The Psychology of Spitfire Campers

After extensive scientific testing, Frontier Geographic host MoDen31 attempts to explain the psychology behind these fascinating creatures.
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[@IniquityGames]

Now do Monarch mains.

[@MoDen31]

A dark and treacherous path I must walk… deep into the mind of a mad man

[@theclawhammerkid7603]

I’m a gen 4 monarch main. Why is that unliked? I’m genuinely asking 😂 Edit: I know I’m a noob for being gen 4…

[@eddieg4858]

*Consume 🔋🔋🔋*

[@epeliz2243]

I just like bt and monarch is closest to vanguard class titan so the choice was pretty simple.

[@evias9943]

Easy enough: Food. done

[@lopezlopez7775]

I wanna say for everyone we need more frontier geographic

[@sharkladtm2264]

Agree

[@xejdikmiecik4137]

Totally true

[@boonytooth115]

i agree,it reminds me of a video about the other tf2 with pyrosharks and gibus engies,man it was fun to watch

[@rpgadhd5502]

Yup

[@vodkavodka8903]

We need it as a series

[@thefirehydrationunit5887]

The creature known as Homo campuis is a bipedal creature native the the planets of the frontier. These creatures are rarely ever seen due to them living in remote areas, and by using camouflage to their advantage. The Homo Campuis has been known to hunt their pray from a distance, and often when encounter up close, it will retreat into a submissive or defense state where it either runs away, or uses an amped wall for safety. Their main predator, Homo Grappuls differs from the Campuis by the way it hunts it’s pray. The Homo Grappuls will often charge its pray with unrelenting force, and will often result in Grappuls catching its pray. The Homo Grappuls is the main predator to the Homo Campuis, and have been hunting them for millions of years.

[@thefirehydrationunit5887]

@M.M.A.C thank you

[@mjwlol]

gold

[@thefirehydrationunit5887]

@@mjwlol thank you

[@Helena-me6mp]

perfection!

[@bigballzmcdrawz2921]

I read that in David Attenborough's voice.

[@eggbulb]

I have actually had the rare honor of saving a spitfire camper. I told them about how the game isn’t designed for that, and it ends up being more fun by staying on the move. Months later, I found the same player several times. He now mains Stim and Flatline.

[@Fellaz-cd8ch]

You did a great thing, Pilot.

[@Spartanwall]

at least he doesn't main the car XD that weapon is getting old

[@calibvr]

yo eggbulb its been a while

[@ProcyonLotorGaming]

0:33 I was literally thinking about this yesterday. This video was absolutely amazing. Got a good laugh

[@MoDen31]

I’m so glad!

[@TheWetToaster]

So spitfire campers are basically koala bears? Where they die of starvation because they don’t recognize eucalyptus leaves as food when it’s off the branch, and all they had to do was pick it up and eat it? Yeah that’s an accurate comparison

[@takokng5671]

Close the only difference is that the koala moves more, but some spitfire campers still eat shit like koalas. All in all pretty close assumptions.

[@ravenwarjoy]

I distinctly remember one time when I took the spitfire into my hands. For a while, I played the game as intended, running and gunning. But at some point, for no reason at all, I simply grappled up to a tall point and started raining fire in all directions while sitting completely still. This hasn't happened since, but it made me convinced - it's the weapon. It... speaks to you. It whispers dark things. And while some can resist it's temptation for some time, but not everyone, and not all the time.

[@ImNotArian]

I used a spitfire once back in the day when I was like G2 (or G3) Cus There was someone else with a spitfire on the enemy team (If I remember correctly) And I never touched it again after that.

[@giorgosotuposapotofrontist4992]

same

[@AxisCorpsRep]

if that happens i use a kraber, because A) i suck with it, so ironically they make it easier, and B) if i can kill them more effectively with a gun i suck at, this by metric makes them even worse players

[@giorgosotuposapotofrontist4992]

@@AxisCorpsRep Were you ever in a discord server named ghost lounge ? Because I was in that server and I think I saw your name there

[@AxisCorpsRep]

@@giorgosotuposapotofrontist4992 my memory sucks, so, probably, but not that i can confirm

[@WayoftheFerret]

I used it in Titanfall 2 (it's fine in Titanfall 1) just to get it to gen 2 for my "everything to gen 2" challenge I still haven't finished, and that's it. I can't stand using it; not for any "I feel so dirty" reasons, I just hate how it feels and plays.

[@thesheepylord8744]

I got into an argument with a Spitfire A-wall, Smart Pistol, and Tone user who tried to justify that they require skill to use. I executed both him and his titan (i play Scorch) every chance i could. He rage quit. Anyways, great video!!

[@blizzardgaming7070]

Ah a scorch user. No wonder his tone got obliterated. Scorch is well balanced, just stay as far away from me as a northstar.

[@shawngraves2937]

He had the annoying kit in his blood.

[@dalegendarymonke8921]

A yes,As you can see, It will take great skill to use a weapon that locks onto enemies and 1 hits them

[@KaReaper73456]

@@blizzardgaming7070 that's accualy bad because northstar can still shoot accurately and deal lots of damage, plus if you get too close we can easily fly away or run 👌

[@blizzardgaming7070]

@@KaReaper73456 but scorch can’t, that’s the point I was making.

[@Aspenox]

Dude. Had a good laugh. Thanks for that

[@MoDen31]

That’s the goal! Thanks for commenting Aspenox :)

[@vulkan5790]

I’m currently regening every weapon and run and gunning with the spitfire its actually really REALLY fun. Too bad the most people who use this thing camp

[@peterhiser7883]

Yeah, it's a great moble mid-long range weapon, although if you are in a close encounter, It's best to switch to your side weapon as spitfire cannot hipfire and so becomes shitfire.

[@caseytenebris1979]

Yes thank you it's like parkour with a minigun it's great

[@caseytenebris1979]

​@@peterhiser7883half the kills I get are hip fire slides man ya gotta *BELIEVE*

[@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025]

​@@caseytenebris1979THIS MAN GETS IT

[@MIKEREW]

"This is the first battle with spitfire campers of many, but for the first time, we can truly hope for victory." Vice Admiral Marcus Graves

[@weshu1111]

Once, someone sitting still with a kraber called me a spitfire camper. I was moving around the entire map with the thing, how the fuck--

[@jimmyshak8915]

This is all true. But sadly "good" players who know the game and the movement that use the spitfire sadly get grouped into this category you speak of. The spitfire is extremely good at mid to long range. But in my honest opinion, it is just not viable at close range. I lose so many gun fights up close with the spit that is has brought me to believe it's more balanced then it may seem. But this is of course if the spit is being used by a player that actually moves.

[@jimmyshak8915]

@TheSovietOnion l why?

[@abell8533]

Meh. I use it and move. I dont know why people cry about this gun ,its available to anyone .

[@huggablegrunt6120]

@TheSovietOnion l did you know if you hit all your shots with a spitty mag you can kill up towards 25 pilots with a single mag

[@georgeousthegorgeous]

@@huggablegrunt6120 umm reload takes no time soo it's useless skill

[@huggablegrunt6120]

@@georgeousthegorgeous yea its not practical just a interesting fact

[@alexrva433]

You know, I always wondered...is it a bad thing to use the A-Wall for its intended purpose? I've considered "alternative strategies" for it such as to give titans an amplifier for their damage should a titan-eye-height cover be present, or putting it in front of a turret and going on with my day, or even putting it in a doorway and firing a Devotion at the crit zones of a titan, but I've never wanted to just...sit there with an A-Wall and a Devotion and start shooting people as that feels cheap, even though that's the intended purpose of the A-Wall as far as I'm concerned.

[@metagamer1341]

A-wall is for breaking damage breakpoints, especially against titans, doing MASSIVE damage

[@mej6519]

in david attenbrough's voice, "and now, here we have the spitfire camper in his natural habbitat, secure in his knowledge that he cant be seen, happy with his life, untill,,,," . love the forntier geographic format, more please man.

[@deathtrooper199]

I used to play around with the spitfire just only the sound. Usually i just run around as cloak pilot dropkicking people rather than camping because staying in one spot it's going to get you killed all the time without learning anything.

[@velrisa_]

Dude when I started watching you, you were at 3.1k now your at almost 9k congrats man keep on trucking

[@MoDen31]

Thanks Velrisa! Glad to have you along for the ride

[@Metaretru]

The Psychology of A-Wall campers especially Spitfire campers is because the combination is...effective? 2 shot and you're killing someone without even giving them a chance to fight back. You also need an extra effort to counter them when the wall is still active which is annoying, my lad often call those campers "Little Tone" lol.

[@ArtekGeneral]

An A-wall enthusiast here. Don't always camp, but sometimes do - proudly so. Reasons? Multiple ones. For once, i'm not good at moving and aiming simultaneously. I tend to perform better when i completely remove my left hand from keyboard and devote 99% of my brain power to just aiming via mouse. 1% is left for essential needs like breathing (could be rerouted too?) Two: i have a natural inclination for heavy "firepower at the cost of speed" characters no matter the game. This also has aesthetic element to it, for i also prefer simply larger characters - a criteria A-wall man fits perfectly. Three: sometimes i'm just lazy and can't be bothered. I just relax, forget that "shift" button exists and just casually stroll my way to the objective. This actually helps too, because in this relaxed state i find it easier to spot and react to moving targets that appear in my FoV. Could be some form of ADHD. That being said i do acknowledge that this isn't a particularly virtuous mode of existence, so i try to not abuse A-wall too much, sometimes going entire matches without using it or exclusively using as a self-defense mechanism, only deploying when already under heavy fire. Which more often than not results in me dying before A-wall touches the ground. But when it does work and i kill the offender as he struggles to finish off my last 1% of HP - boy does it feel good.

[@slipstreammuzzle]

i can confirm these facts, as i have ran into countless spitfire campers during my time playing titanfall 2

[@WildWolf-pu4pj]

I learned so much about this interesting creature, very informative.

[@Geicoenforcer]

Nice doggo

[@thanus6636]

0:40 Tbh I actually often think those dudes on the ground are grunts, but I pass by so quickly they can’t kill me.

[@MoDen31]

Speed is life

[@thanus6636]

@@MoDen31 I’ve got em in the pipe, 5x5.

[@justsomeguy1923]

I wanna see a documentary like this on holo-pilot mains.

[@MoDen31]

They are exceedingly rare and nocturnal. It will take a while to study them properly 📝🧐

[@justsomeguy1923]

@@MoDen31 fair enough

[@winterstarlight3418]

O H. M Y. G O S H. THIS IS GOLD!! I'd LOVE go see more of these!! They likely use the Spitfire as it is the most damage and they have evolved to bite from the shadows. This the most effective weapon to do so is Spitfire.

[@MoDen31]

THANK YOU CIRRUS YOU GEM OF A HUMAN 💎 Definitely doing more!

[@winterstarlight3418]

@@MoDen31 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU'RE WELCOME!! And S W E E T!! I am SO looking forward to more Frontier Geographic!

[@blizzardgaming7070]

“Most damage” “bite from the shadows” have you heard of the mastiff cloak combo.

[@exponent2226]

I used a fourth option the CAR

[@Italian_Isaac_Clarke]

Hi. I am a Scorch main. I've never used anything else other than Scorch in all the time that I played Titanfall 2, so I'm even unable to easily learn other titan's powers buttons. I played a little of Legion for FD, and sometimes picked NorthStar, but I can do not that much, even compared to just using Scorch. Idk why it is, but it would be interesting to know. Maybe you can do a video with this style about those who "main" either just one titan or one precise playstyle.

[@jumpingmoose5554]

I'll never feel bad for using the smart pistol. The online hate for it motivates me more, but I also like amped weapons & map hack. I switch to keep variety.

[@xxradd2515]

you like ruining a masterpiece of a game?

[@zenphir9051]

You’re forgetting that natural campers always seek out higher ground before camping.

[@zsupper]

just a few games ago i encounter such species I couldn't understand their behaviour but this video makes it clearer

[@WaffleMakerDud]

I don't always use Spitfire but when i do I'm in the Middle of the Action not Cowering off to the Side

[@jakecovert2528]

As a spitfire camper previously unaware of Frontier Geographic this man must have insider knowledge cause this was accurate af

[@itsaprune7718]

As a creature of camping with spitboi, I have evolved to move with a stimboi. Within a few days of playing.

[@brofrogscool1121]

Clearly spitfire camping is top tier skill

[@GreenNinja-]

I personally think that the Spitfire is like a fungus, as you mentioned, but like the fungus Ophio Cordyceps, it only affects a specific order of pilots, that being the order that includes Cloak and A-Wall pilots. It gets into there system via spores and it takes over their brains, then (like Ophio Cordyceps) it forces the pilot to look for an area with the perfect conditions

[@woodedledger3997]

Even their physical appearance adapted, how fascinating

[@mothman8300]

The last few weeks of playing there has seemingly been a vast surge in the number of spitfires and cars. Won't be long before I feel people start saying they are doing more harm to the game than the hackers. They can take the game down, but that just makes us want to play more. But these people make it so you don't want to play at all.

[@adamantbrandob7188]

How are you playing I get kicked halfway through each game?

[@jimbomclimbo7467]

Hey what do people think about the eva 8?

[@mothman8300]

@@jimbomclimbo7467 Eva 8 is strong, but not hated.

[@finnanimations1334]

What makes a dangerous combo if you ask me? A double take main, a grapler main with the urge to shoot anything that moves

[@ianhuskins2491]

It’s the weight of the gun and the rambo feeling you get from the spitfire, I personally do use the movement system to get even more kills and have fun but if i hate the world i pop out the shield

[@Generalburnout]

Oh we're in for a treat if it's about to be a whole series

[@sangheiliblademan6021]

Next you need to go into the phycology of grapple mains, because me a stim main can’t comprehend why they enjoy launching themselves into the stratosphere at break neck speeds. Any time I ask a grapple main about this they refuse to elaborate

[@MoDen31]

They watched too much spider man as a kid

[@sangheiliblademan6021]

@@MoDen31 damn, that simple?

[@allosaurusgaming937]

This is an animal planet level documentary

[@peterhiser7883]

As a spitfire main I must say that I do not agree- I use grapple to quickly get to and from camping spots, switching about once a minute when people become wise of the area or when other pilots aren't in season.

[@hellhound74]

I laugh for whenever anyone uses a spitfire in my game I immediately drop my loadout and change to my kraber loadout to repeatedly stomp the spitfire user into the ground

[@NikkoNikko98]

I’ve learned more from Frontier Geographic than I have from all my time in college 🥴

[@immatheloser2401]

I hate flying as fast as I can, and them we have a sentry gun with 3x scope stopped on the roofs of somewhere invisible..

[@stupidflandrs4856]

Okay this is hilarious, please please please make more of these

[@SillyCoyotee]

Bring this series back.❤

[@mwhalfmann]

If I grab the spitfire I'm either in the mood to do a little trolling or I'm about to become sweatier than a high school locker room in the swamps of Louisiana when the AC is out

[@derptomistic]

Would semi-regularly run into the same guy who would camp with a G2 and quit the moment he got killed. What really scared me about him was that despite that he was gen 100...

[@nef36]

Not even an hour ago I switched to the Kraber so i could shoot a Spitfire player camping on the giant antenna on Exoplanet. There also happened to be like two other Spitfire campers in the lobby.

[@michaeldonnelly7256]

No need...just carry a charge rifle

[@nef36]

@@michaeldonnelly7256 I have literally never managed to get a pilot kill with that thing in my 80 hours of Titanfall XD

[@michaeldonnelly7256]

@@nef36 damn, lol

[@tiranus5861]

this is probably my favourite titanfall 2 video

[@oasis-j]

Hell yeah, new TF2 content that isn’t just complaining about TF2 servers being down

[@keithpod123]

"No you see, the spitfire camper must evolve and adapt to the bloodthirsty predators of the jungle, then they start camping to pick off easy targets for food beacause otherwise would be predators if they weren't camping." David attenborough

[@bommeryeet4982]

I’m happy you enjoyed making this, BECAUSE THIS IS AMAZING

[@tero8971]

I camped for about a week to get used to 'krabing at different ranges. Pretty helpful.

[@rodionpohodnia3905]

I have a theory that camper is not an animal lifeform, but a highly developed plant or mushroom lifeforn

[@paradoxfox2440]

0:43 I have played like 1000+ hours of apex and I agree

[@Pipebomb69]

don't forget about how campers will use their new. founded powers to summon the giant camper tone

[@Kreozot2D]

There is an old russian saying - the grave will fix the hunchback. As soon as I spot any sort of camper on a level I take it as my personal responsibility to deliver them to the grave with my titan, my frag grenades, my firestar and my mobility. Practice shows that when spitfire camper is met with circumstances when they don't have enough time to set the camp, they will either leave their camp or leave the server. If they leave the camp, just find the next camp using the audio cues of spitfire gunshots and repeat until the spitfire camper leaves the server or is forced to choose other tactics. To be honest, I have TF2 on two platforms but played almost exclusively on PC and on European servers. I didn't have problems with these species, and found them rare. But whenever I want to have fun at the cost of others being angry, I prefer cloak/DMR with 3 sentry turrets, which is especially fun on maps like new colony, forward base kodai and, of course, angel city, with some high points suitable for spreading cancer all around the map from high rooftops suitable for sentry turret placement. I find Spitfire to be inferior to DMR in this way, especially with DMR's ability to grind through titans and kill pilots across the map in one or two hits. Pilots, as soon as you find yourself on the server with spitfire or any other sort of camper, be sure to deliver your foot straight to their face with high velocity and melee autoaim precision. The hunt is on.

[@boi_mari7871]

I personally think that it depends on what they play on, for example: on console movement is difficult without back buttons. It is night and day.

[@boi_mari7871]

I personally never really camped, but was mostly limited to the ground. So I can see why players would camp.

[@adeptusdripstartes]

I remember when I used the Spitfire. But I also use it like a normal Titanfall player and didn't camp. I've evolved to running around with the devotion.

[@christiansanchez1486]

“Or the player tries to get bud and decide to watch iniquity videos” lol had me rolling

[@mezarisage6055]

I've used the spitfire but I didn;t camp with it, I mostly used it like a heavier assault rifle or SMG that you never have to reload.

[@caseytenebris1979]

I'm getting back into tf2 and running around like an excited cat with the grapple, sliding, all that jazz and using the spitfire after trying it this time and liking how it feels (if not a little unwieldy after a second on the trigger with ads). I ended up getting flak from a few players about using it and one said "cuz all spitfire mains camp behind your a-walls on the other side of the map"...but I'm using grapple, fuck half my kills are slide close-quarter kills. So me and him chilled out and talked a little abt it, this whole time I thought it was just an isolated thing with him and the other couple people just didn't like it. I never realized it was a thing, dear lord.

[@ritveekrana8330]

Nice. Pls make one about Ronin/Monarch who always steal our titan kills

[@hoppy78]

I love dis so much Edit: we need a titanfall 2 food chain

[@Krankify]

"Protective carapace" got me

[@AwfexArts]

Frontier geographic should be a series.

[@MoDen31]

It’ll be one :)

[@codybrown3526]

Spitefire and Devo are my least used weapons and I can’t be more proud of myself

[@Vuadanee]

please for the love of god do more of these

[@SkyRaider-31]

I use the spitfire with the wingman and thunderbolt pilot Is grapple Boost is dice roll Im pretty sure I'm a scumbag despite going mach 5 all over

[@The.Earl.of.Pudding]

as a spitfire main, I am ashamed to be lumped together with such types of people

[@howaboutno7429]

As a fellow spitfire main that doesn't have cement shoes I agree

[@emirelidemir8447]

As a spitfire camper if its fun to use then ım gona use it

[@TheSuperSpud]

On xbox you mostly get spitfire campers with grapple to get to higher spots or AR campers with cloak to hide in corners it sucks because it's not even the stereotype

[@2A_ROCKS_]

My spitfire is level 1. (Plus I’ve only used cloak and a-wall for executions)

[@Meme___Lord]

Ive noticed that most campers have high hours counts on games such as CoD and apex, very movemnt based games, but when they move to a movement centered game such as TF2 they simply cannot keep up and revert back to no movement and simply camp

[@daftmi9hty327]

It amazes me that people camp in titan fall a game when you can book it at mach 5 across the battlefield and dunk on people they decide to sit in a corner get one kill and then the person they killed just launched them selves at the camper and blew his fist through the back of there head

[@predatorjungle1327]

I do use smart pistol but I save up the charges and never activate it unless I get killed by someone using it and then its payback time.

[@timotheygoodwin9667]

I use the spitfire with the awall and firestar on one of my loadouts but, i use them on the move as a kind of crowd control type/ titan suppression. When finding a pilot I'll bust out the awall kill the pilot and then get on the move again. i honestly have a loadout for each of the tactical abilities and i try to use them pretty evenly. though there are certain loadouts that are better in certain modes (my spitfire loadout and Scorch on bounty hunt ftw)

[@ketchard]

I believe it's because of the lack of love and affection by the camper's parents during and before its juvenile stage

[@gaso3035]

Not a spitfire camper but Tbh "it's in the game I'm going to use it" is a fair point

[@cameronoakes7382]

This came out while I was in my psychology class

[@theholopilot]

Saw a G70 the other day. Got really excited and jumped on the holo pilot. He played amped spitfire the whole time (-__-)

[@northstargaming6128]

Be like a speedy boi Moden31-2021

[@MoDen31]

Speed is life

[@northstargaming6128]

@@MoDen31 yesh

[@sennac115]

spitfire campers: no thoughts, head empty

[@pyrochan-bj6im]

G20 and have kept my spitfire untouched and I intend on keeping it that way

[@lukeboughton5296]

I make it my personal responsibility to execute every spitfire awall I see - the a-wall makes it nice and obvious which side their back is

[@MoDen31]

Don’t forget the complementary tbag!

[@realscooby-doo]

I use spitfire as a cloak pilot " I like taking batteries for my team" BUT, I have always and will never use a tone titan. I have reached regen for Ion, Northstar, Ronin, and Monarch but will NEVER use tone.

[@grahomir2706]

This is your best video so far

[@MoDen31]

Thank you Grahomir!

[@void6570]

Sometimes I do be camping but I usually play aggressively

[@ilikegiantrobots1775]

Imagine using only one weapon, I try to change my load out every game

[@cliffysilver6612]

I used the g2 due to its decent close range reliability and long range ability to deal with spitfires and krabers

[@ExponentSky2669]

This study is absolutely fascinating

[@1752Alex]

Honestly think Respawn goofed up by making a Pilot ability like A-wall dependant on standing still to be used effectively

[@hazeyknight4206]

As a holo pilot main, I see this as an absolute win.

[@darkvendetta9966]

I use the smart pistol because it is fun and I get to feel like jack Cooper at the end of the titanfall 2 campaign.

[@nikolapaunovic9909]

Same specimens who play Gibraltar with a spitfire in Apex legends.

[@that_one_helljumper]

Grapple pilot + increased ammo spitfire + electric smoke= the perfect breaching device/anti camper equipment

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

I used the Spitfire to destroy the Spitfire

[@bean10cabarita96]

What about the hemlock on controller it doesn't matter what ability you have that combo is crazy

[@philipgriffiths9686]

This is honestly marvellous