheElectricMan]

amazing news

[@LudicrousFeed]

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[@rustygates3367]

Yeah... as far as I'm concerned, the Enhanced Autopilot and FSD are just a complete waste of money.