Modern Cube Draft | Channel LSV

[@Kryptnyt]

"I will not be picking Phyrexian Obliterator" How much more can my heart take

[@IonicHawk]

I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU! LSV picking good blue cards? That literally never happens! What's next? Reid Duke playing Jund?

[@zackestin1368]

Reid dukes pet deck is technically soul sisters.

[@Minastir1]

Apparently cube mastery is forcing your favorite deck instead of playing what's open, I see.

[@codetaku]

Hey, if you can signal hard enough to get the good cards for your favorite deck, more power to you. Sometimes I imagine that people see LSV in their cube and then just decide in advance to not go blue.

[@Herman-oy2tm]

Yeah, more LSV, more forcing Blue.

[@ThePedro1233]

Really impressed with you drafted and played this. Thanks for the great content LSV

[@sethh.1704]

Hey LSV, just wanted to say that I was super impressed with your commentary in this video. You did a really excellent job explaining different lines and it was super informative :)

[@colleenkragen3320]

"Kind of just in to Ancestral Visions", you don't say.

[@testthewest123]

Glad you tried something new and went for blue right away!

[@mrmagongus]

"Hey you idiot, thanks for playing good creatures" dead XD

[@bolt3_095]

Adam Gagan when did he say that? Timestamp please 😂

[@twitchster77]

He says it towards the end at 01:22:20 lol

[@harrywheldon207]

"Maybe we go blue white or blue whatever" every draft ever

[@ProdigalExplorer]

Good blue cards are good

[@r2dezki]

I loved the first minute of it.

[@twitchster77]

You passed up on a beautiful mono black deck!

[@andymion]

No such thing.

[@stoolyman]

And then proceeded to beat up on said mono black deck

[@RW77777777]

I think he has a list of black playables in cube and it's like 4 cards long. Thoughtseize, Bitterblossom, Pack Rat & Dismember if for some reason you ended up with impeccable mana fixing where you could already make GG, WW, RRR you could consider a double black mana spell like Mind Shatter or Mindbender

[@twitchster77]

I drafted a mono black in this cube a week or so ago...and man, it was a blast! Tons of awesome creatures, tons of great removal and some good planeswalkers. Not only that but I had some draw there too. It helped that I don't think anyone else was taking any of the black in the draft...so I was wielding great cards left and right. 3-0'd the event and had a great time :D.

[@twitchster77]

I lost round 1 haha. Mono black sucks!!! (lol I'm kinding...it's me that sucks >.

[@fishpaw333]

I would have done this cube, but didnt have the points or tix, i just started mtgo like 3 days ago and i love it

[@twitchster77]

Not me! I see LSV is in the draft with me, and I drop! >.

[@RW77777777]

40secs in with the trolling. Please sir may I have another? White tokens seemed nice, Windbrisk, Procession, White Shrine, Odric Karn is the obvious answer to mono red. can't believe they left Massacre Wurm in

[@WiiClassicControler]

BW Tokens was pretty sweet and open.

[@NoRealPattern]

Great draft, but it sadly violated the principle of Chekhov's Rat Ninja, which states that if an Ink-Eyes is introduced in the first act, it must go off by the end of the draft

[@Frogplushy]

A principle first introduced, I believe, by a man *named* Chekhov Rat Ninja, which is a sly as hell name if you think about it.

[@PaxMano33]

“We had first Bribery, yes, it what about second Bribery?”

[@BredToUpset]

Im sorry but in what world is Icy Manipulator better than Tamiyo?

[@RW77777777]

burn immunity, haste creatures, copyable by Phyrexian Metamorph, better artwork, can turn it into a 5/5 with Tezz

[@Spaccaspecchi]

rr ww isn't a weird squidwoman

[@Frogplushy]

The fact that better artwork was on your list makes me want to give you an Emmy.

[@morphling337]

Bribery is so OP.

[@killustrator]

Absolutely shocking that he took the blue draw spell first. Mind fucking blown

[@cbro_]

At 55:00 you could have held up Scatter to the Winds for the Phoenix, then I think your Karn would have been a lot better.

[@nimblelafitte1923]

i come for the magic, but i stay for the magiceno

[@rockymendes8046]

This was a specially sassy day in the house of SV.

[@Arghore]

After seeing two U/W decks drafted by Marshall in a row this was certainly something different ;D ... for a while i feared for another U/W deck, but luckily you managed to keep it mono blue for the most part to keep diversity up ^^ ... bit of a straight forward deck though, fixing, carddraw, removal and finishers, and not even some wacky combo in sight, so not you :/ ... clearly you pulled out all the stops to mix up the presented content ! tnx :)

[@castlewise]

Bribery man. Yeesh.

[@breakdownnn5]

Classic blue/white Cheons.

[@lukep692]

Pack Rat as a 2 mana 1/1 not the best without using the ability. Also Bribery is nuts. Probably still would be nuts at 6.

[@Frogplushy]

I mean, in the last match it was at the very least, a 5 mana spell that cast a 6-drop, killing multiple creatures, nugging the opponent for lethal, and removing one of opp's best threats from their deck. Not value at all. I'll take not activating Pack Rat over any of that all day.

[@HandFullofCheese]

I really would like to see bribery and scarab god out of the cube. Scarab god is just nigh unbeatable unless you're white and have path/o-ring, etc. Lost like 5 cubes to that card so far.

[@lurchwurm]

We're doin it

[@paulm2163]

All the comments not understanding that LSV was trolling them specifically about "new strategy" and "people want to see something different". I'm kind of disappointed that he didn't take the Icefall Regent. I think that card is one of the most disrespected in this cube. It's an evasive, resilient threat that also locks down an opponent's threat and/or blocker. Like it's a better version on Dungeon Geists in every way other than it costs (1) more, but that (1) gets you so much upside.

[@yawgmoth6568]

Deck needed a Wrath. Passing both the ones you saw feels wrong. U/W Control absolutely needs to draft at least one wrath, even more than it needs a few spot removal spells.

[@zzafrica87]

LSV + Cube =

[@killerkurez9233]

People want different content.... Starts with blue cards. Hahaha

[@AntonioGiungato]

why are blue/white decks called chion?

[@utterlyj1277]

Antonio Giungato He's making fun of his friend Paul Cheon, who has a tendency to always draft medium UW tempo or control decks whenever he cubes.

[@AntonioGiungato]

Thanks!

[@clementdanieli6277]

cube list plsssss !!!

[@jimbobjohanssen7993]

pack rat. how does it work???

[@Frogplushy]

It's a 1/1 for 1B that says "Pack Rat's power and toughness are each equal to the number of Rats you control (not specifically Pack Rats, that applies to all creatures with the type Rat), with 2B, Discard a Card for an ability that reads: create a token that's a copy of Pack Rat. Basically you play it on turn 2, activate it on turn 3 and have two 2/2's in play. Turn 4 you would have three 3/3s. Turn 5 is four 4/4's. Basically if his opponent committed to making Pack Rat copies instead of playing his janky other cards, he would have been in a much better position to win.

[@Neth91]

why is he always playing his land last? especially in a meta with "pay x extra"-counter spells

[@Miller11C]

God I love him lol

[@JaJaSei]

hopefully opp doenst play a mountain. thats a mountain, thats a grim.. we're dead :)

[@yougoyougo1427]

People want to see change i lsv am a man of the people and i wil give them what they want!!! Pick blue

[@lylepittman8696]

LSV is blue..

[@DoubleZDogg]

5:29 Picking an off color Whipflare over a Sram's Expertise in a deck with Ancestral Visions, Lingering Souls, Elesh Norn, and Jace? I can't say I agree with this decision.

[@spitfireMCR1]

Srams expertise just isnt what the deck wants to be doing even if he can cast things off of it.

[@DoubleZDogg]

1:15:23 Terrible ordering from the opponent. They're playing against counterspells and don't kill the Massacre Wurm first? Lost them the game right there.

[@utterlyj1277]

Zack Z Ya Sram's Expertise is highly mediocre unless you're like really heavy into tokens with a bunch of anthem effects.

[@yawgmoth5662]

Sram's Expertise can't cast Jace. Only 3 drops or less. Also think of it like this, since it's a 4 drop, you would've already cast your three or less cost cards anyways. Are you really going to not cast Lingering Souls or Compulsive Research on turn 3 and do nothing just to cast it for free a turn later? That makes no sense. It's also double white in a deck with little fixing.

[@qazzaqstan]

My instinct was the Sram's expertise too as it was the most roughly on color, but that would have been very wrong. It doesn't go with his deck and he had enough fixing and was commited enough to (near) mono-blue control that siding in red sweepers was a legit SB plan as seen in match 2. Also regarding your comment on the not killing wurm first, yeah I am super confused about that. I had to double check that wurm doesn't read zombie to see if I was missing something.

[@indefinitedelay]

ay dios that was gross

[@ElvenNoble]

As much as I'm a fan of Luis, I cannot recommend playing like Luis in game 2 of match 3 and putting Elesh Norn and exactly 2 white sources in your deck (though terramorphic and polluted delta for hallowed fountain technically count as 3rd and 4th). I'd suggest replacing an island or two for a plains, especially considering valorous stance was also sided in. All in all great games, and bribery continues to be 3UU "You win the game." Let it also be known that seeing bribery cast with snapcaster was bliss.

[@myztik5716]

He also had Pilgrim's Eye

[@ElvenNoble]

Right, one more source, sure, but the main issue is that if anything happens to either of the real white sources, he can never cast it. 6 sources with 3 of them being actual lands (and not land tutors) seems appropriate. He had quite a bit of times he ended up discarding, either from opponent's effects or to discarding to hand size, so having leeway to discard one of your white sources seems better than being forced to keep both the plains and the hallowed fountain over all else if you ever want to cast Elesh. That's just my opinion, and I'm willing to bet Luis just forgot to reevaluate his mana base when adding back in the white (it happens frequently on MODO), though I could be wrong and it was intentional.

[@myztik5716]

It absolutely was intentional. He will only ever need the white mana to cast Elesh Norn after drawing 6-7 more cards at the very earliest. Until he needs the white to play Lingering Souls barring any other play or play Elesh Norn, drawing a Plains is one of the worst cards in his deck. With a bunch of double blue spells and double blue counterspells he wants all the blue mana he can get. And one of his white sources is also a source of his primary mana base, so it's not as bad as needing to use a white fetch to get a plains. Couple that with the amount of card filtering his deck can do that many white sources was the correct choice. You can't use the discard as an example because he discarded the plains precicely because he didn't need it, if he did obviously his discard choices would change. Finally a hand with two plains in it is a mulligan, there's just no upside with very real downsides

[@ElvenNoble]

Do you read minds? Have you asked him personally and gotten a response? If the answer to both of these is no, I'd advise you not to make false claims, such as "It absolutely was intentional." It just makes you come off as the kind of person who thinks their opinion is fact and superior to everyone else's points of view. I realize that's relatively the norm on the internet, but that doesn't give you an excuse for being part of the problem. (not to mention saying things such as something "was the correct choice.") I'd continue this discussion on how the card filtering is actually why you want the extra plains, but you're clearly not receptive to anything remotely resembling an actual debate, as you seem to prefer toting your own opinion as absolute. I'd love to be wrong on that, but I'm not counting on it.

[@Frogplushy]

While yes, LSV is not infallible - you can see a fair number of drafts where post side-board he has 41 cards in his library - it is entirely reasonable to assume that the choice was intentional. With 2 plains, 1 Pilgrims Eye, 1 Hollowed Fountain, 1 Polluted Delta and 1 Terramorphic Expanse give him mathematically favourable odds to having access to two white mana when he needs it to cast exactly Elesh Norn. You'll see that a lot from his splashes if you check out his vintage cube drafts. The extra plains would be detrimental to a deck that is frequently casting BBX spells throughout the game. 15% of the cards in his deck (6/40) is being put towards casting 2.5% of the cards in his deck (1/40). He's not in need of getting that number in the neighbourhood of 20 or 25%, it would be too much disruption to his BB cards for too little gain, seeing as he's relatively unlikely to ever see the Elesh Norn. (Yes, even through all that card draw, it is just more likely that he never sees it than does). There isn't enough land destruction nor random discard spells (ie. discard spells that make you discard at random) to cause his deck to reflect that. As a further note, I would recommend that you avoid concluding your arguments by attacking your opposition ad hominem. It only discredits what might have been an otherwise valid point. Your frame of reference for Myztik's argument is a single paragraph. Moreover, it's a single sentence within a single paragraph. It would be more congruent to at least conclude another statement before you completely disregard everything he has said because the content creator has set a precedent for this behavior in the past. LSV's splashes tend towards the side of playing as few as possible actual lands of the splashes colour, in favour of manipulating his deck so that his lands offer him a 2-for-1 value. As many of his vintage drafts will show. (This would be the part where I link to as many of them as I could find, but as of writing my statement I do not have time to sift through all of his vintage cube drafts) As a note, comparing modern and vintage cubes is not in anyway irrelevant seeing as the manabase mathematics/principles remain largely the same, wherein the cards differ vastly.

[@funnyjuk]

50:20 LSV Salt Mining Co.

[@ThroughTheWormhole]

Troll

[@lgreenberg20]

Drafts Karn, beats normies. LAME

[@chupacabra8821]

Filthy, never change. Boo hoo play something original. Caleb Gannon n Numot cover Jank drafts already

[@jamess8014]

Chumping with snap instead of trading that turn seemed really bad :s

[@zapender]

If you're referring to when he chumped Inferno Titan, he was forced to because the titan has firebreathing and his opponent had enough mana to pump it so it would kill LSV

[@myztik5716]

I think the play that doesn't lose you the game isn't 'really bad.'

[@jamess8014]

Lul fully forgot it had firebreathing

[@dragonkm88]

Scks

[@lachlanrobertson7109]

watched until saw first pick blue card and decided not to watch because i have seen you play these decks so many times

[@BenCollinsDigital]

groan.

[@ZeroDividesByYOU]

And you felt the need to express condescending distaste... why again? I realize you could say a similar thing to me. But I'd just like everyone that dislikes things to not come off as snobs. I doubt you care what I say in this regard. I just think everything would be better if we either took a stand for things that are generally bad and unhelpful, and make a distinction to ignore the types of things that merely annoy us without being belittling or obnoxious. I believe there is at least some merit to the phrase "if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all."

[@RW77777777]

I don't think what you said was very nice

[@ZeroDividesByYOU]

That is because I believe that there is only some merit to that phrase. It sure is an oversimplification. Usually advice or correction or something worth standing up for is not perceived as "nice." I attempted to be polite. But your point is valid. Thank you for the criticism