Kia EV6 the THINGS I HATE!

[@elektrischverhaal5166]

90k kilometers with my 2022 EV6 in 🇪🇺🇧🇪 . I still get in every day with the smile but I follow you 100% in the minor flaws of the EV6. No serious faults, but best to solve anyway. I have the most problems with the paint quality. The stone chips on the hood are just a battlefield. Often put forward, but “No rear window wiper” is not a problem for me, but then the camera must either be better protected from dirt (different position) or have a washer function. Thanks to the local dealer, my 12V battery here was replaced under warranty after 2.5 years, free of charge 👍 🙏 Kia Belgium. I think we have to assume a new reality on that front and that 2 to 3 years with a 12V battery for an EV is the new normal because they are also used very differently? After almost 3 years, I still see few other cars that come close in price, range and fast charging capability. As a travel car, unbeatable. Mine is in deep forest green, and you see very few of those here, so still a unique color. Very happy with it. Keep up the good work! 💪 You are being watched, even in little Belgium!

[@EV-olution]

Same here, I still smile when I drive mine, it is an amazing vehicle. I did not touch on the subject, but I agree, the paint on the hood/bonnet is not very strong. Mine has many chips and is starting to look pretty bad. I have no issues with the rear window either and I see how anyone could complain about it. I have never had to wipe it, but the backup camera is always getting dirty, which makes me miss the CamWipe on my Niro EV. Regarding your 12V battery, you are lucky because in Canada, after the first year, the warranty is based on months of use and a fee applies. It is only free in the first 12 months, which is why I opted to replace mine with the AGM battery after 18 months, like I did with my Niro EV. Problem solved. As for the colour you have, I love it and would have seriously been torn between green and the red I have if green were available in the GT-Line. Since it wasn't my choice was easy. And thanks for watching, I really appreciate it 😎

[@gubsak55]

We ordered a red EV6 AWD in Germany in May 22 and waited 13 months in vain because it was not a top of the line version. We did not want 20 inch wheels or Meridian etc. Then we checked the market and found 3 top models within a week. So now we have a boring black version (with all the extras). From inside, we don't notice it that much 😢 I'm sure Kia prioritised sending the top models to Germany, and the rest could wait. We are quite content, though.😊😊

[@EV-olution]

It's a shame you could not get what you wanted, but the top trim is still a very nice EV6. You could get 19" wheels to get the extra range though. 😎

[@gubsak55]

​@@EV-olutionYes and no. For some odd reason the way they described our car in the official papers issued by the German authorities we could not get any 19 inch wheels, so we had to buy 20 inch ones as winter tyres. More expensive and not as good for winter driving. I suppose we could get this changed, but that is too late now.

[@EV-olution]

@gubsak55 that is very strange. I am glad we don't have rules like that here; it makes no sense since the car has 19“ wheels as an option from the factory.

[@iainlroy]

Great video, I too think my EV6 AWD matt grey is the best car I have ever owned. Only problem for Kia is that I think I will kept it for 5 or 6 years (5 year service pak purchased for £530). Saw the new facelift EV6 at an EV show last week but not a big enough uplift to get me to part with my current car. Keep the video's coming and all the best from the UK!

[@EV-olution]

The refresh EV6 is nice, but not as aggressive looking as the current EV6 and I am hoping the GT will have more distinction as compared to the current model year GT-Line vs GT. I find that the current GT-Line and GT look far too similar and would like to see the new model have a differentiation similar to what Hyundai did with the Ioniq 5 and Ioniq 5N. Aside from that, the new EV6 offering a larger battery pack, the new infotainment, and correcting some of the issues I mention in this video, make it interesting to me. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it.

[@charlottecolbert3707]

2022 GT-Line Awd. Same issue with the I-Pedal dings and the loss of the setting on shut down. Same issue with rain sensing wipers. In the US the head lights are worthless. The 2025 seems to have made some improvements. Like you, my wife and I love the EV6. Always enjoy your videos.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much, I appreciate it.

[@JonathanBlanchardREMAX]

24 000km de fait en 7 mois avec ma Ioniq 5 ultimate 2024 et toujours le sourire au lèvre en conduisant! Par contre l’installation d’une pellicule pare-pierre sur tout le devant (bumper avant complet , capot complet, ailes avant et pilier de pare-brise) pour éviter les chips de roche! Meilleur 1500$ investi considérant les routes du Québec!

[@EV-olution]

La protection avec pellicule est vraiment requise. Ce qui est décevant est que je n'ai jamais eu le besoin avant.

[@michael7738]

Pretty much the same "issues" for me, although I can very well live with the things you mentioned. I am not using Android Auto or Apples Carplay at all - I never found a good use even with the cable. The one thing that annoys me the most while driving is the unreliable speed limit detection while having smart cruise control active. I mean, often there is not even a road sign and the car decides to change the SCC from 80 to 100km/h or vice versa. For me it even became a habit to always set cruise control to 1 km/h above or below the actual limit, so it doesn't change automatically. Regarding the overall experience with the EV6 I completely agree with you. It's a nice car and I hope we will travel together for many years to come.

[@EV-olution]

I disabled the auto speed detection because I did not like it changing by itself since the situation sometimes requires keeping the current speed for a short period.

[@mikehedrick6544]

Great Video!!! I had a few chuckles during the main section of video and then more at the end. André, I always look forward to your videos. ✅

[@EV-olution]

Thanks Mike, I appreciate it, and thanks for taking the time to watch.

[@ibeam68]

Great video again! My number one annoyance and by far is that you can't start seat heating from the app. The charger port light was added to newer models but I agree it's annoying. I used a florescent pen to highlight the socket. Don't have an issue with the wipers nor the 12v battery. I now only use ipedal in heavy traffic (BTW you lose it even when to put the car in reverse).

[@EV-olution]

I had forgotten about the heated seats not being in the app. I agree, it is annoying. I was told that the charge port light is in the 2024 model, I wonder if it is in the 2023.

[@AlainODea]

Great video, André. The piano black is a curse. Sandy Munro also hates it. Bloopers were a great laugh. I was waiting for you to curse the backup beeps for sure.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much. Regarding the beeping, I came very close to swearing, but after making the previous video I had a discussion with David where I would refrain from swearing because it requires him to add a beep over the swear word, adding work to the edit. So in the blooper you are referring to, I was exercising my restraint quite a bit 😎

[@celiakan7553]

I got the EV6 Land AWD and the heated seat/steering button is actual button. We always charged up the big battery when around 50%. That ways, it will always charge the 12V battery.

[@EV-olution]

Yes, as I mentioned in the video, the lower trims get physical buttons which is excellent. I wish my car had them. Regarding state of charge versus the 12V battery, my car is always between 40 and 80%. The issue with my early 2022 EV6 is the ICCU, but I had the recalls done so it should be fine now. I won't be able to tell what fixed it though since I now have an AGM 12V battery and a battery pack between my 12V and my dashcam 😎

[@alf699]

We have got the same EV6 GT-Line AWD here in Australia, except ours is late 2023 (BY24). Agree with all your comments. Ours does now have a light at the charging port. We don't use iPaddle at all, so we don't know if ours has the same issue. And here is a really odd one: Ours has the physical buttons of the lower model in the middle console for the seats....lucky us :-). Everything else is up to GT-Line specs. We have done about 15,000km and when it looks like that the 12Vdc battery dies, we will simply replace it with something better. The 12Vdc battery issues seem to be a very common problem across most EV's. I can't figure out why.

[@EV-olution]

When you replace your 12V battery, be sure to get an AGM version. It should solve the issue.

[@Daedalus2112]

The iPedal reset and Android Auto wired/not showing on the HUD seem like easy software updates that they just haven't bothered with, which drives me crazy. You can also add not having a software/app based key...It would be nice to unlock (via proximity) /start the car with my phone.

[@EV-olution]

Yeah, the missing app key is a "would be nice to have", but I think there may be hardware missing (BLE or NFC) in the handle, making the cell phone as a key not feasible. I also think the lack of software feature updates annoying.

[@tonycardazzi6301]

Love the bloopers 😆

[@TerjeL]

I'm always looking forward to them as well 😂

[@N5ZY]

In my 2020 Niro EV I replaced the 12v battery with a Die Hard EV AGM.. H4-xEV. That's what they had on the shelf, ready to go. Yeah, the wet battery once discharged to 50% its life has been reduced. A few times of this and it's life is very short. The AGM's can be discharged to 80%. Much tougher also.. I wish I could find an H4 that is LiFePo4 but the most time consuming task was finding a battery H4 AGM with the negative terminal on the left side.

[@EV-olution]

That is why I was very happy to have a battery specialist store available. They have tons of versions that I could compare and even test. The EV6 was an easy swap. My 2019 Niro EV was more difficult because of the terminal positions and the size of the battery tray. I managed to make the Bolt47 AGM fit by trimming off one side of the tray and it never moved, even after 1 year of driving.

[@stevecoombs3271]

Having 12v battery issues, dealer said battery tests ok, keep getting stop safely message intermittently when switching the car on, then it’s a get the charging port open and plug the car in for a short time to top up the 12v battery, GTLine S AWD coming up to 3 years old, back to the dealership next week to see what’s going on.

[@EV-olution]

Your issue sounds 100% like the 12V battery being too low. The problem with the dealer is that they are probably testing the battery after it has been topped up from you driving the car. That is the reason I installed a Bluetooth battery monitor. The graphs I show in this video are from the app used to monitor the 12V and prove that the car was not maintaining the 12V battery. It was worth 45$ to keep an eye on the 12V and prove it was bad. Here is what I bought and still use: amzn.to/4fhRW8j

[@stephenclay6852]

Hi ,I have the same car as yourself having had the Kia E NIRO that you had and haven’t had any problems with the batteries on both cars. Now wether that’s pot luck or not who knows but I do know that if you leave the traction battery at below a 20% state of charge it won’t charge the 12v battery. Secondly the heated seat and steering wheel switch’s are so easy to activate done it myself on numerous occasions but on the face lifted modal they are a press switch option and as for wireless Apple CarPlay it’s the head unit that prevents it we’re again on the new car it has it. As for the gloss black I agree with you. On my car I had ppf on the front. But like you still love the car.

[@EV-olution]

I never leave my car below 20% SoC, so I am sure that that is not the issue. I believe there are a couple of issues and it may have been resolved with the ICCU update. Since I now have an AGM 12V battery and a battery pack between the 12V and my dashcam, it is difficult to know what fixed the issue. I occasionally look at the 12V battery monitor graph and it is fine. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it.

[@Martinedo_]

i really like your videos. as the EV6 is out for like 3 years i hope there will be slowly popping experiences from people who use it heavily with high km driven. I have mine for a year with almost 30k km and it stills feels/drives like a new car. great car

[@EV-olution]

Thank you, I am glad you like the videos we make. The EV6 really is the best car I have ever owned and I still smile when I see it and drive it.

[@JimScooler]

This is a great video. I love listing the things you hate but still love th car overall. I have a 24 EV6 GT-line. I LOVE it. First EV, and enjoying learning about the new tech. I got a $40 wireless adapter for wireless CarPlay and it works flawlessly. I hate that I can’t use my own nav app if I want to precondition the battery or enjoy the HUD prompts. I was able to get both native nav and CarPlay working at the same time using some cheats on another YT channel, but it still doesn’t seem to work most of the time (only one nav can be operating at a time). I’m anxiously waiting for new features and “bug” fixes on OTA updates but those are few and far between.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much, I am glad you like it. I do love my car, the EV6 is an amazing vehicle and don't regret it one bit. I also have a wireless AA device (actually called Wireless AA), but the wireless connection disconnects occasionally, which is frustrating. I saw the video you are talking about with regards to getting both navigations running at the same time, but I have not tried it. I don't know if you have searched my KZbin channel or website, but I have some EV6 features videos that may be of interest to you. Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it.

[@teamnotleafy6887]

Sorted the piano black by having it all PPFed, even the interior, after 2years and 16k miles it still looks great. Yes, the i-Pedal ding, my wife keeps asking what that is, yes the charge light. I have also had 12v problems when packing, open the power tailgate a few times and the battery goes from 99% to 64%. On holiday packing for return the 12v died, fortunately I keep a jump in the frunk.The garage tested the battery and says it's OK but it didn't used to do that. A good tip is to plug the V2L plug in while packing as it triggers the 12v to charge, but why doesn't it recharge when it gets below 50%? My biggest gripe though is not having a manual precharge button, there are so many occasions where navigating to the charger won't work.

[@EV-olution]

I was supposed to have the car PPF'd, but I bought a house at the same time and put my money there instead. I also find it frustrating that you have to spend 2,000$ to PPF a car that costs 65K, when I did not have to do that on my new 20,000$ Nissan back in 2014. There is no excuse and they should stop using piano black. I really hate it. I agree, there should be a button to turn on preconditioning manually. I have the same issue where it does not precondition because the conditions are not met when selecting certain DCFC locations (distance, time, etc).

[@YeOldeTraveller]

I find the Wind trim preferable as it has less gloss black and the physical buttons. With the Tech Package and AWD, the only thing I would want from the GT-Line trim is the HUD.

[@EV-olution]

I hope Kia moves away from these sill things, it makes no sense for daily use of a car.. The HUD is excellent and I want it in every car I will own. You never look at the cluster and your eyes are always on the road with a HUD, but they need to fix what is displayed. I will be making a video about that.

[@JohnZolla-bp7tl]

When I reach for the volume control on my I5 I often increase the temperature on my HVAC. Not a great feature. 😉

[@EV-olution]

“Nice“ to see it's not just the EV6 😎

[@Lentomannen3]

I hade this problem with "zombie mode", the car does not says ready. I had to "reset" the car by removing the plus cable from the 12-volt battery. And i had low voltage 1 time in 9 months. The car was called back to kia to change the ICCU, it was a known problem with depleted 12-volt battery. I hope its not happening again. 🙂

[@EV-olution]

The ICCU update/replacement should solve the issue with the 12V battery. Since I installed a 12V AGM battery and a battery pack between my 12V and the dashcam I have, I can't tell if the ICCU update fixed my issue, or if the other things did.

[@thedaeron3877]

Nice video, great point exept for wireless android auto... i used it and it's BAD really BAD it drains the phone batterie as hell and makes your phone hot as lava. Better being wired and charging your phone at the sametime, but yeah it's a shame we don'T have head's up display with android auto.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you. Regarding wireless Android Auto, I used it extensively for the entire week I had the Kia EV9 press fleet car to make the review video I put out in August and I had no issues. I have a Galaxy Fold 5 which does not have a massive battery and did not have problems with over draining, although I did test the wireless charging to see if it had been improved over previous generations of Kia EVs. The issue of the hot phone is caused by the wireless charger, which is an issue for pretty much all wireless chargers, and I strongly recommend against using it. I actually have the wireless charging pad turned off in my car. Thanks again, I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video.

[@thedaeron3877]

@@EV-olution Just for the records i've tried with my galaxy S24 ultra and my old galaxy S22 and apple car play with my kids iphone and they all did the same. Don't know why but for me i really prefer the wired option ! thx for the replay :) !

[@EV-olution]

@@thedaeron3877 interesting to know. I will try it again when I get another e-GMP car for a video. Thanks for the extra details, I appreciate it.

[@V10PDTDI]

I have a 2015 Volkswagen e Golf SEL US specs it’s been here in Canada since the car was a year old it has 140000 km now and you know what it still has the original AGM battery and I also have a 2023 iD4 with it’s original battery but I’ve heard that they have some issues with the low voltage battery but not only the ID4 all other cars on the same platform.

[@EV-olution]

Your experience proves that AGM is the way to go with a 12V battery in an EV. The issue for manufacturers is the cost is at least double for AGM so they don't use them. In my mind that does not makes sense because I had two 12V batteries for free, from Kia, in the first 18 months. If the car had an AGM I would not have had to replace it and it would have cost less for Kia since they had to pay the dealer to replace the 12V, not just the cost of the battey itself.

[@daviddyen4015]

Merci complétemznt d'accord avec ces points... Pas d'AA sans fil alors qu'une ë-C3 l'a, plastiques noirs dedans et dehors, AA / maps pas dans l'affichage tête haute... J'ajouterai un autre irritant : le planificateur pas fini, par exemple toujours pas possible de définir le % à l'arrivée. J'aime beaucoup mon ev6 aussi mais à 65k il y a des choses qui ne passent pas.

[@EV-olution]

Effectivement, la possibilité de programmer le % de charge à destination serait intéressant. Pour les voyages à un endroit que je ne connais pas j'utilise ABRP avec mon module OBD2, ce qui me permet de paramétrer l’état de charge à destination. C’est dommage que Kia n’utilise pas Android Built-In comme Polestar, ça rendrait les choses tellement plus faciles.

[@DAReeseDroid]

​@@EV-olutionthe Ioniq 5 will be moving to Android Automotive in 2026.

[@EV-olution]

@@DAReeseDroid yes, but that is still a long way off and it will be lead by Samsung which will include Samsung account integration which I am not a big fan of. It means that Samsung will gather all of your car data. They already own so much phone data that I am not thrilled about them integrating so deeply into cars. It's bad enough that Google also gets all the data 😎

[@khazm2k]

The 12Volt Battery in KIA has been an issue with all the cars. I had to change mine in the Sorento 4 times, same in my Kia Soul EV 2018 and another Soul. My GFs Genesis GV60 needed to be changed after 3 months of ownership. There is something that sucks the juices somewhere!!!

[@EV-olution]

My wife has a 2019 Soul EV and only needed the 12V battery to be changed after 4.5 years. I am not sure where the issue lies with the Niro EV and my EV6, but it was annoying. It's a good thing the AGM 12V patches the problem.

[@Molishious]

Hopefully some things have been improved with the 2025 update that has then new ccnc software so things like the navigation showing up in the display and the regen level not being saved, might be solved. I know they removed the gloss black form the center console. Interesting that you didn't complain about the dual purpose infotainment system that you have to press a button to switch from one to the other. I suppose if you do your audio controls via the steering wheel its not so bad. I have gloss black on my car and I haven't noticed extra wear and tear, but I just don't like the look of it. If I got the EV 9 I'd want the AWD Wind trim as it has all the things I want the most but also has matte black on the wheel wells instead of gloss black. Mostly it's a lot cheaper, but not having the gloss black is a bonus. I'm probably going for the 2025 Ioniq 5 as I prefer the styling and it has some advantages like a rear wiper and actual physical buttons on the top trim for the seat heaters. But if the I5 didn't exist, I'd be perfectly happy with an EV 6.

[@EV-olution]

The new generation of E-GMP does solve some of the issues, like the i-Pedal "ding" having been removed, the HUD has the Google Maps navigation directions, it has wireless Android Auto and CarPlay, and it got rid of the gloss black. Unfortunately, the 2025 EV6 is a refresh and not a new version, so there are some improvements, but some things remain, like the dual control panel below the vents. Regardless of your choice of Ioniq 5, EV9 or EV6, they are all excellent vehicles to have.

[@mondotv4216]

That ding would annoy me too. Also, just to point out Kia/Hyundai did not invent the regen paddles, they first appeared on the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (AFAIK).

[@EV-olution]

No, they did not invent the regen paddles, but they are the only ones to produce pure EVs that use them, which is what gives them an advantage 😎

[@mondotv4216]

@@EV-olution One thing you didn’t mention - how efficient is the EV6?

[@EV-olution]

That is because this video is not a car review, it's a list of the things I don't like about my car and that Kia could improve upon. The EV6 is pretty efficient, like all Kia, Hyundai and Genesis EVs on the e-GMP platform. My AWD GT-Line Pack 2 is rated for 406km of range, but I consistently get about 425km summer range, and even more if I do less highway driving.

[@MrKb1959]

Thanks , great video😊

[@EV-olution]

You are very welcome, I am glad you liked it, and thanks for watching.

[@jameshiggins-thomas9617]

The 12v maintenance (and related issues) is confusing. My Volt did no maintenance while off (to the best of my knowledge) and never had any issues. It was an AGM from the factory, but just the fact that it could last (just like in an ICE) while off .... 🤷‍♂️

[@EV-olution]

The difference with your Volt is that it had a gas motor with an alternator to maintain the 12V battery, and possibly a system to maintain the 12V via the high voltage battery (with no indicator). That plus the fact that your battery was AGM means the the chance of a 12V issue is slim to none. That is the reason I installed an AGM 12V in my cars, and with the ICCU update from Kia the issue should be resolved in the EV6.

[@kelvinlewis1329]

I have the same problems with my 22 Kia ev6 gt line s ,here in the uk the only difference is Kia changed my I ICCU which remedied the 12v battery issue since then I always carry a lithium jump starter pack

[@EV-olution]

My car had the ICCU updates, but I am still weary and always have my jumper pack in the frunk 😎

[@MichelObadia1008]

Bonjour André! Thank you so much for the great reviews, advice and how-tos! Very useful and fantastique! I'm thinking of buying my first electric car and have my heart set on the 2025 EV6 GT-Line Pack 2. Would you still recommend this car? Any major points I should watch out for? Hopefully they've fixed some of the issues in the refresh. Merci!

[@EV-olution]

You are very welcome, I am glad my videos are helpful. Regarding your choice of the 2025 EV6 top trim, it is an excellent choice because I am very confident that they have fixed some of the annoyances of my EV6. The refreshed EV6 is still not available in the Canadian press fleet here in Québec, but I have reviewed the EV9 which has the new version of tech. The new EV6 should have removed the i-Pedal "ding", should have much less gloss black inside the car, should have the new infotainment that offers wireless AA and Carplay as well as AA directions in the HUD like I mentioned in the video, and I am sure the ICCU update has been integrated into the new car so the 12V battery should be fine. Even if those things were not fixed I would still suggest the EV6 as it is an amazing car to drive and own.

[@MichelObadia1008]

@@EV-olution Merci André. I used to live in Montreal for 10 years but I've been in Vancouver for the last 30 years. You've probably covered this in one of your videos, if so my apologies, and you can direct me to that video... but just wondering how the EV6 handles in the snow and rain, from your experience.

[@EV-olution]

@@MichelObadia1008 the handles work very well, and you are right, I made a video about it 😎. Here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooqkpWOQbqeKq8k

[@MichelObadia1008]

@@EV-olution Merci André. I did view this one a few times but you did answer my question regarding handling in snow. I'm supposing there is no need for a rear wiper in the rain or snow, for that matter? 🙂

[@EV-olution]

@@MichelObadia1008 no need for a rear wiper. I recorded a video about the subject and it will come out in December.

[@kalamazoo151]

How about the annoying aspect of the inability to remotely close the sunroof. I have left mine open in error several times. You have to climb in the car, start it and then close the roof. Ridiculous.

[@EV-olution]

Ah! Yes, that is one I forgot. There should be a remote method. Thanks!

[@afrabotta8185]

Surprised no mention of the temperamental door handles not responding to lock/unlock when depressed. I had to install a cabinet door bumper on the sensor to correct. Thanks again to Kia forum contributor that post this workaround to fix

[@EV-olution]

I am not sure I understand your issue. I have no problems with the touch sensitive door lock button on the handles.

[@afrabotta8185]

So when you push in on the handle to unlock/lock the doors many times it doesn’t recognize the depression of the handle. I have to apply immense pressure for it to work. Its a known problem many have noted having issue with on forums. This isn’t something you have had issue with?

[@EV-olution]

Ah. That's a difference with my car. It is not a physical button, it's a touch sensitive spot that I don't press, I just touch it.

[@afrabotta8185]

Ahh fair. I have the Wind model. Your GT and Ioniq have the sensor. Wish they used it on all

[@jeffmenard4639]

André, great video. Seamless editing my friend. Stunned that the battery gave out twice, still due to installed 3rd party video ? Battery expert sounds like they’re on top of the quirks of an EV. Can you elaborate on?

[@EV-olution]

Thanks Jeff. The dashcam may have been one cause, but the 12V battery management is an issue. I installed a battery pack between my 12V and the dashcam so I eliminated it from the equation and I still had issues. The 12V AGM battery I bought from Batteries Expert allows for a deeper discharge without ruining the battery health, essentially solving the issue. I used the same 12V in my Niro EV when I had the issue.

[@mikebrueton6716]

One way to stop your 12 v battery from dying is don’t let your main traction battery go below 20% too often. Below 20% it won’t charge the 12v battery.

[@EV-olution]

My high voltage battery is never below 20% unless I am driving, but gets charged after the drive. Leaving the car's main battery below 20% or above 80% for a prolonged period of time is not very good for the battery. Thanks for the information.

[@gregsparrow1499]

I agree with most of your 'first world' problems with the EV6. How about the ability to use a thumb drive to record what is displayed on the existing cameras? Why should we have to purchase another camera in order to record? The position of some of the cameras makes them useless in rainy Vancouver. The mirror ones just collect rain drops.

[@EV-olution]

The sad part is that in Korea, when the EV6 was released, they got the ability to record video from the cameras.

[@affugter]

Even with the physical buttons I sometimes hit the seat heater 😅 And yes the i-padel beeping is annoying.

[@EV-olution]

😆 let's just say those buttons are not in the best location

[@DB25k]

Another tip top , great quality video from your EV world perspective.. brilliant..

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much.

[@srowlands248]

Loving the new style video, but PLEASE DONT LET the editor/camera man put music overlay on top of you speaking it was difficult to hear you speak.

[@EV-olution]

Thank you very much, I am glad you like it. I am surprised you had a difficult time understanding me when there was music, we make sure the music level is low enough to be heard, but not enough to overpower my voice. In general you will only have music under my voice for short periods of time and usually never when it is the main subject.

[@srowlands248]

@@EV-olution I personally found it distracting and difficult to hear what you were saying, all the same still great informative entertainment.

[@afrabotta8185]

Kinda surprised of no mention regarding the subpar audio as well. Hate the subwoofer is hidden bottom trunk which muzzles it

[@EV-olution]

I have adjusted the audio settings (I have a video about it) and the sound is pretty good. Since making that video I have increased the bass to max and fine tuned the rest and I am happy enough with the sound. Not great, but nothing to complain about. I do agree that Kia could have done better though.

[@jimmyvargas130]

I have 2023 kia ev6 Gt i have the battery issue when I bay new battery when I test the old battery test 14:24 good

[@gman9543]

Touch buttons in general, not a great idea. Oh and BTW, the 2024's have a charge port light now.

[@EV-olution]

I agree 100%

[@rickdeckard9810]

Most of those seem like pet peeves except the battery issue, that seems quite unusual did Kia address them? How’s the winter range on this GT in Quebec Winters?

[@EV-olution]

That is why I make the comments I make, at the beginning and end of the video. As for your question about winter, I replied to your comment from yesterday, but here it is again. The general rule of thumb for any modern EV in winter is a 30% loss of range. With that being said, in my experience, both my wife's 2019 Kia Soul EV, my previous 2019 Kia Niro EV, and now with my 2022 Kia EV6, the winter range loss is about 25%. As for a range number, that is a number that will be different for each person, even if two people have the same car the range numbers can be vastly different because of several factors: heavy or light foot, wind, rain, snow, wheel size, tires, tire pressure, road condition and surfaces, highway vs city driving, etc. My EV6 GT-Line Pack 2 has 20 inch wheels from the factory and is officially rated for 406km or range from Kia; however, in the summer I get up to 450km, but average about 400km since I do a fair amount of highway driving which reduces range in an EV. For the winter I bought some 19 inch Fast Wheels that are light and aerodynamic (video available on my channel) and with my winter tires I get between 300km and 320km, which falls into my 25% average range loss. I hope this helps, but if you want to know more I have this video from 3 years ago. I cringe at watching an old video, but the info is valid still: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJbTkqdrbdeaf7Msi=VHUeoTclwEU3jc1p

[@huib1715]

Hi Andre whats de manufacturer en model off the LI-ION booster pack you mention on 10.40'

[@EV-olution]

I use a Type-S booster pack, but I bought it years ago. I am trying to get a new model from another manufacturer, to review and will post when I get it.

[@philippeaudet7395]

All true but I'm fortunate enough (even though I had to wait a darn long time for it) to have a 2024 GT1, so no batterie problems and physical heating buttons... oh I don't have heads-up display so can't complain about that but the critic is still good!

[@EV-olution]

Effectivement, la GT-Line Pack 1 élimine certaines choses de ma liste 😎, et je fais un commentaire à la fin du segment qui parle des boutons touch (de merde), que le modèle en dessous de la Pack 2 offre des vrai boutons. J'aurais tellement aimé qu'ils les gardent pour la Pack 2. Félicitations pour votre 2024!

[@philippeaudet7395]

@@EV-olution merci! Et merci encore de mavoir fait essayer la votre au salon de l'auto de Québec!

[@EV-olution]

Ça me fait plaisir 😎

[@RobbieFitzgerald]

Thanks for the insights Andre.

[@EV-olution]

You are very welcome. Thanks for taking the time to watch.

[@Paganasia]

in the 2024 version they added a ligth for the charge port

[@EV-olution]

There are a couple of things Kia fixed in the refresh version, including removal of the annoying i-Pedal "ding", like they did in the EV9. Nice to know the charge port now has a light.

[@marcgrondin65]

It seems that Tesla and Kia are sharing ECM or programming on the "auto" wiper speed. I have taken the habit of just not using it :: strictly for the birds or have a good laugh when I have company. Hope to see you at the SVEQ mate.

[@EV-olution]

Yep, I think someone at Tesla played a joke on Kia and sent them their "auto" wiper code 😉. I also don't use it much. Pour le SVEQ, c'est quand encore?

[@marcgrondin65]

@@EV-olution allo - c'est du 25 au 27 oct : we can always use an experienced guy like yourself.

[@EV-olution]

Je suis supposé d'être en tournage pour une vidéo, mais c'est à confirmer. J'ai reçu une demande de participation de deux personnes de l'AVEQ, mais je ne suis pas certain d'être disponible.

[@marcgrondin65]

@@EV-olution no worries -> we're just trying to line-up our best resources.

[@bobstevenson4396]

I really do not care for the headlights in our 2023 EV6-GT line. Our 2019 Niro SX touring EV had much better night time illumination!

[@EV-olution]

I would have to put them side by side, but I find the headlights are similar to my Niro EV. Both have LED headlights and do a decent job.

[@bobstevenson4396]

@@EV-olutionI believe Bjorn also was not impressed with the headlights. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHO2f6CpmcuFb6Msi=Y6xGAccKfdAL3ArK

[@Glaliber]

Excellent analysis. I am waiting for the 2025 version for some improvements here they are in order of importance; Apple car play wireless, I hope the problems with the ICCU and 12V battery will be corrected with the 2025 version, improved battery capacity, improved multimedia interface (same as EV9), head-up display synchronized with Google map. There are a lot of 2024 EV6s available now, I will lose a government rebate of $3000 CAD if I wait until 2025. I can afford the extra $3000. My current car is a 2020 Kia Stinger Limited that I love, but, I am due for a change and go electric. Do you advise me to buy a 2024 or 2025?

[@EV-olution]

The choice of 2024 vs 2025 is a bit of a sticky question. There are tons of 2024 available and I am sure there are deals to be had, with better interest rates, and the full 12,000$ rebate. Your list of improvements is correct and will make the refreshed 2025 version very interesting, but at what price difference? If you are willing to spend thousands more for the improvements, then the 2025 is the choice to make, but the 2024 is still an amazing car, especially if you can save several thousands as compared to the 2025. Either way, you won't go wrong.

[@DEEPNNN]

Which portable battery booster do you use?

[@EV-olution]

It's a Type-S that I bought at Costco 4 years ago.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Kia, Hyundia have a very poor quality Lead Acid Battery, even my 2020 Kia Soul EV Limited, I had that die 5 times and the last time I brought it to Kia, even after going completely dead 5 times, they charged it up and said it was fine. I replaced that one after 1 year with a Quality AGM and it is still going strong at almost 5 years and 100K KM.

[@EV-olution]

Yep. That has been my experience.

[@sprockkets]

Wanna feel even worse? Kia put in agm batteries from the factory for higher end gas models. I have one in my 2017 model. It was dead on the lot when I bought it, yet lasted 7 years. It might have lasted longer if I didn't get a niro ev and leave it to die due to never driving it.

[@hiosdiosni]

The new 2024 EV6s have mechanical buttons instead of tactile buttons for the air conditioning

[@EV-olution]

I don't know where you saw that, but all photos and videos of the new EV6 shows that it has the same multi-function touch panel below the center air vents, like in the current EV6. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJKQh3uXqNScqMksi=qYy4YkpSKw5I_qbx&t=422

​@@EV-olutionI just got my new 2024 EV6 and I can confirm, that I was really surprised that it has these mechanical buttons for seat and steering wheel heating.

[@EV-olution]

For the seats and steering yes, but not the HVAC like the person above stated.

[@johncarson1427]

does the car have a trip planner that shows charging location on route like a Tesla

[@EV-olution]

The car does show charging stations and even tells you if you plan a trip beyond the range of the vehicle and offers a charging stop.

[@ChrysanthosKanari]

Anyone knows if point number 7 is addressed on the new ev6 facelift?

[@EV-olution]

I am very confident that the refreshed EV6 will have Android Auto navigation prompts in the HUD because the new EV6 has the new ccNC infotainement system. This is an educated guess since I have the new EV6 is not in Canada yet, but I am pretty confident about it since the EV9 has it.

[@ChrysanthosKanari]

@@EV-olutionthank you. Let’s hope it has it since I am now just waiting for it to arrive :)

[@EV-olution]

@@ChrysanthosKanari to reassure you, I am 99.99% sure the 2025 refresh EV6 has it 😎

[@richardmartineau4501]

I dont speak english... I'll do my best! I dont understand why Kia doesn't have an option to put the vehicle in «brakes clean» position to permit us to clean or to replace brake pads without having a message in the dash that oblige us to go to the dealer to have an computer reset... Brakes are the last parts that mechanic lovers can have maintenance once or twice a year ... Do you know a manner to avoid having such error messages in the computer when we clean brakes? Is removing the negative pole of the battery is a good manner to avoid computer detecting the difference before and after cleaning or replacing brake pads...? Tat's the same for rear electric brakes... I know there is a lot of $$$ that the dealers doesn't want to loose but I am searching a way to avoid going to the dealer for a such simple operation as cleaning brakes! Thank you for your answer positive or not. PS: I will apply your suggestion to have a battery pack in case of the Kia battery fails... I already change the battery but I wasn't thinking t will occurs again with the new one...

[@EV-olution]

Bonjour Richard. Étant donné que je suis québécois c'est correct de me poser vos questions en français, mais pour le bénéfice des autres je vais répondre à votre commentaire en anglais. Unfortunately I don't know of a method that would allow you to put the car into brake service mode, or how to clear the code after you have done the service. Have you considered trying the Carly OBD device and app? It is a diagnostic tool that I have seen other KZbinrs use for gas cars, but don't know if it also applies to EVs since I don't have or use it. Merci d'avoir écouté ma vidéo, j'apprécie.

[@richardmartineau4501]

@@EV-olution J'ai déjà un scanner OBD2 qui me sert encore à effacer les «check engine» et autres codes qui s'affichent de temps en temps sur ma Volvo XC70 2015 quand quelque chose ne va pas... je l'ai essayé sur la EV6 GT-Line 2 2023 que je possède depuis peu mais rien à faire... ça ne fonctionne pas... s'il existait un lecteur-EFFACEUR de codes pour la EV6 à un prix abordable je serais franchement intéressé. Aussi, sur ma Volvo il y a plusieurs «trucs» pour effacer des codes ou encore faire un «refresh» dans l'ordinateur de la voiture quand on change la batterie par exemple... Si vous entendez parler de tels «trucs» ce serait super de nous les partager! Merci beaucoup de votre prompte réponse!

[@EV-olution]

@richardmartineau4501 je crois que le problème avec l'outil que vous utilisez présentement est son âge versus l'âge de la EV6, donc nécessiterait une mise à jour si disponible. Je vous suggère de contacter Carly OBD par leur site web pour demander pour la compatibilité avec la EV6. Carly est un outil que beaucoup de gros KZbinrs utilisent, donc j'imagine que c'est bon.

[@PierreVilleneuve88]

Not only it lacks Wireless Android Auto, It has wireless phone charging, which is useless since you have to plug the phone for AA !!

[@EV-olution]

And the wireless charging pad heats the phone up quite a bit. I deactivated the wireless charging pad.

[@PierreVilleneuve88]

@@EV-olution I have deactivated wireless charging too on the 1st day. The phone is plugged for AA anytway. I have changed my GT-Line 2 for a GT in April. It's an absolute blast to drive but I miss the auto-down mirror on backup, the ventilated seats and lumbar support.

[@EV-olution]

@@PierreVilleneuve88 ah! Nice to know that the dipping mirrors are not in the GT. I had not considered that, but it makes sense since the dipping mirror feature is attached to the electric seat memory buttons.

[@nelsonoliveira1007]

If you Ceramic coat the car you won't have to worry about the glossy plastic fading.

[@EV-olution]

The issue is more about the damage from road debris and scratches. The fading is partially because of it being "sandblasted" in the winter or on a road that has a good abount of debris/gravel. Also, the video is not able to show it, but all of my gloss black plastic has spiderweb scratches even though I wash my car by hand, with 2 buckets and 2 wash mits. The only way to really prevent this is to wrap everything in 3M.

[@guysmiley7289]

number 1 could be a pro

[@EV-olution]

Yes, it depends on your preference. I would prefer it be persistent over a power cycling of the car 😎

[@guysmiley7289]

@@EV-olution i mean annoying your wife

[@EV-olution]

😆😂😆

[@thevideoark]

Wouldn’t your power bank degrade when charging it to 100% and leaving it for months without discharging or charging it.

[@EV-olution]

You would think so, but I have had this little 90$ pack in my car for 4 years and it is still going strong.

[@domcento]

No i charge 100% every time year on no degregation here kia set it 100% maybe different in different countries.

[@domcento]

Petty hardly woth complaining more just for content creating.

[@sylvaingoupil5909]

Great video... But you did not talk about the lack of rear wiper on the EV6. I own a 2024 IONIC 5 without a rear wiper and it's a problem... It keep dust and get dirty very fast and often. I Can't imagine what it will be this winter when it snow and driving in city. And I get the gravel /salt problem because I live in Laval and in province of Quebec weather can be rough on paints. Havin a ppf film is an investment for the front parts of all vehicles now. Finally... did you get the antirust protection like Antirouille Métropolitain because Hyundai told me not to do it because of the wires in the doors. I had a Nissan Leaf 2016 for 8 years and it was never a problem but now all manufacturer say it should not be done to protect the wires... SERIOUSLY...

[@svenskenh644]

This is not an issue with the EV6. It does not need it. It is a must for Ioniq 5 though

[@EV-olution]

The EV6 rear is designed like a sedan and has no need for a rear wiper. I have not had to clean the rear window since getting it new in March 2022. The Ioniq 5 rear design is standard hatchback, very vertical, and requires a rear wiper. I was surprised it did not have one when it came out and Hyundai has corrected the issue by adding a rear wiper to the 2025 model year. Regarding rust protection, it can be done, but not by any old company. I made a video about the subjet explaining everything: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIm9gXaVqK2MaNEsi=ClLkDTuBAj0m7SEn

[@michaelriecher5632]

Jesus why would you buy the car with black shiny trim if you hate it so bad. I’m so sick of reviewers bitching about shiny black trim .

[@EV-olution]

In late 2021 there were no EV6 in Canada. I was one of the first 200 people in Canada to order and receive one in early 2022 and did not have the privilege of driving the car for several days or living with it before buying it. It was a buy-it-or-lose-it situation and the car suited my needs, loved the look of the car, and had no experience with exterior gloss black plastic, so I bought it. I made this video after 2.5 years of ownership and if you watched the full video, and not just the segment about the gloss plastic, you would know that I love my EV6 and that I said it is the best car I have owned in 35 years of owning cars. This video is simply a list of things I believe Kia could do better on. Thanks for watching and have a great day.

[@atorbtech]

That car looks pristine for an 87,000km driven machine. Shut up and stop whining.

[@EV-olution]

You are aware that any car in picutres and video looks amazing as compared to real life right? There is no way to capture the actual issue in video. As for comment telling me to shut up, I am sure your parents are really proud of your manners towards strangers. Do you walk up to strangers in the street and tell them to shut up? That is essentially what you did here. Have a great day, I hope someone makes you smile today because you seem like an angry and unhappy person.

[@atorbtech]

@@EV-olution "shut and keep .." is used very often these days, its not meant in a bad tone. Apologies if you felt hurt.

[@EV-olution]

@atorbtech thank you, I appreciate it.

[@danielsidaway719]

The 12 volt battery problem is common amongst all EV's, especially where it gets cold, and it is not practical to use a battery tender when the car is not in use. Until manufacturers find a way to use the existing charge port to not only charge the high amperage batteries, but also the 12 volt battery, EV owners will be swapping out a lot of batteries. Oh, and if you own a Tesla, for example, good luck getting into the car if the 12 volt battery is dead. The technology has a ways to go before I buy an EV. Another troubling thing is that Hydro Quebec is raising the rates for homes with high power usage. In the end, I think a hydrocarbon powered vehicle will be more economical.

[@sprockkets]

Why would you think the car couldn't charge the 12v battery from the charge port, unless you mean when it is dead.

[@EV-olution]

I think you are misunderstanding what I described in this video. I am aware that the 12V battery is an issue for many EVs, I even say that in the video. Regarding the device I have on my 12V battery, it is not a battery tender, it is a Bluetooth monitor that makes graphs to show the state of charge, like I showed in the video. It does not do anything other than read the battery voltage. On the subject of the 12V battery being charged, I don't think you have a full understanding of how the technology works. It is not feasible, nor does it make sense to charge a 12V battery via the charge port. The 12V battery is maintained by hardware in the car, that converts high voltage from the car's main battery to 12V power for the 12V battery. The issue with the 12V in the e-GMP platform is/was related to a software issue and/or the inverter, which is what adjusts the voltage between the batteries when the 12V needs power. The fix for the issue seems like a simple programming issue, but an EV is an incredibly complex thing and the interrelation of components and software make it more difficult than what simply adding a line of code. As for your statement about Hydro Québec and the cost, all you have to do is look at the cost of a full charge versus the cost of a full tank of fuel to understand that your statement is not correct. My car costs 7$ to charge from 0% to 100%. An equivalent gas car fill-up is about 90$ from empty. If Hydro were to increase the cost of electricity by 13x, the issue would not be that the EV costs the same to "fill", the issue is that the economy would collapse because people could not afford electricity. Multiply your house electricity bill by 13 and let me know if you think Hydro would even be allowed by the governement to do that. Also, this question only considers cost of electicity vs gas and does not even factor in a gas car cost of maintenance that is much higher than an EV (oil changes, brakes, mufflers, etc). There is an excellent book that just came out and was written by Daniel Breton, that I strongly suggest. You can get it here: emc-mec.ca/news-post/50-myths-and-half-truths-about-electric-vehicles/#:~:text=Written%20by%20EMC's%20President%20%26%20CEO,industry%2C%20journalists%20and%20elected%20officials.

[@JohnCap523]

IPedal isn’t intended to be used as a default driving mode. If you want that, buy a fascist Tesla. What is missing is an AGM 12v battery which is what they were prototyped with. Don’t install standard lead acid batteries.

[@EV-olution]

As shown in the video, I did install an AGM 12V battery.

[@JohnCap523]

@@EV-olution I saw

[@marcgrondin65]

a fascist Tesla .. is there a tyrannical Toyota, a democratic Dodge, a socialist Subaru or a capitalist Cadillac ;- )

[@JohnCap523]

@@marcgrondin65 No but there’s a fascist funded by Tesla money, and if you don’t think Musk is a fascist you’re either naive, under a rock, or a fascist fanboi yourself. Take a walk through what Twitter has been turned into. Listen to him and his politics. Maybe you’d enjoy living in another Hungary, or worse.