Model S Owner Compares His New Tesla To The Kia EV6, And Likes What Kia Is Doing!

Clearly the Model S is a very different kind of EV vs the Kia EV6 which is less than half the starting price, but Kenny, the owner of a new Model S approves of Kia's efforts. What does a Tesla owner really think about DC charging a Kia? Heads up displays? CarPlay? Let's find out!
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[@allanmurphy7474]

You want the hood to have a manual release to open so you can access the 12v battery in case it needs to be jumped, because if the 12 volt battery dies you can’t start the car.Cheers

[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, Let's all give a hearty thanks to Kenny for his generous contribution.

[@mjorn19]

Kenny did a great job. He's very concise with his opinions.

[@111_23]

sct 21 except his doorhandle comment if entering from the left passenger side why would you ever feel the need to open the door with your right hand. its completely nonsensical

[@EV-olution]

I agree. His comments are very good, but as sct 21 indicated, the comment about the handles is not quite on point. The EV6 handles are not perfect, but you simply use the hand that is convenient for opening the door based on the side of the car you are on. If anything, the EV6 and Ioniq 5 handles are much easier to use than the Model 3 and Y handles that need to be manually pressed and open in the reverse direction of what is expected by traditional car drivers. Neither door handle solution, Ioniq 5/EV6 or Model 3/Y, is great but convenience is sacrificed for efficiency and I am OK with that for all 4 models. One comment that could have been made about the EV6 handles is that they feel a bit cheap as compared to Tesla's.

[@kkgolf5371]

@@EV-olution True but it is one of the few things on the Model 3 that are solid. I will still take my EV6 popout handles vs my 2021 Model 3 handles which needed two hands for most people to get in.

[@DannyAdair]

Kenny is awesome - he is a great companion for Alex

[@minienigma]

Agree with others, Kenny's comments were thoughtful and great, but door handle "issue" doesn't make sense. Anyone opening rear driver side door using the right hand at Kenny's position would be awkward regardless of door handle design -- this is also true of the model S that they are comparing the EV6 to.

[@Patrick_Ross]

Now that a year has elapsed, do you have any data to share on battery degradation on the EV6?

[@carlosgamez6230]

I love this type of video, hearing from real world EV customers to hear about everyday issues, problems, and what they love about their cars from personal experience. Great job Alex

[@IgloSmelt]

me too, I appreciate the effort they took, but I would expect a comparison of comfort, safety, range whatever but really, starting with frunk and doorhandles?

[@rymek1]

Update, ev6 is now doing battery preconditioning if you set a DC charger as a destination in sat nav

[@Caedin8]

I've been driving my EV6 for 9000 miles now, road trips from Colorado mountains to Atlantic coast and a lot of time in Texas. I disagree with the Electrify America hate, mine most of the time charges 10% to 80% in under 20 minutes on a 350kw charger. It is really very good, I bought the monthly subscription for $4/mo and I can get 200 miles of range for under $5 at a charger in many of the states that bill per minute rather than per kwh. This car is perfect for the Texas and mid-west audience as most of the dead zones are passable. I went from Amarillo to Sweetwater (250 miles) without issues, arriving with 17% battery left. Also, I don't know how Kenny was quoting 330 wh/mi for the Kia, that is 3.03 miles per kwh, which anyone who drives an EV6 knows can't be right. Mine gets 3.6 to 3.8 miles per kwh without trying to save power, flat terrain on the high way at 70+mph.

[@randallcoles350]

So Electrify America is "$0.31/kWh plus $4 monthly fee" at $5 is 16.13 KWhr of battery. This works out to 12.4 miles per KW you might revise your statement that you get 200 miles of range for $16.31. IYF at $3/gallon of gas @ 200 miles works out to 36.78 mpg. Without the $4 monthly fee at .43/KWhr drops the MPG to 26.5 mpg. 245 miles to Sweetwater with 17% left = 295 miles of range off at 77.4-kWh battery pack is 3.81 miles per KW or 262 wh/mi. This sounds about right for a non GT version. My 500 hp model Y performance gets about 333 wh/mi ,, I would think an EV6 with 164 lbs more weight which is very little vs only 320 hp would get better efficiency than a higher output model Y P.

[@Caedin8]

@@randallcoles350 you missed the part where I said I can get 200 miles for $5 in states that bill per minute rather than per kWh, like Texas. I charge at 230kw at the peak of my curve and I pay $0.24 per minute charging. That is 3.83 kWh for $0.24, or 15.97 kWh per $1. At 3.8 miles per kWh, I’m getting 60.7 miles per $1. So I’d get 212 miles per gallon equivalent at $3.5 per gallon

[@gene978]

The EV6 “hot mess” Climate/Media switching control is simple to use. Hold one or the other a few seconds and it will default back after you adjust Heat, or Media. No one hardly mentions that.

[@EV-olution]

Every review of the EV6, from someone who does not daily drive it, complains about the alternating climate and radio control panel. What they don't know is that your can leave the controls on the panel set to climate and do everything for the radio, except turn the radio off, right on the steering wheel. This includes turning it on, changing or muting volume, changing stations, changing from FM to Sirius, etc, or tuning to another channel. I need to make a dedicated video about the feature, but did mention it in one of my more recent videos.

[@markmiller3279]

There are also those four buttons at the left end of the panel that don't change, and control critical features like the defrosters. Reviewers always seem to ignore them, though they are some of the most used climate control features.

[@EV-olution]

@@markmiller3279 you are absolutely correct. I forgot about those, thanks.

[@Kiwidaedong]

Or you can leave the panel set to radio/ media, so the passenger can use it. HVAC can also be controlled from the infotainment screen.

[@KennyKo39]

@@EV-olution I ended up with it set to climate 95% of the time but if they had implemented a cleaner UI, it could have been dedicated to climate and not have to switch between two functions. While I didn't have any direct issues with it, I can see how traditional car shoppers would have a bit of difficulty transitioning or leaning about the quirks of that control panel

[@KennyKo39]

Also Tesla's interface can be confusing for new buyers as well. Especially since updates changes the interface like removing then adding back in dedicated seat heater controls and no "dedicated" button to access climate settings. You have to know to tap the temperature or slide up.

[@rinbine2713]

If I had to choose the interior space or the frunk, I will always choose the interior space. The interior space is more useful.

[@markmiller3279]

Exactly. It's far more versatile. The Kia front trunk is big enough for the bits and pieces Alex keeps there - stuff that might otherwise go under the trunk floor and be less convenient

[@amperformance7998]

One thing that is often overlooked when people criticise the small frunk on the EV6 is the car's extremely short overhangs (something only possible due to the dedicated EV platform), relative to the Tesla. There simply isn't as much physical space forward of the front axle in which to fit all the necessary hardware and a big frunk. Some reviewers and commenters use the relative frunk sizes as a proxy for good mechanical packaging, rather than a result of styling and dimensions.

[@christopherm1904]

I read a survey that showed a majority of EV owners with usable frunks did not utilize that space for much more than adapters and chargers. Most EV owners use traditional trunk and rear hatch space for their everyday storage needs. This is why most new European and Asian EV models are excluding frunks (or designing storage cavities into the remaining space under the hood).

[@jp3npt]

Hey Alex, great format and brilliant execution! That's one of the very best videos I've seen from you, and I've been watching for years. Kenny was a perfect contributor. I hope you'll make more videos using this type of format.

[@KimAbraham]

Thanks for this. I own a 2014 model S, have a cybertruck (aka delaytruck) reservation and am actively considering the EV6 because it's such a great value offering. This is very valuable info for me.

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

The EV 6 is an absolute crap car. I seriously considered it and did a test drive. Man was I disappointed. If you come from a Tesla, any Tesla you will be beyond disappointed. The car is heavy and it feels heavy. It is no fun to drive and it has nothing special to offer. It is also way underpowered. It picks up at first and then the performance drops right off.

[@PNSP]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 LOL " It is also way underpowered"🤡

[@markmiller3279]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 4.anything 0-60 is _not_ a slow car. Quite the opposite. That's performance car performance in an ordinary EV. No, it isn't competitive with the fastest Teslas, but their celebration numbers are absurd.

[@lemongavine]

Great value before the dealer “market adjustment “.

[@kkgolf5371]

@@lemongavine If you bought when I did yes I paid a small market adjustment but I made 10K trading in my 2021 M3 DMotor that was built like shtt. I will receive the 7500 tax credit that I could not get in my Tesla. The Tesla was loud and rode like a sports car. The EV6 GT Line drives like a Grand Touring car and has enough pickup to get ahead of traffic. Big deal if it does not do 0-60 in 4 flat or 1/4 in 12.5. I honestly don't care anymore.

[@joeb4294]

These are two cars that not many people would cross shop but I think it was still very informative.

[@jonsykes8780]

Seems to me that the Kia, at half the price isn't half the car. Kia's first real EV vs a car in production for 10 years, and the 10 year old is copying the new kid. If Kia can produce one of the best EVs in the world (lots of awards) at the first attempt, what will they be producing in 5 years time? Are Tesla running out of steam? Cars being caught by the competition at the first attempt. The Cybertruck still a dream as Rivian and Ford both have trucks in the hands of customers, the electric Semi, a pr stunt at best whilst others have real electric semis in testing and actually a real physical thing.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

More like 1/3 price because it has the tax credit.

[@nguyep4]

Ask this, if Kia is much better than Tesla being a 'new kid' why haven't Kia make much more? What is their targeted volume for 2023? Maybe Kia EVs or even Hyundai can't really make a profit on them or they both limited in resources to expand as quick as they would like. What is the limiting factor?

[@hockey1freak]

@@nguyep4 are you seriously asking what the limiting factor is in building cars in 2022? LOL

[@ThePeacePlant]

But the real question and thing to think about to yourself is if the Kia is worth it, because Kia are not known for having the longest lasting vehicles that last for decades such as Honda and Toyota. But also I don't know how much different a Electric Motor for a vehicle is compared to a regular Gas Motor, so idk if it will last longer than a Gas Motor which I as myself since it's pretty much just a Motor that transfers the power from the Battery into turning the wheels. Because Kias Gas Engines aren't the most reliable and their is a reason why Kias are much cheaper than Toyota and Honda just for going out and buying just a basic and base line trim/basic options you can choose for the vehicle instead of buying the Option above just a simple Basic Option, so what I am saying is that Kia basic option is way cheaper than Honda or Toyotas..

[@jonsykes8780]

@@ThePeacePlant you mean Kia, who offer 7 year warranties as standard on every car? And Toyota? Who've just had to recall every BZ4X because their wheels fall off? I know every manufacturer issues recalls, but, for wheels that fall off? I think humans have been making wheeled vehicles long enough to know how to do the basics.

[@coolpix222]

That 2 mode EV6 screen is no issue. Its actually great. I use it all of the time in both modes. The touch sensitive heated & cooled seats and the heated wheel buttons is a pain being too sensitive. However, you get used to it and adapt to be more careful.

[@hermanbodewesNL]

Exactly. The EV6 has a two mode panel, while the Tesla has one screen with all modes. And Kia is complex?

[@GeorgeKnighton]

In other venue, I see people talk about the EV6 going into thermal panic when using high powered charging, and reducing radically the charging rate while the car cools the battery. I was surprised, but happy to see no mention of that.

[@ScottDLR]

My 2024 hasn't done that (so far).

[@johnalseaf1439]

3:45… Glazing hard asf, who’s opening any door like that💀

[@sphynxboy2006]

I personally have trouble opening doors with different hands. I also cannot walk with both feet. I have to hop on my right foot when I am stressed.

[@patrickgroeneveld2340]

Nice honest comparison done by two very knowledgeable people. The model S costs more than $100K: a whopping 2X more than the EV6. Very few will be comparison shopping between these.

[@AshA-ww8hc]

Agreed. I am currently going back and forth in between the EV6 and the Model Y LR. Have reservations on both and expect to get either of them later this year. Will see.

[@amperformance7998]

True, though they can only directly compare the vehicles they have access to, not necessarily the ones they want. I think of this comparison as less between the Model S and EV6 and more between the general approach of Tesla and Kia.

[@jimji2774]

The Kia is not $50 except in the lowest trim. The GT line model shown is over $58K. Right now the dealers are adding about $8K or more to the asking price up to $70K.

[@ThePeacePlant]

Well yes, the Kia, Hyundai and Chevy Bolts are cheaper than Tesla's, but the real question you need to ask yourself and have answered, is 'How is it's reliability compared to Tesla' so you should really try to research about that and really get a honest answer for that question because Kia, Hyundai and Chevy aren't known for having the most reliable Cars, mainly because their Engines aren't the best and what I would normally label them as 'Garbage' Gas Engines, but the thing is idk how reliable their Electric Motors are that are in those companies Electric Cars and I wonder if they would naturally be better because it's really not much the same as a Gas Engine at all, so as said, I wonder if naturally the EV Engines would be better than the Gas Engines in general in any other brand and all these companies I mentioned above too which I am really trying to mention about in my comment, but as said, just any EV Engines in general for any company..

[@PluginDuo]

Alex never disappoints! Good video to start the day. How about a Polestar 2 vs EV 6 next, or i4 vs EV 6? Real owner vs owner review. As always, Good stuff Alex!

[@rinbine2713]

Do not buy Chinese car.

[@AFlyingCookieLOL]

@@rinbine2713 Racist trash above.

[@tominftlthomasp3559]

Teslas quality control was an issue with me. I don’t want to pick up a new car armed with a checklist. Heard so many complaints about Teslas fit and finish that’s what convinced me to purchase the EV6. Very happy with the car and no issues with anything so far!

[@Taduuuu]

3 years ago maybe no more issues with Tesla . Good luck with Kia and Hyundai 100k miles death trap . They all die after 100k miles

[@PumpUptheJam81]

We have zero fit and finish issues with our Tesla. I stopped listening to people on the internet and everything was great. Ev6 is a sweet ride though!

[@ScottDLR]

The EV6 and Kia's in general have amazing fit and finish. Mine is the best I have ever owned.

[@dennismurray5897]

Ev6 has ability to plan chargers. It's under the Nav button. Chargers along route, or nearby or at destination

[@EVBuyersGuide]

Thank you for sharing! -Travis

[@1970351C2V]

Good review. The gentleman who owns the Model S seemed very objective and knowledgeable about both vehicles.

[@noelgonzalez9549]

You guys gained a subscriber with this well balanced review.

[@northerncousin7862]

Nice review. Thanks to Kenny for his input. The Kia seems to compare very well and when the price is considered would be my choice.

[@bobuk5722]

The first thing I think about is the insurance. And then the indicator stalks .....

[@davidcapor6271]

Well that solves the question why doesn't every car have an available "sentry" more... Your battery will be dead

[@fernandop1]

*Kia's infotainment system is the best to me by far (layout, responsive, size, GPS, etc.)*

[@doctortrainerofficial]

How do you precondition the battery in the EV6 manually? Is there a button in the infotainment system somewhere? Or you need to accelerate the car and do regenerative breaking in quick succession?

[@EVBuyersGuide]

In your EV settings you should have the option to enable winter mode and this is intended to heat the battery when your start the climate for the vehicle. However, this may only be available if the car is equipped with the battery heater. -Travis

[@doctortrainerofficial]

Thanks! I also realized KIA provided a new software update with EV route planning (and thus automatic pre-heating).@@EVBuyersGuide

[@_CarlosA]

This guy seems knowledgeable! Awesome guest!

[@katiecannon8186]

I won’t spend either $50,000 or $100,000 on A car. But if I were to, I’d certainly do the KIA - especially after this side by side. I didn’t here one thing that sounded like $50,000 upgrade for the Tesla. So, I don’t know, I just really don’t get it. And that steering wheel is AWFUL! Yikes!

[@tominftlthomasp3559]

This has been a very interesting video.

[@jimji2774]

I didn't get to try the auto regen mode on my EV6 test drive but it sounds absolutely great. I did just love the paddle shifter regen adjusters including off however. Car just felt like it was riding on air on the highway with regen in off mode which was the opposite of my 2 weeks with a Rivian R1T which had the most obnoxious regen around as well as whiny motors. I recently tested a 2019 Jaguar I-pace with no adjustment - also not the best cross shopping vehicle with the Kia. The one level regen in the i pace worked much smoother than the Rivian and what an interior, but I so missed that finger tip adjustment on the Kia that it might be the deciding factor in a purchase for me. Give the people our options and make them convenient to use thank you Kia.

[@jimji2774]

Oh and absolutely great comparative information thank you much both.

[@anthonymalovrh2912]

What is the obsession with the frunk?

[@franklyfrank123]

Is there any software update to address the infotainment issues you found on EV6?

[@alexanderbrown8308]

No, sadly

[@txdevops]

This is an excellent and useful. Thanks!

[@mandingo1210]

He answered the question at the very beginning thanks

[@thespiceislife2082]

The EVgo stations in my area are only 50kw

[@alphaearth701]

Such a strange comparison. >$100K large sedan vs. ~$50K small crossover? This should be a Model Y vs. EV6 or Genesis Electrified G80 vs. Model S. Also, as a supposed EV Buyers Guide channel, the amount of Tesla content is shockingly low.

[@davidk4682]

Kenny was/is a great cohost with Alex. Job well done here guys!!

[@TechnicallyJeff]

Love my EV6. You need to update your infotainment on the EV6. Widescreen Android Auto support has been there for a few months and it's very high resolution.

[@KennyKo39]

Yes I read a review later that says the update fixes the issue with Android auto I had.

[@TechnicallyJeff]

@@KennyKo39 yeah the update fixes a few things including widescreen support.

[@jimji2774]

My test drive of the EV6 showed a really poor speech recognition UI. It could not understand my Navigation instructions at all. I wonder if there was a trick to that I missed and if the update may have made that better ?

[@tonyriccio5331]

What yr is that ev 6

[@t1328]

Good review. Thank you Kenny. While I appreciate most of your thoughts, I disagree with some, such as not using Sports mode because it doesn’t remember the mode. The button couldn’t be closer to your left thumb if it tried. Easiest thing to change in the world. But overall nice, objective view points. Alex, if you could get an unbiased reviewer with a Model Y, that would be particularly interesting.

[@Darclover82]

Tesla you can also use the app to open the front trunk.

[@Power5]

the pivot door handles need to be flipped so they fold out towards the back. Not sure why the tiny insignificant amount of drag reduction is chosen over a simple flush door handle style we have had for ages. But if you are pivoting handles, pivot towards the back not the front.

[@KTPurdy]

EA needs to solve their charging issues.

[@scottadams1119]

Great video, however as others have said, it's a real apples and oranges comparison. I can buy two similarly optioned EV6s for one Tesla Model S and still have money left in my wallet. Compared to a Tesla Model Y or even a model 3 would be more realistic. Keep up the good work though!

[@fokker4uify]

Alex should hire Kenny to do EV reviews. 🤣

[@JW77]

Alex, you have been very quiet about the F150 Lightning after its delivery. Everything OK?

[@ElroyMcDuff]

I'm guessing he's driving the heck out of it and the Rivian & trying to decide which one to keep.

[@a-dub]

It would be interesting to see you do this again once Hyundai has the Ioniq 6 released in the U.S. to compare with the Tesla.

[@turboman2019]

Very insightful input from Kenny,great idea Alex.

[@peterfriedman3745]

I have not seen one single review/opinion of the three sister cars that likes the breaks resetting after every power cycle. Why doesn’t Hyundia/Kia/Genisis listen to their customers and change that behavior via a software update? It’s seems to be a harbinger of these cars not improving over time via software updates.

[@IdaiMakayaPublications]

That Tesla is not appealing with all the silly controls. A nightmare if you use more than 1 car because you'll never get used to it in emergency situations. This Tesla controls design shouldn't be legal. It's less safe.

[@ManuelHernandez-tm1mq]

It is appealing. I use more than 2 cars, gas and electric and it’s a very easy switch back and forth but I prefer a Tesla

[@DennisSCelis]

Better stay with Tesla,, no problem with charging station.

[@nealeTH]

It’s worth noting that the Tesla Supercharger network in Europe and UK is steadily opening to non-Teslas. In the UK not all Supercharge locations are open, but there are quite a few and they are spread evenly across the country. This removes the Tesla advantage.

I bought a Tesla model S 2023. Until now many features are disabled ("will be addressed in a future software release"). Auto pilot, self park, auto wipers, summon and more. How come the review did not mention any of these issues (related to Tesla Vision / lack of radar sensors)

[@bluebikerathar]

In the meantime, EV6 has preconditioning. Video allready outdated.

[@tino5271]

Alex, Does kia have a boost mode like the Genesis gv 60? That would help with passing power on the freeway.

[@EV-olution]

No, the EV6 GT Line and Ioniq 5 do not have a boost mode, but the EV6 GT that is soon to be released in North America does. FYI, I have no issues passing on the highway with my EV6. Don't forget, the comment comes from a Model S owner that has much more power than the EV6.

[@sethtotten]

I own a Tesla model 3 & just sold it & get my Kia EV6 GT Line on Monday

[@Bebela1ms]

How do you like your Ev6? Is it better than Tesla?

[@noelgonzalez9549]

My Apple vs Android in the EV world thoughts were validated in this video.

[@tjs114]

Doesn't A Better Route Planner work in CarPlay and Android Auto? That would give you your charging stations.

[@markmiller3279]

I believe what they meant is that the car didn't communicate to apps the current charge level, so it couldn't automatically find charging stations based on expected range. I expect Hyundai/Kia will get this sorted out fairly soon. They update their infotainment systems fairly often.

[@katiecannon8186]

@@markmiller3279. That’s a question I’ve had: Whether they’re good at updating.

[@karlgunterwunsch1950]

Living in Germany the CCS charging infrastructure has some way to go yet but there is a lot of competition and the less reliable operator/station manufacturers are already being weeded out. There also is a lot of competition (at least 8 operators that offer 300 kW charging - Ionity, EnBW, Shell Recharge, Allego, FastNed, Aral Pulse, EWEgo, EOn). Only recently almost every McDonalds restaurant in my vicinity installed 300 kW charging in their parking lots. This will soon be supplemented by the so called Deutschlandnetz which will close the gaps the current operators left. The drawback though is that there are different charge cards that create a quagmire of which one is bpgiving you the best price wherever you are trying to charge at the moment... With kW prices rising and the SuC network being more expensive the Tesla drivers have switched to using the other networks more and more...

[@martinmcfly5405]

Still now ??

[@barryw9473]

I have never had a problem DCFC at EA with e-Golf. I have run into many, many broken EVgo stations in the SF Bay Area.

[@XY_Dude]

Good review. Yes - We love EA... BUT reliability is seriously lacking. Pods broken, errors, time to get the charge working can be long. We didn't like EVG. Just got our EV6 ('23); had a '19 Niro before. I was sad to see that if in coast regen mode, the brake pedal doesn't use up regen first. I'll have to experiment there.

[@foam27]

14:30 Incorrect, the Model 3 has more cubic cargo space than the EV6.

[@mmadchef808]

Maybe so but the EV6 uses the space better.

[@Joe-lb8qn]

At 5 seconds in you thank Kenny for loaning his Model Y !

[@Betamax84]

Its paramount that he mentioned the software/charging issues with EA and EVGO. It's a major turnoff for EV owners, and a non starter for people thinking about going electric.

[@joecatalano166]

Nice review. I own a M3LR and I’m starting to not like it so much anymore. I’ve watched a lot of reviews about teslas pros and cons and no one mentions that you can’t close a vent if you don’t want the air blowing out of it. All you can do is point it somewhere else, so stupid. And no android auto or CarPlay. I also miss easily accessible buttons , I hate doing everything through the screen.

[@derekd8778]

The ev6 is an amazing car! Build quality is much better than a Tesla! People who buy teslas are only about status! 😊

[@ManuelHernandez-tm1mq]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Boy did this age wrong. Tesla makes very good quality Model 3 & Ys and S (I admit Cybertruck isn’t that good quality, Elon fucked it over). I’ve herd so many issues about the EV6 I drive EV6 and only thing I like better about it is the charging speed

[@jhindson88]

Another excellent, objective review!

[@barryw9473]

Alex, I have seen videos with EA personnel who claim all vehicles get tested. Could you please interview someone from EA to find out more?

[@EVBuyersGuide]

**eventually** they test them, but sadly it's up to the car companies to provide the cars to EA to test, so when the EV is new it's unlikely to have been tested.

[@barryw9473]

@@EVBuyersGuide ok. Can’t blame EA, then. Do you think Tesla will test all EV models when Superchargers open up in USA?

[@EVBuyersGuide]

@@barryw9473 Hard to say, but I would guess that it'll end up a similar kind of debacle...

[@anthonymalovrh2912]

OMG - have to use the Hood release!!!

[@threadwork]

Excellent comparison and Alex and Kenny work well together A+

[@golfman6779]

The whole charging EV protocol is stupid. Imagine if gas nozzles were different for all cars.

[@bigjessus]

It's just Tesla that is doing that all other EV are standard...

[@Sheepleton]

Powered door handles in severe winter weather is a complete fail. Many Tesla owners complain they can't get in their cars lol.

[@UBSLIPN]

You can leave a Tesla on without the key present. It's called Camp Mode.

[@bigjessus]

Same on the ev6 you also have a utility model and the ability to charge external device AC

[@richardshepherd6092]

Really like the look of the Kia! deffo up there for my next car!

[@dece6170]

Tesla = the worst experience as an owner. Can't get parts, can't get things fixed (because the car comes broken form the factory brand new). Shady compnay.

[@smartelectriccar]

FUd much? Our 10 year old Tesla has been no issue to repair. Mobile service comes to our door when/as needed. I’ve had next day service multiple times.

[@kkgolf5371]

@@smartelectriccar You are one of the lucky ones. They rush to build them now and built like shht. There is a big issue with Model 3 power trunks now, My 2021 became defective and I could not open my trunk and I finally pulled it open only to come unhinged and push metal onto rear glass and shatter back and roof glass and ruin the paint on trunklid. My back of the car needed to be painted. Funny when I dropped off my car at service who pulled in right next to me, another Model 3 2021 with same exact issue with trunk and broken glass!!! They did cover under warranty but probably 5K damage bc of shht build and parts used. Now the car had paintwork and I was pissed. I traded it in last month (made 10k off of what I Paid for it in Dec 2020) for EV6 GT line and far better build and paint quality with 7500 tax credit. Tesla is not for everyone. I loved driving the car fast and handled well but noisy and stiff ride with Honda Civic vibes on the highway with the noise and overall ride.

[@dece6170]

@@smartelectriccar lmao your 10 year old Tesla? The ones they used to build by hand? That's not the case anymore buddy. They are built by unsupervised robot and pushed out the door before paint is dried for a fast sale.

[@Taduuuu]

Fake new bro😂.

[@SunshineVocals]

1st person who owned one that speaks the truth. Most people I find are deep down in Elon's ass that they can't be mad about anything even when it hurts them...also paying alot of money for very poor quality.

[@egidiomeola]

I think you're comparing apples to oranges here I understand both are EVS price point are very different for each other not too sure if you're what you're doing

[@doudymac]

That's what I was thinking. A Model Y would make more sense.

[@steveinoz8188]

EV charging shouldn't need an app to pay. They should just use credit cards - as you would do for petrol.

[@ContactBaroqueHall]

Whilst the model Y is more sluggish than the EV6, I don’t necessarily think the Tesla is so behind in general. Long term, yes, Tesla will be overtaken by the larger innovation and rapid pace in China and even South Korea; but at least for right now Tesla has a good following that could hold out for several years.

[@jsfbay1]

Interesting about the $15,000 FSD option vs the $6,000 Enhanced whatever-its-called option (prices as of 4/20/2023). I thought that everything was in place on the Tesla such that, after you have owned the car for X amount of time, you could pony up the $15k via some sort of OTA transaction, and voila, you now have FSD. Not true?

[@Qrail]

Good job for all involved.

[@darrelpeters]

Informative video but you’re not going to cross shop a model S against an EV six. They are in two totally different classes. You’re comparing a $50,000 car to a $100,000 car. 🤷🏽‍♂️. I would’ve liked to have seen this done with a model Y or even a model three. For what they cost however, the EV six and the ionic five are probably the two of the best EV vehicles on the market after Teslas.

[@markc7274]

That was my first question, why would you compare these two vehicles with such a huge difference.

[@markc7274]

You would still want to compare similar prices vehicles in general. You wouldn’t compare a Porsche to Toyota Camry

[@yogainspired5019]

Under $40k? Where?

[@youtubing7702]

Owned a 2021 Tesla model, S long range and boy is it junk junk junk junk. I guess what we’re buying is speed and technology and giving away normal things like quality craftsmanship fit and finish well that goes out the window with a tesla even if you spend over 100 K trust me.

[@ThePeacePlant]

Damn I wonder how off and uncomfortable it would feel driving the Tesla, because I drive with one hand a lot while leaning back a bit and just relaxing and getting comfortable. I even drive with one hand grabbing the left side of the steering wheel at the bottom left and just having my arm/elbow resting on my thigh/knee and or the arm rest on the door. Plus how bad it would be for just me personally as a human, like when I have to take heavy turns like when I have to touch pretty much every point of the wheel and especially the top of the wheel that is missing on the yolk of the Tesla steering wheel when I have to take certain turns and such. The wheel looks cool and is a cool looking design and looks futuristic, but really though, how reliable is it to actually use/drive with..(?)

[@creatureofrabbit2036]

As someone who hates the idea of a heavy regen, I cannot believe there would be an EV without blended braking. Just, why?

[@markmiller3279]

Pedal feel, as they said. Personally, I think this will get solved quickly enough, but right now some drivers find the responses erratic and hard to modulate. Tesla's logic is that only a small part of the time does a driver spend actively braking in a car that regens when the driver takes his foot off the accelerator.

[@ericstoner8635]

This comparison would have been better against a Model 3 and not Model S. Two completely different price points.

[@jamesamber6009]

Tesla's yoke looks so weird, most of my friends don't like it.

[@joejones6968]

Very detailed video, but, The Kia looks fantastic and way better then then Elon Musk thingy. The EV6 is a amazing car and for the price range is absolutely perfect and far exceeds the higher end competition. Build quality is top notch. Absolutely great. Kia really has hit the mark, just a great car

[@tariq3077]

this has been a great review, i really hope apple intergrates with kia better

[@directorjustin]

I used one pedal driving in an EV for a few weeks and decided it wasn't for me. Tesla forcing me to use one pedal driving is a deal breaker. I don't know why Tesla is so overly controlling with some things. I think Tesla needs to get with the program and offer two pedal driving as an option!

[@dt2526]

I don’t think you drove a Tesla 😂😂😂

[@Taduuuu]

Tell me you don’t know what your talking without telling me 😂

[@ricky240z]

Bro, I noticed that you walk on your buddy there and interrupted him several times. That is a bad habit and I have it myself and it's a bad habit. In this case, your fellow reviewer was very knowledgeable and it hampered his interactions with you.

[@tedlasalvia9668]

While I enjoyed this review, I wish the reviewers gave Kia the leeway that they gave Tesla when they came out with their early versions of electric vehicles. Let's be real. The fit, finish and mechanical issues with the early Teslas were horrible. The first few years, Tesla owners were beta testers for the product. They paid to be Beta Testers. Now Teslas are much better and the company has figured out how to make a consistent product. Given that information, I can tell you that the Kia EVs will get better in a much more compressed timeframe given that Kia knows how to make cars. I've sat in both vehicles and I realized that the shift from an ICE vehicle to the EV6 is much easier than the lunar landscape of the Tesla. In short, I think younger drivers (and drivers that can afford them) will adopt Tesla while older drivers will be more comfortable with Kia. Btw...I love both cars, but I'm waiting for the Kia EV6 GT!

[@os2baba]

Actually I don't think you can. If the EV6 was made 10 years ago, then you can give them the same leeway. But the reality is that the 1st gen ground up EV is competing against the experienced champ. And frankly, Kia's done a terrific job. I'd pick the EV6 (or the Ioniq 5) over the Model Y myself.

[@tedlasalvia9668]

@@os2baba So I went and test drove the Kia EV6 - It was nice but a bit smaller than the model Y - The heads-up display was nice and it felt like a "regular" crossover which will make some people more comfortable but then let's talk about the price - $4k in rather useless dealer installed accessories PLUS a $10k dealer markup. MSRP of $61.6k plus the aforementioned addons = $75.6 with no additional manufacturer installed items, and also before Taxes, Licenses and dealer delivery fees (Taxes are in excess of $5800 alone). Then Tesla dropped the MSRP on Model Y performance to $56,990 ($13K price cut) and the same day I put my order in. With everything, it was $63,800 out the door. Compare that to in excess of $81K to buy an EV6 GT now and you see why I chose the Tesla. I hope the details I provided help someone - Btw due to demand Tesla raised the price already for the Model Y P to $57,990.

[@os2baba]

@@tedlasalvia9668 IMO, there are just so many ways that I found the EV6 and the Ioniq 5 miles better than the MY. You touched on a couple. For me the deal-breaker is no Android Auto. As good as Tesla's software is, it's no match (other than the pre-conditioning) to AA. Birds eye view, the turn mirrors on the left display in line with the left mirror instead of the mental gymnastics of looking at the rear view in the center console, the quality of the cameras, the far far better sound insulation, much better warranty, better dealer service network etc. I'm in Atlanta and Tesla's price drops have had a miraculous effect on dealer markups on the Kia and Hyundai dealers. So before the price increase after rebate, the price for the MYLR was $51K (after rebate) and the price for the EV6 WND with the tech package (birds eye etc) and Ioniq 5 SEL was about $56K drive out. So for me, the difference was $5K. Now it's $3.5K. I was originally looking at the MYLR. And if I was still looking for it, I'd definitely have gone with either the EV6 or the Ioniq 5. The struggle was definitely between those two. The two major advantages on the Tesla is the charging network. Apparently nothing much has changed in the last 7 years since I returned the Leaf that I was leasing. The CCS network apparently is still dismal. The second advantage I think will be Tesla's autopilot. I turned off the 2017 Genesis autopilot. It was like I was fighting against the car. Tesla seems to have totally nailed it. But I ended up ordering the Model 3. That's working out to $41K after rebate. That's the cheapest EV I can get. Unless I fall in love with it, I plan to sell it in 2 or 3 years and get a 2023 EV6 or Ioniq 5.

[@techiefit]

Kia EV6 is a nice car, but their tech belongs in the museum.

[@deep6thisdeep6this92]

the host made it clear in the first couple of sentences that he clearly doesn't know if he drove or is in the presence of a tesla model S or Y. then they go on to make silly comparisons of useability concerning the opening of a pretty much useless front trunk on both vehicles. ...and absurd video. i turned it off at the 1:35 mark.

[@eddieyutub]

For now I will just rent all EVs

[@markrosekrans1112]

These guys work for tesla

[@alexanderbrown8308]

Evidence?

[@gregjenkins2925]

@@alexanderbrown8308 door handle assessment - used left side of EV6 and right side of Tesla, to try and say the Tesla had better handle design.

[@alexanderbrown8308]

@@gregjenkins2925 having used both I disagree. I find the Tesla handles extremely intuitive and ergonomic. The EV 6 feels like a cheap knockoff. But each to our own I guess.

[@PastelitoBombon]

Tesla is a breeze for travelling - autopilot, reliable chargers, route planner, good range. Other EVs are still hit or miss

[@markmiller3279]

Yes, the CCS fast charging network is a few years behind, but with sales what they are it should eventually catch up. The Federal Government should also take VW to task for the deficiencies of EA. They were supposed to spend their money on a real charging network, not a broken system.

[@jerrywinchell2840]

@@markmiller3279 VW is at least building a charging network. What are the other carmakers beside Tesla and VW doing to expand the number of charging stations? Answer: Nothing!

[@a55tech]

going dashless has not caught on, hopefully next Model Y will put the dashboard back if not also add HUD

[@amperformance7998]

I don't imagine either is coming. I think Tesla is betting on autonomous operation making instrument panels unnecessary (not sure that is a wise bet), and/or they don't want to spend the money. I think part of Tesla's sparse interior approach is the result of cost-cutting, any switches, controls, or screens they can eliminate is a saving. The HUD is more likely, though.

[@a55tech]

@@amperformance7998 ah dang. I guess HUD is sufficient esp if done well, not like Kia w/ the extra reflections of the contraption lol

[@leebr2010]

Nope, don't need it, don't want it. I hope it stays the same. I like having wide open view in front of me.