Firing Arrows Like a Mongolian Warrior

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The Modern Rogue

The Modern Rogue

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@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
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@UltraRicardopp
@UltraRicardopp 6 жыл бұрын
=D
@rini8330
@rini8330 6 жыл бұрын
The Modern Rogue love you guys
@UnxleDwsky
@UnxleDwsky 6 жыл бұрын
Love you guys
@DrRevolutionGaming
@DrRevolutionGaming 6 жыл бұрын
where can we look for or buy these kinda bows ?
@Spacen1213
@Spacen1213 6 жыл бұрын
Please keep the sjw side of cracked at bay I loved cracked before they got political. If you do that the site will succeed. As the sjw side killed the site. Don't make the same mistake I want you guys to do well.
@DarthTwilight
@DarthTwilight 3 жыл бұрын
This guy has the patience of a saint, dealing with these two.
@brytonmassie
@brytonmassie 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they are still pretty respectful.
@leo03f
@leo03f 3 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah 🤣🤣 they are so nuts🤣
@yodatits8569
@yodatits8569 3 жыл бұрын
the one with grey hair is cool but the other one is kinda annoying tbh
@yngveellingsen3545
@yngveellingsen3545 3 жыл бұрын
It was a bit of a pain to watch, to be honest. I winced at the dry firing. He was admirably calm about it.
@ZephrymWOW
@ZephrymWOW 3 жыл бұрын
@@yngveellingsen3545 Doing that by accident using that grip isnt really uncommon. I don't think he did it on purpose lol.
@rustyshackelford3718
@rustyshackelford3718 5 жыл бұрын
That guy was absolutely awesome. Not just super educated and accurate but willing to adapt to different learning styles to get people to learn in a way that suits them. This man should be a teacher of sorts. True passion for his area of study and the ability to adapt.
@bubbasgod9336
@bubbasgod9336 Жыл бұрын
I said he teaches 7 year olds. So he probably does have a little class that he teaches
@Just.Kidding
@Just.Kidding Жыл бұрын
He's almost certainly an instructor.
@fahimshahriar2441
@fahimshahriar2441 Жыл бұрын
​@@bubbasgod9336who is he?
@Zer0TheProdigy
@Zer0TheProdigy 3 жыл бұрын
*Dry fires bow* "Why do I hear boss music" I thought he was really upset the way he snatched the bow back but his "It's fine" after fixing it cut the tension. What a patient beast
@KurNorock
@KurNorock 3 жыл бұрын
His own fault. The first thing you tell somebody who isn't an archer is to not dry fire a bow. If he didn't tell them, and then remind them often, then it's his fault.
@GrassSaint33
@GrassSaint33 3 жыл бұрын
@@KurNorock The comments make it sound like every one in modern day should know this already. its kinda ridiculous.
@bignumbers
@bignumbers 2 жыл бұрын
There's no fire involved in using a bow. You fire a gun. You _loose_ an arrow.
@naylisyazwina6836
@naylisyazwina6836 Жыл бұрын
@@GrassSaint33 I also think he purposely gave them the cheapest bow on that table or at least it looked like it. Imagine dry firing the other bows or like the old warbow ones
@jordannewsom4578
@jordannewsom4578 Жыл бұрын
@@bignumbers Correct, the act of shooting an arrow is technically called *loosing* but you DO *dry fire* a bow when you release the string from partial or full draw without an arrow knocked on the string Mr Technical Terms only or I’m commenting on it lol..
@j4ff4c3ks1
@j4ff4c3ks1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure anyone who knows bows here felt physical pain when Brian dry-fired it, but i feel inserting the lesson in such a comedic fashion is part of what makes these videos so good and memorable, instead of a passing mention of "don't dry fire bows"
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@HeartlessKnave
@HeartlessKnave 2 жыл бұрын
I felt no physical or emotional pain. I have shit bows that occasionally dry fire and also smack things/people with, and give no fucks. As they are cheap, old, free, or garbage in some way. Training gear is always made for damage from practice, learning, new people, and mistakes. If you're handing a beginner stuff that you don't want damaged then that is your mistake. It should also be called dry loosing because dry firing with firearms is something you want people to do to increase their firearms handling skills.
@XxXfreakyslayerXxX
@XxXfreakyslayerXxX Жыл бұрын
@@HeartlessKnavei feel you but “dry loosing” just sounds stupid, rather say dry firing lol
@Val.Kyrie.
@Val.Kyrie. Жыл бұрын
​@@HeartlessKnaveeveryone says dry fire
@steadynumber1
@steadynumber1 11 ай бұрын
Doubtless that's why he was given the plastic training bow.
@jog2243
@jog2243 Жыл бұрын
While this is a mini masterclass in horse archery, this is also a masterclass in teaching. He lets them ask questions about stuff they’re interested in then I answers perfectly, allows the students to make mistakes without being harsh, and adds knowledge as they learn the techniques.
@margaretwordnerd5210
@margaretwordnerd5210 2 ай бұрын
And called them hunny bunny. Came for the archery, love the whimsical presentation.
@Petyoo12
@Petyoo12 4 жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian, and a medieval re-enactor, I find this video pretty good. But, there is a thing i would like to talk about. The myth that they've put the meat under their saddles is true, but they did not eat it afterwards. They've only put it there so that the saddle doesn't do any harm to the horses back. Because yep, on a long ride, which they usually did, the saddle itself can deal some damage on the horses back.
@vasheldiablo507
@vasheldiablo507 Жыл бұрын
Makes sense, extra padding.
@spookymv
@spookymv 8 ай бұрын
as a turk I have to say that the information you have given is completely wrong. because we still do it. and it is very tasty. it is called pastırma (pressing) . Turks ( and of course their immediate neighbors, the Mongols ) had two sources of food during their long horse journeys. one was the "pastirma" on the horse's back and the second was the blood drawn from the horse's neck with a reed. The latter was practiced only by the horsemen who were the messengers of news. because they had no chance to stop, to take a break. but pastırma is still probably the most delicious fermented meat invention of the Turks. I should remind you that it is a much older tradition than when Hungarians were considered "Hun Turks". keyword: bastuma, pastırma, kastamonu pastırması
@martinoberngruber1893
@martinoberngruber1893 7 ай бұрын
I can't imagine that they threw food away. Especially at wartime.
@NewAgeBarbarian
@NewAgeBarbarian 4 күн бұрын
​@@spookymvMmmm fermented milk and yogurt too 😋
@christopherpurches2774
@christopherpurches2774 5 жыл бұрын
1.5 years later, and I figured I should drop a line about this topic: Reason for single-material self-bows, especially the longbow, to have remained in use throughout history, even after exposure to the composite bow, is rather simple. It is easier to construct, easier to maintain, and does not rapidly degrade in humid climates.
@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523
@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523 3 жыл бұрын
they figured that out 600 bc. i figure we didnt your opinion.
@christopherpurches2774
@christopherpurches2774 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523 correct, regarding the first sentence. I have no idea what the second sentence is supposed to mean. Could you rephrase?
@maxwhitworth9178
@maxwhitworth9178 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523 Hey, what the hell?
@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523
@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxwhitworth9178 ... what is your question?
@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523
@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherpurches2774 stop restating the obvious... why havent they did a vid on utube "lars anderson he figured out our lost tribal art of speed bowing... as in accurately shooting 3 arrows in 1.3 seconds... semi auto speed bowing...
@mountainman208
@mountainman208 Жыл бұрын
I laughed at the dry-firing moment. When he released, I just cringed. Laughed at how immediately both the video and the instructor addressed it. Great video. Thank you!
@kaantaskin4201
@kaantaskin4201 11 ай бұрын
As a Turkish person this video made me both happy and sad. I’m happy because lots of people learned the basic info about the Turkish archery. However, what we know is just the top of the iceberg, after hundreds of years later, we lost the art of archery and important information about it.
@timexyemerald6290
@timexyemerald6290 5 ай бұрын
Same think happened to almost all country that had nomadic past. For example. Due to soviet and Manchu rule. Mongolia lost almost all of their temples and and palaces cause they where afraid that those monument etc would make them want to rebel. All the the ancient text have been burned and lost. While population got forced into Buddhism and not have kids and in other world was a attempted to wipe out everyone of em. At some point there where less than million people left 😅.
@melaniegreen5823
@melaniegreen5823 6 жыл бұрын
I died a little inside when he dry-fired that bow.
@unlink1649
@unlink1649 5 жыл бұрын
I know right. Why would he do that
@pewpewdie960
@pewpewdie960 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Inglese it fucks up the bow since theres nothing for the spring to push so the spring just wobbles around and gets fucked up this is just my theory, i've never used an actual bow myself
@ryans3194
@ryans3194 4 жыл бұрын
MDMA in my fanta it is extremely dangerous look it up people have gotten hurt by dry firing bows especially with compound bows what happens is the string slips off the cam and worst case scenario hits the shooter in the face severely injuring them
@GregoryKun
@GregoryKun 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Inglese The bow gives the power to the arrow, without an arrow the power goes back into the bow through the string. It can destroy the bow.
@maxmuller8633
@maxmuller8633 4 жыл бұрын
@@GregoryKun Archers in the medieval time were made up most by peasants, imagine getting hurt like that and having to let it bleed. Poor lads
@larrytrahan
@larrytrahan 6 жыл бұрын
I physically cringed as an archer when Brian dry fired the bow....
@gustavusadolphus9473
@gustavusadolphus9473 6 жыл бұрын
James Trahan same here
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 6 жыл бұрын
James Trahan no need to be an archer for that. I shot three times in my life (not three arrows but three times a few days) and that was enough to make me squeal at dryfiring.
@Dee_Just_Dee
@Dee_Just_Dee 6 жыл бұрын
IKR? "Hey, let's go hit the bar!" #*physically unplugs PC*#
@Artrysa
@Artrysa 6 жыл бұрын
I feel you man.
@711jastin
@711jastin 6 жыл бұрын
any archer would
@guy_named_steven9912
@guy_named_steven9912 3 жыл бұрын
2:13 the real reason why mostly European countries used longbows was because of the climate, composite bows where made for dry areas like the steps. The composite bow would easily break in wet areas like India this was also a component in the failure of Gengis khans invasion of India.
@erozionzeall6371
@erozionzeall6371 Жыл бұрын
He never tried to invade India
@stsk1061
@stsk1061 Жыл бұрын
Turks also used composite bows.
@ahmetturkmen0011
@ahmetturkmen0011 9 ай бұрын
1. The Turks and Tatars knew that keeping a bow in a dry area for two days would allow the glue to strengthen again. 2. Hungarian tribes (Magyars) pillaged Europe during the 11th century and had no issue with it. 3. The Ottomans, Mongols, Tatars, Magyars, Kumans, Kipchaks, Avars, Bulgars and Pechenegs all successfully invaded Europe with the bow and arrow, and built empires there. 4. Genghis Khan didn't invade India. He died in 1280. His sons invaded India, and they sure did conquer it. They are called the Mughals. 5. Other steppe people did invade India using the recurve composite bow and arrow. They are called: the Ghorids, Tughluq, Delhi Sultanate, Ghaznavids, Babur, Mughals, Khilji dynasty and the Shahi dynasties. Turkic people ruled India for more than a thousand years. And I'm not mentioning the White Hunks (Ak Hun) or Xionites or Alchon Huns.
@SantaBunny
@SantaBunny 6 жыл бұрын
This guy is so cool! I want to see more from him!!!
@joeysung311
@joeysung311 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see that fermented mare's milk episode
@TheStrangerous
@TheStrangerous 6 жыл бұрын
We’ve got another ep coming!
@DavidLopez-pc7yg
@DavidLopez-pc7yg 6 жыл бұрын
The guy in the hat sounds like Kermit.
@AlfaRevoluzione
@AlfaRevoluzione 6 жыл бұрын
i wanna be that kool doh
@PeaceAura
@PeaceAura 6 жыл бұрын
This guy is a real men !
@AliAsghar-zh8fr
@AliAsghar-zh8fr 5 жыл бұрын
for a moment I thought he's gonna rip that dude's head off when he dry fired the bow
@Dreamscythe1
@Dreamscythe1 5 жыл бұрын
id of freaked out if he dry fired any of my bows
@assaultspoon4925
@assaultspoon4925 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god he didnt touch the hornbow.
@theshuman100
@theshuman100 5 жыл бұрын
not many people get to say I pissed of a hun and live
@researchtech4881
@researchtech4881 5 жыл бұрын
@@theshuman100 pissed of a hun?
@theshuman100
@theshuman100 5 жыл бұрын
@@researchtech4881 yea like pissing about huns ya know
@-----Alcatraz------
@-----Alcatraz------ 4 жыл бұрын
10:37 "I pissed off a Hun" What the romans said when they saw Attila.
@toocharged
@toocharged 4 жыл бұрын
He has mostly European ancestry the huns were pure mongolic ages ago modern day Hungarians hardly have any type of mongol in them all the Mongols are in left Mongolia and Northern South asia Central Asia or
@hghgasdas6566
@hghgasdas6566 4 жыл бұрын
There were no Romans left when they invaded Romans would have cleansed the Huns in 10 years
@batuhanuyar3471
@batuhanuyar3471 4 жыл бұрын
Ahahhahaha
@brk932
@brk932 4 жыл бұрын
@@hghgasdas6566 You are kidding. The Romans were scared shitless. Attila was pillaging city after city but they still payed tribute, a cartload of gold items. He was smart enough not to attack heavily fortified settlements, such as Rome, that could be easily defended. if it wasn't for the coalition with the Germanic tribes, Rome would have fallen sooner. The Roman empire was heavily mismanaged for decades, even before Attila.
@yusufyahya5472
@yusufyahya5472 3 жыл бұрын
@@toocharged huns are not pure mongol... they are mixed with turkic and mongol...pls respect to the history, do not give wrong information...
@bcn1gh7h4wk
@bcn1gh7h4wk 6 жыл бұрын
Thumb Ring. Archers +18% shooting speed, 100% accuracy. Parthian Tactics. Archers +1/+2 armor, +2/+4 attack against Pikemen. Age of Empires all the way baby.
@sulviar3011
@sulviar3011 5 жыл бұрын
Age of Empires 2 is the best
@ZeroNitroMan
@ZeroNitroMan 5 жыл бұрын
Hah, literally what I thought during the whole video.
@DrecxDG
@DrecxDG 5 жыл бұрын
those mangudai are OP
@OneTrueVikingbard
@OneTrueVikingbard 5 жыл бұрын
Rogan?
@ZeroNitroMan
@ZeroNitroMan 5 жыл бұрын
All hail, the king of the losers!
@amstrad00
@amstrad00 6 жыл бұрын
I was just waiting for a dry fire to occur. You didn't disappoint.
@Linck192
@Linck192 6 жыл бұрын
me too
@knut7362
@knut7362 3 жыл бұрын
how would they know
@OutnBacker
@OutnBacker Жыл бұрын
"Everything seemed so elegant, until we got to this..." Probably the most relevant statement of the whole video from these two. Nevertheless, high marks for content.
@nightmeds3339
@nightmeds3339 3 жыл бұрын
this video actually pushed me to start archery. now I have four-five bows both recurve and compound and have been practicing for more than a year by now
@duongtieuta223
@duongtieuta223 3 жыл бұрын
This video makes me started archery back then. 3 years later I'm drawing and shooting 110lbs bows on foot. Just started to get on the horses now. Thank you guys for the video!
@--Grimm
@--Grimm Жыл бұрын
I know it's been a year but I'm curious on where you are now lol
@greasepipe9999
@greasepipe9999 5 жыл бұрын
This says something else now
@shockwave6213
@shockwave6213 5 жыл бұрын
The Yumi is much like Imperial Japan. Flaunting its ass off. LOL
@AymenDZA
@AymenDZA 5 жыл бұрын
Missed an opportunity to say "Hold my sake"
@Chintok11
@Chintok11 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad Japanese weren't in Mongolian's reach. If they did you wouldn't be saying this kind of bull shit.
@richardpalmer8478
@richardpalmer8478 5 жыл бұрын
@@Chintok11, the Mongols tried to invade Japan twice. Failed on both occasions.
@itjustforfun6687
@itjustforfun6687 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardpalmer8478 To be fair the Mongols got screwed by weather moreso than the Japanese, but it would have been interesting seeing what Ghengis would do closer to Kyoto.
@ROBIEM97
@ROBIEM97 6 жыл бұрын
My god he seems like such a chill guy, one of the nicest people to explain something on modern rogue in a while!
@arctrog
@arctrog 5 жыл бұрын
Hun: Size doesn't matter baby Rogue: Been saying that for years! r/suicidebywords
@shotya9403
@shotya9403 5 жыл бұрын
The things is calling an hun a mongolian is like calling canadians american
@arctrog
@arctrog 5 жыл бұрын
@@shotya9403 first of all, he said he was the hun. Secondly he isnt technically either because both empires ended hundreds of years ago.
@arctrog
@arctrog 5 жыл бұрын
@@shotya9403 firstly 1:27 he is referred to as "The Hun" so thats why I called him that, secondly he is neither a Mongol nor a Hun because the empires ended many hundred years ago.
@slayer-of-swadia
@slayer-of-swadia 5 жыл бұрын
@@arctrog aand the both empires came from same continent
@drakesomerset129
@drakesomerset129 5 жыл бұрын
shotya Canadians are American...
@MattJPert
@MattJPert 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm a traditional recurve archer and I've always wondered about other styles of archery. Thank you guys so much! Congrats on the expansion. Keep going!
@miman-ck9jv
@miman-ck9jv 6 жыл бұрын
The first thing you tell someone when they don’t know anything about bows is to never dry fire a bow. First thing.
@sissypoettler5945
@sissypoettler5945 3 жыл бұрын
Dry fire a bow? You probably need to explain that before giving a bow to a newbee!
@benji280792
@benji280792 Жыл бұрын
​@@sissypoettler5945 dry fire is the term, but the first thing you do when you put a bow into someone's hands is "never shoot without an arrow, it will blow it and hurt you" while putting an arrow on the bow.
@jamesp5644
@jamesp5644 6 жыл бұрын
I like how the guy is totally fine with messing around a joking about arrow types and stuff. He's seems really cool.
@MrPancake777
@MrPancake777 6 жыл бұрын
Provocateur the romans did that, the Romans do that, the Aztec did that, the Greeks did that, the British do that. So what’s your point?
@victortodorov2218
@victortodorov2218 4 жыл бұрын
Bulgaria is from the nomadic family and I am so happy that finaly there is a bulgarian bow in a video for the horse/born bow! Good job!
@ldarda6
@ldarda6 3 жыл бұрын
would a slavic Bulgarian identifies themselfs as from the steppes?
@victortodorov2218
@victortodorov2218 3 жыл бұрын
@@ldarda6 , der Name "Bulgarien" stammt aus der Sprache der Protobulgaren. 681 wird ein neues Staat an der Donau gegründet. Die Bevölkerung da bestand fast nur aus Slawen, die Protobulgaren waren cirka 10.000, aber sie regierten das Staat. Nach 200 Jahren wird das Land christlich, d.h. es gibt eine einzige Religion für allen. Dann verlieren die Protobulgaren ihre Identität, nur der Name bleibt bis heute.
@ldarda6
@ldarda6 3 жыл бұрын
@@victortodorov2218 yeah excatly that's why I asked. Thanks for the reply.
@zoranpavlovic9540
@zoranpavlovic9540 3 жыл бұрын
@@ldarda6 Bulgarian state and people got their name after nomads who established state back in late 7th century having power over vast majority of Traco-Slavic population not only on territory of present day Bulgaria, only nomad elite had power in First Empire. Very rich history. Even under Byzantine rule there was composite bow production but surely during 13th and specially 14th even 15th century (during Ottomans). Bulgarian late medieval rulers as every Balkan rulers used oriental mercenary horseback archers however composite bow was present on foot (up to coastal Croatia bigger quantity of lighter tanged arrowheads than socketed ones talks in favour if composite bows). We have only glimpse insight of medieval culture in Balkans due to turbulent centuries. I am not talking that Ottomans ruined everything but Balkan was huge battlefield with devastating consequences in 15th century and during great wars specially, Hungarian-Turkish wars, Austro-Turkish wars, Wien war etc.
@sadmageboi472
@sadmageboi472 6 жыл бұрын
i knew bryan would dry fire, as soon as he pulled the string back i could sense it
@illogicalbear6200
@illogicalbear6200 6 жыл бұрын
I saw it coming, and it caused me pain. I must admit, I squealed like a stuck pig and dropped my phone.
@romasromas73
@romasromas73 6 жыл бұрын
jozsua mcdonald I have no experience with bows. I would have dry fired aswell. Why is itna bad thing?
@joshclingermayer6091
@joshclingermayer6091 6 жыл бұрын
Im not an expert by any means. But, when you shoot an arrow, all the energy is transferred to the arrow itself, when there is no arrow all that force is put into the bow itself, possibly damaging it. (im sure there is a better explanation but thats as much as i know)
@justingibbons9437
@justingibbons9437 6 жыл бұрын
you pretty much got it, also heavier bows obviously hold more tension and when dry-fired the bow string (even seen in this video) will often come loose or detach completely, and when you have a hard string whipping back at you with up to 100lbs of force (mainly in reference to traditional wooden bows), its a scar and a lost eye waiting to happen. I've read of instances where bow limbs actually snap, causing irrepairable damage to the bow and increasing bodily risk.
@1512125
@1512125 6 жыл бұрын
Luckily it was just a fibreglass bow, someone might have died if it was a hornbow
@AppleBear033
@AppleBear033 6 жыл бұрын
Love the enthusiasm towards the history shown here - very infectious!
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad it's filled with inaccuracies and missinformation.
@ianmilne6214
@ianmilne6214 4 жыл бұрын
To say that the bows were made and used in their respective countries due to tradition is not historically true. The European longbow was made from wood to survive the cooler damp conditions of the general climate of countries such as England. The Mongol or Turkish style bows were made from glued sinew and horn which survived well in the dryer conditions of those countries. They could not survive the moisture of the more northern countries (they literally fell apart) and likewise the wooden longbows dried out and soon broke in the hotter drier countries such as Turkey. I am sure that available materials also had a lot to do with it and a longbow could be made in a couple of days, whereas the Turkish style bows took months to make due to the glued lamination process. Everything I have said here is mentioned in books on the subject. Also the record for distance with a normally strung bow is held by an an English war bow: and is 412 metres.
@ibrahimb6791
@ibrahimb6791 10 ай бұрын
no way! historical turkish bows had a range of more than 900 meters.. source: dosyalar.nevsehir.edu.tr/33d4d0ae002fd6d0a9b38a6901c6fb3c/ottoman-bows.pdf
@rollercoastersrule
@rollercoastersrule 6 жыл бұрын
So this is were FPS Russia has been hiding. He grew a sick beard and took up archery.
@shadowdeslaar
@shadowdeslaar 5 жыл бұрын
Ted Myers damn Did anything happen to fps
@seraphofhatred2512
@seraphofhatred2512 5 жыл бұрын
@Ted Myers That is false information. Well yeah his gun guy got killed, and yes his channel is inactive. The reason why he doesn't make gun videos anymore is because he got felony charges for marijuana possession so his guns got taken away and he can't legally obtain new ones because of that.
@michaellawless3538
@michaellawless3538 5 жыл бұрын
Right? That's a pretty fake sounding accent
@RaeSyngKane
@RaeSyngKane 6 жыл бұрын
Okay hold on dude, the english longbow and a mongol recurve bow have a LOT more differences than just tradition. An english Longbow is a simple bow, it is constructed from a single piece of wood and gets its strength from the long draw. It has almost the same draw length as the arrows shot from the mongol bow. It was designed for mass volley fire from foot and to be easily produced. It fired large arrows and could contend with heavily mounted cavalry by killing the horse, piercing the armor, or simply landing in weak portions of the armor connections. The mongol recurve bow is a composite bow. It was made from many different materials by people who had to be experts in the craft. It was not easily replaceable and could not be mass produced. It's superior construction was it's benefit and downfall, higher performance at the expense of decreased production. It was also more fragile than the longbow, weather conditions can cause damage to a composite bow that would not affect a longbow. The recurve gave it a shorter draw length and it fired a much lighter, shorter arrow, both advantages for horseback archery. It was designed for accurate and aimed fire from horseback with skilled shooters. It was intended for the armor of the 400's not the medieval period armor. The Mongols overcame many of the issues by having a culture built around the bow, every man had one and gave extreme care to its maintenance, when they conscripted an "army" all of their tribesman already had all the tools they needed and the experience to use them. The conscript armies of other nations would've destroyed their bows within a month. Longbows were sturdy, durable, and crude, they could handle most abuse and when they couldn't they could be easily replaced. Medieval accounts even describe the knots from tree being left on some of the longbows being rushed into service. The reason we think of longbows and see longbows is due to several reasons. You can certainly consider tradition to be one, but longbows, or more accurately their users, also had much more of an impact in the long run. The huns may have had more "territory" than the Romans but they held it for the life of one man. The longbow continued its domination of ranged combat in the European theater all the way into the gunpowder age. Outside of a historical context, the tale of Robin Hood popularized longbows and with plenty of customers clamoring for easily made longbows the producers were only too happy to oblige. Even without Robin Hood, simple bows make more sense to give to someone who wants to have a taste of archery without letting it consume their life. Furthermore, with the advent of modern compound bows and modern/less than modern crossbows, many of the performance advantages of a mongol bow can be surpassed. Mongol bows still remain a pricey, skilled craftsmanship item and are kept from the limelight more due to their nature than due to some sort of cultural bias.
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I absolutely love that we have a channel where reasoned, educated historical debates break out.
@StringsOfTheHarp
@StringsOfTheHarp 6 жыл бұрын
That wasn't even a debate; that was a good bunch of useful info to people who are interested in all these different topics. So thanks for the info, and Modern Rogue, don't stop these sorts of interesting videos.
@RaeSyngKane
@RaeSyngKane 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Modern Rogue, too often people get too tied up into their personal attachment to these weapons to realize that oftentimes the weapons are geared specifically to the nation using them. They may not be the absolute best performance wise but they may be the best suited to how that nation operated at that time. Panthers worked fine for the Germans but for the US the panthers need for maintenance would've crippled our supply line. Jazmine, I think he was just talking about how I was making a counter argument to the guy in the vid. Got to agree with you though, since the other guy can't respond it's not going to be much of a debate. :) Happy that you liked the info and thanks for the nice comment!
@_Wiseguy7
@_Wiseguy7 6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of longbows, there is a story of a British officer who fought with a longbow and a Scottish broadsword during WWII. Also the only British soldier known to have felled an enemy with a longbow in the war. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill
@Alexquints
@Alexquints 6 жыл бұрын
RaeSyngKane I have both and the recurve is better for power but the longbow is far easier to use so for a novice I'd recommend a longbow
@mishka3284
@mishka3284 3 жыл бұрын
I love how they say “Mongolian” but they don’t even have a Mongolian bow
@kermitthefrog5926
@kermitthefrog5926 3 жыл бұрын
Is it even made horn? Probly a "replica" made of plastic.
@gabenewell4400
@gabenewell4400 3 жыл бұрын
@@kermitthefrog5926 probably some kind of solid fiberglass limb bow or modern laminate material (fibreglass, wood and carbon fibre) natural, traditional horn sinew bows are about 40x as expensive as bows with solid fibreglass limbs, require more maintenance and can delaminate in extreme conditions, which reduces effective poundage and in extreme cases, can lead to the bow breaking and exploding in your face but the natural horn sinew bows are more efficient, so theres that,
@seanreynolds7369
@seanreynolds7369 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabenewell4400 Oh god, proper traditional bows do not come cheap. -source, me, who recently bought one
@Direwoof
@Direwoof 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanreynolds7369 Ye I want a japanese yumi bow and their like 600 ducks -.-
@queti486
@queti486 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason you know this is because he mentioned it's not Mongolian is because he mentioned it, until about the 14th century both used virtually identical variations of the same bow type.
@toxicbuffalo2269
@toxicbuffalo2269 6 жыл бұрын
Let me just say I've been a big fan of your works for a long time, before the Modern Rogue even started. I loved hacking the system, and I'm a long time fan of Scam School, and it was even awesome seeing you in Penn and Teller's show Fool Us. I'm so proud of how far you guys have come, and all these cool things you guys have shown everybody, and I just want to say thanks for entertaining us for so long, and keeping us entertained in the future!
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so, so much, man. It really feels like we're on to something with TMR, and I can't wait to watch it grow. Help us spread the word?
@toxicbuffalo2269
@toxicbuffalo2269 6 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see where the Modern Rogue goes next! I'd love to see this grow so much more. (Actually, just the other day a friend of mine tried to trick me with something from Scam School, but your wise teachings let me outsmart him, hahaha!) I'll definitely be sure to spread the word to my friends. I don't know how they survive without this great stuff!
@brandonwood9923
@brandonwood9923 6 жыл бұрын
This guys accent turns on and off
@sean7625
@sean7625 5 жыл бұрын
Thats what happens when you are an immigrant from another country like when brits live in America or Americans live in the uk it comes on and off depends how long you lived there
@Evan-hq5dt
@Evan-hq5dt 5 жыл бұрын
Because he's FPS Russia.
@camnationm8
@camnationm8 5 жыл бұрын
Sean 762 it’s what happens when your trying to do an accent your can’t do well for over 3 hours of filming haha, he’s American
@esnebta
@esnebta 5 жыл бұрын
@@Evan-hq5dt ha! That was my first thought!
@abhilashdas2460
@abhilashdas2460 5 жыл бұрын
@@esnebta no
@Veckoza
@Veckoza Жыл бұрын
As someone who loves Knight culture, I love learning about the other medieval cultures too! I love the love they have for the history of it all, like knowing about Khatra, or dressing for the part like I do. The sheer patience and will it takes to learn an ancient combat technique like firing an arrow when the modern firearm is a much more viable tool for self-defense... it's the shared love of the art and the history that keeps the practices alive to this day. 🥰🥰
@skuzzyj
@skuzzyj 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I was going to try and make an _FPS Prussia_ joke but realized my geography would be stretching it too far...
@midia677
@midia677 6 жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe this is FPS Russia after his channel went dark, he's grown a beard and reverted to the ancient art of archery instead of guns.
@skuzzyj
@skuzzyj 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Griffin You do realize that I posted _"Prussia"_ which was the historical name of Germany and not in any significant way associated with anything resembling modern day Russia until the USSR absorbed a very small section a few decades prior to the entire state of Prussia being officially dissolved after WWII*; that section being a chunk of Poland, a snip of Lithuania, and what is now known as Kaliningrad Oblast which is seemingly still being held by RU because it's a good non-frozen trade port more than anything else. That's a long answer for what essentially amounts to "is joke." *the "official" dissolution of Prussia was more or less a formality since the German Revolution had pretty well taken care of it several years prior but, you could say, the paperwork never really got done
@SteveIsHavingMC
@SteveIsHavingMC 6 жыл бұрын
FPS Grassia? Because steppes have grass?
@Ononorium
@Ononorium 6 жыл бұрын
Mongolians are an entirely different race from white Russians Geography means nothing, a white Caucasian Berber dressing up as a black sub-Saharan Zulu would be equally ridiculous even both are "African"
@NotACutie
@NotACutie 5 жыл бұрын
FPS Scythia?
@itsmerog1
@itsmerog1 6 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see the whistling arrow
@northwestobs2577
@northwestobs2577 6 жыл бұрын
Roger Paul me too
@TheStrangerous
@TheStrangerous 6 жыл бұрын
Watch til the *very* end.
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnebhp5-r6qkaMU
@romans6405
@romans6405 6 жыл бұрын
The Modern Rogue Aw man, you beat me to it
@ebuuuu2833
@ebuuuu2833 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2fLi4dojb9sZ5I Test it with a few peoples
@ashina2146
@ashina2146 5 жыл бұрын
The Mongols Conquered the World with Bows, Arrows, and Horse. Every Mongols who Fight with Lance, Sabre, and Horse: "....bruh" The Chinese who build them siege weapons: "...哥"
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I cringed when that dude said they only used mounted archers.
@levihorvath1977
@levihorvath1977 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't. Just raided and then they were destroyed.
@Lipton3373
@Lipton3373 4 жыл бұрын
@@levihorvath1977 Lmao they conquered almost everything infront of them, changed it forever, ruled for hundreds of years, and then slowly faded away.
@levihorvath1977
@levihorvath1977 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lipton3373 Learn the history man. If you search carefully you will find the truth :D
@Lipton3373
@Lipton3373 4 жыл бұрын
Levi Horváth you’re an actual fucking idiot
@Volvith
@Volvith 5 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how they got around the archers' paradox back in the day. These days, you can construct arrows fairly precisely to bend around it, but if you're one of the largest armies in the world, and you have tens if not hundreds of thousands of horseback bowmen firing arrows, you can't really be all that picky on what quality arrow you shoot. Twisting the bow out of the way... Who'd have thought, learning something new every day! :D
@nymalous3428
@nymalous3428 6 жыл бұрын
This was the best explanation/rationale for drawing on the right-hand side of the bow (if the bow is in your left hand, that is) that I have heard. Anyone who has advocated it in the past has always said that the reason was because it was faster and just better somehow. I like this video because the Hun gave actual reasons for his methods, reasons that made sense. I will still draw on the left-hand side of the bow but I will also not be riding a horse.
@benjaminmyers4117
@benjaminmyers4117 Жыл бұрын
Woman in the beginning was insane. Shooting a bow with that accuracy while riding a horse is wild
@cracklingvoice
@cracklingvoice Жыл бұрын
She's clearly spent a lot of time practicing the art. The behind-the-back shot was wild.
@benjaminmyers4117
@benjaminmyers4117 Жыл бұрын
@@cracklingvoice yeah absolutely. Riding a horse like that is already hard enough, but shooting a bow at the same time is next level
@dabe8478
@dabe8478 Жыл бұрын
You actually never saw the shot all the way from bow to target in same "clip" though. Not saying it didn't happen, just saying that the video doesn't show it.
@benjaminmyers4117
@benjaminmyers4117 Жыл бұрын
@@dabe8478 that would be a silly edit
@dabe8478
@dabe8478 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmyers4117 I don't get your reply. Maybe I'm slow... (it has happened before :) )
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 6 жыл бұрын
Longbow is capable of a longer power-stroke, and smoother more consistent acceleration vector. It also takes less skill to make, and is easier to string, and un-string than a shorter bow of comparable weight. Longbow is neither superior, or inferior from a military standpoint. It's just different. FYI: I'm a Mongol bow fanboi, and even I know this.
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. How they were to be employed and the society that would employ them all shape the weapon.
@georgiyyamov5827
@georgiyyamov5827 6 жыл бұрын
You still can't longbow on horseback, so..
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 6 жыл бұрын
@Georgiy Yamov That's fairly similar to saying "You can't snipe with a sword". Different tool for different situations.
@cool06alt
@cool06alt 6 жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter, once you hit full draw composite bow gonna be as powerful if not slightly better than longbow. Composite bow also have better efficiency than longbow or other thick selfbow so even if you shoot heavy arrow it gonna be as good as longbow (although the for the best performance light arrow take the cake)
@cool06alt
@cool06alt 6 жыл бұрын
You can use longbow on horseback...but dont expect you could draw and shoot easily as shorter composite bow. Actually here's what i think, composite bow actually have both longbow and short bow design for each culture. Manchu bow and mongol bow for example could be considered longbow compared to common design for composite bow. But with composite material you dont need to oversize the limb to make a longbow style bow, just use longer ear and more curved grip.
@colliningraham8838
@colliningraham8838 6 жыл бұрын
Ok I know someone else probably already said this but here it goes. There are some advantages to the longbow. 1. It is one piece of solid wood and doesn't require glue or any other parts. It is extremely durable in all weather condition unlike the composite bow that is made from different parts. It's like the ak of the bow world. It's also alot cheaper to produce and if the mongols had yew wood thats what they would have used for there composite bows. The yew wood has 2 different types of wood in it that makes it good for bow making. The outside wood is good at being pulled and the inside part is good at being compressed.
@balazsjakabffy2556
@balazsjakabffy2556 Жыл бұрын
Taxus cuspidata is present in large portions of Asia, the mongols could have seen it potentially. Don't know if it works for bows as well as Taxus baccata
@MarkyMark2177
@MarkyMark2177 4 жыл бұрын
“If I can teach 17 year olds, I can teach you guys”. Lol that was a zinger
@dasmaverick1063
@dasmaverick1063 4 жыл бұрын
7 year olds...
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 3 жыл бұрын
They taught archery at 7th grade camp to children less than 17 years old.
@ogioblue
@ogioblue 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly think he is my favorite guest host. Bring him back everytime in the same outfit. You'll be talking about the deep web or hacking again and he'll just say he has an arrow for that.
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha--- that'd be great!
@akhasshativeritsol1950
@akhasshativeritsol1950 6 жыл бұрын
It could be the arrow hawkeye shoots into the helicarrier computer in Avengers to disable the engines
@smellypatel5272
@smellypatel5272 2 жыл бұрын
@@akhasshativeritsol1950 there's the genZ kid who makes everything about marvel smh
@akhasshativeritsol1950
@akhasshativeritsol1950 2 жыл бұрын
@@smellypatel5272 If by "genZ" you mean "millennial" and by "marvel" you mean "pop culture in general," and by "everything" you mean "things with a direct similarity," then yup, you're exactly right! And if by "smh" you mean, "So Much Honor to you, you brave internet warrior," then I say no need to thank me, all in a day's work :)
@smellypatel5272
@smellypatel5272 2 жыл бұрын
@@akhasshativeritsol1950 ok zoomer
@popotan000
@popotan000 6 жыл бұрын
omg my heart dropped when he dry fired that gorgeous and EXPENSIVE bow
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
I am a bad person.
@MrFirstcause
@MrFirstcause 4 жыл бұрын
Expensive? I've never even seen where you can buy one, only make them... But, even the materials are expensive if you don't hunt. Trying to buy enough sinew and the right horn anywhere is $$$...
@Gergination
@Gergination 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 99% certain that's a Genghis Khan from Alibow (I have one myself). Great bow for the price but they're only $100.
@faizalnizar8261
@faizalnizar8261 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gergination No its even cheaper its an alibow fiberglass turkish... No one would give an expensive bow to a beginner when incidents such as dry firing and limb twisting is very prone
@fsusarge
@fsusarge 4 жыл бұрын
This REALLY hammers home the legendary Marshall Wyatt Earp's "Fast is fine, but accurate is final" maxim.
@ryanbeauregard3239
@ryanbeauregard3239 6 жыл бұрын
The channel Smarter everyday did a couple episodes on the archers paradox. Check it out. And as soon as Brian picked up the bow I knew he was going to dry fire it.
@BrandtHughes
@BrandtHughes 6 жыл бұрын
That's actually a really great point. I'm a big fan of SmarterEveryDay but totally forgot he did some archery videos a while back, added a card and link in the description!
@ryanbeauregard3239
@ryanbeauregard3239 6 жыл бұрын
Me to. He is very informative
@cryingisthenosebleedoftheh790
@cryingisthenosebleedoftheh790 6 жыл бұрын
i knew he was gong to dry fire the bow for the start and started cringing as soon as he started drawing the bow.
@mynameismin3
@mynameismin3 3 жыл бұрын
There are multiple reasons why one would choose the long bow over a composite bow, as both have their advantages and disadvantages, and neither is "better" than the other. Perhaps each might be more suitable in certain situations, but both did their jobs as the needed and both proved to be very effective. The English could have used composite bows if they wanted to, they had the know how, as did pretty much every culture across Eurasia, the technology spanned across the entire continent, for well over a thousand years. But they do have their problems, one of which is de-lamination in wet or humid conditions, which would most certainly have been an issue for the English. Another is time they take to produce compared with the long bow (not taking into account the time it takes to season bow staves). A long bow can be tillered in hours, while a composite bow can take months for the glue to try. Basically the point is that the long bow, composite bow, Japanese yumi, they all did the jobs they were meant to do, and were effective at doing it, or else they wouldn't have been used for such long times. None are better than the other. It's childish to pretend otherwise.
@gustavogoesgomes1863
@gustavogoesgomes1863 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! The composite, recurve horse bow performs objectively better than the traditional long bows, but it is a LOT harder to make and isn't suitable to every climate. The ease to produce longbows made it far superior as a weapon in it's right context.
@gushlergushler
@gushlergushler 3 жыл бұрын
Additionally there was also generally speaking a difference in the way war was lead aswell as having different types of armor. Each weapon was made for its respective battlefield and performed well or it would not have been used... or something more effective at killing was devised, i.e. guns.
@marcofearg9956
@marcofearg9956 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@imugi-16
@imugi-16 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree. They have their pros and cons. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't longbows also shoot heavier arrows due to the size of the bow, and therefore had better armor piercing potential?
@gushlergushler
@gushlergushler 3 жыл бұрын
@@imugi-16 That is not generalizable. I cannot say for all types of bows but I know the bows of the qing dynasty in china used bows with extremely high gpp due to the construction of the bow. Reconstructions of these Manchu bows generally use upwards of 12 gpp going up to 16gpp in high cases. They also were quite long, up to a meter in length was appearantly not a rarity. If you are interested you can go look at the information on manchuarchery.org .
@KeeganSablan
@KeeganSablan 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else remember the Mythbusters episode where the Build Team did this as an experiment? See if horseback archers (or in their case, jeep riding archers) had more force when shooting their arrows than they did from a standing position. That's why I love this show. It's like 1 part Mythbusters, 1 part Scam School, and 1 part watching Brian injure his hand every few episodes.
@joeysung311
@joeysung311 6 жыл бұрын
did they?
@davidszabo9159
@davidszabo9159 6 жыл бұрын
I'm shooting these composite bows for about 15 years, and I really like the history of Huns Magyars and all the eastern nomad tribes. 1. the under saddle tenderized meat is not true. They put meat under the saddle, but not for eating. Their saddles are made from wood and harmed the back of the horses. The meat helped the prevent and cure this 2. The arrows are not traditional. (I am using arrows from the same manufacturer Szalóky és Kelemen made in hungary. But the arroh heads are bonded to the wood. In the past the rods were made froma twig and the heads were knitted. 3. It would be more autentic if you store the arrows up side down in the quiver. 4. Check Lajos Kassai, he is the best horse archer in the world! #nooffense
@taliesinmusic
@taliesinmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE HOW PASSIONATE THIS MAN IS IT"S AMAZING!
@GoodnightMoon666
@GoodnightMoon666 6 жыл бұрын
10:19 "For the love of me. DO NOT. DRY. FIRE. A. BOW."
@DEMIntern
@DEMIntern 6 жыл бұрын
10:20 The whole time leading up I'm like, "I hope that guy told them beforehand not to dry fire a bow." haha
@TheStrangerous
@TheStrangerous 6 жыл бұрын
The shame...
@DEMIntern
@DEMIntern 6 жыл бұрын
It was great. I've definitely heard some horror stories of dry fires gone wrong. Glad the bow held up. Any chance of a Part 2: Horse Riding Edition?
@BrandtHughes
@BrandtHughes 6 жыл бұрын
I definitely gave advanced warning about dry firing, haha. Part 2 is all about riding horses and shooting from horses.
@FilmersBlockEnt
@FilmersBlockEnt 2 жыл бұрын
That unfortunate dry fire. But, I did that when I was 8. I praise this teacher/guest, he had more patience than my friend's uncle.
@JohnathanGross
@JohnathanGross 6 жыл бұрын
It's a little disingenuous to say that the record was set with that kind of bow. It's a modern design based on older recursive bows. But what's really amazing is that the record holder was 14 at the time.
@qazaqwert
@qazaqwert 6 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Gross I'm surprised it wasn't done with some crazy compound bow honestly.
@dace48
@dace48 6 жыл бұрын
Very true, he also failed to mention that a "flight bow" is massively different to a target bow and especially a war bow.
@rodparsons521
@rodparsons521 6 жыл бұрын
There is a flight record for most types of bows, including compound bows. And as you might expect the compound flight bow shoots a lighter arrow further than any traditional composite flight bow But whereas effective "war" arrows tend to be heavy, flight shafts tend to be very light and so are less effective as artillery. They go further but do less damage when they get there. 125 grains, 275 grains, 750 grains or 1750 grains at arrow speeds? Do the math. In any case, the Mongol's main military advantage was not in their archery equipment per se, but in how it was employed. In their co-ordination and discipline in achieving clearly understood objectives, they wrote the book on modern cavalry tactics.
@sarahsayshello9726
@sarahsayshello9726 5 жыл бұрын
@@qazaqwert compounds are gross man
@dexterrr9163
@dexterrr9163 5 жыл бұрын
@Out-Of-Context that is yet to be proved. Any ancient scripts could be overly stated
@Xtant-audio
@Xtant-audio 6 жыл бұрын
Whistling arrow, whistling arrow
@Xtant-audio
@Xtant-audio 6 жыл бұрын
Okay...
@RyllenKriel
@RyllenKriel 6 жыл бұрын
I hear Mongolians also used curved swords...curved swords!
@Felahliir
@Felahliir 6 жыл бұрын
RyllenKriel They also stole my sweetroll...
@something3118
@something3118 6 жыл бұрын
r/unexpectedskyrim
@amoslancing6388
@amoslancing6388 6 жыл бұрын
Zakaria Wait.. I know you
@kalsukong
@kalsukong 5 жыл бұрын
i am learning korean bow and its pretty similar with mongoliam bow. right sided shooting and using thumbring....by far this vid is so educative. thank you so much!
@Heywhatsupmyman
@Heywhatsupmyman 5 жыл бұрын
His accent in genuine. Your ear is getting acclimated to it. His English is just good.
@TylerNGOakley
@TylerNGOakley 6 жыл бұрын
The quality of these videos are absolutely amazing.
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
So glad you like them, man. help us spread the word?
@alex_bauwens
@alex_bauwens 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this! I practice mounted archery, and I love how informative they made this video. Great job, guys!!
@kaiyuanzhu5093
@kaiyuanzhu5093 5 жыл бұрын
Hey,this video is so cool!( ^_^) I'm from China,which has also experienced many wars during the 12~14th century. It's true that ancient mongol soldiers were "just nothing more than horses and bow".But actually,the mongol empire alrealy had different types of soldiers after its conquering in the mid-east area. In fact, ancient mongol people were very smart at war. They know how to learn advanced technology from other countries.And before they start to conquer Europe,they already govern some Asia countries for many years.So,when they came to Europe,their army was a sum of light&heavy cavalry, different kinds of siege trains and a large number of following carpenters. That was totally different to European army at that time.Maybe mongolia army is more advanced at that time. Thanks for finishing all my words.And thanks for sharing this video again.
@altynadam6151
@altynadam6151 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing variety of nomad recurve bow! Thanks guys! Fermented horse milk of Cetral Asian steppes has its own (Turkic/ Mongolian) name - KUMYS. Call a spade a spade )). Very impressive discussion over a bunch of bows. I wish I saw more practice and shooting
@moonshinetheleocat1235
@moonshinetheleocat1235 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the English long bows were feared for very good reason. Heavy draw weight. Longer draw, which means it can fire heavier arrows. And could hit at a much further distance than most other bows and can still kill. Plus when the string broke, the bow could be used as a quarter staff.
@benji280792
@benji280792 Жыл бұрын
English longbow are long to stand tremendous constrains of enormous draw wheights. Their shape is like that because it's easy and fast to make them from a stave.
@vst77
@vst77 6 жыл бұрын
Am I gonna be the only one to point out that the Huns weren’t Mongolian
@mongolchiuud8931
@mongolchiuud8931 5 жыл бұрын
These people couldnt tell the difference between a Hun,Hungarian(Magyars),Mongol,Turk,Tungus or Scythian apart if you throw encyclopedia at them.
@borgilbatbaatar4949
@borgilbatbaatar4949 5 жыл бұрын
Huns our ancestor
@kriskringus2191
@kriskringus2191 5 жыл бұрын
Kama Jiu-jitsu Hmmm, almost as if central Asia and eastern Europe isn’t as relevant to American history, so we don’t particularly care to be experts on the subject. Mind your own.
@mongolchiuud8931
@mongolchiuud8931 5 жыл бұрын
Oliver O'Keafe Americans are known worldwide to be ignorant to everything including there own history. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4SpZ4Zuppt4h6M 😂
@DespothLord
@DespothLord 5 жыл бұрын
@@kriskringus2191 History and America ? lol theres nothing to learn
@richardpowell4281
@richardpowell4281 6 жыл бұрын
Finally I can now fulfill my conquest of East Asia. Thanks MR
@hadrianbuiltawall9531
@hadrianbuiltawall9531 3 жыл бұрын
Something to note. The shorter the bow, the "lighter" the arrow. The lighter the arrow, the less penetration. Less penetration, less damage. This is adapted for by getting close which is only really possible if you are mounted and your target isn't. If you're on a fast moving horse, not a problem since you can get close (50ft or so), fire and leave. If you're an infantry archer, you can't leave so you want a heavy, high damage, missile to put your target on the ground now, not in three shots time. I should also note that the "longbow" using nations had to deal with significantly heavier armour on their targets. This is why the vast majority changed to crossbows which were much better at armour penetration. The Chinese used crossbows against the Mongols and found a small problem. The Mongols didn't use heavy armour but could fire much faster. The attrition rate was not in favour of the crossbows.
@TigerBears11
@TigerBears11 6 жыл бұрын
This channel is seriously underrated.
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
Help us spread the word!
@TigerBears11
@TigerBears11 6 жыл бұрын
I sure will, keep up the great work!
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 6 жыл бұрын
The Modern Rogue You should totally be on TV.
@teamcybr8375
@teamcybr8375 6 жыл бұрын
JonMacFhearghuis Hell no. TV has restrictions.
@TigerBears11
@TigerBears11 6 жыл бұрын
The Brennan if Jackass can be on TV then Modern Rogue can be. The issue isn’t the restrictions, it’s the fact that when it comes to videos like these it’s a format much better suited to KZbin, where they have more freedom.
@tzisorey
@tzisorey 6 жыл бұрын
You should try using different targets. I did archery as my elective sport in high school, and one thing that surprised me was the day they brought in animals painted on cardboard with higher scores near the heart, instead of the standard circular bullseye. The entire team's score almost tripled, despite the size of the targets being smaller. I guess it's just something primitive in the brain.
@TheStrangerous
@TheStrangerous 6 жыл бұрын
Tzisorey Tigerwuf Ha! A primitive hunter’s instinct.
@Yusuf1187
@Yusuf1187 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if also the fact that it's a smaller target helps people focus and aim more instinctively. I may try that experiment myself, and make a smaller target sometime and compare how well I do vs the large traditional one I normally use.
@PsPmoddedOUT
@PsPmoddedOUT 6 жыл бұрын
It's called aim small miss smaller
@person9513
@person9513 3 жыл бұрын
"Thats not gonna happen, hun" nice one jason
@chadhill455
@chadhill455 6 жыл бұрын
13:20 I found that edit of him dropping the arrow and it hitting the target way funnier than is reasonable...
@bigjai
@bigjai 6 жыл бұрын
chad hill 😂
@nathangek
@nathangek 6 жыл бұрын
So that's what happened to FPS Russia
@Dankster-yo8xv
@Dankster-yo8xv 6 жыл бұрын
PNathan NOOOOOO FPS?
@Rizboy02
@Rizboy02 6 жыл бұрын
FPS Prussia
@davidkrowa4153
@davidkrowa4153 5 жыл бұрын
That isnt really him right?
@dakota3347
@dakota3347 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidkrowa4153 No, right now hes a host on a podcast. Painkiller Already
@gavinbatch6377
@gavinbatch6377 5 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment!
@ambiguouszenithar
@ambiguouszenithar Жыл бұрын
And thus we were all brought here
@yv334
@yv334 6 жыл бұрын
The Hun's accent keeps shifting throughout the episode.
@Loaderbot
@Loaderbot 6 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Moran yeah thats just how te accent is
@edwardboryszewski5273
@edwardboryszewski5273 6 жыл бұрын
Po 316 error code C715 vis file
@PNJB_R
@PNJB_R 5 жыл бұрын
Hungarian but he is not decendant of hun, huns from central Asia - very few Hungarians are actual Huns only ruling class mixed
@mongolchiuud8931
@mongolchiuud8931 5 жыл бұрын
@@PNJB_R smh....Huns and Hungarians are not the same thing. Its a fairly known misconception. Huns were a 3rd to 4th century Multi-Ethnic Nomanic confederation of Turkic(ruling class) with Slavic,Germanic,Alani and other smaller ethnic groups. Hungarians or rather what they call themselves are Magyars and are from the 9th century AD about 500 years after the Huns.(Hungarian is just what the Europeans called them because their culture resembled Huns). And the ruling class were Finno-Ugric speaking tribes with secondary Turkic(Kabars,Cumans,Pechenegs etc) with some Alani(Jasz) elements. Fun Fact: The closest relatives according to grave DNA and linguistics from 9th century graves is the Mansi and Khanty people of the Yugra region(Slavs also called the Magyars or hungarians as Uhgors or Ugre people.
@sosig6445
@sosig6445 5 жыл бұрын
@@mongolchiuud8931 We didn't just popped out in the 9th century, that's when we arrived at our current homeland but we were a separate distingt nomadic nation centuries before that.
@kaialoha
@kaialoha 5 жыл бұрын
The samurai bow is a recurved longbow with an asymetrical draw with the lower limb short enough to be used on horseback. It was highly effective shooting long heavy shafts.
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking 3 жыл бұрын
That thing launched torpedos.
@SetuwoKecik
@SetuwoKecik Жыл бұрын
What makes me curious is acually they're mostly using yumi on horseback despite the size is actually similar to longbow.
@mertz7305
@mertz7305 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about as impressed with Brian remembering the katra thing as I am with episode as a whole. I love this one guys. Keep it up!
@BackstageChief
@BackstageChief 6 жыл бұрын
I screamed a little when he dry fired
@pestoriusj
@pestoriusj 6 жыл бұрын
I had been incredibly uncomfortable for the 30 seconds prior to that, thinking "surely he won't surely he won't he's gonna do it isn't he"
@daniilrocks
@daniilrocks 6 жыл бұрын
The power (Kinetic Energy) of a bow is a product of the length of the limbs (and draw length) and weight required to draw the bow. Longer bows dont need as much "poundage" to transfer as much energy as a shorter bow. That is why most "Long" bows are generally between 35-90 lbs, and crossbows have weights generally in the hundreds, going up to 400+ in some cases.
@sparkatorch
@sparkatorch 6 жыл бұрын
Daniil Paulo Except when the short bow is made out of superior materials and design, but also being more fragile and costly to make at the same time.
@franklinvonfrankenstein1137
@franklinvonfrankenstein1137 5 жыл бұрын
No
@joaopedrobarbosacoelho455
@joaopedrobarbosacoelho455 3 жыл бұрын
The longbow is not just because of tradition, it's because of mechanical advantage: instead of pushing harder, for the same energy, you can push further. Imagine the bow as a spring. If you have a spring A with Hooke's coefficient k, the same spring Bwith four times e the unstressed length had coefficient k/4. If we push A by a length x, we have Force=kx and Energy=kx^2/2, on the other way, if the push B by 2x, we have Force=k/4 (2x)=k/2 and Energy=1/2 k/4(2 x)^2 = k x^2/2. See? For the same energy, we can push 4 times the length by half the force. It works just like a lever.
@rammo2k
@rammo2k 6 жыл бұрын
i legit picked up krav maga because of you guys. one of the best decisions of a long while, thanks for inspiring me!
@darkmannight1
@darkmannight1 6 жыл бұрын
GWDYG Pick up Dragon Ball Fighterz, now available for Xbox One and Playstation 4
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
oh, wow! That's fantastic to hear!
@darkmannight1
@darkmannight1 6 жыл бұрын
The Modern Rogue I know, Dragon Ball Fighterz is the first DBZ game to get above an 80!
@AFUFreeman720
@AFUFreeman720 6 жыл бұрын
this production value is too damn high. I like it
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
Man, that opening came out so great, right?
@AFUFreeman720
@AFUFreeman720 6 жыл бұрын
It was pretty damn strong, yeah. So was the video overall! Chill vibe, great guest, fun facts. Good episode!
@fmagalhaes1521
@fmagalhaes1521 2 жыл бұрын
I now know what kind of bow I want. A Mongolian Horse Bow. They look so elegant…as compared with the high tech bows nowadays. But then again, those traditional bows were once high tech.. :):)
@PAPO1990
@PAPO1990 6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of surviving the apocalypse, no one could ever remember EVERY Modern Rogue episode, but in an apocalypse the internet is likely to be one of the first things to go. Maybe we need some sort of hard copy of every episode ever. So when the apocalypse comes, (assuming we still have some way to have power, which isn't THAT hard really) there's still a way to look up everything the Modern Rogue has ever done.
@marleym1126
@marleym1126 6 жыл бұрын
PAPO1990 they could just write a book
@CaffeinatedTech
@CaffeinatedTech 6 жыл бұрын
You know, they could probably sell bluray compilations. I'd probably buy a Modern Rogue box set.
@pandintea
@pandintea 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could write a book that has all of this information in it
@CWGminer
@CWGminer 6 жыл бұрын
I have all the modern rogue videos on a flash drive :) I'm prepared
@MJ-zx7hn
@MJ-zx7hn 6 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't need to remember every episode, only the ones that would be relevant and useful in a post-apocalyptic situation. That being said, I am sure they have a record of all their videos.
@jacewhite8540
@jacewhite8540 6 жыл бұрын
I knew you were going to dry fire that bow.
@93FXDL
@93FXDL 6 жыл бұрын
Me too
@rageraptor7127
@rageraptor7127 3 жыл бұрын
For those people who don’t know anything about history or ancient history. I highly suggest you learn about all these different groups of people. Kings and general, historyMarche, and a few other have extremely interesting videos on both wars, and the culture of these ancients peoples. Trust me. This video is so much more satisfying when you the history of the people mentioned. And their channels are really good quality. I love learning about stuff like this. And trust me there’s a lot of interesting stories that you can easily get sunk into.
@gusteg4823
@gusteg4823 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching. Now we know not to Dry Fire A Bow especially someone else's bow, it's disrespectful right.. I've never heard of that cause I'm not an archer or never been to archery. Now I know. Lesson learned.
@NamNguyen-hn2cc
@NamNguyen-hn2cc 5 жыл бұрын
All the energy will be transferred to the bow instead of the arrow and it could damage your bow.
@blakedavis2447
@blakedavis2447 4 жыл бұрын
Your ignorance disgusts me prepare for your village to be raided by my armies
@lolsflint7598
@lolsflint7598 4 жыл бұрын
7:10 The fact that is is really wide makes it perfect for your story as well; it requires the same thing. just to get cut, no piercing necessary. So it has a wider hitbox to hit the smaller hitbox of the rope to free your party member so you can continue grinding that coin through those scams.
@germanictradlifewarriorarc6414
@germanictradlifewarriorarc6414 3 жыл бұрын
You two guy inspiring me to be an good archer 2 years back, hats off..
@soulses4549
@soulses4549 6 жыл бұрын
Best one yet about learning to use a weapon
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@VeNoM0619
@VeNoM0619 6 жыл бұрын
I love how 1 in every 5 videos I am like, "this is going to be boring" Then watch as an expert gives a wonderful rundown, and become thoroughly amused :)
@HaykAmirbekyanTKD
@HaykAmirbekyanTKD 4 жыл бұрын
2:09 Why use a longbow? The correct answer- longbows can shoot heavier arrows than small bows, thats the main advantage. A heavier arrow at the same speed as a lighter arrow delivers more force.
@nguyenkhanhtoan2859
@nguyenkhanhtoan2859 4 жыл бұрын
i think they they are easier to make, right? and last longer maybe, bc they don't have multiple components.
@HaykAmirbekyanTKD
@HaykAmirbekyanTKD 4 жыл бұрын
​@@nguyenkhanhtoan2859 yeas they are easy to make compared to composite bows. However, longbows have many other advantages. and this idiot in the video is making itseem likethe english just werent sophisticated enough to make compound bows. thats false. Wherever metal and hevay armor existed, bows needed to be heavier to shoot heavier arrows where kinetic energy is not as important as sheer force in penetrating metal armor. mass becomes more important than velocity as the target becomes heavier!
@hoosierua
@hoosierua 5 жыл бұрын
"Firing" Arrows.... 𝐞𝐱𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐦𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐟𝐮𝐜𝐤.
@mailais3403
@mailais3403 5 жыл бұрын
@Professor Weaboo Shooting Loosing Because you can't "fire" an arrow that's for FIREarm
@Sjoholm13
@Sjoholm13 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that dry fire hurt my soul, but it's entirely awesome to see you guys doing archery!
@ModernRogue
@ModernRogue 6 жыл бұрын
hey, quick question: how come the archery people are all correcting us, saying "you 'fire' a gun, you don't 'fire' an arrow," ...but then everyone refers to my mistake as a "dry fire"? Which is the preferred word?
@Sjoholm13
@Sjoholm13 6 жыл бұрын
Good question! I might not be able to answer it correctly since English isn't my first language, but allow me to speculate: I believe the more correct terms are to "shoot" or "loosen" (or maybe "release"? In Swedish it's "shoot") an arrow, since you're loosening your grip on the string or arrow. I did some googling and found this: "The term dry firing is most likely derived from the similar phrase "dry run", which is a rehearsal or testing process and in the case of the firearm, one is "testing" the trigger action and observing the hammer or striker drop, without using live ammunition. Sources indicate that "dry" originates from exhibitions by late-19th-century fire departments in the United States, where drills (runs) were conducted for public viewing without the use of water (dry)." I have also come across the term "dry loosing" when it comes to bows, but to be honest, I don't think any of it actually matters. Us archery dorks can be rather particular about details, while being completely blind to our own mistakes. I guess that is what happens when you focus on a tiny point on a target for too long. Huh, I actually managed to get quasi-philosophical with this answer... Anyway, hope it brought some sort of clarity!
@alexe589
@alexe589 6 жыл бұрын
you could also ask why its called "dry" firing, when there is nothing wet about shooting a real arrow or bullet.
@ashtonburroughs8944
@ashtonburroughs8944 6 жыл бұрын
The Modern Rogue honestly people who are correcting you just have nothing better to do, I shoot archery and I still say fire an arrow So it just depends on how you were introduced
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os Жыл бұрын
I somehow only discovered this awesome video now.
@cyzam
@cyzam 5 жыл бұрын
that dry fire really hurt me ouchhhhhhh... once done it accidentally with 60 pound compound (twisted raiser so string jumped off the wheels) and man i'm glad it didn't destroy the limbs... nice tutorial btw! gotta get me some turkish bows now!
@ncoker
@ncoker 6 жыл бұрын
We need an "Oh, Wow!" Counter for Jason
@abhi7936
@abhi7936 Жыл бұрын
2:20 Longbows are easier to maintain. Easier to make, simpler design. More stable. Because of its size it will distribute weight better, so when you are pulling heavy bows, it will wobble less compared to a short bow, until you get used to the shorter one. This is why people say "longer bows are more forgiving".
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