Modular Monthly: Exploring spring reverbs

[@256k_]

the spring reverb box looks like a happy robot's face and the eurorack case is its body. 🤖

[@philipborlin]

Great stuff. I actually have two of them. I integrated the spring tanks in the case. Make sure to use triple-wired RCAs, it will reduce noise alot!

[@krist0sh]

I waited the whole video hoping for you to touch those springs... and you did! Extremely dense and vivid tutorial, love it

[@dysbomb]

after this top vid I added one to my noob setup of only 7 modules and had loads of interference so I swapped the nasty bell wire rca cable from doepfer for a thick gold plated one with magnetic blocks on and it's now as clear as day

[@Jay0neDE]

This is so interesting because it's not trying to emulate a certain type of sound, imitating some instrument or the like. It's sounds that are truly unique.

[@piotr803]

6:18 I'm listening on headphones and I can hear a bit of spring reverb on your voice!!!!! I think you were talking directly at a tank and it might have picked up your voice. LOL Amazing!

[@Tazmanian_Ninja]

Thank you for that Raymond Scott mention - I didn't know about him, nor about his use of spring reverb. His music is amazing! Nor did I know the ARP 2600 had one.

[@AshBashVids]

I just got mine today - brilliant piece of kit!

[@mitchellmartinez4638]

Dude! that is the most bad ass toy I have ever seen. I could play for hours!

[@mitchellmartinez4638]

lol, I think it's funny how kids would be playing with a box figure with some medal twirling bridges that have beads on them. lol, but this is when the children grow up, and the toy does too. lol

[@cgors]

And: A-199 added to cart. Great demo!

[@foggydrifty]

If the quality of modular you collect doesn't say you're serious, those monitors defiantly do. Lol That spring reverb sounds amazing.

[@gerryjamesedwards1227]

You could make your spring tank totally shielded from any of the sources of the hum you described, but you wouldn't be able to wang on them with screwdrivers any more, so it may not be worth it. Assuming the metal case of the spring box is grounded, it's probably meant to be screwed to something made of metal with those tabs, which would be an RF shield in the same way as a grounded metal chassis is. With the springs exposed to act as an antenna, you will pick up a huge amount of electrical noise from your environment, especially in a studio. If you have an oscilloscope it is very easy to get an idea of how much by clipping the ground lead to the probe tip and setting the 'scope to around 10 mV/Div. The ground lead will be acting like a far less efficient antenna than the springs in your open spring box but the noise will be plain enough to see on the 'scope. Even just adding an easy-to-remove metal plate would solve the problem but still allow you access for when you want to sacrifice hum for effects?

[@Phillibos]

your tutorials are so goddamn good man, watching this several times and this doesn't get boring

[@MadelnMachines]

Amazing grimy industrial noises with the filter into the spring.

[@S4V0LAEN3N]

This is the demonstration that I intuitively wanted to see when I did my search.

[@S4V0LAEN3N]

BTW. I just got excited about the idea of doing DIY reverbs, both plate and spiring ones. Instead of multitracking I planned to build that stereo in as feature. By adding two mics to the box. I have to try different size of chambers and propably do many models. Can't wait to see and hear which kind of impact location of mics, measures of chamber and springs, tightness and number of springs, materials used etc. have to the output. :)

[@S4V0LAEN3N]

Ofc! Thanks for that obvious tip. I can do two similar chambers with one mic in each. Works propably much better than one chamber with two mics. Or maybe I should add two mics in both chambers where mic a. is closer to resonator than b. That should give two different versions of the signals. All for then routed to mixer with different balance, EQ and level settings. Feedback could be easily done with AUX send. Yeah. I'm gonna start looking those parts. :D

[@mylarmelodies]

👍

[@oldgoodrandomroutine]

6:54 Sounds straight from Autechre "Move of Ten" album!

[@ChrisBrooker]

Agreed, your videos are outstanding! Unfortunately you are going to put me into a lot of debt...glorious wonderful debt!

[@TheRepublicOfJohn]

if you've got more smarts than burnable cash, you can build a lot of modules from kits or even from scratch!

[@mylarmelodies]

+Christopher Brooker Hah!

[@Edgar_Alvis]

Just letting resonate one spring is a neat little trick. Never tried that one. I guess you could get nice tones by sticking coins or something similar in there.

[@mylarmelodies]

+Ed Mö Learned recently that apparently King Tubby used to do that (restrict some of the tank's springs) - makes it more 'boingy'/'zingy'

[@hazymind8684]

we need more of people like you ! great clean explication

[@johnhorrobin8560]

explanation would be even greater

[@moatl6945]

I was experimenting with this module in conjunction with the Döpfer WASP-filter, today for about an hour. You definitely have to use this filter _after_ the VCA with the ADSR. And: Afterwards my sister had asking me, if I was experimenting with Tibetan Singing Bowls. :D This filter tends to self-oscillation like hell. ^^°

[@murat_buyuk]

Instead of multitracking it, mult the output of the reverb, send one signal thru a short delay to create a haas effekt

[@mantrasoul]

doesn't the spring chamber pick up the vibrations of your speakers that are sitting right next to it? That's yet another feedback patch hehe. But really, doesnt having the springs exposed add feedback tho? And what about low rumbling street noise exciting the springs? Just curious

[@karakson]

Daf... THAT IS AWESOME!!!

[@clxma]

We are building a spring reverb right now :) i can post here again when i'm finished if wanted :) I'll do it anyway. its working already. just needs a nice case

[@kurt8263]

Wealth of knowledge thanks for sharing and jamming!

[@ujtb]

Raymond Scott, what a genius.

[@Bucking_Fastard]

So this is basically how old Doctor Who sound effects were made, haha.

[@mylarmelodies]

Proper TARDIS-arrival territory

[@wilfeatscheese]

The scraping sounds at the start of the theme are Piano strings beings scratched with house keys. Fun fact.

[@toximan2008]

You could make some great dark ambient with one of these! Maybe even several at the same time...

[@cgavin1]

Wow you went from zero to full 1970's Dr Who in under 2 mins.

[@gabordobos2141]

Very good video thank you very much. Can i ask you to explain how did you do the stereo things please? Or i wish to see another video to explain that.

[@CampSpaceship]

Thank you for posting this.

[@cpcompany]

Excellent video. I will have to do some experimenting with the feedback loop.

[@matthewdeward1984]

just grabbed the Morgasmatron and spring reverb Doepfer 199 vntage. Would you Suggest the P.Eg. i see there? also with the Tank where would you put it? is it ok to put out of the box?

[@MartinHughesmidimarty]

Another awesome vid!!! Love spring reverbs!!!!

[@josephwright5140]

As cool as it is i wish it had cv over mix. Am I knit picking?

[@triplebacon1]

so glad you poked and dampened the springs! cool;-)

[@sinsofourfathers]

Would it be a bad idea to buy the doepfer spring to use in a live setting? As in: would it pick up on the vibrations of monitoring and things like that?

[@mylarmelodies]

I've not tried it and dare not - quite probably?!

[@dwightpeters]

Great videos! Thanks!

[@shweetbeat]

Wheres the initial sound coming from? And what is the whole process running through?

[@davidsimons1377]

I've got an A 199 but was wondering about adding a Springray. Do you think it'd be worth it? Only dilemma is I think Intellijel have shot themselves in the foot by removing v c feedback on Springray 2. Do you agree?

[@Annatar3469]

Does the module (not the tank) fit inside a Rackbrute (which isn't a very deep case) with the RCA Phono cables plugged in the back of the module? If not, would it work with L-shaped RCA phono heads?

[@PepijndeVos]

Could you CV the filter and maybe add some noise to trigger it to create a tone that way?

[@mylarmelodies]

Thanks peeps! If you _are_ interested in trying another tank out with the A-199, apparently the Accutronics 4BB3C1B is a good choice - it's got a longer reverb tail. Actually just bought one here and am going to give it a whirl: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360818603092

[@StevenMorris]

+mylarmelodies Always love watching your presentations. I've been wanting to get my hands on a Doepfer spring reverb (or two!) for a while. After watching you mess with the feedback, and hearing that cello-like sound, I'm wondering what kinds of things could be done with Karplus-Strong techniques using bursts of spring noise instead of white noise.

[@SoloStuff]

That was interesting. Would love to hear an ant walking down that spring.

[@j-ltekbrain2177]

I love the feedback path patch!

[@Ferrichrome]

10:53 nice to see someone who is a cellist as well as a synth geek!

[@howardanderson3061]

Great stuff...omg I realize that I have a space echo with reverb. Time for an overhaul and break it out

[@davidwisking6387]

Brilliant video! Can't wait to play around with this little bugger when it's in my rig! The only thing with my tank the springs aren't as taut as yours, is that going to be a problem? Is there a way of tightening them?

[@mylarmelodies]

+David Wisking Did you get the Doepfer one or a different model? Should be fine if it's the Doepfer one, surely!

[@davidwisking6387]

Yeah it's the doepfer! Just waiting on the power supply to arrive and I get to play with the reverberating madness!!!!

[@manateekida1484]

do you actually see the springs moving a litte bit?

[@mylarmelodies]

Yep! You can sort of see them shimmer/vibrate

[@johnshima01]

The Tom Baker years are just one big spring reverb

[@moognificat]

Nice demo!

[@denniboger6581]

Nicely done.

[@GNeuman]

Great hand work! :-)))

[@paultasbeeb]

i like you way of showing

[@mitchellmartinez4638]

Dude! that is way! cool!

[@Computerrorist]

What filter is used after the VCO? Very nice.

[@mylarmelodies]

+Computerrorist That's the Intellijel Atlantis!

[@Lu_x2]

where i can buy this or similar ?

[@supbra1]

This is so cool!!!!

[@Natemasterflex]

14:10 From what I’ve read, the laser sounds/blaster sounds in Star Wars was made by Ben Burtt hitting a rock on a radio tower’s support cables. I’m sure you just being funny. :-)

[@robertgray7853]

The concept is basically the same. The cables would just be a lot tighter!

[@massimookissed1023]

The TARDIS teleporting noise was a large door-key dragged along a low piano string.

[@sueliafonseca2720]

wheres the metasonix R56 ? king of them all

[@tanchwa3740]

are the spring tubes required for the module to work?

[@mylarmelodies]

Yup, of course! They come with it...

[@TheSimonarne]

i kinda want this as a pedal for my bass

[@mr.DorianJames]

I want those tones

[@dopegbesosa]

This is so reminescent of Selected ambient works vol.2 haha

[@uplinkstudio]

Awesome video as per usual but shit now i need a spring reverb

[@LaurentPrugnieres]

Newbie question does it need external power ?

[@johngorgis]

Laurent Prugnieres the tank itself does not ,just the eurorack module

[@LaurentPrugnieres]

John Gorgis thanks

[@themonohub5455]

Absolutely brilliant tutorial, but I just gotta ask, what on earth was that module to the left where the graphics looked like they were just written by hand.

[@mylarmelodies]

+TheMonohub That's my Plague Bearer - DIY module so that panel was totally done by hand!

[@themonohub5455]

+mylarmelodies Thanks! It looks seriously cool. Also be nice to hear or see it in action in one of your videos.

[@carloseberl6949]

BARASS

[@canecreek00]

Great video, think you may of opened my wallet.

[@mrcwalker33]

Ace!

[@RPS3000]

i like the speaker

[@SONICrider]

Again a nice vid combining some knowledge and musical inspiration. Spring and strings (DIY) is what I like to use and in an extension pack for the Koma Fieldkit FX there is a tank :-) Years ago in East Germany I bought a tape "teaching people" the different alarm signals... I counted up string, springs, the tape (recorder out of sight), 2 DIY noise sound sources, a patchblock and the a ARP... resulting in Warnung (using Mackie desk with additional FX = 2 x ZDSP "reverb" and "delay" / 1 send goes out to the Fieldkit FX / main out Fieldkit into Mackie, aux out into Fieldkit FX); maybe you like the set up, sound, vid... Anyway thanks for your modular vids. Cheers, Jurgen aka SONICrider --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4nTaZWuepWCjK8

[@Jefferson-ly5qe]

Comparison starts at 3:30

[@subtitles1492]

the hand gestures in front of the camera are still annoying.

[@mylarmelodies]

I'm so incredibly sorry

[@sauce_aux]

It's easier, sonically/mix wise to work with mono instruments/ audio tracks any who 😎

[@gabrielhaggebrink6700]

Ace.

[@adamvolkinshtein1184]

Sounds like the 80s

[@jahmark9336]

Want, please...

[@VEC7ORlt]

Holy mother of fatness 7:17

[@tyolico8430]

Music Isn't even real

[@EclipseSound]

All i can hear on every video is some saw/sqr tones on this modular things - nothing interesting here.

[@mylarmelodies]

+Eclipse Sound (HIGH QUALITY SOUND BANKS) That's some money saved then

[@mickeythompson9537]

Yep - Eclipse has clearly got shit-filled-ears... no need to worry about buying any of their crap.

[@EclipseSound]

+mickey thompson Thats right! any simplon mastrubating to pure saw/square tones will not find anything interesting on my store! His brain will choke trying to process all those complex textures! I dont blame them - monkeys like to scrach their asses whole day and modular nuts like to explore the "new" fronties of universes based on sine/square and saw waveform (with pulse modulation!) - everybody has their own borders to cross in life. Its cool with me. BTW i dont have shit in ears i've done a frequency recognition test - 0.125 HZ error range result. Cheers, My Apish friend.

[@mickeythompson9537]

I rest my case. You've just shown the quality of your your "high quality sound wanks".

[@EclipseSound]

mickey thompson No i did not show anything regarding my banks. But if this is how you perceive reality / meaning of simple sentences - i don't have anything else to add. Go throw shit at people somewere else you prehistoric caveman.

[@dickheadrecs]

"keep it away from electromagnetic devices" *a wild glitch oscillator appears*

[@buttcheekjohnson2409]

As a person who's knowledge of music production consists of FL Studio and Midi Controllers, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen.

[@mylarmelodies]

+Harrison Andrews Hah! I started with hardware but FL Studio was the first thing I used when I first did computer music...