How I Zero My Red Dot On My Pistol

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Modern Samurai Project

Modern Samurai Project

6 жыл бұрын

Find myself repeating my thoughts on this a lot. Hope you dig it.

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@Ureyeuh
@Ureyeuh 5 жыл бұрын
So I found you through John at ASP, and I gotta say, you're the most straightforward, ego-less, normal instructor I think I've come across. No tough guy nonsense, no clear push to be macho, etc. I really dig it. This will help me a lot with zero'ing my red dot. I'm horrible with this.
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 5 жыл бұрын
AKeyboard Warrior I appreciate that my friend.
@lovermeindustries
@lovermeindustries 4 жыл бұрын
Best video quote ever: "I can't see shit at 25"...keep it real!!
@Big88Country
@Big88Country 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and tips! Really wish I would have found you sooner on here! Really appreciate your no nonsense approach!
@jacobowashington
@jacobowashington 6 жыл бұрын
One of the most helpful videos for red dot shooters. Thanks!
@fmxmyway
@fmxmyway 6 жыл бұрын
Real world red dot sighting in is the heat! Thanks Jedi!
@anthonyjcl
@anthonyjcl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the help with the videos and tutorials. I try to catch any video on YT that comes up in your course and I learn so much. It's hard to get into your classes at the moment but I hope to get in one next year.
@jeffw.5462
@jeffw.5462 3 жыл бұрын
Very practical, a breath of fresh air. Thanks!
@theebigda
@theebigda Жыл бұрын
I have a brand new FN 502 (22LR) with a Vortex Red Dot that I'm going to zero in this weekend. It's my first time ever doing this. I've sighted in a rifle before, but never a pistol. Fingers crossed. Seems pretty straight forward though. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@wellregulated8725
@wellregulated8725 6 жыл бұрын
“Put it in the middle of the brown and go.”
@Overlandingtruckie
@Overlandingtruckie 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice Jedi!!!!thanks brother.
@ramos5464
@ramos5464 6 жыл бұрын
People will always find something to bitch about. Thank you for the good info as always.
@LookingIntently
@LookingIntently 6 жыл бұрын
I have a CZ PCR with a Delta Pro coming from Cajun Custom tomorrow. I'll be zeroing it this weekend. Thanks for the video.
@roberthaxton9887
@roberthaxton9887 5 жыл бұрын
Good info. Going to zero my RMR on my VP9 tomorrow.
@lalalala3968
@lalalala3968 2 жыл бұрын
This guy know his shit.
@frankanusky3095
@frankanusky3095 3 жыл бұрын
Wow i learn so much from your video's Thanks!! I love my red dot even more now..
@JEJAK5396
@JEJAK5396 6 жыл бұрын
Good info Jedi!
@c-note4146
@c-note4146 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a video you’ve made discussing the relationship between stigmatism of the eye and the effects that has on the clarity of the dot?
@normburke7774
@normburke7774 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a newbie to the competition shooting world in 🇨🇦 and enjoy it tremendously to me it’s the most fun you can have with you pants on lol, I’ve recently installed a 🔴 and have been struggling to get used to it and getting it zeroed in, I’m gonna head to the range and try this out thanks for the info
@ckholiness
@ckholiness 5 жыл бұрын
So right out of the box, you’re not using the iron sights for a reference or just not at all? Put the dot on target and then adjust accordingly ?
@TheSquirrelE
@TheSquirrelE 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome info. Thanks!
@bull2808
@bull2808 6 жыл бұрын
Basically just did this. 25 yards seemed excessive for me. I did test and reconfirm after initial zero...and I used the carry ammo I use to do the zero, not range ammo. They both seemed to be close enough. Carry ammo ( Federal HST 147) is spot on and range ammo (Federal 115 American Eagle FMJ) was close enough.
@ronejr766
@ronejr766 Жыл бұрын
Question.. Why 115 instead of 147, like what you carry?
@jeffpraterJSF
@jeffpraterJSF Жыл бұрын
@@ronejr766115gr is $1 cheaper per box
@ejh66
@ejh66 4 жыл бұрын
Great info. I too zero at 10 yards.
@Intellistan
@Intellistan 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Much, much better than the other long winded, fast talking, overdone videos on the same topic.
@bretmcgough172
@bretmcgough172 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you.
@scdave100
@scdave100 6 жыл бұрын
Good vid Scott!
@TheBigpappa160
@TheBigpappa160 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, I just learned more from your 8 min video than I have watching 3 other 12 min or longer video. Any chance you will be teaching any classes in Alabama?
@anthonybmwsoldat1530
@anthonybmwsoldat1530 3 жыл бұрын
6 is cheaper! love that!!! thank you Sir!
@NEWYORK577
@NEWYORK577 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much much for that I needed that straight forward
@misternobody1933
@misternobody1933 Жыл бұрын
You are 100% right!
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 3 жыл бұрын
Great Intel!
@jerrymoore7454
@jerrymoore7454 2 жыл бұрын
Any tips for zeroing a red dot that will be a suppressor host?
@michaelborski2373
@michaelborski2373 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta do it tomorrow for my new piece. Thank you
@shootersara
@shootersara 3 ай бұрын
Just the video I needed!
@ghostinthemachine88
@ghostinthemachine88 6 ай бұрын
Nice take. All good things to consider. Cheers!
@billdrill22
@billdrill22 3 жыл бұрын
Helps. Thank you.
@TheSquirrelE
@TheSquirrelE 3 жыл бұрын
Great info! I'm new to red dot optics and this is a great info vid. Thanks!!!
@snprdog
@snprdog 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it...helped me
@kristinastackhouse270
@kristinastackhouse270 3 жыл бұрын
So helpful!
@ucs1911
@ucs1911 9 ай бұрын
That was helpful. Thanks 🤘
@visionv
@visionv 6 жыл бұрын
Subed! Great stuff!
@osaze61
@osaze61 3 жыл бұрын
A-way seems to be the simplest way....thank u
@normburke7774
@normburke7774 3 жыл бұрын
Well at the range set her up like you said and holly shit did that work awesome wish I would have watched your video 1200 rounds ago I was almost ready to chucked that 🔴 in the garbage, but everything fell into place and made total sense THANKS
@countryfamilyalways7280
@countryfamilyalways7280 3 жыл бұрын
The other unique thing about a 10 yard zero is its almost identical to an 85 yard zero and is right on at 10 yards also. Only real difference is at 100 yards the 10 zero is .1 inches lower then 85 yard zero at 100. This is with 9mm 124 grain HST. So with 85 or 10 yard zero the most you will be off from 0 to 100 yards is 2.3 inches. Check out Federals ballistic calculator as its all right there.
@trailertrashtactics
@trailertrashtactics 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure to Verify this rather than relying on ballistic calculators. I'm about 10" high at 70 with one pistol and much different with others.
@countryfamilyalways7280
@countryfamilyalways7280 2 жыл бұрын
@@trailertrashtactics well of course you would verify....
@jpipaj
@jpipaj 3 жыл бұрын
Great info
@roberthernandez142
@roberthernandez142 4 жыл бұрын
I am having my M&P milled for the Holosun 507C and I have been watching your videos which make a lot of sense compared to others I'v seen. I would like to take one of your classes how do I find one in Arizona? Thanks
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Hernandez go to MODERNSAMURAI Project.com
@ramonbenitez4093
@ramonbenitez4093 5 жыл бұрын
Great thanks.
@Epilogue_x
@Epilogue_x 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Scott. I recently zeroed my RMR at 10 yards (glock 19). But I found that my dot actually significantly dips below my 1/3 co-witness sights (rear sight behind optic). It means that when I shoot with the dot, I actually tilt my gun up and my rear sight lines up with the base of the front sight blade. Is this normal?
@douglassalley9117
@douglassalley9117 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. "J". I just read were you will have a 2 day class near me!! $500.00 isn't much more then 1K of ammo. On Oct. 11-12 you'll be in Gulfport MS. I was born there and I live in the Mobile AL area now. (just a 2 hour or less drive. I drive that far just to play the casinos! lol) In the description of the course you say we need to bring 1K rounds. Is that all self defense rounds or will range rounds be OK? I think I heard on one of your videos that you zero with carry ammo. I have the money...the hard part is being away from my companion for that long. She has MS and doesn't drive, besides we only have one car anyway. I'll work it out. I have butterflies in my stomach just thinking I will be taken a class from you or some of your crew!! I'm 73 and been shooting RDS for about two years now. I'm effective, tactfully as my instructor/friend would say, and in the little locale range matches, I'm pretty good at not shooting the hostage, lol.
@vicabramov8983
@vicabramov8983 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda suck at weak hand shooting. My finger knuckles were broken in my youth and the trigger fingers is deformed a bit. Could I still do this process - just strong hand alone ?
@inlandbhsk8r
@inlandbhsk8r 3 жыл бұрын
When he says off-hand, he’s meaning standing and shooting with a normal grip, not using a bench, or anything to stabilize your weapon, not your non-dominant hand. Hope that helps.
@terryholloway9930
@terryholloway9930 4 күн бұрын
Thanks good info
@jth_printed_designs
@jth_printed_designs 3 жыл бұрын
Having a hard time seeing how your impact could be any lower at 10 yards than the vertical distance between the bore and the red dot. Lets say that distance is 1", how exactly is that bullet supposed to dip down to impact a foot low at 10 and then be right on at 25? Is this the magic JFK bullet?
@countryfamilyalways7280
@countryfamilyalways7280 3 жыл бұрын
He's wrong on that I believe, at 5 yard using 124 gr 9mm HST it should be about .6 inches low.
@ImperiumLibertas
@ImperiumLibertas 6 ай бұрын
At 5 yards with 1000fps 9mm with a 10 yard zero you're getting .4in of rise or -7.8 moa
@Bionic_man09
@Bionic_man09 3 жыл бұрын
After wasting about a thousand rounds I’m not sold on the rmr. For one, I can’t get a decent zero to save my life and my groupings are minute of barn door. When I switch back to an iron sight gun I’m drilling the x ring all day long
@gunsandcommissions
@gunsandcommissions 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just starting with dots (been shooting irons for 2.5 decades) and my experience was the exact opposite. I love the dot and I’m more accurate at 15 yards with it then I am at 7 with irons. And I’m a LOT faster. Like pretty easily mag dumping my Shadow Systems 19 into a 6” circle at 10 yards faster.
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 4 ай бұрын
did you mean 1/4inch high at 15 yard, and 3/4 inch at 25 yard? I was thinking the bullet would still rise at those distance with 10 yard zero.
@setarjunjason8991
@setarjunjason8991 2 жыл бұрын
your video, you trynto recall since Sep 2020, until today's what you remember?
@SullyCortez
@SullyCortez 5 жыл бұрын
@ModernSamuraiProject I did this with my Holosun507C on a milled Glock 19 Gen5 and at 10yrds holy shit I’ve never been more accurate. I just got a RDS because I’m legally blind without my glasses and I want to be able to make accurate shots should I lose them in a self defense encounter. This video and the one from Caleb(I think is how you spell it) of Gun Nuts Media seriously helped me so much. But I saw a video of some guys(Karl?) who had picked up a ransom rest and while they said yes you won’t ever be as accurate as the rest, the point of it is because your trigger control could suck ass and now your shots aren’t a few inches off they’re actually feet off at slightly farther distances & closeup dep on what distance you zero for. I’ve been watching all your videos and seriously your content and channel is absolutely amazing. Would love to get some training from you. Thank you so much for all the information.
@rodralig
@rodralig 5 жыл бұрын
Quick question (as I was unclear) - you said that at 25-yards, the bullet is hitting 1-inch low. If so, why aim at the bottom of the head A-zine to hit the middle of the box? Thanks!
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 5 жыл бұрын
Alfred Rodriguez I may have misspoken. It will hit 1 inch or so high. .
@rodralig
@rodralig 5 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject Ok, that would make sense. I have zeroed my CO at 25-yards; I will re-evaluate at 10-yards, and see how it goes. Thank you for the response.
@saiyanneo469
@saiyanneo469 3 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject thanks for the clarification. I had the same question, but figured I look in the comments first before asking. Lol.
@brianshuler6951
@brianshuler6951 2 жыл бұрын
I have just started watching you and have just gotten my first red dot. My short history with it is the sight has to be canted downward 30⁰ and right 10⁰ just to get the dot on the glass. At this angle, the bottom half of the sight window is blocked from view by the rear face of the sight housing. After adjusting to maximum up and left, the point of inpact at 3 yards is 5"-6" low and 2"-3" right. I sent it back to the manufacturer and they responded that it was "fine", "in specs", they did nothing, and returned it. Last week I remounted the "inspected" site and the substantially obscured site window and points of impact are exactly the same as before I sent it in. If I had limitless adjustment range, I could zero it. I believe the emitter is projecting the dot incorrectly. I know I am a novice with red dots, but, is there a better way to descrbe the situation to the service department so they will actually test and fix it?
@PauIyM
@PauIyM 2 жыл бұрын
quit limp wristing your gun
@markdavidson1049
@markdavidson1049 2 жыл бұрын
@@PauIyM That has nothing to do with his issue.
@nicholasnarvaez2587
@nicholasnarvaez2587 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would just get another red dot.
@gunsngearchannel
@gunsngearchannel 6 жыл бұрын
So just curious. Why off hand? Great info and great video. Thanks.
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 6 жыл бұрын
Less work. No need to get a chair and rest or a bench or whatever.
@NE-MTBR
@NE-MTBR Жыл бұрын
@modern samurai project my question is do you co-witness ?? This video doesn’t mention it??? Btw: Love this video thanks for making it
@gerryc1982
@gerryc1982 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you use the iron sights to zero the red dot? Do you have any video on the actual process? Not sure if my question makes sense. Sorry.
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. They are two separate sighting systems.
@donlocke64
@donlocke64 3 жыл бұрын
i have astigmatism in my right eye, (dominant eye ) do you have any knowledge of 1 red dot being better than another with astigmatism, also with my left eye i see the dot perfectly, can you you aim and shoot effectively with non dominant eye, thanks
@EloEast
@EloEast 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t look at the dot. Focus on target. No more blurry dot.
@patrickcreamer9947
@patrickcreamer9947 4 жыл бұрын
Which Leupold DPP would you put on a pistol. The dot or the delta?
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Creamer Dot all day long
@mylesrickbeil1493
@mylesrickbeil1493 5 жыл бұрын
Good info. Good use of Atreyu as well.
@travisb2352
@travisb2352 6 жыл бұрын
need that hoodie!
@GIO_RUBBLE
@GIO_RUBBLE 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips i just bought a rmr07 my eyes are old...... i'll give it a whirl!
@zackiinu7194
@zackiinu7194 5 жыл бұрын
LOOWB RUBBLE Hi Loowb. How’s the rmr07 working for you? I’m just curious because I’m having my slide milled right now and having the same rmr installed. At 58, my eyes aren’t what they used to be either. Thanks.
@KeyboardG23
@KeyboardG23 4 жыл бұрын
Scott I’m out here in AZ just wondering if you teach any red dot 🔴 courses???
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 4 жыл бұрын
G Pizarro March in Prescott
@onoes9646
@onoes9646 4 жыл бұрын
Huh, didn't think that jacked up windage at 25 (but not at 10) could be due to ammo rather than shooter error.
@ThePatriotParadox
@ThePatriotParadox 2 жыл бұрын
Btw I collect patches, absolutely love TMS patch!
@RobG-KD9YBZ
@RobG-KD9YBZ 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you’ve answered this before, but you mentioned in the video you zero by shooting off hand. Why off hand instead of dominant hand supported?
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 2 жыл бұрын
Off hand means without a bench.
@RobG-KD9YBZ
@RobG-KD9YBZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject ah got it. My brain wasn’t working that out.
@36roko
@36roko 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, I want to take your class in North Carolina on March 2023, but it has a pre-requisite of taken a class on red zero torture. How can I take care of this? what do you recommend me?
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 2 жыл бұрын
Not a class just get a good score on the drill
@36roko
@36roko 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject perfect! i will try to enroll in the class ( my mistake it's on April not March) thank you very much!
@Duda4711
@Duda4711 2 жыл бұрын
How is it possible to hit one foot below POA at 7 yds when zeroed at 25 yds? Two possibilities, either his height over bore is over one foot (not likely) or he/she doesn’t know how to shoot.
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 2 жыл бұрын
He was probably embellishing. That said I am pretty sure Caleb Giddings can shoot.
@billf9847
@billf9847 8 ай бұрын
So, although this was six years ago, when you put this out, hopefully you’ll see this or someone could answer this. I’ve heard that the lazy man’s way initially before you really get out to the range to get the dot at least on target and within center mass or within that center area of the body, you can lollipop as I was told or slave, the red dot to the top of your front side so it looks like a little head sitting on the body kind of thing is that true just to get it dialed in before you get out of the range and a general Area of focus I guess without truly doing the 10 yards initially so the clarify slaving the red dot to the front side initially just for argument sake is that OK slaving it you want to get out there and fire and so you know exactly where it’s going, but is there anything wrong with slaving it initially to kind of get you in the ballparkand we’re talking not more than 10 yards that you would be probably focused on anyway
@teammosin9999
@teammosin9999 3 жыл бұрын
Woot!
@timpetrillo2802
@timpetrillo2802 4 жыл бұрын
I would like your thoughts on having the rear iron sights in front of the dot, instead of behind it, and also do you zero with carry ammo or training ammo?
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Petrillo Don’t really care. Personal preference. With target focus I don’t see my irons. I zero with my carry but my training ammo prints the same.
@ABiblicalView
@ABiblicalView 2 жыл бұрын
I zero at 25yrd because that's the range where precision would be more needed imo
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 Жыл бұрын
I never understood the worship behind the 25y zero..... 10 yards is perfect.
@douglassalley9117
@douglassalley9117 4 жыл бұрын
I understand zeroing 10 yards. That is wear I had my zeroed at. But, doing it free standing? Many times my trigger finger doesn't do what it's suppose to do!!!..lol, but I'll try it when I get my Smith 2.0 back from local gunsmith. He's milling my slide for a 507C. I've had it on the back of my slide for about 4 months. He talked me into getting off the fence and "get it done".
@robbie154
@robbie154 4 жыл бұрын
10 yards makes so much more practical sense. Most CCW shootings and law enforcement shootings are within 7. 25 yard zeros are dick size contests.
@christiansands7172
@christiansands7172 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Tampa Florida sooo it's becoming a debate getting one based on rain and humidity
@saiyanneo469
@saiyanneo469 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same state in similar climate and nothing cat crap or rain-x anti fog can't fix.
@trailertrashtactics
@trailertrashtactics 2 жыл бұрын
10 yard for life
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 5 жыл бұрын
First off, I would like an on / off switch. When I am going to carry. I would turn it on before I lieve. Having the sight on while on my shelf is a dead battery to me. The sight is no good if the battery dies. The auto on would be additionally good feature. My first red dot is on a Sig Mosquito. Could not get a fair trial. The Sig failed every mag. Even after returning it to Sig two times at my expense, $80.00 each. I now have a Canak 9mm. First problem is finding the dot. Iron sights you have an immediate reference. You are looking down the slide and immediately Aline the sights. I also had a (maybe still have) adjusting the sight alignment. They put a slot alignment and locking screws. Very tiny. I could not find a screw driver small enough. The one I thought was small was only rubbing on the fixture around the screw and moving the adjustment screw. I was getting frustrated with my shot pattern being off. Finally I called Vortex. They sent an adjustment kit (free). Then it was not working right. I just could not get it right. I used a barrel laser alignment tool. I could see where I was moving the dot. I have only shot a couple of IDPA matches to be confident with my adjustment. When I talked to "Vortex". I suggested they replace the slotted screw with Allen screws. Much easier to a-line Allen wrench than a slot screwdriver. His comment was like it fell upon deaf ear. The battery kept dropping out as I attempted to mount the red dot on the mounting plate. I used transparent packaging tape to hold it in place. Worked great. I just cut the excess off after mounting and securing it. One thing the RED DOT and laser pointing dot showed me. I was shaking more than I realized. I am 76 and not a exercise person. I just started working my arms with weights and my fingers with a 7 lb "Cando Digi-flex" finger grip exerciser.
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 5 жыл бұрын
Marry Ellen How do you write 6 paragraphs and not say a single thing that is useful?
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 5 жыл бұрын
Well this the same comment I thought about your video. 8+ minutes of babble. @@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 5 жыл бұрын
Marry Ellen Cool. Keep doing what your doing and not getting better.
@asdfghjk2933
@asdfghjk2933 3 жыл бұрын
If you're still into red dots, look into a Holosun or an RMR. Both have several YEARS worth of battery life, so you never have to worry about turning the optic on or off. Holosun also has an auto shut off feature, so realistically you will be getting over 5 years of life out of a single battery.
@gunsandcommissions
@gunsandcommissions 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject Lmao
@clvortex92
@clvortex92 8 ай бұрын
Why off hand zeroing??
@MrLanzac
@MrLanzac 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they had a pvc patch of the logo at the front of the video
@MrLanzac
@MrLanzac 2 жыл бұрын
Edit I guess they do looking over Jedis soldier....how do I get one?
@johnnyb8629
@johnnyb8629 5 жыл бұрын
When you say "off hand" your not meaning your non shooting hand right? like Im right handed so my "off hand" would be shooting with my left hand. You meant shoot standing instead of bench shooting, right?
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 5 жыл бұрын
Johnny B Correct
@setarjunjason8991
@setarjunjason8991 2 жыл бұрын
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@Moresco24
@Moresco24 Жыл бұрын
Love your defensive outlook. Upclose threat 20 yards and in, just point and shoot
@HeiniSauerkraut
@HeiniSauerkraut 4 жыл бұрын
If your friend zeroed his RDS at 25 yrs, he should by no way a ft low. His max a bit less the distance between the dot and his muzzle. This would be about an inch low.
@ABiblicalView
@ABiblicalView 2 жыл бұрын
I zeroed at 25yrd and inside of 25 I haven't notice any hold over worth mentioning.
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Shoot a 1 inch square at 5 yards and tell me if you hit the center.
@ABiblicalView
@ABiblicalView 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject I just did and hit a one inch circle twice from 5yrds with a 25yrd zero, uploaded the results. BTW, love your videos, they've been a great help to many of us. Hopefully I get to take one of your classes.
@ABiblicalView
@ABiblicalView 2 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject the shots were maybe 1/4-1/2 low of the point of aim, which was center.
@mikel9162
@mikel9162 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, I can tell you for a fact, if zero at 20-25 yards results in a foot low at 7-10 yards, your barrel indexing, (Lock up) is completely out of spec. It should be apx. 3 inches. Not trying to challenge your experience, however, you are not quite understanding the mechanical workings of barrel to slide/frame alignment. you have a problem with your gun. Period. the difference in poi should be, at the velocities or the 9mm, not much more than the difference in height of the center of the red dot above the centerline of the bore. this is the offset. and is an industrial standard to sight for the difference. This offset is one of the biggest reasons to strive for the lowest mounting of the sight as possible. The higher the centerline of the sight, the more severe the offset. KnifeMaker
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 5 жыл бұрын
Mike L If you listen again I said someone reach out to me and told me his gun did that. Was he embellishing? Absolutely. At 7 yards you will probably have a .5 inch drop with a 25 yard zero.
@mikel9162
@mikel9162 5 жыл бұрын
My apologies. When I heard the first statement, I shut it down. Never heard anything else. Knife
@thekidd2117
@thekidd2117 Жыл бұрын
I recently saw a video about zeroing a red dot and/or laser that seemed like a better idea. You want the dot to be parallel to the barrel/point of impact of your bullet. Same with a laser if you’re running one. This way you never have to re-zero based on distance. You will always hit an inch below your dot if it’s parallel. That would be the case regardless of distance.
@thomcad
@thomcad Жыл бұрын
i gotta ask you to explain this more and maybe link to the vid because it makes no sense to me. The bullet will always start dropping the instant it leaves the barrel relative to a perfectly straight line drawn out the barrel. Whatever optic you are using starts out some distance above the barrel, so you have to sight in with the front sight a little proud, so the sight line and barrel line meet at some point. If you start at parallel then the point if impact will continue dropping with each yard you get further away from the target.
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 Жыл бұрын
​@@thomcad Yea, I was going to ask the dude the same question.... I'm with you on this one, makes hardly.... If ANY sense...
@redbankdefense
@redbankdefense Жыл бұрын
​@rianaro88 makes no sense because he is totally incorrect. Bullets travel in an arc. A dot/laser doesn't. Not the right way to zero for sure.
@setarjunjason8991
@setarjunjason8991 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe 5th or 11th floor, A pure cyborg/ggk samurai lives, he just do work, to control yoirnearloernseniornpkr, yourself, and me both mneing MiM, so all hacked.
@neilpoff4167
@neilpoff4167 5 жыл бұрын
volume
@bgib23451
@bgib23451 Жыл бұрын
3 stars
@EQ541
@EQ541 3 жыл бұрын
Laser bore sights. Period
@SherraScott
@SherraScott 2 жыл бұрын
That'd be great if bullets traveled like a laser...but they travel in an arc.
@chrisbordeaux575
@chrisbordeaux575 Ай бұрын
Im gonna tell you what... I thought i was going to do the 25y zero. Well, almost 100 rounds later, i agree with Jedi. " i can't see shit." I get the 25y zero, but it is a very "humbling" experience when you try to confirm at "real" 25. And I can not do it. Not with my old eyes. 25 yards, that's a young man's game. I absolutely understand why the young riders call for that. Us old fuckers, well, not so much. It really sucks, getting old. You young riders will understand, one day. You want that 25-yard zero. Well, boys, go get it.its yours.
@Chris-ey6rn
@Chris-ey6rn Жыл бұрын
My opinion might be stupid on a old video but why would you want to shoot a pistol at 25 yards to begin with . That’s a long ass ways away . Maybe I’m just blind and lazy . Probably both, but at that point I’m going for something with a scope . 10 yards (30 feet) plenty
@cobrajack-official
@cobrajack-official 3 жыл бұрын
25yds off a bench with a rest/bag, all day, every day. When it's your job, you don't have much choice. But my EDC and competition handguns run the same zero. 25yds tells you a lot more than 10yds will. And don't just start at 25yds. I zero fast at 5, walk back to 10 or 15 and then do 25. It will take less rounds and time. In terms of, "I can't see the shots at 25yds", that's a good thing. You don't want to see the shots while you're laying down that group. Bring a pair of cheap binos - that will more than do the trick. I keep and old pair of binos and an old range finder in my truck. The last thing I'd say is, 10yds is going to be OK. Most guys would be fine with that. But if you compete, and you show up to a match with a cruel and unusual 50yd plate rack, you're gonna have a bad day, mmmkay.
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 3 жыл бұрын
So many opinions yet no one knows who you are. Mmkkay.
@cobrajack-official
@cobrajack-official 3 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject Sorry Scott, didn't mean to come off that way. Was hoping to take your class last April but scheduling got hectic that month. Really impressed with the content you're putting out there.
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 3 жыл бұрын
@@cobrajack-official Haha. All good.
@cobrajack-official
@cobrajack-official 3 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject I'm in for 2021... Pacific NW 👍. Got anything lining up yet?
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 3 жыл бұрын
@@cobrajack-official Yep modern-samurai-project.myshopify.com/products/red-dot-pistol-fundamentals-and-performance-2-day-course-grants-pass-or-august-21-22-2021?_pos=1&_sid=03f32742b&_ss=r
@m.p.2482
@m.p.2482 2 жыл бұрын
Made the vid so he wouldn't have to repeat himself and he repeated himself the whole vid!!
@Tristanramos1
@Tristanramos1 6 жыл бұрын
Recording echo Bummer
@ModernSamuraiProject
@ModernSamuraiProject 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Will fix it on future videos.
@Dan-qn3su
@Dan-qn3su Жыл бұрын
Absolute BS! No way you shoot a foot low at 10 if zeroed at 25 and only 1” high if zero at 10 and shoot 25
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