Modern Ford FAILURES?! (17' Escape WEAK BRAKES, 14' Mustang No Radio/HVAC)

With new technology come new FAILURE MODES.
This 2017 Ford Escape Ecoboost was sent to the auction with "VERY WEAK BRAKES" and a malfunctioning ELECTRONIC Parking Brake.
Next is a 2014 Ford Mustang with DEAD HVAC and Radio controls.
Some Parts will definitely be required...
These failures would NOT happen on an "older" car, and I'm guessing they are NOT cheap to repair...if you can find the often DISCONTINUED Parts!!
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Enjoy!
Ivan

[@TheKrisKing]

Feel like there is going to be a huge market for board repairs for vehicles in the near future

[@dustcommander100]

That you work on auction cars indicates a high level of confidence - and rightly so! Let them throw at you what they may - you can truly handle it.

[@2491kridge]

Auction cars really are a curveball. When you work at a steady shop you get to know most makes and models and common failure points so when a car comes in with a complaint you’ve got a basic idea of what direction to head. Auction cars always come in with these weird random one off complaints that you’ve never seen before. Our shop has a few used car lots that bring us auction cars and man do we find some weird stuff lol

[@superminer66]

No worries....Dorman will come with a replacement board....

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I would be thoroughly impressed if any of the buttons actually worked out of the box 🤣

[@BillyJ57]

Planned obsolescence has been going on for a long long time. However the plan time keeps getting shorter.

[@andyd9900]

The light bulb started it all. Edison's shop still has the original tungsten filament bulbs burning .

[@Jonathan11225]

Thats gonna be worse with EV

[@adotintheshark4848]

Planned obsolescence only works for a short time.

[@paulmoir4452]

Too bad electronics are impossible to repair.

[@gregrhodes19]

Yeah all didn't look good blue smokes not a good sign you should have looked at the antifreeze or maybe checked it with a gas analyzer to see if he ain't hydrocarbons are coming out of the radiator

[@jdtractorman7445]

I could see this years ago when I was working on cars. The planned obsolescence is mind boggling. I prefer all manual controls for the HVAC. I never have liked auto HVAC. I just think it is more stuff to go wrong. Give me simple levers, cables and vacuum servos for the HVAC and I am good.

[@robertsmith2956]

I hated when they got rid of the simple pressure switch. You could just short it and if compressor came on theirs your part, or there isn't any freon inside.

[@Paramount531]

I miss the sight glass for determining AC charge.

[@Jazc-mp889]

This is why I like the good old fashioned hand brake and not these ridiculous electronic ones.

[@TheBry_Guy]

agreed! It's like they are trying to make a "better" mousetrap with wifi and bluetooth... rats and roads haven't changed... just the idiot customers that buy this crap, allowing manufacturers to shrink-flation everything.

[@adotintheshark4848]

and the individual and separate radio and HVAC control units.

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@TheBry_Guy If all you get is electric parking brakes you don't have much choice, do you? And the electric parking brakes are easier to service. No more rusty bowden cables under the car. The issue is not the design, but the quality of the components.

[@Ulrich_Wolf]

Hey Ivan! Quick tip on the Sync modules - I see this a LOT! Always try a super hard reboot first - pull the negative, cover battery post with a rag, then short the negative cable to the positive. Good, hard, solid reset! 80% of the time, it brings them back around. I do run across some bad FCIM's but it seems like more often than not a good reset will get it alive again - that first generation Microsoft programming is flaky at best.

[@zackclark2214]

I agree that on the sync systems your recommendations could help remedy a sync concern. This concern isn’t with the sync system. This module provides inputs from the user to the ACM, the HVAC module and APIM. If this module isn’t communicating the sync system can still operate but will not receive inputs from the FCIM thus those features connected to those buttons will be inop.

[@richb419]

hi Ivan, I agree with you Planned obsolescence. I bought my wife a Juki long arm quilt machine 6 years ago and the touch screen died I was told that the price was $475 dollars if they could get it, of course the machine will not work without it. that stuff is killing the consumer! Rich

[@adotintheshark4848]

look at modern day appliances..engineered to quit after a certain time.

[@badcorgis]

Seems like there could be a market for fixing modules/panels/etc. Along with LED integrated tail lights, and all these other parts that fail because of one tiny component on the board or a busted solder joint,etc.

[@marossgnv]

Custom ASICs and programming will prevent repairs. Modern modules use encryption. Replacing parts won't cut it.

[@on-site4094]

My grandfather went to the dealership last week he’s looking @ vehicle echo boost run. & tell the salesman that engine is hurt already salesman that’s the way they sound he gets back in his 2002 Lincoln & says that thing makes more noise there your grandmother sewing machine 🤣🤣

[@wernerdanler2742]

And her sewing machine is probably 50 years old. 😂😅😂😅

[@MUSTANGGT12]

Had that happen to my 2012 GT Ended up having to send it out to get repaired. Wasn't the control panel but the big unit that you showed that was still installed

[@wyattoneable]

It's always interesting to stop by to see what's up!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Hi Wyatt! 👋🙂

[@cullenmiller8170]

Nice video and diagnosis. I guess the future for someone is repairing all those broken modules. I want my 1959 Mercedes Benz Diesel back. 😂

[@wernerdanler2742]

I want my 85 300d with 280k miles back, too.😢😢

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

Very objective diagnostic approach, Ivan! It's exasperating that perfectly good cars get totalled by electronic boards that are discontinued too soon - they don't want these cars fixed! Many of these boards (at least, for the European market), are made by "Ford Electrónica", just a few miles from where I live. They are perfectly able to build replacement boards, if they want to.

[@alex241]

"If they want to." is exactly right. My friends mom had severe trans problems with a 1990 Ford...multiple cars with the same trans problem...fast forward 30 years and what is Ford STILL having? Transmission problems!!! Are they incapable of making a robust transmission? NO...they just dont want to.....

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

@@alex241 Yep, it's the sad truth - cars have become disposable goods.

[@annjohnson6086]

if its wet belt check it disintegration can ruin vacuum pump and clog up engine

[@glenharper3136]

Thanks for the video Ivan.

[@BillCarrIpswich]

Weird - that '17 Escape has a keyed ignition and Sync 1. Our '16 Kuga (the Euro version of the Escape) has keyless and Sync 2. Thankfully we've also got the manual e-brake, a 6-spd manual transmission (not the Powershit) and the PSA TDCi DW10 engine not the Ecoboost grenades!

[@lovetolearn5253]

I had a 2015 Ford the other day come in for pads and rotors. After I did the pads and rotors on the front the pedal had a softness ( did not test drive car before). After taking to the customer he thought the pads would fix that issue. Eventually the fix was activating the abs with scan tool a couple times. After finding the issue I googled it and it seems to be common. I alldata and googled it just to see if the abs solenoid needed replaced but I guess everyone had success with just activation. Time will tell and if it comes back I'll report. At least Ford is more reliable then Chrysler. I looked at a 2019-20 jeep with oil issue. Lady take it to the dealership every month because the car shuts off and flashes oil warning. Dealer told her oil change will fix it, she had 5 in 7 months. Seems that engine has ring issues and the jeep has 45k on it

[@johnt.848]

The Stealership is scamming her. I bet the oil changes aren't free either.

[@neilmurphy845]

I am very surprised that that Ford escape is not popping up with a message saying change engine oil now

[@craigescapeddetroit5198]

I fully agree that the discontinuation of parts and modules is a huge problem. With that in mind, I already bought used modules (really cheaply) for my 2014 Silverado for the future. I'm buying other parts that are likely to need replacing some day. Buying them before any emergency lets me find them at much lower prices and I won't be faced with "parts shortages". I'm getting most parts at 60-80% cheaper than "emergency" prices. (Full set of 8 fuel injectors, $90 ). Emergency price? $1,000. That was my biggest discount. New Radiator? $100 vs $350-450.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Where do you get OEM injectors for $90?? Ebay scam? 😆

[@craigescapeddetroit5198]

I said I was buying spare parts, I never said I was sticking with OEM parts. Yes, the injectors are Ebay Chinese imports. Even if 50% are bad, I could buy a second set to find enough good ones to fix my car and still be saving tons of money. I worked over 30 years in the GM car factories and even in the 1980's I was shocked at how many "factory OEM parts" came from China, etc.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@craigescapeddetroit5198 thought so haha Ask me how many problems I have seen caused by cheap eBay Amazon aftermarket junk 🤣 Don't waste your money 👍

[@PaulLorenzini-ny2yw]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnosticsThere is literally nothing worse then getting a car in from a DIY customer that has unloaded the entire Ebay parts cannon on it.

[@rodneymiddleton9624]

I hate those Ecosludge Fords! Thanks Ivan!

[@int53185]

I thought it was bad that GM discontinued parts for my 16 year old Pontiac 😂.

[@rrmech11]

Great job. Ivan

[@simonjones7785]

that where we in the uk are a little luckier than you in the US we still have men in sheds who can and will repair crap like this

[@donsurlylyte]

too many computerized modules with special software

[@tedjohnson64]

Men in sheds? In the US, a shed is a small wooden building in the backyard where we keep garden tools. Perhaps shed means something different in the UK?

[@HollomanUFOLanding]

I think a lot of modern day cars are built with the same 8 to 10 year life span in mind as are consumer items like washing machines, TVs etc. They'l function for a few years and then something terminal will fail, causing the consumer to buy a new one. Planned obsolescence? Boom. Nice work Ivan.

[@alex241]

I think most manufacturers are more like 5-7 years before the car becomes a giant money pit. I am sticking with mid-2000's Toyotas for as long as I can. They have proven to be practically bullet proof...

[@HollomanUFOLanding]

@@alex241 I agree. When I lived in Europe, I used to own Japanese built Nissans made in the late 80s / early 90s, bomb proof. You could put 100s of thousand of miles on them with no issues at all. I was lucky, I got a 2009 Japan built Subaru Forester that I still run. This was the model before the timing chains and piston ring problems. Mine runs like new still and I think is one one of the last batch of Subarus built to last as long as you're prepared to do simple things like regular oil changes etc.

[@mikemiller3565]

And cost driving 8 year loans

[@MrTonyPiscatelle]

Planned obsolescence ! Darn shitty for what these newer vehicles cost now days

[@JF-wk5zo]

I'ld be interested in seeing Ivan check out the board to see if he could find what's broken

[@farmermiyagi1338]

Ironically, I have a 2016 Silverado in the shop with a bad vacuum pump. Poor old Norm says "I didn't know if I was gonna make it here VZ!"

[@dendkmac]

Auction cars lol..I used to go to Mannheim and look at candidates for bullpen value cars for Haldeman ford dealership in NJ and PA.

[@AKJeeper]

Modern cars make me long for vehicles from the mid 90s through mid 2000s...Double or single DIN stereos (no integrated crap), manual climate control (ones with knobs are a plus), and power door locks and windows that don't go through a body control module to operate. Seems that the technology in vehicles back then made them more reliable and functional. We're at a point now where all the electronic tech is reducing overall reliability and longevity....

[@Runco990]

Like my 2002 civic! Still "simple" and I stuck an aftermarket navi radio in it. Plan to run it till it rusts out from under me.

[@lvsqcsl]

I haven't ever had an issue with the Marquis on anything electronic. Seems to be better than current electronic components.

[@mikechiodetti4482]

That's always a problem. Planned Obsolescence! Throw in rust and corrosion and the vehicle becomes a memory. Good Quick Diagnosis Ivan!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I've noticed that somr newer cars are having major problems well before the rust starts getting bad!!

[@carloserazo1286]

Thanks!

[@melissathompson7229]

Id be putting in an Idatalink MUS1 kit with a Kenwood Excelon head unit. Keeps all your controls on the touchscreen and gives Car Play and Android Auto. Million times better than the factory garbage anyways. And gives you cool controls and gauges

[@promastersonly1419]

I take a wide view. We had this same argument about 20 years ago in the world of vacume tube guitar amps. Solid state/digital amps are non-serviceable throw away junk, while point-to-point wired tube amps are still very much alive and thriving. BUT....the functionality that can be put in the customer's hands for the PRICE makes it a no brainer, since tube amps are a big buck proposition. That it's throwaway is what makes it affordable. It's similar with cars - we can make a car that's 100% serviceable and durable, but it'll cost $200k and nobody will buy it. I too prefer high quality stuff to low quality disposable, but I admit that I'm often a cheapskate and I don't want to pay for it. And I'm spoiled enough to want all the functionality that the panel in that Mustang offers. In short it's our own fault as consumers to a large extent.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Sooo how do you explain 90s cars being half the cost and 3x the longevity of modern disposable vehicles? 🤔 I drive a 1996 Ford product that I bought 7 years ago for $500. At 300k miles it literally feels just barely broken in, no joke!! 😅

[@promastersonly1419]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Late 90s early 2000s cars are the sweet spot between durability and technology, I agree. But I’m old enough to remember having these arguments over canbus, mpfi before that, cpfi before that, and unibody before that. Oh how mechanics bitched at the invention of the oxygen sensor! But do you really want to go back to carbs and points? How about counting flashes of the check engine light? Me neither.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@promastersonly1419 never said I want to go back to carbs and points, although I do respect the older technology 😉 In general people want hassle-free reliable transportation that lasts at least a couple decades without major breakdowns or expenses. Seems that was almost perfected through the 2000s but recently the trend has been going backwards... 🤔

[@promastersonly1419]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics agreed. If maximum cheap to own/operate was the goal, we’d ALL drive Corollas. But we dont. We want fast cars shaped like penises! And we want audio controls on the steering wheel, because I simply cant be bothered to move my hand! And to be fair, cars of any period can be disposable junk. You havent lived till you’ve battled a ballast resistor that isnt a resistor, it was a resistance wire coming off the coil. Or a mechanical voltage regulator. Or starter shims. Or vapor lock. Or chokes. One word; Jet-tronic!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@promastersonly1419haha right on! I wouldn't drive a Corolla because life is too short to drive something so boring xD Probably explains why all of my vehicles are quirky outdated "junkers"...but they all drive "like new" and are simple and reliable like old friends :)

[@neilmurphy845]

My KA+ 2019 has being very reliable so far But then again it is based on I think the mark 7 fiesta which I've heard are fairly reliable

[@rhkips]

About half of the Explorer Police Interceptors I work on have dead FCIMs, and rather amusingly, the officers always try to say it stopped working immediately after the accident in hopes of getting it fixed. :D

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

I had one of these escapes a 2009 with the accumulator ABS booster design, it's motor failed and would not produce pressure for assist, no parts were available. Customer is optimistic storing it until one becomes available. Planned obsolensence is a thing and even if not all the plastic will only last so long and would cause it eventually also..

[@lvsqcsl]

You seem to be throwing around some rather descriptive terms lately; "disposable cars" "planned obsolescence." I couldn't agree more. The 'ol Marquis needed the infamous plastic manifold. I was told at the dealership the manifolds for the later model Grand Marquis hasn't been discontinued. (2006-11) I had to unbolt the metal crossover and reuse that with the new plastic part. Dorman makes one, but, I will just let that name speak for itself. I checked my local junkyard and they have crushed most of the older models, so, I can't source anything from there anymore. GREAT VIDEO!

[@greghanlon2235]

Would love to hear followup on these two...

[@Thepartguy]

We had one of these at my shop that the vacuum pump drive snapped the bolt in the end of the cam. The pump had locked up. Pretty easy fix.

[@user-fr2ne3oj3z]

Just got a brand new 24 Maverick Lariat hybrid, I hope it lasts ten years but I'm doubtful.

[@blueskiesmobileauto4253]

Hey at least they made a default fail safe where it just blows air hopefully at the windshield. Bluetooth speakers are pretty cheap too. I wonder if that vacuum pump drive sheared the gear drive. What a couple of firds!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

It blows for a few seconds then quits... No heat either 😒

[@michaelgleason4791]

I'd be very surprised if there's not a shop that can fix these boards.

[@dhstadt]

Yep, if there is a need it will be met.

[@PileOfEmptyTapes]

It would be hilarious if it just turned out to be a shorted ceramic capacitor, possibly of the non-automotive rated variety...

[@randyr.parker2698]

Or, possibly a bad 78xx voltage regulator. My guess it's more than likely something very simple, usually is. @@PileOfEmptyTapes

[@user-kk2bo4de8m]

This is specialised repair and if no parts easy to access no

[@briananderson8733]

Why if planned obsolescence is happening hasn't a group of companies non oems begun to make universal replacement parts .

[@tedjohnson64]

A long time Toyota parts counter guy once told me that US law required them to carry every part for a car for least 10 years after they stopped making that model. But (per your example of not being able to find a module for a 2016 GM) I wonder if this is actually enforced? Yes, supply chain impacts from Covid is still an issue. But… it seems that in recent years, many companies (and people) are pushing the boundaries of the legal system because… they’re aware that they will most likely get away with it. It’s a slippery slope that will be difficult to reverse.

[@Mr2004MCSS]

I have a 2014 Mustang GT and have read that those modules seem to fail pretty often. My car only has 36,000 miles on it but I worry about not being able to get modules like this in the future.

[@chrislavigne1212]

As Eric O says due to forever backorder they just re design and come out with newer stuff. Obtanium and cheap aftermarket parts. Great video as usual. Where can i find a good test light like yours?

[@johnnyblue4799]

You make it yourself. A lightbulb, a socket and 2 wires...

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

I know time was restricted on site, my gut feeling tells me that a push button is jammed on at all times. This command prevents any other command from being accepted. If it was my car I would separate the buttons from the board. Then clean the buttons contacts both on the board and buttons. Some buttons these days have a carbon tip that needs cleaning over extensive use.

[@melvinjones3895]

A oil change well who knew that didn't that come standard on the ex model. with black paint. The interior on that car looked good. put the seats in a fishing boat. On the mustang Spray the board with. WD 40. who knows.

[@VS-me7ff]

I see the Thinktool ProS is available on Amazon again, do you think the Launch is a better way to go? Thanks, can't wait to see you next Videos!

[@jrehtil1494]

I agree

[@major__kong]

I'm not sure it's planned obsolescence. It's just the nature of modern electronics. You could ruggedize the electronics, but I don't think anyone would like the cost.

[@JPAutoService]

If i wrote the repair order it would read: "Performed analog and digital leak tests on power brake booster, both test results ok. Stuck my finger on the vacuum pump, it ain't suckin'."

[@n124lp]

Did you check the power and ground to the vacuum pump on the Escape? What about the connector on the control module on the Mustang?

[@johnt.848]

There's after market options for the Mustang radio replacement, but i'm not sure if they allow for HVAC functions.

[@russellhltn1396]

9:34 I can't help but noticed two "non-OEM" switches in the lower left of the video. Gotta wonder what all was done to that mustang.

[@bobspurloc]

most likely just a desoldered wire or component. seen a few ford issues with that heater resistor positive leg at board, over head compass resistor leg, headlight module relay leg. im sure it happens to all vehicles

[@ronaldbrown5745]

The newer solder is lead free and does not work as well.

[@jackschissler255]

I had a new 2015 Equinox. 2 years into it I had no HVAC control and my radio was maxed, I could not turn it off or lower volume and I could not control the heat/ac Took it to dealership, the center stack was bad (this was a known issue for the Equinox and terrains). So the center stack was replaced and 3 yrs later it did the same thing and it was replaced again. All under warranty as I had an extended warranty

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Junk lol

[@danmadison5087]

That thing sounds like a well oiled jack hammer.

[@josephclark7163]

That thing sounds horrible

[@happy543210]

Good old Ford never fails to disappoint.

[@pookatim]

Might be a good idea to purchase extra modules when you buy a new car. In the future you may need one if you don't you will be able to sell them on ebay.

[@jcbecker2800]

The FCIM went out on my Lincoln. It's a 2014 and it went out in 2019. It's a discontinued part. I don't know what we are going to do when it breaks again.

[@zackclark2214]

The smoke on start up is not normal and is likely a turbo turbine shaft seal leaking into the exhaust. This requires turbo replacement. The vacuum pump has failed as per your proper diagnosis. You did miss that you also had cam codes for the intake cam. This could mean when you pull the pump off, the cam will be damaged due to the pump locking up. With the oil being nasty my hunch is that this engine hasn’t been maintained and the non serviceable filter in the head has been plugged and has starved the pump of oil causing the failure. This has also caused starvation of oil to the turbo thus also the cause for the seal problem/ prob also has shaft play. These engines are also known for their coolant intrusion of the cylinders due to the poor designs of the block that has been updated. My recommendation would be to pull the pump and start the car check and make sure you have good oil flow to the pump and no cam damage. If no oil to the pump recommend a long block, turbo, and oil separator as the separator is like plugged and will cause the new engine to leak oil.

[@donsurlylyte]

you are right these cars will be unrepairable in time. no barn find rescues of these

[@jackschissler255]

When I started driving School bus in 93, we had a series of vans (Chevy/GMC Vandura). The one I drove had a brake issue. You would hit the brake and it became hard as a rock, brake light would come on. Mechanics could not find the reason. This was an intermittent issue. I finally requested another van and refused to drive it. Mechanics could not get it to do it but it took my boss several attempts to notice the issue after he almost ran a red light. No one knew the cause. I think there was an electrical issue with it or some type of vacuum failure. It was a mystery.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Ha I actually rode on one of those back in the 90s 😊

[@cclngthr]

Planned obsolescence.. Yep. Applies to everything now. I bought a 60 month battery for my car in January of 2023 and today I replaced it again. Only lasted 13 months. I got a better battery this time, from Excide. The engineers seem to expect us to buy a high priced item that only lasts a year or 2. Maybe 4 to 5 years max. Cars now in the wrecking yard are 2 to 3 years old with modules that are unavailable. Cheaply made.

[@Runco990]

I average 10 years out of a battery. I always plug the car into a battery minder when I park it. ALWAYS. Stops sulphation.

[@cclngthr]

@@Runco990 A battery should last even without being plugged in to a battery tender. Where I live, we can't have electrical cords strung from the building to the parking lot overnight (it is an apartment complex). I can have a cord out only for a few hours if I need to work on the car for minor things (it is a violation of the lease for other things). A tenant cannot charge an EV on site here either. There are no EV electrical systems here.

[@Runco990]

@@cclngthr To be fair, while a battery tender prevents sulphation and makes the battery thus last MUCH longer, in my case I sometimes don't need to drive my car for a long enough time that just the normal electronic draw will kill the battery. However, a little solar panel will also keep it full if you park outside. You may not NEED it, but it does extend the life of the battery. They ain't cheap no mo! 😁

[@carloserazo1286]

The water heater in our hose use copper inners and galvanized steel in the outside planned obsolescence just like said maestro

[@timd1833]

No green crusties on the connector? If not, maybe a vehicle PCB repair company can fix the FDIM.

[@stevereyes2845]

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[@alexanderlong4625]

Camshaft damage likely from vacuum pump failing? High pressure pump is driven off fuel pump lobe. Low rail pressure fault.

[@LesReeves]

I realise that this comment is 2 days since the video post but I agree with the planned obsolescence however there will be people out there that will make an industry out of this which will destroy planned obsolescence (which will hopefully make vehicle manufacturers wake up. The other way is to stop buying these new garbage boxes.Cheers Ivan great vid as usual.

[@jdesaavedra0432]

Don't feel bad about 10 year old cars having discontinued parts. I was doing auto body repair and refinishing in the mid to late 1970's. I had a friend who wrecked the hood on his 1973 RoadRunner in 1976. The hood was discontinued, forcing me to use a low quality used hood for the repair.

[@Michael-yi4mc]

I have a feeling that the auto auction is a dumping ground? Fortunately, Ivan is able to solve the problem with the car.

[@skipdog77]

Coolant intrusion issue maybe? I don’t like the smoke coming out. These are notorious for that issue.

[@AricVogel]

I don't think this is "planned" obsolescence, just cost cutting. It's simply cheaper to integrate as much as possible into larger modules that communicate serially, rather than having a bunch of individual buttons/LEDs/actuators/cables/etc. And at least in my experience, these modules are reasonably reliable (with the exception of some defects/anomalies like bad solder joints and capacitors, or water intrusion). It still sucks when the odd one does fail and the part is discontinued/backordered, but every vehicle has parts which will be discontinued eventually (computerized or not). It might be a little easier to make aftermarket replacements for non-computerized parts, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. I recently discovered a company that makes an aftermarket serial/CAN module (Idatalink) which can integrate an aftermarket radio with newer vehicles (retaining factory Sat radio, Ford SYNC, HVAC controls, etc.). Granted, you'd have to purchase a new radio, dash kit, and wiring harness as well to make that work, but it is an option in case you can't obtain a replacement FCIM (which I'm certain you can, if not brand new from Ford, there will be tons in junkyards and on eBay for many years to come).

[@sa432jh]

My 20 year old jeep Cherokee / liberty USA still going strong

[@stephen2028]

Sad , just sad

[@GarryFishermusic]

Just asking could they hvac be wired to switches manually on/off if no boards available ? Thanks

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Nope

[@GarryFishermusic]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Thanks for your reply .

[@major__kong]

You could probably jerryrig a hobby microcontroller. But it would take time to reverse engineer the logic. And that's how some of these cars will be saved, at least the ones worth saving.

[@geraldharkness8830]

are us fords made to a different standard than uk /eu markets? ive naever had probs like this here in the uk

[@ricebike]

Easy diagnosis for Ivan 😅 come on auction lot, step up your game and get a bidirectional scanner!😂

[@unclefranj8460]

You are right on with your "planned obsolescence" comments - unfortunately...

[@zx8401ztv]

I really hate greed, it's an emotion i will never allow in me.

[@_RiseAgainst]

128k miles and 6 oil changes.

[@johnmccallum8512]

Those 6 changes were probibly done in the first 60k.

[@simonjones7785]

isnt the ford everest the one that goes into spontaneus combustion on a battery change ( ref austrailia reports)

[@nigerbear2642]

Does not need a new vacuum pump, Needs a new engine because Ford ran the vacuum pump off the camshaft and the bolt breaks off. The 1.5 ecoboost is a horrible engine. Makes me more money though.

[@JustAnAverageBrad]

11:25 wow that dash plate was loaded with rust....almost like its a flood car

[@major__kong]

My F150 does that, too, but not as bad. But it's the brackets under the steering wheel. No flood. Just poorly made parts like they couldn't be bothered with proper surface protection. I just spritzed mine with aviation grade Corrosion-X. It's a much thinner film than something like fluid film and doesn't stink.

[@karenkartz3163]

I've been saying this for years that manufacturers were moving towards planned obsolescence.

[@michaelpowers4731]

Are you sure the caliper isn’t broken internal and the actuator just spins over and over again?

[@bobspurloc]

oil change? isnt that showing its fabulous internal waterpump bearing is leaking into the crank case?

[@Sandmansa]

Planned obsolescence? Oh, for sure. Over engineering the simple things like parking brakes, radio and hvac systems for example is the dumbest of ideas IMO. But that escape though, it looks like the last owner changed the oil maybe once a year. I'm willing to bet that the high-pressure fuel pump tappet and cam shaft are severely damaged. Not to mention, the turbo as well. It may already be too late to save that engine.

[@bigboogertz]

send the board in to Northridge Fix and see if he can wizard it back into working condition?

[@RussellBooth1977]

I think that Ford have drawn a circle around the problem !

[@billziegmond4943]

Give me good old fashion switches and relays. This from a guy who works on computers and circuit boards all day long.

[@greggc8088]

Well, maybe Dorman will make some of those modules that are unavailable from the manufacturer. Downside is, they'll never work. Upside is, you and I, along with other techs will have plenty of work to do and get even more practice saying "throw the Dorman in the garbage".

[@robertmoura7546]

I could see going thru 20 new cars in our life span, besides all these gadgets that these cars have, and no one wants to get it fixed, leaving them in worse shape.

[@n124lp]

I think the situation with electronic boards will create ever more business opportunities for people doing board-level repairs.

[@johnz8210]

GM and Tesla might be the only US automakers soon. And I'm not so sure about GM.

[@cryptomandon]

those boards can be repaired by sending to the right tech shop its most likely one single component on the board

[@GerardPinzone]

My first thought is that there might be a market for repairing discontinued parts like this. However, how much money could you possibly make? Yeah, it's unobtanium, which drives up the price, but is anyone going to invest a lot of money into a 10 year old car on its last legs?