The evolution of shooting is still continuing thanks to trainers like Scott. This is just another reason why I need to take classes from you. Thanks for all you do.
@millerbrosmediaoffgridflyf77673 жыл бұрын
I feel like I should have paid a $20 tip for that 9 minutes of knowledge, Definitely need to take a class soon!
@thomasgibbs36563 жыл бұрын
Right I feel bad over the years for watching all Scott’s knowledgeable videos it feels like I should’ve paid I feel like a cheap dirty bastard lol
@brandonfenley45123 жыл бұрын
He knows what he’s doing, I’m inbound for my second class… lemme tell ya it’s not all on video.
@brandonmugele22243 жыл бұрын
I just learned about him and looked into his classes. 75% of all 2022 is already booked. They go fast.
@douglassalley91172 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmugele2224 I just checked out the same schedule, I found an event close to me in Oct. 11-12th. I'm going to try and make that one. It will be my first "professional instructor class.
@heelrod2 жыл бұрын
@@douglassalley9117 Just finished my second class with him in El Paso. It is an intense 3 day course and you learn so much it is insane! You'll love it
@stovepipe89663 жыл бұрын
As a competition shooter , the only time I take note of the reset on my pistol is on very long shots or when shooting strong or weak hand only. In any other high speed scenario , I’m relying on my grip and slapping away !
@Realandrewmccall2 жыл бұрын
This is the way!
@GodGunsGills Жыл бұрын
FACTS!!!
@richstone26277 ай бұрын
There is no weak hand.
@defenderofpoodles5606 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always felt that shooting from the reset is useless. No one in a real gunfight is going to have the presence of mind to work from a tactile or audible reset- we’re going to slap the shit out of the trigger. We might as well train to that reality. Thank you for demonstrating this.
@mattreed52912 жыл бұрын
Banging on the trigger, like it was his sister 🤣🤣☠️ I love the way he explains things 👍 I’m glad I found this channel
@basser9133 жыл бұрын
I really need to take your classes. I am still a new shooter. Your videos have opened my eyes. They are the only ones that don't put me to sleep while watching them.
@cherryswole Жыл бұрын
This info is greatly appreciated! Thank you for sharing the logic behind it as well as the demonstration. Going out to the range to try this asap!!
@APDECHO23 жыл бұрын
I love watching the POI continue to evolve.
@thebronzetoo3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to watch this video again, but while wearing electric muffs, so I can try to hear what's being said!!
@mr.channel64677 ай бұрын
They are at a gun range. What the hell do you expect?
@bigDrob6 ай бұрын
@@mr.channel6467 Probably expected the comment not to be taken seriously, and have someone's fee fee all sore and make that response, obviously it's a joke.
@JonathanFord-yx6nh Жыл бұрын
i used to train marines to shoot as a range PMI in okinawa japan, i must say this is very interesting concept and 100% right, this a great combat/marksmanship training that you guys are bestowing. good work gentlemen.
@ROSS47122 жыл бұрын
100% correct. We quit pinning the trigger and teaching that technique around 2001/2002 but folks are still teaching that technique and performing it.
@johnherian7813 жыл бұрын
Once you break the first shot. The gun has to recoil.Use this time to get off the trigger then as sights settle back on target you should have the trigger prepped and ready to break the next round. Let recoil be your friend. Prep,press like a butterfly.
@questionmarkproductions766 Жыл бұрын
Like Scott said, resetting the trigger is waste of time. I just finished a two day MSP course with AJ Zito in CA and taught this technique. Out standing course and well worth the price. 👍🏻👍🏻
@SpecialK04792 жыл бұрын
Best illustration of this concept that I have seen. Thanks.
@tonyn1529 күн бұрын
This is good information. Going to try it at the range the next time I'd there.
@thebronzetoo3 жыл бұрын
I took JJ's HSM class yesterday and taking Scott's class in Sep. Can't wait!!
@blackwolf223033 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid! 100% agree. I’m new to firearms and I had to learn this after learning how other ways didn’t work for the grip I needed with a micro compact. I didn’t realize how important the support hand can be in freeing that trigger finger.
@marcomartin9125 Жыл бұрын
Why are people scared of change more shooting more knowledge? This was great. And under pressure, I would always forget the reset because I was trying to shoot fast and thought I was doing something wrong. 💯 it just fees more natural, thank guys....
@pcs35763 жыл бұрын
Amen!!!!!! Pinning drives me nuts and trying to un-teach it is so much unnecessary work. Well said Scott.
@cliffarnold74632 жыл бұрын
Was taught to pin in all the formal classes I ever took. Have been trying to break the habit and hope to take a MSP class soon.
@Northman8710 ай бұрын
The drill at the end is gold.
@Liftrunshoot727 Жыл бұрын
This is the truth. I’ve been shooting 15 years as a hobby, in local competitions and 6 years on SWAT. Took a handgun class with JJ and in 8 hours became a substantially faster shooter with this trigger technique, it was like a lightbulb went off. You think you’re good till you shoot with guys of this caliber.
@andrewkenseth48143 жыл бұрын
I am trying to unlearn this after shooting this way since 2003 in my LE career. It is very difficult to unlearn so far.
@TrevorSpencer3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic knowledge drop. Slaying sacred cows.
@Lucas12v2 жыл бұрын
I used the pinning technique when i was first learning to shoot to help me overcome recoil anticipation. I'm not sure why but for some reason, focusing on pinning the trigger helped me to stay steady through the trigger break. I pretty much stopped doing it after i got over the anticipation problem but I still do it when I'm trying to shoot very precisely at long range. I also do it with precision rifles. Maybe i should stop but if I'm shooting 100 yards with a handgun or several hundred with a rifle, I'm not really worried about speed. I'm not saying my way is correct though because I'm no expert and don't claim to be.
@toddcollett1063 жыл бұрын
“Do it again but don’t be so slow” 😂
@findmurdock3 жыл бұрын
The bullet travels in the direction of whatever the muzzle is pointing at as you break the shot. Slapping/jerking the trigger will often times cause undesired movement in the gun. Solution: establish a firm enough (and sufficiently angled) support hand grip, so that it'll handle any violent trigger pull.
@victor7703 жыл бұрын
Saw this concept on Warrior Poet, John's "Off/On" commands when teaching it stick in my head. Really cool to see it applied with a shot timer here as further proof that is better. Now to practice forgetting the way I was taught with that reset and teaching my support hand to stop being such a bitch.
@Libertarian_Neighbor3 жыл бұрын
Be careful. The downside of this method is accidental discharges while learning, especially on guns with light triggers.
@swiftaudi3 жыл бұрын
@@Libertarian_Neighbor you ain’t kidding but mastering this could lower splits.
@victor7703 жыл бұрын
@@Libertarian_Neighbor True, I've been dry firing mostly, its taking a while to break the old habits. Both have their limitations, the way I was originally taught, I have pulled the trigger too fast; it didn't actually reset and ended up NOT firing.
@jamesmanning87953 жыл бұрын
@@Libertarian_Neighbor yup so make sure to do it on the range and have plenty of ad's with it so you can learn exactly where the line is.
@carterthiessen26642 жыл бұрын
@@Libertarian_Neighbor I agree, but it's a training problem. Once you train enough it goes away. I find when I switch pistols it happens the odd time for the first few times out, however it really isn't the worst problem. The decision to fire had already been made, and if your grip and stance is proper, that extra shot will probably hit right next to your first one. When I got my cz shadow, I had tons of "doubles" because the single action is so light. I'd find 9 times out of 10 that the 2nd "accidental" shot was a charlie or alpha hit, and very rarely would it miss the target within 15 yards.
@fnjay243 жыл бұрын
You are my everything ♥ lol can't wait for the Michigan class
@biggunshandguns36873 жыл бұрын
Um ok that made me a wee bit uno for table. Haha just kidding for those that don't. Understand sarcasm
@BeauBrewer5.563 жыл бұрын
100% agree. At the indoor range I can hear clicks next to me when people are shooting but their accuracy still suffers greatly at 5 yards because their support hand grip is shit so even the less trigger travel of pressing at the reset can’t save them. Not to mention I think some focus so much on hearing the click they loose their sight picture trying to hear it.
@infidel24 Жыл бұрын
On my glock 17(polymer 80) i have the trigger set up to the point that it basically resets at the wall. There may be 1/32" of play in it. And the rest is amazingly audible. Not that that matters in a gunfight. But, I don't carry this gun because the trigger breaks at just a tad over 3 pounds. For myself, i want my carry gun to be 4 to 6 pounds for the break. The only other gun that i own that comes close to the way i have the 17 set up is my PDP and PPQ. But they are factory triggers. The most I'll do to a factory trigger is maybe a little polishing. But on the Walther's, i don't feel the need to do anything to them.
@e7tegt5033 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Totally agree. I can personally attest to the support hand thing. Most guns I lose grip every couple shots and have to reset my support hand grip. I’m sure its my lack of training. I can get a fucking death grip with my support hand on the pdp, vp9 and p320. Even though all three have high bore axis I shoot them faster and more accurately than other pistols. No doubt because of the good support hand grip. Thanks for the great video.
@westtexas30413 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the outstanding video. I need to stop pinning the trigger.
@glennnewell27862 жыл бұрын
Wow great info . Thanks for your time
@Rmrk12342 жыл бұрын
I have such a terrible habit I need to train out of me. My habit is now reset/pressing which makes quick follow up shots high and low.
@zaynemikita68973 жыл бұрын
So if people can watch this video and still think pinning the trigger is more efficient or better then they can not be reached. Lead a horse to water, cant make it drink.
@Libertarian_Neighbor3 жыл бұрын
It’s better, but not for brand new shooters. Very easy to accidentally cook off a few rounds with this method. Takes training to be safe.
@biggunshandguns36873 жыл бұрын
Everyone is different brotha I'm sure there are some that it works for them
@yungshootasmokedope694202 жыл бұрын
@@Libertarian_Neighbor im 15 and have been shooting for almost a year. It took me like 50 rounds to learn immediate reset. And you’re right like 3 times i accidentally cooked off another round but it’s not a problem if you can control recoil. you’re right it’s definitely not the first thing i would teach someone.
@beansbeansbeans40253 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to train with him again!
@langechrisc3 жыл бұрын
Good info. Scott, where did you find that shirt though? It’s awesome!
@ModernSamuraiProject3 жыл бұрын
Its from Viktos
@scottcarter9975 Жыл бұрын
It sounds effective if I could understand it. Best I can tell, grip hard with support hand then go ahead and slap. Is that it?
@diegoted Жыл бұрын
on the prep ,is dry firing the way to develope the sence of being right at the wall? I can and do prep somewhere between the click and the wall becasue I have fired off a round pulling around to determine where my wall is? Great info thx Ted
@noelparedes58543 жыл бұрын
Great debunk!
@Whitpusmc Жыл бұрын
I had not heard of the advice to pin and reset, though I’d heard that if you slap the trigger you must be able to hold the pistol very steady or your accuracy would suffer. I”ve heard the pin and reset on rifle marksmanship but I assume that was to not disturb the shot which could be still exciting the muzzle. Or is that BS as well?
@herknorth86913 жыл бұрын
At competitions, if I'm missing difficult shots with my pistol, I slow down and revert to pinning and it seems to work. Lots of trainers out there are now denouncing pinning so I guess it's time to get to another class (I haven't taken one in over 3 years) and learn why what I'm doing is obsolete.
@FactsOVERfeelings20242 жыл бұрын
I don't think your technique is wrong bro. I think there are different techniques for different competitions. I compete in tactical games and I'm not that great at it BUT, the goal is to bullseye shoot at distance with a high heart. NO WAY would I be slapping the trigger or not working my resest. Different competitions need different techniques
@mikkxfit2 жыл бұрын
Amazing info, as always, but my goodness this video needed a mic.
@Dr.Gameboy3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was originally taught the pin and reset for rifle shooting because I was told it helped to stabilize the longer barreled weapon…aka, as the bullet travels down the barrel the potential movement of the trigger resetting quickly could move it slightly/enough that at 100+ yards it comes into play. Thoughts?
@southernpartisan17723 жыл бұрын
Your finger isn't that fast. No way on earth you will affect the trajectory of a fired round by resetting the trigger before it clears the muzzle.
@Dr.Gameboy3 жыл бұрын
@@southernpartisan1772 it was more the uncontrolled movement of the trigger and the associated hand. Instead of a squeeze and pin, some people’s exaggerated movements or flinching when firing could have a potential effect. It’s a sloppy movement improvement tactic for beginners.
@onpsxmember3 жыл бұрын
PRS guys try to freeze, to not move the finger at all when the shot breaks and then they keep watching to get info from the shot instead of ejecting the brass as quickly as possible. It all depends on the context what matters. In some disciplines dropping in percentage slightly can cost you the whole season and consistent wins make the championship. In olympic pistol and rifle shooting most got triggers that are highly adjustable exactly how they like it with pre-travel, resistance balance within the 'wall' (like 75-90% at the start and bit at the end for example) or some want certain overtravel others want none while it's often almost impossible to see movement while it's pressed. Does it matter at 5-15 yards shooting at substantially large area in rapid succession? Making up time when a your score is better when you're faster and still having some C's on said large target is fine. If you have to keep every shot in the size of a coin at 25 or 50m and you got the time to shoot in your zen moment between heartbeats it may make all the difference. Imo, different techniques for different distances and circumstances. In a situation forced upon you to react while your heart tries to attack you it's helpful to mitigate as much as possible of what the trigger finger might screw up and you need more hits on target. All fast shooting diminishes accurate shooting skills to some degree. One has to dedicate some time to keep it.
@BenyaminMentchale Жыл бұрын
Very interesting....
@M4CARBINE556 Жыл бұрын
This goes against everything I’ve ever been taught. So for speed you just slap the trigger and maintain accuracy with a solid support hand grip? And for more precise shots, you prep the trigger before firing?
@ModernSamuraiProject Жыл бұрын
Yep
@labinotberisha3103 жыл бұрын
I have sig 226 tacops with srt trigger did make mistake I bought it It was cheaper sig sp2022 long trigger reset
@billf9847 Жыл бұрын
Can anybody give me direction or a link to his class on support hand grip he mentions this a lot or a few times in this video support hand grip. Just want to refresh anybody have a link or or I can find that.
@NickJonesFilms3 жыл бұрын
What about the accuracy on the "slap" method with 3-5 rounds
@GIO_RUBBLE3 жыл бұрын
jedi gold thanks so much for the nuggets!
@insansombolinggi82753 жыл бұрын
I plan on attending his red dot class in July. For those of you here have been to his class. What brand ammo did you bring to his class? The instructions says to bring 1000 rounds of reliable ammo. Is Tul Ammo reliable? Lol
@ModernSamuraiProject3 жыл бұрын
You’re fine with that if your gun can run it.
@insansombolinggi82753 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject thank you Scott! I will see you in July.
@Warren_o.g19872 жыл бұрын
Did you go
@rebelpatriot_nc_91562 жыл бұрын
I was just telling a buddy that if he adhered to a fast cadence of 4+ rounds, he'd never "click-bang".
@bobbyraejohnson5 ай бұрын
No but you could feel it.
@mainnerd22222 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a hard habit to break.
@BrandensOutdoorChannel4 ай бұрын
People pin the trigger because during most basic pistol classes they do a lot of dry fire with manual cycling of the gun before live fire. They want the student to keep the finger in contact with ths trigger shoe at all times even after the gun fires in prep for the next shot. Pinning demonstrates approximately how much travel is needed before the next shot can break. It's just for demonstration purposes but becomes a bad habit for a lot of people (Hegshot86's wife pins the trigger every shot). I've been through LAPD/LASD/and FLETC over the past 15 years and have seen why people pin the trigger. The trigger should always be reset during recoil and as sight picture returns, ready to fire again. With live fire it's hard to see what the student is actually doing with reset.
@MaximusEffort3 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for the ACRO P2 review you promised us lol
@Slimmerman2233 жыл бұрын
I kept trying to turn down the shots in the background. Headphones can have their downsides lol
@DataGeek9032 жыл бұрын
Dan horner said this. Grip matters. U should be able to slap the trigger with a dowel if your grip is right it'll shoot straight
@cornydad2 жыл бұрын
There should be a donate link to educational videos like this
@biker19583 жыл бұрын
Good video, hard to hear
@biggunshandguns36873 жыл бұрын
I break the first shot and as the recoil takes the gun me back to the next target I'm going back to the reset so that as soon as my sights are on I break the shot does that mean I'm doing it wrong?
@point1tactics3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼 yep
@billtaylor1656 Жыл бұрын
How do I take classes?
@ModernSamuraiProject Жыл бұрын
www.modernsamuraiproject.com/shop
@vmanshooting3 жыл бұрын
so many LEO/MIL pin the trigger, it's annoying. What's more annoying is when they tell me that I need to do it too
@bgarza55063 жыл бұрын
Tell them to stop shooting in the background, Jedi dropping knowledge…funny when he said down range I said down range
@jeremythomas30643 жыл бұрын
I do that all the time with Jedi when he asks rhetorical questions. I'll verbally recite exactly what he's about to say. Love it.
@jimmorrison3062 жыл бұрын
Heard TGO say in a video that everyone slaps that trigger when they are going fast. Everyone’s finger leaves the face of the trigger. Learn to slap that trigger without disturbing anything too badly.
@MichaelLeopold12 жыл бұрын
Mind blown
@DropShotPete3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@BoomBoomsWoodshop3 жыл бұрын
HOLY FUCK STICKS!! Thank you!
@jimziogas89783 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’ve wasted my life
@e7tegt5033 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@musicman1eanda3 жыл бұрын
Learning is good.
@thewatcher6112 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else want to barf when they see "guntubers" doing this click bang BS? I almost never finish watching videos from that outlaw guy, or IV8888...... Thanks for teaching everyone the correct use of a trigger. Especially how when the trigger is pinned, your gun is useless.
@jeffe53673 жыл бұрын
BOOM
@calebgray62323 ай бұрын
I think this is an interesting conversation but it really depends on the style of shooting you'll be doing. If you're combat/defensive shooting, this is no good. Everything needs to be deliberate and controlled and decisive. Speed is not everything. I'd like to see you back this up to 10 and 25 and 50 yards and do it again but with follow up shots. At speed, slapping it like that is going to lead to spraying. Spraying is ineffective. Pinning it to the back helps you to eat recoil and you reset the trigger as soon as you're back on target (thus the demonstration starting at 6:30 is useless because the trigger won't be pinned if you're on target, it'll be prepped). It's called trigger control - control is in the name. Slapping is not controlling it.
@ModernSamuraiProject3 ай бұрын
@@calebgray6232 Trigger manipulation is based on the difficulty of target. If you are using pinning to manage recoil, then you need to get to work on your grip. If you are prepping at 3 yards on a full size target you are wasting time. If you are pinning at any distance you are wasting time. Speed IS everything when coupled with appropriate accuracy.
@calebgray62323 ай бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject You know what, I'm new around here and now that I'm looking through the channel and seeing more of your content, I can see the context is very different from where my POV is coming from. That said, I think once a shooter has proper fundamentals and is gaining speed, then at speed pin and reset will look very similar to the technique outlined here. Except instead of moving your finger all the way off the trigger to the point of there being space, it will go to the reset and reprep for the shot. Automaticity through training will bring speed, and at speed that will happen in one fluid motion and be as quick or quicker than slapping the trigger while retaining more control. Pinning and resetting is perfectly quick at 3 yards because the reset depends on the sight alignment which depends on the recoil which at 3 yards will take an IPSC headshot to an IPSC forehead shot. Thus the reset impulse can and should be as quick as the gun's actual recoil and realignment impulse. Perfectly quick at 3 yards and perfectly adaptable for longer distances. I love the discussion, and I'd really like to see proper fast pin and reset go head to head with slapping at distance and speed with follow-up shots and accuracy comparisons, because I still think the demonstration at 6:30 doesn't do pin and reset justice
@jordanyang30662 жыл бұрын
Dang time to unfuck my training scars.
@Three60Crusader2 жыл бұрын
Can’t hear him half the time 😂
@ColtCommander453 жыл бұрын
Good training advice here. I would suggest that you not ask the students that are there to learn, to answer questions that they are just guessing at. It brings nothing to the training experience.
@ModernSamuraiProject3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. You are incorrect though. It reminds them of how and why they were introduced to a concept. The premises behind the concept and why the concepts are inefficient.
@pulpheroaudio87092 жыл бұрын
I don’t think this guy is the best trainer for beginners. He’s more of a re-trainer. He retrains already experience shooters. New shouters wouldn’t understand half of what he’s talking about.
@ModernSamuraiProject2 жыл бұрын
It’s a good thing no one cares what you think.
@Warren_o.g19872 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject 😂😂😂😂 truth
@Libertarian_Neighbor3 жыл бұрын
Having used both methods I believe the latter to be better, but it requires more training. Invariably, when I teach someone to prep during recoil they have an AD. I increased my pull weight on my carry guns after training with the new method. Anyone who has been in a stressful situation understands that a firm wall is your friend.
@APDECHO23 жыл бұрын
If you haven't made the conscious decision to shoot why is your finger anywhere near the trigger?
@Libertarian_Neighbor3 жыл бұрын
@@APDECHO2 This whole video is about follow up shots. And I’m talking about accidental (negligent) second shots. It’s not good to send negligent discharges down range immediately after your first shot. The finger is on the trigger because you already shot.
@Libertarian_Neighbor3 жыл бұрын
@@APDECHO2 I’ve only been in one stressful situation when my dog was attacked by a mountain Lion. The adrenaline dump made me near useless and the heavier wall is better in such situations. It’s very easy to panic and break the trigger too soon, either on the first shot or follow up shots.
@snyderman33722 жыл бұрын
The pin time was longer because he had to let it out then back in but the slap he just had him pull straight back so for the slap he should’ve started in the same position which was all the way pulled back. I still think slapping is faster but the experiment/demo was very biased
@ModernSamuraiProject2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. The start position is where your trigger finger would when the slide is perceived to be back in battery. When pinning it is pinned to the rear. When slapping it is slightly off the trigger. When prepped, it is on the trigger at the wall.
@jimkelly43662 жыл бұрын
You know what would help....... nobody shooting while you are talking........
@AlphaTangoSierra3 жыл бұрын
Voice issue 😐
@K-bob_453 жыл бұрын
Give someone a LEM trigger. If they are pinning instead of prepping it will be very apparent. I shoot LEM and still bang out accurate 0.18-0.20 splits due to properly prepping the trigger. Reset is the most overrated feature on a semi automatic handgun
@bulleit94593 жыл бұрын
The lem trigger is the worst trigger on a semi automatic handgun..
@K-bob_453 жыл бұрын
@@bulleit9459 and I’m still fast and accurate with it. Must not be that bad
@bulleit94593 жыл бұрын
@@K-bob_45 sure, if you put in the time you can be fast and accurate with a hi point.
@K-bob_453 жыл бұрын
@@bulleit9459 mmmm. Idk about that. Maybe you could get fast but idk about accurate. Point being if you aren’t Rob Leatham or you aren’t shooting at the bianchi cup your trigger isn’t what’s holding you back.
@bulleit94593 жыл бұрын
@@K-bob_45 sure you can. Kyle Busch can drive a Prius around the track better than most people that can drive. But how much better is he going to be in his nascar. My ex was a border patrol agent and was issued the HK P2000 with LEM trigger. I’m a master class uspsa and idpa shooter in multiple divisions. Could I shoot the LEM? Yes, but I personally think it sucks. Now granted thats also my opinion. Although I know many top tier shooters that agree with me. A crisp clean break on the lighter side is the preferred trigger. Whether it be for fighting or competition. The LEM, yeah it was smooth, but I just couldn’t stand that stacking with no pronounced wall. I don’t know your skill level but if you’re doing well with it who am i to tell you different? But better gear allows the shooter to express his skill to a higher level.
@JohnDoeEagle1 Жыл бұрын
The whole concept of shooting off the reset is flawed and garbage. How will that be useful while shooting a DA/SA revolver or DA/SA semi-auto? The only thing it works on are single action semi-autos and modern striker fired pistols. It's a bunch of crap and mallninja kung fu!
@ModernSamuraiProject Жыл бұрын
Look up Jerry Miculek on revolvers and Ernest Langdon and JJ Racaza for Beretta 92s. Then pick up a newspaper and realize it’s 2023.
@JohnDoeEagle1 Жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject It doesn't matter that is 2023. I have been shooting like this since 1982 and won't be changing anytime soon. Do you always have to tell Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Eddie Van Halen they are doing it wrong and need to change? It's not likely to happen anytime soon son!
@JohnDoeEagle1 Жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject Massad Ayoob and Lt. John McLane...ever hear of them before?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqTHmoNjgpqCbsk kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2jWnXSsnb-biNk I have shot handguns like this for 41 years and counting. I cannot use or adapt the modern thumbs forward grip ever so popular today used by newer shooters. In theory this is the proper way to hold a handgun. Your thumb isn't hitting the slide stop causing a failure to lock the slide to the rear o n the final shot. Your thumbs are nowhere near the slide slowing the cycle speed down causing self inflicted malfunctions. You won't accidentally hit the magazine release and drop a magazine. You won't make contact with any decocker levers. Almost ALWAYS you will have superior accuracy and be much more accurate using this hold compared to the "kung fu" modern thumbs forward grip. This is the way I was taught to shoot when I first started and until around the year 2005ish never knew or saw any different. My background also leads to shooting paper and measuring group size at distances over 10 yards and most often at distances of 15 - 20 yards. The thumbs forward grip is ok if you are ringing steel but stinks on pinpoint accuracy on paper. Usually the louder and more arrogant the newer shooter is the worse I spank them in the accuracy department each and every time using my grip. The firearm manufacturers had this in mind when they designed the handguns. See also the serrated notch on the front of the trigger guard? You aren't very bright to circumvent it using a hold that was never intended to be used in the first place. It reminds me of using your left foot to depress the accelerator in a vehicle even though the right foot is more intuitive and accurate!
@sambenge91402 жыл бұрын
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@grappler2403 жыл бұрын
I'm not defending anything here.. but WHO cannot be fast and accurate at THAT range?! Seriously. Maybe post a vid at 15 yards and show the same series of shots against that timer and check THAT accuracy. My blind grandma can hit at 4 yards with a domino flung from her house shoe.
@joeld0083 жыл бұрын
You'remissing the point. This isolating and comparing techniques, not testing skills. He's limiting variables. If he did the drill at a bigger distance other things like over confirming sights can come into play.
@REK-mo7xn3 жыл бұрын
@@joeld008 Well said Joel. One of the things I loved about his class was how he demonstrated skills at multiple speeds and distances as he taught each evolution. “OK, this is going to be 90-10 at ten yards, middle box, under one second from the holster.“ “Beep, bang, .91” R Stephens check out the MSP Black Belt Standards if you want more information on the accuracy and speed standards that Jedi pushes and guides his students to attain.
@chaoticcaninejb3 жыл бұрын
Show a video of your blind grandma shooting at that distance that accurate then maybe I will listen, maybe...
@deathpunish23 жыл бұрын
For someone talking about accuracy, you sure missed the point.
@ModernSamuraiProject3 жыл бұрын
If this were true then Dot Torture would not take as many souls as it does at 3 yards.
@devongrey41353 жыл бұрын
Isaac Newton would like a word with you.
@ModernSamuraiProject3 жыл бұрын
Oh here it comes. Some half ass application of physics without provable metrics. Go ahead man. Fire away. Be warned though just had a Physicist come to my class and he said the concepts are perfectly in line with Newtons 1st and 3 rd laws.
@misplaced_hoosier3 жыл бұрын
I'm real curious what Newton would have to say. Please pass along his message Devon.
@devongrey41352 жыл бұрын
@@ModernSamuraiProject My apologies for the delayed response. KZbin doesn't notify me when people reply, and I have no idea why. I no longer remember why I couched my objection in terms of physics, but I do remember the gist of my objection. It's your test at around the 7 minute mark. You're racing one movement against two, when in the real world, you still have to make both movements. Regardless of whether you are releasing just to the reset, or slapping the trigger, or anything in between, you still have to come off the trigger, which takes time. A PROPER test would be racing "pin the trigger, then at the buzzer, release to the reset and then fire" VS "pin the trigger, then at the buzzer, release all the way and then fire". I don't know which way the test would go... releasing to the reset is a shorter movement, but precise movements are often slower than gross movements. The point I am making, however, is not about which is better, but that appropriate tests must compare apples to apples.
@rebelpatriot_nc_91562 жыл бұрын
I was just telling a buddy that if he adhered to a fast cadence of 4+ rounds, he'd never "click-bang".