the problem with belle's dress 😶🥀⚜️

this wasn't a video i planned on making, but i got SO many requests to do a video on costume design decisions i dislike and this was one of the first films that came to mind (the other is mentioned in this video). i LOVE the animated beauty and the beast film so much that i had the dish set and the computer game and watched the sequel every christmas as a child. i was really excited for the live action film when it came out, and of course, because i love clothes, i couldn't help but feel disappointed with some of the costume design choices. i have absolutely NOTHING against jacqueline durran or emma watson, i just think this could have been better. obviously all the views in this video are my own, if you disagree that's okay!
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[@herediaee]

Modifying the dress as a "feminist" concept is just so dumb. It reduces what feminism fights for (like erradicating actual violence against women) to just clothing.

[@megan166]

Thank you for stating this. Now, if only Hollywood would listen.

[@Cloverfr]

Ironically what Emma did was antifeminst, she probably did not research about the corsets topic kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH_ahaSXo9Vjd9k

[@ArtemisScribe]

Many celebrities see "Feminist" as a noun rather than a verb. It's all about identity and appearance rather than action. And frustratingly that trickles down into ordinary people too. So we end up having lots of irritating discussions about "Can a feminist do this?" or "Can a feminist do that?" rather than "Is this a feminist act?" It rips all the meaning and purpose out of the movement, and unfortunately I think that's the whole point.

[@glittery_cucumber]

The whole "corsets = oppression" is very 2010 feminism.

[@ArtemisScribe]

@BİKAS AYM BATMAN yes "Feminist" is literally a noun, but I was making more of a political statement when I said that it's a verb not a noun. I mean that's the attitude we should take.

[@-_--_-8614]

The dress wasn’t Belle’s dress, it was Emma Watson’s dress.

[@becuaseimbored3481]

This whole movie was Emma Watson's ego project

[@samantha5384]

I wish I could like this more than once!

[@Notsomethingtoknow]

@ALLEGRA F ikr, I don't know why everyones being disrespectful to Emma while they can just state that they dislike.

[@fanime1]

@ALLEGRA F But she can't sing! She's like the female equivalent of when they hired Gerald Butler to play Phantom. And even he did a better jobb because he actually showed emotions! Emma kept the same expression throughout the whole film. Seriously, watch a side by side comparison of the animated and live action film. The best scenes to compare are the Be Our Guest and the wolf scenes. Who has more emotion? The one that was made with paper and pencil!

[@fanime1]

@@Notsomethingtoknow Did you not read the numerous articles about the making of the film, because that's what they're talking about. Emma Watson stepped out if her boundaries as an actress and made so many decisions that wasn't her job to make. That's not a good thing. Films are a team effort and everyone was hired to do their jobs because they have the skills for them. Emma didn't study costume design, screen writing, or cinematography, so she isn't qualified to make such decisions but she did for this film because she wanted to, most likely threatening the production team that she'll leave if they don't do as she says.

[@lakshitapopli9700]

Belle’s dress literally looks like a cheese omelette with all those weird layers n stuff

[@maddythinks]

Omg. Hilarious

[@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme]

@@maddythinks prom

[@Account-xm6vj]

i literally cackled at 2am... this comment is dangerously underrated

[@lakshitapopli9700]

Hahaha I’m glad I could make u laugh

[@boorave]

LMAOO-

[@lizardfishbird]

Emma Watson was given and UNREASONABLE amount of control over the design of belle’s dress, and it shows

[@isabelbarroso3381]

A very badly made choice.

[@jezreelbullock6280]

She had an unreasonable amount of control in a few decisions concerning Belle. Including switching her grown flats to boots and changing the hair accessories for the ball gown

[@samr378]

@@jezreelbullock6280 but this one cannot be given so many permissions and trusts to the actor, the only thing they will achieve is that the director suffers headaches

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

_Especially_ for her to just change her mind two years later and wear a corset for _Little Women._ Jacqueline Durran was the costume designer for that film as well; I wonder if perhaps Emma Watson discovered just how expendable she was in a mainstream production and acquiesced?

[@jezreelbullock6280]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 wow. I didn't even know about that. That makes it worse.

[@fam6883]

Cinderalla's dress is jaw dropping and has the wow factor. Belle's? Its underwhelming. Its disappointing since its one of the most iconic dresses in Disney films.

[@esmeraldee39yearsagoedited78]

F Am 100% agreed

[@LadyB_20]

Agreed!

[@fam6883]

@@lemonwedge5209 And when she made her entrance, i just-

[@esmeraldee39yearsagoedited78]

Lemon Wedge yasss

[@yippedoodah]

@@vilwarin5635 Cinderella's dress silhouette and its elements are still very reflective of the era but with modern fabric. I can also excuse that since it's made of magic right before our eyes. Belle's dress seems like she found it in the closet and the wardrobe stuck some ceiling glitter around the hem.

[@araogi1738]

Her dress is like the “prom dress” version of the actual dress

[@msk-qp6fn]

i never realized how accurate "prom dress" is until u said it lol

[@ankolikakumar5701]

or like a cosplay dress.

[@LuluBeLulu]

@@ankolikakumar5701 I've seen cosplay versions that are so much more gorgeous than hers.

[@annejeppesen160]

@@ankolikakumar5701 that is one lazy cosplayer if so!

[@ankolikakumar5701]

@@annejeppesen160 welp

[@pervert7515]

Sad fact is, the dress cost a LOT of money. They put thousands of small crystals on top of the dress but it became completely unnoticable. The details weren't showing off as they're supposed to and the expensive crystals didn't spice up the dress, making the dress look dull and cheap ://

[@maitreyi3466]

Yeah I remeber having read somewhere that the fabric was studded with a whole bunch of teeny-tiny Swarovski crystals

[@rokamayono2312]

Really? I didn’t even know there were crystals

[@magicwandstudio3141]

They want to make sparkle effect like Cinderella but fail. I barely noticed the sparkle probably because of the bright yellow color and the lighting

[@ughIdontwantto]

oh man that makes it so much worse...

[@MultiBigbird01]

Wait really? I could barely even pick up on the gold embroidery on the dress because of the bright yellow, let alone seeing any sparkle on it.

[@dwaekkisinsanity5233]

I love Emma but she have to portray Belle and not herself. Belle, in that time period, would've worn a corset. Without it, it just made the whole dress look like a cheap prom dress

[@draguta8995]

She didn't even portray herself. She portrayed Hermione. She brought her HP acting to Belle rather than acting Belle.

[@katierasburn9571]

Belle was also more than happy to dress up and be feminine!

[@RiseInAfterlife]

@@draguta8995 She can't play anythign else. Her acting skills are incredibly limited and she should've never been considered for a role as Belle. But sadly in Hollywood fame > talent.

[@putri7659]

Belle would've worn a corset like Emma must've wear bra too

[@fulichak6499]

It's honestly so sad because that dress was supposed to be supposedly feminist because it didn't show cleavage. I'm a feminist myself and I want women to be less sexualized, but that doesn't mean the dress has to be goddamn ugly

[@jungkookingpenqueenminari8221]

Belle’s dress looked cheap. They could’ve made the details more recognizable. Cinderella’s dress is still the most magical dress in all the remakes.

[@michellebelle5327]

It did look so cheap!

[@clarkepercivaljaeblood4886]

Of COURSE Cinderella's dress is the most magical. It's entirely magic lol 😂

[@cupid3890]

Yes!! It looks sad and flat in comparison to the original animated film 😔

[@useddirt7500]

JungKooKing & PenQueen Minari same, I was hoping for some kind of fancy raised embroidery, and possibly more of a golden shine :(

[@naritruwireve1381]

Also idk if it's just my poor eyesight, but from far away, her necklace just looked like random twigs, but in close up shots of it, it actually looks really beautiful. I wonder if there would've been a way to do the necklace justice with wide shots

[@mays.3013]

Cinderella's dress literally left me gasping and I was so exited for the Beauty and the Beast, but it was pretty underwhelming tbh :/

[@thevilonesfr]

The whole Cinderella live action was worth every penny. It was a perfect mix between the classic with the modern take on it. I watched it the day before I watched the beauty & the beast live action. And i was so sure that bella's dress will be at least close to it. Was really disappointed

[@omgimgay3476]

the actor of Cinderella had a naturally small waste, but to fit the time line they still did a corset which made Lily James waste come up to a shocking 17 inches. Emma could've easily worn a corset. They were the style back then. I love Emma and how she wants to change Feminism and she is a great actress in Harry Potter, Little Women, etc but she isn't a good actress for a corseted Disney Princess

[@jt-tq8lz]

Yeah and belle’s dress left me laughing-

[@mays.3013]

@@omgimgay3476 Agreed... In my opinion corsets don't deserve their bad reputation too. After all it was just as normal for women at the time, like a bra is to us today. I love Emma, but I just couldn't agree with her on that one :/

[@thevilonesfr]

@@mays.3013 totally agree with you all. She just wasn't the right person overall for Bella. Love Emma but she wasn't fit for Bella.

[@ryuyamada2128]

In an interview, Emma has admitted that she said no to Cinderella over concerns of how the character stood up as a “role model”. “I didn’t know they were going to make Beauty And The Beast at the time I turned down Cinderella,” she told Total Film. “But when they offered me Belle, I just felt the character resonated with me so much more than Cinderella did." Thank goodness she turned down Cinderella.

[@Icha74]

I read that interview, and I remember how I was annoyed with it. Agree that it was a blessing that Emma turned down Cinderella 2015. Cinderella 2015 was the best Disney movie adaptation to me, hands down. Emma doesn't understand Cinderella, thus she doesn't deserve that role. Cinderella might not be a warrior princess, and ppl might see her passiveness as being weak, but she showed emotions and strengths in both the animation and live action versions. There is an essay concerning how ppl blaming Cinderella for not fighting back and not running away as blaming the victim. In those days, for Cinderella, having a roof over your head would be more important than winning the argument against her stepmother. At least in that house she was physically safe (I disagree of course with the abuse, I just want to point out that Cinderella has a reason to not physically fight back). And in the end, Cinderella's kindness and forgiveness are one of her most endearing traits. If those traits are not the traits of a role model, then what a sad thing the world we live in then... A side note: I see more and more people thinking that Cinderella 2015 is a better movie overall compared to BB2017, and I am glad they start to think so. It's not because I don't like Beauty and the Beast; I love the animation. I just can't relate with the BB live action version.

[@lisaleyendekker8305]

Emma really missed what Cinderella was about anyway. To still keep a kind heart when you are abused is not easy, and is severely looked down upon by people like Emma who grew up so privileged. The whole "just save yourself" attitude is toxic when you think it can be applied to everybody. and even Belle wasn't a "I'll just save myself" kind of girl, but that's the kind of character Emma wanted to push.

[@aren7138]

Lots of self proclaimed feminists insult Cinderella, forgetting the tiny detail that Cindy never looked for a man, she just wanted to go to a party. They put down the soft girls, as if that makes them empowering.

[@lxi..]

The thing about abusive family is that you *have* to be passive as to not get into trouble. You can't stand up for yourself and not expect there to be dire, dire consequences. In both movies the stepmother and sisters showed that they were capable of putting their hands on cinderella. Could you imagine if Cinderella yelled at them or slapped one of them!? She'd be locked up in the barn bruised and battered. Also, abuse does not make kind people. The fact that Cinderella, was verbally, physically and emotionally abused throughout most of her life up until age 19, and came out of it still kind and sweet shows more emotional and mental strength than any disney princess (or character) made during Walts' lifetime. I was abused by my step family. I'm now 19 and out of it. It did not make me a kind person admittedly and gave me a lot of my own anger problems. Cinderella broke the cycle, the strongest, most incredible thing an abuse victim can do

[@tonystonem9614]

You guys look so goofy rn 😭 thanking god an actor didn’t play a character there’s ALREADY a movie for. Cinderella is kind of dead tbh because she has no self esteem or back bone when it comes to ppl hurting her , but she stood up for a DEER the prince was hunting 💀 vegan Cinderella ? I have no idea what that was abt , but she takes all the abuse from the step family with a smile

[@jennaroy9036]

I was so disappointed by this movie. The dress was uninspired and I actually prefer her cottage outfit and her wedding dress more. I also felt like Emma just didn't portray Belle the way I imagined her to be whereas, Lily's Cinderella was magic.

[@lauras5359]

Lily was amazing as Cinderella. I didn't see her, I saw Cinderella. Whereas in Beauty and the Beast all I saw was Emma playing Belle. She just didn't suit the role

[@izzieb.2926]

@@lauras5359 ikr. Julia Lester did a better job, and she was playing a high-school student playing Belle in a musical

[@RiseInAfterlife]

Imma be brutally honest: Emma Watson is a bad actress. Why? Cause she can only play one type of role. Belle was quite out of that comfort zone and made it painfully obvious, pair that with the mistake of letting Emma Watson make decisions for the movie just cause she is famous and...you'll end up with what this....movie is.

[@leeloume]

Totally agree. The actress and then the dress were a whole disappointment. I was so pissed off by the film especially because I love the cartoon film sm

[@skizzpulse]

I think Lily didn’t match Cinderella at all

[@violetevergarden5160]

Corsets are so misunderstood today it is really annoying.

[@akumisan6523]

Violet Evergarden ?? What are you doing here?

[@lvleylazy]

Violet is trying to become a princess lmao

[@Angelica-pp9gw]

I know, I follow a ton of fashion historians, and they explain how corsets weren't damaging or uncomfortable

[@entr3_nou5]

Corsets in movies: ow!! Uncomfortable!! Can’t breathe!!! Message about beauty standards!!! Corsets irl: waist go succ

[@annas.2151]

@@Angelica-pp9gw nah they hurt

[@abcumm25]

Well said. I don’t hate the dress, but it’s definitely not ‘Belle’s dress’

[@teresaross1469]

On point

[@teresaross1469]

On point

[@yonicorn1641]

The dress looks fine - as a prom dress or something. Not as what it should be - a really expensive wealthy golden dress

[@LivesInHerBooks]

It’s pretty,But too..Simple for belle in my opinion her dress is like one of the ‘poofiest’ and the One in the live action is like a pastel golden dress you’ll wear for a special event.While in the animation It’s A shimmering gold with several shades of yellow,But a princess dress is Expensive

[@elianisegura4030]

Prom dress.

[@Tenshii_Artii]

I’m so glad that there are many people who thought Belle’s dress was sadly underwhelming. I was so blind by the hype back then, I didn’t see much. Only the fact “Oh! It’s not accurate…but I guess that can’t hurt, right?” Now that I look at her dress again…I don’t really like the design. The yellow is beautiful, but it just looks like your everyday modern prom dress to me.

[@TinaTissue28]

I had my formal/prom over a decade ago now and I had seen girls wear this exact dress

[@NaNa-ou1sg]

I think that's fine tbh. Belle's old dress was ugly as hell and very outdated. I also get with the new dress they were going more for the movement and how the dress looked while moving for the iconic dance.

[@olive545]

dont do modern prom dresses dirty, it looked worse than prom dresses

[@whateverhuney]

@@NaNa-ou1sg don't disrespect the amazing OG dress, even GaGa's meat dress would have been better than the measly curtains Emma demanded to wear.

[@TheGirlKiba]

its actually the men who started the whole "corsets are oppresive" thing. women owned most of the corset businesses which men to fight their competition started calling it oppressive.

[@Isokatmydydecsf]

Yeah...

[@beepboopily6285]

Why do men 🙄

[@scoopitywoop]

Men also made fun of women in corsets, thinking them a sign of vanity

[@oishii5784]

And the dctors at that time (who were also men) that said that wearing corsets would "rearrange your organs" or "break your ribs" THEN male journalists made articles condemning the vanity of women and how they would sacrifice their health and fertility for the sake of fashion🙄 (and also how the few men who wore corsets were ridiculed and had to hide the fact they wore it, even if it was for medical reasons)

[@cupio-stardust]

Of course it was men.

[@MC_Cynator]

The fact the side characters outfits have more details than belle's dress disappoints me

[@batteryacid4706]

this has no replies and that made me mad so im making one

[@haveaniceday..7970]

@@batteryacid4706 lol...I’m down

[@fatiafg2797]

Exactly!!!

[@big_cloud6199]

Ikr!

[@blueavocado2720]

Fr, like is anyone really going to pay SUPER close attention to the side characters? No we all are going to pay attention to, who else, BELLE.

[@madisoned]

Not only was Belle's dress an average-looking dress but also, "Beauty and the Beast" had the misfortune of coming out after "Cinderella" which had the most magical dress transformation

[@neoclydetechnology1946]

True. I watched this movie days after Cinderella. me and my sister both said that the dresses was super underwhelming.

[@mango_kerapu]

Right. Cinderellas ballroom dance was very iconic n pleasant to be watched👍

[@killme5630]

@@mango_kerapu cimderellas live action dress is simply an evidence that you can make changes to an adaptation and still achieve the magic the original source material had if you try hard enough

[@killme5630]

@Oinky Woinky IKR!!

[@doyoueverfeellikeaplasticb2703]

I don't remember the live action Cinderella movie but that dress is like engraved in my mind

[@melaniejansen5748]

Belle's dress pissed me off so much in the film considering the fashion is clearly set during the ROCOCO FASHION ERA. Her dress should have been packed with lush ambers, dusted golds, some roses (red and gold?), bows, and frills! 🤦‍♀️ Also THANK YOU for mentioning how the side characters had fancier dresses but apparently Belle had to have a simple dress for....reasons???

[@GeeklingNo1]

As a busty girl looking into wearing a corset for my back pain I find the amount of misinformation appalling. Also, 90% of the corsets if seen are basically meant for waist training which is NOT the point of a corset

[@bubblegumbxtch9544]

the fact that all the corsets seen are meant for waist training is why she didn't wear one.

[@cmm5542]

But seriously, what's the PROBLEM with waist training? I'm not suggesting extremes here, but having a slim waist is kind of necessary to be healthy - I don't mean it's unhealthy to be overall stocky or plump naturally, but if your waist is out of proportion and as big as your hips or bust, that's kind of a giveaway of being overweight, which is unhealthy. If a corset helps to ensure you don't let yourself get overweight, that's a good thing! And that's even without the much more important virtue of support.

[@Mokiefraggle]

@@cmm5542 A slim waist has nothing to do with being healthy, nor does it have anything to do with one's weight (plenty of even skinny girls have waistlines that aren't substantially smaller than their hips, because people have different proportions and body shapes, not influenced by their body fat. It's _anatomy),_ nor does a corset do anything to "ensure you don't let yourself get overweight." I've worn corsets, and trust me when I say that there's nothing about them that restricts you from eating normally, or even excessively. The only thing that was ever damn uncomfortable to do in a corset was _sneeze._

[@cmm5542]

@@Mokiefraggle Sorry I wasn't clear. I was trying to indicate that because of different body types, just as you said, wearing a corset or having a slim waist naturally or any other health/beauty choices or even natural build can't be seen as signs of oppression. For all we know, a girl with a slim waist who also wears a corset would have a slim waist naturally, and someone without a slim waist may still choose to wear a corset, not to force slimness, but for other valid reasons. I was just pointing out that if a girl DOES have a slim waist or chooses to dress in a way that creates the appearance of a slim waist because she WANTS to, she shouldn't be criticized for upholding 'impossible beauty standards.' Everyone has a right to make their own choices regarding their appearance, regardless of societal expectations. It can be a very big boost to one's self esteem to stand out, and an equal but different boost to meet expectations: it's all about how YOU perceive yourself and the reasons you make your choices.

[@Sarawarawara-]

@@bubblegumbxtch9544 She didn’t wear one because she was ignorant

[@clevachloe6988]

I’m sorry, but to be absolutely honest, her dress looks like layered Kraft cheese slices.

[@bonsaiwithluv]

LMFAOOOOOO

[@sock7342]

Ikr 💀💀💀💀

[@evelynaaspidov123]

Dead 😂😂😂

[@CherryVilla21]

Burn

[@alinkagolovach3631]

Hannah Summers *melt

[@welpthatsthat3060]

I agree, belles dress could have had more potential

[@yippedoodah]

Have you seen the original concept drawings of how her dress would've looked? It would've had sleeves and her hair would've been put up.

[@ashlynboone_]

1000th like!

[@cherryliling4311]

Timothy How do I find it?

[@yippedoodah]

@@cherryliling4311 Google image search: Warren Holder Beauty and the Beast They were the artist who drew out the costumes for Jacqueline, I believe.

[@Ameute]

I have to say her dress looked bland. Less of a “princess” dress and more of a.. long summer dress to the pier. Or... ya... it’s ok. But I couldn’t even say it’s nice looking on her.

[@AlyssaBotelho]

Honestly Emma Watson was mad ignorant for the whole corset refusal/virtue signaling thing

[@cristianna_jasmyn]

Yep

[@aeoligarlic4024]

She made "being a feminist" her entire personality when women are actually more nuanced and diverse than that

[@LL-ip5mm]

They shouldn’t have cast her for this role she’s perfect for other roles but not this one tbh

[@kannale7845]

@@aeoligarlic4024 yeah, she refused the corset bc of her "feminism", but later she still wore corset in Little woman 2019 :V

[@CreoTan]

⁠@@kannale7845probably due to the backlash she got from not wearing a corset in BATB. I wouldn’t be surprised if she did some more research after so many fashion historians called her out

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

I'll always prefer the animated version, even in the Broadway adaptation Belle's infamous yellow dress is jaw-dropping. Emma Watson was all wrong for the role of Belle.

[@justusing6192]

I really hate this idea that a smart woman can’t also dress up, wear make up and care about her looks...that’s ridiculous

[@rachelgarber1423]

I agree. This coming from a feminist, I always dress for the occasion. When I go to the supermarket, I dress very casual, when I go out to dinner, or visiting for holidays, I dress up. And I don’t think that’s antithetical to feminism 🤷🏼

[@RisaGreen]

Same I’m a feminist who loves to read but also loves wearing makeup and fancy dresses

[@jdb8104]

@Life’s Tough emma watson is a Karen

[@cassieedits8211]

Yeah it’s not okay it’s really disrespectful

[@wowsports8800]

@@rachelgarber1423 yes, actually that's what feminism is all about. Or at least should be.

[@i5beomgyu]

I HATED her dress it just ruined the magical feel of the movie. yea maybe she stood out but not in a good way. She was like a sore thumb wearing a cheap prom dress from amazon

[@duchessedeberne3909]

🤣 amen!

[@beloveddagger2892]

The Hot Topic version was better, lol.

[@ThePFF777]

Snob

[@giaandemisworld8118]

LMAOOOOOO!!!!! SAME!! XD

[@mmmmyeah1849]

IKR

[@Emma-dp8lh]

that dress wasnt even specially designed for her personality or to ride horses,it came from a royal wardrobe. it was supposed to be extravagant and luxury, thats why it was gold.

[@glove_log8170]

The gloves with Belle's dress were a symbol of her being married into royalty. They should have let it be instead of not making them a part it her dress. They did the same with Cinderella's dress as well! I know gloves are no longer considered that popular but they add up to that princess vibe! ❤️

[@Blebstinchen]

The dress looked like straight up curtains.

[@saklee1777]

at least in alice in wonderland they used the red queen’s curtains to make alice a dress and it looked pretty good. but not belle’s

[@soaringsky4416]

If i may add on; very CHEAP curtains as well. My grandma has made a few dresses out of old curtains for Ren faires and they turned out AWESOME.

[@sunnycuteness4196]

Our curtains are a bit better looking than her dress

[@whyhellothere7426]

lmao when my tablecloth has more detail than her dress

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

Even Giselle’s dress made from curtains looked more beautiful than Belle’s live-action dress. Giselle is from a movie called Enchanted, BTW.

[@lightinthedusk]

The problem is that they let Emma Watson have a say in the design of it. She’s not a fashion designer, so she doesn’t have the right “eye” for what works and what doesn’t work, what looks good etc, for a costume. The result is that the dress turned out looking incredibly plain. The part I dislike most is the changes made to the shoulder parts. In Belle’s original dress, it had a gorgeous off-the-shoulder design. Here it’s just simple capped sleeves. The top part of Emma’s dress literally just looks like it could be from a fitted T-shirt. Such a waste, they had the chance to bring the beautiful animated dress to life in the live action remake but instead they went with this basic-af dress

[@Coolhandkelpy]

I think you’re right. There were actually two dresses for the dance in the film, a longer one with less tiers (what even are those tiers?) and the one you see mainly in the film. You can actually see the longer one used in all the merchandizing. Apparently Emma didn’t want to wear the long one for feeling she would trip during dancing (not as if an experienced costume designer would probably not give an actress a death trap if she knew there was a dance scene, but whatever). And also, there are images of the first iteration of that dress having the half-sleeves iconic of dresses in that period. I’m unsure if it was Emma or higher members of production, but either way the sleeves were scrapped, and with that they lost any sense of cohesion with the costume world around it. The corset refusal (which, like the video says, isn’t even a later, waist-cinching corset, they are stays which keep the breasts in place and a foundation for a dress) is just insult to injury.

[@missymani]

It was not only Emma, but Disney executives also wanted to go for a more "modest" dress because they had so much shit for the Cinderella dress by "feminist" sjw because it looked too magical and create unrealistic expectations... I know, it's nonsense.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

@@missymani That was Emma's decision. She said she didn't want a corset because she didn't want to set an unrealistic vision of thinness while ignoring she's naturally got a tinier than many children.

[@holothewisewolf2579]

Omg and you’ve got to mention her terrible singing 😩

[@audrey.c1]

Lets not forget that she requested no corset

[@rosalind24]

The costume designer said when the movie came out, that because Emma Watson refused to wear a corset, she couldn't support the weight of the original costume, and the costume had to be drastically redesigned to make it more wearable without a corset, and the chiffon dress was the best she could come up with to still make it flowy. Basically, Emma Watson's selfishness ruined the film for all of us.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

I agree. Belle isn’t my favorite princess but the actress is here to play Belle, not Emma Watson and express her personal beliefs. Belle’s golden ballgown is just so beautiful and personally one of the most beautiful gowns of the Disney princesses, and that’s what made the scene one of the most iconic scenes Disney ever created! Because its GOLD, it shimmers and makes her shine like a diamond. This dress was so disappointing, not only from it doesn’t even look like the dress but it looks like a diy project gone wrong. My mom made me a beautiful turquoise dress with rhinestones and gathers that looked waay better than the actual dress. This could’ve made Disney live actions worth it if Emma wouldn’t have been so stubborn. Disney should’ve fired her and hired a new actress saying she can express her beliefs somewhere else.

[@CottageDreams23]

At this point, they shouldn't cast her role as belle..

[@BellaDiLo317]

I just saw a Broadway production Beauty and the Beast, and they did such a beautiful gold dress covered in sparkles. The audience literally gasped and applauded when Belle entered in that dress.

[@ophelia4825]

Imagine if they made a PERFECTLY accurate 1700s dress, with ALL the layers, and just let Emma Watson wear it without a corset. She would’ve put her back out

[@MsLacieable]

That'll be hard because dresses back then were so heavy they needed corsets for their backs.

[@ophelia4825]

Orbit exactly

[@Little_Lotta]

Lmao I wish they had

[@tang3151]

The movie would still suck because Emma was a shit choice for Belle.

[@imari2305]

What they could've done was put the boning in the top part of the dress and it will still give the look of a corset with the support needed like they do modern prom and wedding dresses of today. That dress is hideous.

[@amyrat151]

Someone said it perfectly: Cinderella's dress is like a wedding dress everyone will be talking about even after the wedding and Belle's dress is the bridesmaids dress that a bride would pick to be sure none of her bridesmaids will look prettier than her. Three years after that movie came out, and I'm still not over that horrible yellow and how color terribly it photographed.

[@leafii.]

When somebody on Tik tok makes a better belle dress than the actual movie says something that the person was worn out.

[@ashd.3055]

I was just mad they blurred the library scene. They seriously couldn't rent an European castle's library for a day and put a shiny filter on the camera? No, they had to blur CGI it 😭

[@shelbybroaddus4270]

You didn’t even mention the worst part! The embroidery was GLITTER GLUE.

[@batmanlikespizza2541]

Are you serious...?!

[@kayq3231]

The horror!

[@excellent8105]

You're kidding...right?

[@SaveMe0377]

For real?? 😷

[@helolange1132]

Oh Lord...

[@rachel.doremi6974]

This “feminist” argument is so annoying at this point

[@jaykaycee20]

Seriously! I mean because her feminist ways & her say in the dress.. the dress was completely ruined! It really is annoying. 🙄

[@desired2396]

And the costume designer is known for doing great historically accurate costumes and now because of 1 stupid girl she has something bad on her record. All the outfits except for hers had looked slightly historically accurate, I mean most of them had some inaccuracies but that got the idea right!

[@rachel.doremi6974]

I mean it’s not even valid bc a corset was truly meant to act as a bra and a means to keep posture

[@allenallen6719]

I agree, Downgrading the work of costume desingners for her politicar agenda is disrespectful for me

[@Nightwalker-zk6ce]

The thing is, corsets while they were popular were kind of a feminist thing. Lots of the fashion houses and companies that made corsets and high-end gowns were actually owned and staffed by women, being the only industry in Europe for a large portion of history that women outnumbered men in. Becoming a successful designer was really one of the only ways a women could become rich herself through work. The history of corsets is pretty “feminist” if you look into it.

[@laurynstowers2601]

I was actually rather disappointed with Belle’s gown in the live action version of Beauty and the Beast. I understand cartoon dresses can defy the laws of science and whatnot; however, compared to Belle’s dress, the skirt of Emma’s dress appeared forlorn and seemed to hang limply with nothing to support its shape. Additionally, the fact that a corset or stays were not worn beneath the gown’s bodice marred the effect, and did not allow for as much of a whimsical, magical Disney appearance. I had expected something elegant and extravagant, something that would appear expensive and almost unrealistic, as that, I feel, is what I have been trained to expect based upon the other creations that through the art of sketching have been presented to me in the animated versions of these Disney films. Moreover, I would have liked to see more extravagant fabrics used in her dress and heavier embroidery to give it that air of wealth. Overall, the dress was not good, but it was not terrible. In my humble opinion, that is.

[@katierasburn9571]

I agree, its especially bad when compared to live action cinderella, who changed the dress drastically but still made it seem magical!

[@annoyinglysweetobject6650]

Let's just be real, Emma shouldn't have had the role as Belle from the beginning I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but a girl can't sing and the wardrobe for Belle shouldn't have been in her hands. She was the iceberg who sunk the ship, and unfortunately she snagged the door

[@lunarialoonatic]

Her voice rily wasn’t the problem for me considering it’s not like the story revolves around Belle’s voice. But I agree that she played the role not as a princess but as a strong feminist

[@inkatana49]

It felt more like emma watson playing hermione granger pretending to be Belle.

[@TheAroSpecWallet]

​@@inkatana49 tbh I agree

[@AwesomeVidzChannel]

This dress reminds me of those princess cakes where you make the cake look like a dress and stick a barbie doll in the middle.

[@sunni6610]

YIKES..

[@beloveddagger2892]

And someone didn't lay down the fondant quite right.

[@shikshasharma3637]

I had that on my first birthday !!

[@tashaglam4824]

Hey, but at least with a good baker, they can pipe some really nice icing designs on the cake. This is like a newbies first experiment.

[@carowithacam5695]

True 🤣

[@gebilato]

As a feminist I see no problem in wearing a corset, be it in real life or for a movie. This "feminist statement" is the stupidest thing I have ever heard

[@thetillerwiller4696]

Ginny Bretz it was created by men that corsets are terrible.

[@Anna-zp1ok]

@@thetillerwiller4696 Tons of things were created by men. Corsets were the earliest version of a bra. Many corsets if worn properly are comfortable. The whole feminist statement doesn't fly for this. This is movie is set in a different time period & actors & actresses should wear proper clothes accordingly.

[@zebraskin]

@@Anna-zp1ok I've worn corsets regularly for half my life (I have back issues and it helps) and it irks me when actresses complain about corsets being uncomfortable because I guarentee that they (for the most part) aren't seasoning them so of course it's not going to be comfy if you haven't taken the time to mold it to your body. Not to mention the whole corset is against women myth came from me that were threatened by the dominantly woman ran clothing industry.

[@hannahsmucker3518]

@@thetillerwiller4696 Go watch some of karolina zebrowska's videos about corsets

[@MDeLorien]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@sweetmama4491]

I love how Emma said Belle rides a horse like Lily James didn't in Cinderella...

[@MW53516]

An actor’s job is to embody the character’s life and time period. Belle would have worn some sort of corset and nothing in Emma’s portrayal suggested otherwise.

[@DreamMcClinton]

Emma Watson had full control over the dress and truly, it was a grave mistake

[@melissam597]

I hate how she overlooked historical accuracy to be “woke” 😒

[@dania2369]

What do you mean full control

[@stephanielim5544]

@@melissam597 you don't say? I love her back in harry potter now she's just this woke person who doesn't even know how harsh life can be and how most women in America or England are way more privileged for them to start wailing of inequality. Now I just realized that all this time it was Hermione granger who i actually idolized, because Emma and Hermione are different person.

[@megan166]

@@melissam597 She also relied heavily on the design's of Dan Stevens's (Beast) daughter, who was a very little girl at the time. So, what we have literally came from the expertise of someone who has only lived a whopping 5 or 6 years in this world, and whose sense of fashion is heavily influenced by the toy market. It shows! I know she was going for, "let's make it for the little girls. If a little girl designs it the. They'll all love it!" Unfortunately, little girls are best left to make choices from adult designs, not the other way around.

[@DocKrazy]

@@stephanielim5544 I agree EW is comlletely overrated. My opinion: if the role of Belle would have been given to a (maybe lesser known but) competent actress, who can fulfil the requirements to participate in a musical (you know... As in... Can actually sing) this movie could have had an inkling of a chance. I had the impression they added some of the lesser plot-lines because "queen of the internet" wanted them. Same with the dress. And I'm not saying EW is the root of the problems with that film, but she is certainly part of it.

[@ihavelemonade5640]

It's like they tried not to be sexist but then ended up being sexist, and the dress looks like what you'd buy your 8 year old daughter for halloween in Walmart.

[@clenchedbuttchecks4228]

No the dress is WORSE than the Halloween Walmart dresses

[@zeithqueen5044]

Lmao so true xD

[@cjripley32]

Honestly, though!

[@idollafan2872]

Look cheap dress than expensive couture dress by designer.

[@mermaidethereal3578]

And people think the original movie is sexist.

[@phiafleming5381]

Bruh I was so impressed with the 2015 Cinderella dress it was just so perfect and so I was excited to see what Belle’s dress was going to look like… but oh god I was just so sad.

[@orangemarissa50]

Can we also talk about in the opening sequence, where we meet Belle, many of the background characters are wearing blue. Something that was supposed to only be wore by Belle to help her stand out as strange and different to the town citizens. But in the live action she blends in with the rest of them, making her seem part of the town.

[@srosey3443]

I feel like the designer probably had amazing plans for this dress, and was probably crushed when Emma refused to wear a corset

[@yossyasmey8245]

Ikr

[@felixwinter6176]

@Dani Damien Yes, but they are more referring to the fact that a lot of the support needed for a bigger extravagant, century-accurate dress would need a corset for it to not end up incredibly badly.

[@StoneOfMoon]

@Dani Damien Lily James’ Cinderella dress was corseted, and yet simple and elegant. Tell me again how would a corset not work. I’ll be waiting.

[@ingloriousMachina]

@@StoneOfMoon I think the point is that the yellow dress is so ugly that nothing could save it.

[@StoneOfMoon]

@@ingloriousMachina a corset could help hold A LOT of puff volume. It would definitely save the dress. Otherwise, if remaining non corseted, it’s unsalvageable unless changing half the design haha

[@beththomson1372]

I find it ironic that feminist actresses refuse to wear corsets as a ‘statement’. The reason people think these entirely inaccurate myths about corsets is because of misogyny. Men felt threatened by a widely female-run industry- corset making. So they invited rumours and exaggerated stories about them so that the industry would fail. Saying it’s a feminist statement to not wear a corset is a tad ignorant and perhaps these people should do some research on them before forming a full opinion.

[@lenayasutake6824]

*mic dropped*

[@abelxa]

corsets were like a bra back then. and what’s wrong with a little support?

[@thetillerwiller4696]

a b e l x a • exactly! Corsets made you fell good. It didn’t matter if you ate 3 slices of cake, your corset got your back. Lmao

[@zebraskin]

Came to say the exact thing

[@frenchbreadstupidity7054]

@@thetillerwiller4696 Pretry sure if you want people to believe that corsets were torso support and not intended to warp the body into having a tiny waist, you should not be talking about indulging in unhealthy food and being molded by your corset to still look attractive. Your claim defies the other argument.

[@daynee26]

Mother : Wheres our curtains? Belle : 👁👄👁

[@cocothecat8939]

Animated dress: rich draped gold satin Live-action dress: sad floppy banana voilé

[@morganejourdain3654]

I don't understand why they always give Emma Watson so much freedom over her costumes. This dress was an absolute disaster in every way. Micarah Tewers made a video on how the costumes of little women didn't deserve an oscar, and she also explains how terrible the dress of Belle is, and created her own vision of what the dress should have been (she is amazing at making great costumes). I understand Emma Watson's intention concerning corsets, but she obviously doesn't master her topic enough to be given so much freedom over her costume...

[@slaymil]

i was gonna comment about micarah until i found yours!! love her, she also said this era in france would have been about structure and artifice (if i remember correctly) and emma's dress is too flowy and ethereal. it was such a waste edit: the word she used was whimsical and not ethereal, I misquoted her

[@LadyB_20]

I agree with what Micarah said there too!

[@jessefulton8841]

Morgane Jourdain love ur reference to micarah! That’s awesome! Totally agree.

[@jessefulton8841]

She’s also being paid.... a TON of money.. throw ur political agenda elsewhere and at least do ur historical research before assuming you know anything about the era. That is why the job should be left to the designers not the ACTors.. what’s your job again?? Oh that’s right ACTING.

[@Mondoshawn]

People who watch micarah should kind of know that its called stays not corset

[@streamagoraphobic8565]

Everyone's talking about the dress but don't talk about how unsettling the hair is...

[@priscillaruiz687]

Honestly bothered me equally...

[@Mrreowmeowmrreowmrowmeow]

What's wrong with the hair?

[@EyelinerAce]

@@Mrreowmeowmrreowmrowmeow it's too subtle for the time period

[@Mrreowmeowmrreowmrowmeow]

@@EyelinerAce oh

[@melissam597]

It wasn’t dark enough for Belle either, her hair in Little Women looked more suitable for this movie

[@SK22520]

Love this analysis! I’m always surprised about the corset thing, how in modern pop culture the corset is portrayed as a torture device when it wasn’t really that.

[@IngenuityFortress]

So I actually met someone that worked on this film and they were telling me some things that reminded me of your video. Let's just say you are right the designer had other plans but someone made a stink about her ideas and so she had to quickly change the costume.

[@elirchi9214]

I feel like she’s the historical costume adviser, but the producers silenced her in favor of Emma Watson’s uneducated views on corsets.

[@lemooniii835]

They should've atleast curled her hair? Make her wear some jewelries? Gosh.

[@alishamertelus1340]

Ikr? She looks so plain!

[@m.syauqiabdurahman2798]

Even cinderella have a little swarovski crystal in her hair

[@ayianne3298]

Ikr-

[@articxunodorseggnej8016]

@@Raya-ir4tm ironic she’s a model for Burberry

[@sweetmama4491]

The worse part is that she DID wear jewellery. That ear cuff and necklace.

[@khwezi9576]

As much as I love Emma Watson, she just wasn't the best choice for Belle, who was subtle, patient, calm and easy-going and that's what makes her so admirale and lovable. The way Emma plays Belle is the polar opposite, and it kind of feels like I'm watching a calmer Hermione. Personality heavily affects the tone of the story. In the end it doesn't feel as memorable and strong as the original. Her dress certainly didn't help the situation. Very underwhelming.

[@mel-by7vs]

Finally, some one who shares their opinion in a respectful way. That wouldn’t hurt Emma Watson’s feeling

[@Sophie_Pea]

i think maybe what they were trying to go for was that belle had these walls up because of how the town treated her and what happened with her mother, and the beast helped her let those walls down and in turn they both learned a life lesson. but the execution of it was done really terribly which i think is probably the issue. it might not be emma’s acting in the movie that’s the problem, it’s probably the writing and/or directing

[@jt-tq8lz]

yeah, I think another actress would’ve been better. The movie could’ve been so much

[@-faramoluwanbi-6469]

Hm. I see what you mean. That makes a lot of sense

[@vanessashola6806]

She also can’t sing, so picking her for a movie where her character sings some of the most memorable songs is not a good idea because it just ends up being a bunch of auto tune

[@popculturecurious4535]

I really did not like the live action dress. It looks too modern, while everyone else is historically accurate. I mean it's nice on its own, but when we've seen everyone else in the more extravagant outfits, it just looks so underwhelming! It would be like showing up to a world class restaurant in t-shirts and jeans.

[@anmolthakur5615]

This is a prom dress I'd never choose to wear 😌

[@Alexandra_K_]

I feel like they created this vibe of “Belle isn’t like OTHER girls, she’s a feminist and she actually reads books and is SMART so she doesn’t wear fancy ballgowns and she never wears makeup and barely does her hair!” which is why literally EVERYONE is dressed nicer than her, even in the only scene that she has a fancy ballroom moment. And that vibe is cool, Belle isn’t focused on appearance which is part of her charm, but I think clinging to that idea just made the most iconic scene seem lackluster. Also I can’t stand the idea that a smart feminist woman inherently doesn’t care about fancy clothes, hair, and makeup. Like why couldn’t belle be smart, kind, focused on inner beauty, but ready to serve looks at the “ball”?

[@hatawaaztec4270]

So she needs to look like the girl in a cheap prom dress to reveal her "inner beauty"? What the point of a ball scene and a grand reveille of this horrible dress if not to emphasize her beauty? If she is so feminist that rejects fancy dresses (the closing and jewelry, btw were the only capital women were allowed to have those days and she just... reject it??) why they made a whole scene where she is flaunts in this "beautiful" (no) dress instead of just give her something simple to wear? This scene was IMPLIED as the moment of her heyday, but through the efforts of Emma Watson and the team of costumers, they turned this magical moment into a laughing stock. If Belle does not care about her appearance that much, why did she put on a "beautiful" dress, and did not stay in the clothes she wore in the village? This is simply the poor work of costumers and the inept use of the word "feminism" as an excuse for their own unprofessionalism.

[@ingloriousMachina]

Just because she's beautiful on the inside doesn't mean she shouldn't want to be beautiful on the outside. It isn't vain or shallow to want to look your absolute best for a special dance.

[@morhy5501]

I think that you are right. They gave her clothes that made her different, not fitting to those time in purpose. Simple and classy that just support her beauty, without a need of creating it. (Tho I didn't like the yellow dress :c)

[@HolandaChiquita]

But in the original that is the only time she wears a gown like that. Why would it be against her "believes" to wear something awesome for once? I personally think they also did it because they wanted to make it look a little more modernised. Which failed.

[@lolipanda2763]

@@hatawaaztec4270 Nice reply😂

[@byztor3341]

As a medieval-style seamstress, I had to roll my eyes at the feminist corset statement. Corsets are one of the most comfortable pieces of clothing I've ever worn. Like as a big-chested girl, corsets help alleviate so much pain because they support the entire torso and not just the chest. They are a historical item of clothing that allowed women to function in life. But she wouldn't know any of that because no one does any real research on anything anymore.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

As an expert in this field, I'm very glad to see how many people in the comments here actually have done research. What dismays me is that Emma, with her massive platform, doesn't bother to do a damned google search before popping off at the mouth about how they were torture devices.

[@lillimango51]

She would never understand because - as my impression of her goes she would only know about herself. Most certainly not about women with a different body type not to say a hard physical working lifestyle.

[@fulichak6499]

I'm a feminist and I always get pissed at what she said about corsets, she said something along the lines of "gender stereotypes"....like, what? Corsets can be worn by anyone, yes, but they are specifically made for people with busts, so I didn't understand her statement, it's like saying I hate bras because I hate gender stereotypes

[@1tommyday]

Cinderella was the best Disney remake movie BY FAR. They got that movie right. And what a dress! Blew me away

[@ChezMymy]

I agree. Cinderella 2015 is actually one of my favorite movies. The colors, the story, the actors, the magic, the originality... in short everything was well thought and realized. The prince had a true role! The movie stands for itself, the story is coherent from beginning to end, there are new songs and music etc... Beauty and the Beast was a copy/paste of the animation movie... even the songs were the same, the scenes too etc... so little change!! I was so disappointed... Actually, I prefer the animation movie. The scene where the prince is turning into a human is far better (for me) than in the live action.

[@nandimkhize]

Emma was so annoying with how she approached the role of Belle in general. She seemed to take the role thinking she could fix Belle, which she did not. They just ruined it. From the dress, to the singing to the acting. This isn’t really Emma’s fault but when they ruined the library scene, I was sooooooo mad

[@svscrib8922]

ALSO it MUST be noted that corsets were, in fact, a HIGHLY feminist statement during this era. It gave structural support for the working women to do their jobs, and it wasn’t incredibly cinched to give an hourglass look at all times. It was often very breathable, that women would even EXERCISE in corsets in order to maintain stability. These new “feminist” actresses are completely uneducated in historical fashion, as they are not expected to. However, throwing around blatantly uneducated points of “female oppression” is so cringey.

[@TheStepmonkey]

SV SCRIB Exactly!

[@ModernGurlz]

​@Maria Giulia Rodriguez you have your timeline so confused. the late 1800s (not the mid 1700s which is when this film would've taken place) is when tight-lacing increased in popularity and became common practice. THAT'S when people actually tried to change their natural shape with a corset (like a modern day waist trainer) and it's what most people think ALL corsets are. unlike modern times where people tend to overexert themselves by attempting to tight-lace themselves into a corset quickly, women of the 1700s wore a corset/stays (NOT a tight one) from very early ages. it made wearing them natural (like a bra) and it was VERY rare for it to actually adjust organ placement. corsets in the 1700s were made with materials of the time and thus were much softer than modern corsets. in regard to the working class they didn't own multiple corsets, they'd have one that they would wear until it couldn't be used anymore, this made their personal corset soft and worn. corsets in the 1700s were literally used as back support (those dresses were HEAVY) and it wasnt until the victorian/edwardian period that the 18-inch waist was what people strived for. you can't lump one time period with another, especially when we're talking about historical accuracy. there is so much research about this i highly recommend checking it out.

[@mpvf0]

Exactly! Bernadette Banner has an amazing video on the misconceptions of corsetry! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHbbe6ahd7-WjZI

[@thenightingale3347]

YES! thank you! "She rides horses" gurl all women rode horses back then and had to wear a corset because a) posture is very important when horse riding and b) your chest will behave as if on their own personal trampoline

[@caitlinhill8876]

@Maria Giulia Rodriguez To be fair men didnt wear the extravagant dresses women did,and also men dont have boobs.

[@akinela1214]

When Belle cosplayers that do the costume with a small team do it better than the official

[@ryu9192]

FACTS

[@mothxii5598]

Sometimes even by themselves!

[@vilmavenla]

​@@mothxii5598 i read an article about how a 5 year old helped design the dress... i'm not making this up.

[@isabella-hp7fo]

I literally forgot HOW bad the dress was, when you showed the first clip of it I literally gasped. All the magic & beauty of the original movie and the original dress.. gone.

[@Fearlesss55]

Okay but I LOVE the live action Cinderella dress, it’s gorgeous

[@sof_t_]

Emma saying that corsets are "anti-feminist" and restricting only shows how gosh darn sexist her idea of corsets is. Women DID do everything in corsets, so her saying Belle wouldn't wear a corset to be able to do everything is like saying she wouldn't wear a skirt for the same reason. Like, hell, give Belle a sweatshirt and leggins if you care about comfort and don't care about historical accuracy, why not.

[@gravyz2cute4u]

Agreed, otherwise how would anyone get any work done if they were supposedly "restricted" in their corsets? haha Yes, you could run in a corset, dance in a corset and definitely ride in a corset! I would love to see what Belle's dress would have looked like if they had indeed incorporated a corset and had allowed the designers more creative freedom to create an actual magical princess dress which looked as awesome as the singer's dress. Fair enough, maybe Emma didn't want to be carting around 10kg worth of fabric like Cinderella's dress was, but seriously, iconic characters need to have an equally iconic dress.

[@kittenmimi5326]

Hell yea, have her wear the causal dress luke on wreck it ralph 2 and turn it into a joke movie. It might be more interesting then 😂

[@rattyk7042]

I still think casting Emma as Belle is a bad choice till this day

[@sof_t_]

@@rattyk7042 I just think they should've at least chosen someone who can sing 😅

[@daninoa9650]

Funnily enough, corsets were actually comfortable and supportive and served the purpose of supporting the bust and straightening the back beyond creating a specific silhouette (tightlacing corsets every day wasn't common). Also, if Emma Watson were as educated on women's rights and feminism as she likes to portray herself, she would know that men were actually the ones to spread misinformation about corsets in the first place... (edit: I wrote 'of' instead of 'if' and it was bothering me haha)

[@sophiawilson3249]

As an actor, you’re living INSIDE the time period as the character you’re portraying. So, while I understand not wanting to wear a corset as a feminist statement, that’s not accurate to the time period. I respect her morals, but acting isn’t about your personal morals, it’s about becoming this other character with completely different morals. Also, if a costume designer says you’re wearing a corset YOURE WEARING A CORSET. It’s just basic respect for the designers, idc if you’re a celebrity.

[@soundeffects2.044]

Thank you for using the proper term of actor.

[@004slade]

Sophia Wilson I think that no matter what an actor has agency over her body. So if she didn’t want to wear it she shouldn’t be forced. If the need to fire her so be it

[@robyndare7723]

Thing is it's so violently against her character too. Belle was always the most mature, no nonsense of the Disney princesses, and putting her in a flowy unstructured whimsical dress is so opposite to her down to earth character

[@satsujin4027]

@@004slade I think the problem here was not that she didn't want to use the corset as a feminist statement, but the fact that she put that above other workers and that her statement doesn't even make sense considering the history of corsets is what bothered me the most. She forced her opinion on others while being ignorant on the subject.

[@cyancyborg1477]

After all this, it's all based on a misconception anyway. Corsets aren't a tool of the patriarchy to control women, it was originally a female-run industry, just like bras. Corsets=bad is ironically a result of misogynistic backlash against those women who became self sufficient off their businesses.

[@I_hope_I_dont_fall]

I remember watching the movie like 3 years ago. Rewatching the ball scene, all I could say was "Her dress is flatter than I remember."

[@ShootingStarStudio]

It always makes me laugh when the costume fails happen to literally just the main character. Like, it’s sad, but also funny.

[@nadonado648]

it doesn’t even look Victorian, it’s kinda looks like a simple “wedding gown” in yellow.

[@Antisocial_Cryptid13]

More like a prom dress. Believe me, I work with outdoor weddings, and even the more simple wedding dresses are more elegant than the gowns Belle wears.

[@maddiekrause5266]

It doesn’t take place in the Victorian era. It takes place in the 18th century. Victorian era doesn’t start until the 19th century.

[@plague_victim532]

Tbf a Victorian dress would’ve been closer to accurate, not by any stretch accurate but at least...historical

[@maryryan1571]

It’s not Victorian

[@professionalmilfhunter3006]

Mary Ryan I think they mean that the dress doesn’t even reach the elegance and structure of a Victorian dress, nonetheless a Rococo dress! :)

[@vrnica4448]

I don’t think Emma Watson was the best choice for belle imo.

[@heavenbounddaughter1125]

I agree.

[@escapeflower1727]

I agree

[@dezibevineau9782]

Agreed

[@sallytritton5242]

I disagree

[@shirazummunira7863]

Agree

[@lauras5359]

I think Emma needs to take another look at what feminism means because she has it completely wrong and ruined her costumes because of it.

[@lauras5359]

@@offsewingdragons9142 interesting take. Love it

[@nidhibagari3250]

The Cinderella dress set the bar so high that now everything feels underwhelming. That being said, Bella's dress was quite underwhelming

[@wapaa26]

I was waiting for that “WOW” factor when Belle came out to reveal her dress. I’m still waiting

[@alexagurrola170]

Me too

[@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices]

The dress they use in the Disney Parks could have been used and it would have looked better

[@motzerita6161]

Your not the only one

[@didia3608]

same..

[@didia3608]

@@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices BAHAH

[@HelloGoodbye2085]

Corsets aren’t oppressive they are undergarments. You can wear a corset without tight lacing. If it was such a problem for her she could have just worn stays

[@derdiedasmims2203]

And they are comfy. When you wear them correct.

[@lucifernazaedi]

Weren’t corsets made to hold the dress up on a woman and to help with posture?

[@Dandidoodles]

@@lucifernazaedi yeah they were pretty beneficial and helped with supporting you and your outfit. (That is if worn correctly otherwise it could hurt you)

[@Halo-rg6dr]

@@lucifernazaedi Yes but nowadays they are made to make you look super skinny, rather than giving support for the dress. And since everyone always needs a woman to be skinny in order for her to be pretty, corsets are pretty much an oppression on women nowadays because of their new purpose.

[@lucifernazaedi]

@@Halo-rg6dr Every woman wants a tall man. You can't change height but you can change weight so I find it stupid anyone makes that argument. Plus, corsets do not make you *super skinny* but rather put more definition on your curves. Nonetheless, corsets can't be oppression if it is out of the woman's will to wear them. I know women who wear them and they wear them because they like them.. not to impress anyone. And corsets are also used for better posture and for medical purposes.

[@acinomthecat]

Can you imagine if Belle's dress was designed and layered to look like a rose flower?

[@Wizard608]

yeah the skirt could've had more shape 🤦‍♂️

[@ElysiaMaerda]

Even OUAT, a tv show, did Belle's golden yellow dress better than the movie did. That's just really sad given the budget difference.

[@judescardan]

i’m so glad someone mentioned this! the fact that OUAT was able to do better than this movie just says so much about it.

[@letsjazzitup]

Emma shouldnt have been chosen for the role if she refused to wear the era's clothing for storytelling accuracy

[@hehehehehehe653]

SHE ISN'T EVEN THAT GOOD OF A SINGER! compared to paige o'hara (the original belle) she is mediocre and autotune ruins some of the best songs. they could have cast the girl from the Phantom of the Opera movie. she is so beautiful and an amazing singer.

[@Joi_Linlin]

nina o’hanlon Emma can sing but they auto tuned her voice to sound like the original singer

[@mkuwu4724]

Yeaaaah, corsets aren’t uncomfortable if they are created for your waist and body type. The actresses that say they felt faint didn’t have the proper fitting for the corset. You can do all sorts of things in a corset if it is properly fitted and not tied tightly. Actually you don’t even need to tie a corset tight at all for it to achieve the look

[@worstusernameintheworld9871]

tbh Emma was such a karen for doing something like that

[@corrinelewis1842]

Facts

[@cherryblossomtree44]

It’s an ugly dress, very inaccurate and not eye catching. Plus corsets are historically accurate. If she wanted to make a feminist statement she wouldn’t have signed up for a multimillion dollar Disney movie where the princess falls in love with her captor. Don’t care for Emma Watson and I didn’t bother to watch this film. What a shame.

[@katiebayliss9887]

stephanie I mean I wouldn’t call him her captor, she chose to stay(albeit to take her father’s place)

[@katiebayliss9887]

Izzy Izzy ah this story isn’t bullshit.

[@katiebayliss9887]

Izzy Izzy uh, he didn’t take her by force. She chose to take her father’s place, she sacrificed herself for her father. Did you watch the movie? It’s very important that she agreed on her own.

[@katiebayliss9887]

Izzy Izzy and also she didn’t start to like the beast until he actively changed himself on his own accord and started acting kinder and didn’t realize she loved him until after he told her to leave him(pretty much sacrificing his life for her)

[@katiebayliss9887]

Izzy Izzy brah I know this is late, but the morals of Beauty and the Beast are self sacrificing for those you love and putting people you love needs before your own(Belle chooses to take her father’s place, the beast tells Belle to go to her father(it was his idea) even though he knows he’s going to die and even tells her to take the mirror with her even though he could have kept it to look at her) redemption, forgiveness, personal growth, learning to not judge someone for being different(Belle for being an introverted bookworm and the beast for looking like the beast) the whole thing about Gaston and the townspeople is that they look at things skin deep and judge things for being different from them, they love Gaston because he’s a good hunter and he’s handsome and muscular, but he’s arrogant and rude and a slob. The townspeople are small minded and are just okay with their day to day toiling and their status quo. Gaston is what the Beast would be without the enchantment or without meeting Belle, or without having the servants. Lafou is Gaston‘s yes man, who’s in his shadow because of the status it gets him, in some parts of the movie he’s just as viscous. Gaston wants to marry Belle because she’s beautiful, but then wants to take all her uniqueness away and just turn her into his housewife and incubator. Where are the Beast recognizes her kindness, maturity, intelligence, charm and he wants to do something for HER, something that she likes, something personal, he encourages and accepts what other people call her weird for, he embraces it. (Which is something she said she wanted the song “Belle” “and for once It might be grand, to have someone understand”)I’ve never felt this way for someone before. I want to do something for her”. If he was just her captor she wouldn’t have came back and nurses him back to health, she would have left him in he woods and he wouldn’t have saved her from the wolves and also if this was her being timid she wouldn’t have yelled at him while she was tending to his wounds, Belle isn’t dumb, or timid or naive. She’s emotionally and mentally mature, maybe curious and a little wanderlust, but she’s not a dreamy headed 16 year old like Ariel. I’m not saying this is or isn’t a feminist film, but I think it helps that the one person who said anything explicit sexist(“women shouldn’t read they’ll get ideas” wanting Belle to throw away any of her own ambitions or wants and just be his “little wife”(which she totally resents) and to rub his feet) is shown as the villain and the leader of a literal angry mob and then dies horribly at the end. Sorry for the Ted talk, but I absolutely love this movie and hate when people get shit mixed up about it.

[@annasolovyeva1013]

Gold is expensive... Though they could get a darker yellow, an ochre colour - that's more accurate and looks stunning under the cinematic lighting. Than you get some golde emboidery and some shimmering on top - and here you are. Belle's wedding dress also could have been the 2nd rococo, making the castle stuck in time past the revolution.

[@thatoneerumpenthorn1512]

I love how in 1:48 Moana is just wearing a noticeably different and unique outfit compared to all the other Disney princesses.

[@SuperGirl-uj5lq]

I always thought that Cinderella's live action dress looked a lot more like Belle's animated dress.

[@j-l-c-0088]

Yeah just blue instead of gold

[@kekw5153]

Oh shit u arent wrong it has that V kind of look on the shoulders

[@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices]

And there are a crap ton of yellow dresses in the background of the ballroom scene that would have looked stunning on Belle! All of the dresses in that movie, although maybe not entirely historically accurate, they still make an effort to resemble the 1840s and 50s, and on top of that, they're absolutely gorgeous! The thing is, a bunch of the dresses in the Live-Action BATB are accurate to the 1760s-80s as well, and they look wonderful! So it baffles me how they put Belle in such a terrible 'gown'!

[@_Biscuitbear]

Yeah except the colour.

[@yukiket5281]

Sameee

[@KR-ue1gd]

How is it a "feminist statement" to refuse to honor the real life clothing choices of our fore-mères? Is it feminist to say to centuries of women, most of whom made their own intimate apparel, that they were stupid? Or that their method of supporting their breasts and distributing the weight of their skirts was oppressive?

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

This is the best answer. This is exactly why her "statement" falls apart. Thank you.

[@deathsanguish4091]

Good point. Some women still wear a modern version of a corset to fashion or for practical support. I thought being a feminist was about choice? Belle could read, work the land and look after her elderly father, I highly doubt Belle was forced into a corset. Emma was given too much leeway by the director. The director of "Little women" obviously didn't because she wore a corset in "Little women".

[@faraway-2009]

Corsets are actually very feminist because the thing about corsets being harmful was a myth created by men who felt threatened by a primarily women-run industry. Also, tight lacing was only a thing rich people did for fancy balls and stuff, it was not the norm.

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

@@faraway-2009 Even then, tight lacing was seen as a very vain thing to do. Some did it occasionally, but people more often than not talked badly behind their backs for doing so. It was the 18th - 19th century version of plastic surgery.

[@jamesofhoenn4790]

Contrary to popular belief, the corset In Pirates of the Caribbean wasn’t an image of oppression and restrictions. It was a plot device. Elizabeth’s corset was over tightened by her servants (since they are a small English settlement, they likely didn’t use such high-end garments that often, as noted by Governor Swan’s comment “I’m told it’s the latest fashion in London”) which caused Elizabeth to go light headed after James Norrington began to propose, causing Jack to save Elizabeth, slice the ties off, and discover the medallion she hid. It was a very well executed series of events that keeps getting misunderstood.

[@darthdaddy3071]

that makes a lot of sense. It wasn't like Elizabeth had to appear in court every day, wearing extravagant, heavy gowns that required a full-boned corset. She lived in an English colony in the Caribbean, not London or Paris.

[@ama200]

THEY DIDN’T EVEN MAKE HER WEAR THE GLOVES! THE GLOVEESSSS!!!!

[@PedroMRDS]

Emma Watson taking off the corset because she thought corsets were a sexist torture device to achieve unreal beauty standards is so ignorant and devoid of any knowlage of history, it's beyond me.

[@nofybn7794]

Well you are a guy, you don't know too much. You are the ignorant one. SHE IS RIGHT!!

[@jabby6709]

@ nofy bn I can find three videos made by GIRLS about why the guy you’re responding to is right, and you’re wrong. Do research

[@Kat-yv1yq]

nofy bn I’m a woman, but more importantly a historian and Emma Watson couldn’t have been further from the truth. The corset was actually once a garment of empowerment for women. Make of that what you will and maybe do some research before you pretend that you know all about historical sexism simply because you are a woman.

[@regann7227]

@@nofybn7794 no you are the incorrect one here.

[@allmachtigenallergroter5298]

nofy bn Sexist, much?

[@assholic666]

It’s so ugly and looks cheap as hell 😭😭 I’m sure you could get the exact same piece on AliExpress. Just put slap some glitter glue on it and voila.

[@yippedoodah]

That's what they literally did in the movie. "Oh look, there's some extra glitter on the ceiling! Lemme just uh...aaaaand....done!"

[@marlenasylwiasidor3225]

My thoughts exactly. The simple style, the overall single color, the lack of any structural support. It's just like one of those prom dresses from Ali. Overall it just looks too... plain. It also looks like your basic modern gown. Not like a princess dress at all.

[@awaywiththefaeries9464]

The fabric looks extremely thin as well.

[@jennifercole337]

Like I've literally seen cosplays and costumes of this dress that look ten times more expensive and you know they had nowhere near this movie's budget

[@iamapieceofcandy]

😫😫😫😫😂😂😂😂😂 ali express

[@AlexMocha]

Tbh this is making me care more about what year I have my story’s in and what there wearing- ty for bring this into light for me- and this was very detailed and I appreciate that your talking about it so in depth

[@koushi9425]

I have nothing against Emma, but since the movie's called Beauty and the Beast, she should portray Belle instead of herself.

[@koushi9425]

But I do have a lot of things against the dress tho, I never thought I'd say this but, my Royale High dress is better, now some of you might think "But it's really easy to buy skirts", "I bet you have like 20 skirts" here's the thing, I only have 3 skirts and a corset, I'm broke asf but I think my outfit is better 🐵

[@billnye9552]

I think overall the big problem with the movie was Emma Watson, if she was a true feminist she would know that corsets where created by women for women.

[@esejsnake1503]

Still wrong. Men wore corsets commonly when they were first introduced.

[@Nightwalker-zk6ce]

Esej Snake Most of the companies and fashion houses that made corsets when they were in peak use were owned and run by women. It was one of the only industries dominated by women at the time.

[@nic0a206]

tbh that statement is giving out buzfeed feminism level vibes

[@Nightwalker-zk6ce]

Nic0a It totally is, I’m disappointed in Emma

[@evasdreamingoutloud]

Yeah. In my opinion Emilie de Ravin, who plays Belle in Once Upon a Time would have been a better choice

[@sarahewson3607]

The dress in the live action looks like one of those expectation vs. reality pictures you see about buying things online.

[@panda-peanut]

I thought the same thing. Like they blew their dress budget on Cinderella and had to get Belle's dress from Wish.

[@Neha-ue3uk]

@@panda-peanut AHAHAHAHHA

[@beloveddagger2892]

Lol, I agree. It's sad that the Hot Topic version looks better.

[@NameName-yj7lp]

BelovedDagger Kids dresses look better

[@beloveddagger2892]

@@NameName-yj7lp Lol, exactly.

[@kenzieandrewsarm4849]

I just wish it was gold, sparkly and had an off the shoulder poofy sheer sleeve moment with frill trim, oh and those layers on the dress gone, I want a "bell" shaped silhouette for the skirt (no pun intended)

[@Emma-dp8lh]

kinda irrelevent but i feel like some feminists that forget that they are allowed to like feminine things and still be a feminist, like how most people went through an "i hate pink phase, ew" when they actually liked pink but didnt want to seem girly. you are allowed to dress "unmodestly" without it being for other people.

[@karensimonpeterson3574]

Clearly, Emma Watson in her attempts to be a “feminist “, influenced the design of her costumes. As a theatrical costume designer (for 32 years) I have NEVER had an actor influence my design decisions. Actors wear whatever. I design for them and I have always tried to be as historically accurate as time and budget allows. Thank you for this video. It really struck a nerve for me.

[@jdb8104]

she's the ultimate KAREN in hollywood

[@xladyfayre]

While I liked Emma in the movie, she probably should have been fired for not wearing it or they should have tried to build support into the costume so it fit the time period. Overall, I liked the movie but that scene is the most lackluster because she looks way too modern compared to everyone else in it.

[@HolandaChiquita]

Emma Watson really very much wanted to be in this film. And it seemed that Disney also very much wanted her to be in it. They just worked with and around her. Her singing isn't great, so they improved on it. And if she wanted to make a feminist statement, they just let her run with it, because if makes for even more positive selling points. It sort of fits with the character she is portraying, even though the original didn't feel the need to oversell on that. I think that if actors have reasonable doubts or requests during a film, they should be discussed and agreed to where and when possible without it taking away from the final product. I think in this case her "demands" went too far, even if meant with good intentions. It's too bad.

[@user-ey9uj6vp9s]

I work for tv in Europe and i’m so confused, actors here have zero say over what they wear, the thought of someone refusing to wear something would be an instant recast lol.

[@user-ey9uj6vp9s]

@afootineachworld What would you mean with inappropriate? It's pretty clearly presented what the "depiction" of the character is before applying for the part. You can make some demands in your contract like not showing certain parts of your body uncovered, but otherwise refusing to wear something (albeit health related issues aside) will probably end up in getting you fired. Taking a princess role but refusing to wear a corset because you're trying to make a statement (which doesn't even make any sense) is imo a dick move and it would never have been accepted where I work.

[@MortMe0430]

I think it's not just the dress that sticks out in a bad way, it's her whole appearance. Her hair and makeup are too modern; like I think even her eyebrows are noticeably modern in their shaping if that makes any sense. Her hairstyle just says 'Hermione but straighter' (the texture that is). When I think of women in good period pieces set pre-20th century, they almost always have some degree of curl or wave to their hair because curls/waves are genetically more common, I read somewhere. And her posture... eesh.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

I saw a pre-release showing, and the unanimous reviews among those talking was that it was like Hermione phoned in a some line-reading.

[@kate2create738]

Idk why, but it made me think of Keira Knightly and how she is professional to let the crew do their work with no complaints. And she ended up looking stunning because of it.

[@iRinnda]

Now I feel a slight bit more special for having naturally almost bone straight hair, like I don't even need a straightener. XD And I'm sorry to say this, but I also think Emma did wrong for refusing to wear a corset she was originally provided. You are an actor, your job is to bring the character you're acting to life. It's not about some feminist statement told through the movie, but telling the actual story as it is. If the director makes poor choices along the way that's on them, but don't you make the production any more difficult, because you know what you signed up for when you read the script and accepted the role. Please.

[@purevenus6359]

Last I checked, wasn't the style back then over the top wigs and curly/wavy hair was all the rage. Its odd, because even in the cartoon Belle has wavy hair... I dont understand why they wanted to make it straight.

[@lolwut6635]

@@purevenus6359 To distance her from Hermione. Didn't work out too well tho.

[@davidkonevky7372]

The dress itself is gorgeous, but it looks "prom" gorgeous, not "old french upper class fashion" gorgeous, which really takes you out of the inmersion

[@maitreyi3466]

Exactlyy

[@Jayschannelnow]

This Outlander pic!!! That is literally my favorite dress EVER