Modular Sleep System Old vs New-ish (Woodland vs UCP)

[@kentwood9821]

Really glad you covered this, thanks!

[@sourcheeseaa]

Thanks for uploading this. Ive been doing a lot of googling and couldn't find a side by side comparison. Looks like its the acu for me. I also thought that it was strange that the mss system cost the same. I imagine its age, even if stored perfectly, would reduce its active life. The acu pack is all over ebay at 149.99. Looks like thats about the price. Time to purchase.

[@Zoltoks]

Been loving my acu bivy took it out last week and made a video works well in winter. It is my go to beat em up bivy. I love being low profile.

[@sourcheeseaa]

@@Zoltoks I'm looking at getting the superfly tarp by warbonnet. I think that combination with the acu bivy would be perfect for every season except areas with heavy bugs. I'm sure their is something to add that provide netting over the bivy. Cheers and again good review. I look foward to seeing your winter trip video.

[@robertevans8126]

shared ... everyone will need these very soon!

[@no1up]

Robert. I'm Curios... you said this 11 months ago. What did you mean by this comment?

[@robertevans8126]

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[@no1up]

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[@robertevans8126]

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[@williamgarrison6060]

Robert Evans you’re right

[@JerseyJay1]

I actually have a woodland camo new. With the acu patrol and intermediate acu bags. Works out good for my area. Sweet stealth camping system.

[@Zulutime44]

Its funny how the US Army and I diverged in our respective development of a sleep system, since I separated. Mine revolves around mountain climbing and consists of either a polyester light bag, or a deluxe down bag for colder trips, both in the 3-4 lb range. Instead of a bivvy bag, I use a one-man gortex tent, with a hoop and screen at the front, weight is 2 lbs. Civvy stuff is arguably better for the weight, and the surplus MSS is more expensive in comparison.

[@funbobtime]

Yup, the surplus stuff can still have a place, I love the quality, but the weight and price has been pushing it to the back of my go to gear. The bivy itself is still pretty cool, but you can save several lbs just getting a cheap synthetic bag or bags to go inside it. I’m probably gonna branch out some vids into alternate set ups.

[@natashaball316]

I have the woodland, by the way the intermediate black bag nests inside the green patrol bag! One aspect I like about the bivvy is that it is a quite fabric with a matte finish with out shine or glimmer.

[@concernedcitizen2898]

Well now I know why they call you fun Bob. That WAS pretty fun.

[@FullSemiAuto357]

3:39 Woodland MSS costs MORE nowadays.

[@Scott-Parsons]

Very good video. I went with the one that's better for the universe. Thank you!

[@crunchyknees3622]

Just an FYI. You can fit all 3 components in the small stuff sack with a little extra work. I would do this to save space in my ruck as it packs down smaller

[@johngalt6929]

Thanks for posting this!

[@louiewatson9389]

The woodland camo still gets issued.

[@ambulance_boy3834]

Thank you for the in depth review of both! I recently did a review of the woodland one. Liked!

[@mjjackson5847]

I have one of each. Best buys ever. Dont get used. Even in new packs they smell like used. I did a lot of research

[@rubengonzales7423]

Mike Spain I’m scouting sites trying to find one, have determined I don’t want used either but not sure what the price range should be. Can you clue me in? Checking Amazon and it’s about $300.

[@kingsoutdoors4379]

@@rubengonzales7423 I bought a verry nice used woodland mss yesterday. The bivy and intermediate was never used. I paid 100 bucks. Amazon is 330 bucks new. I drove Two hours to get Mine. Just look it over real good. Mine is way more than I expected.... I buy the best gear I can find and this used Bag for 100 bucks will last Me the rest of My life. When You get your System, put it together inside of gortex bivy, then stuff into compression sack. This way if compression sack gets wet, your bags will not. When You store it hang bags, do not fold bivy. You will Love it!!

[@thebrizzy]

Nice review. I use the foliage and grey bags of the newer system with the woodland bivy of the older system.

[@azhomeboy2000]

I was curious to try that as well, do the snaps line up?

[@markwatola682]

@@azhomeboy2000 I was gifted the foliage bags and bought a woodland bivy. The snaps lined up for me. Unless there are generational differences, they should work fine.

[@bsdetjack]

@@azhomeboy2000 they do just fine

[@Thee-_-Outlier]

I just got the current bivvy which is OCP cammo one. I think it's narrower than it predecessors but I haven't been able to do a side by side. I have read the OCP one is NIR compliant, but I haven't confirmed that

[@tommyseabee2176]

Seems like everyone hates the UCP pattern. This will make the price drop. Woodland camo will always be cool.

[@whatabouttheearth]

Its not good as straight up camo but as a kinda camo, just get it dirty, like that type of dirty your gear has to earn and it starts to look better 😄 no joke, you just look like rocks in the forrest, concrete in the city, dirt-ish in the desert. They key is keep it dirty USMC/US Army 01-08, travelling train hopping hobo 08-present

[@tommyseabee2176]

@@whatabouttheearth, that’s what my kid was trying to tell me as well. He was in the Army. It seems like all of the service camo is squared away now.

[@whatabouttheearth]

Does the label in the top inner part of the ACU bivy say: " BIVY COVER W9124Q-05-D-0826 TENNIER INDUSTRIES, INC." Or something like that? The material feels lighter and softer than the woodland bivy I still have from the military and I'm trying to figure out if this is a knock off, I was supposed to buy it from Tannier on Amazon

[@alouiciousjackson5812]

I have a woodland by Rothco bought it new a few years ago, they sell for top $ still.

[@AnthonyMarx]

Hi. Tennier's website says that the bivy for the new 5 piece is laminate. Can you confirm that it is gortex?? Thanks.

[@chawnslopoke2619]

Is there any size difference between the 2 goretex bags? Thank you

[@user-neo71665]

IMHO the UCP is tighter in the shoulder area

[@carls.6746]

which one is more durable?

[@johnjohn5823]

I got a killer deal for the woodland MSS sleeping bag system for 100$ CAD. However with the black compression bag it comes with, it doesn’t actually compress that small. Do you think the MSS woodland sleeping bag can fit in the new ish UCP compression sack large? I might grab a couple of them off eBay if so. Thanks in advance!!

[@HoboRoadrunner]

thanks for posting and subbed . i just got thw ACU version in today but won't be able to use it until i get back to texas. witch bivy do you prefer tho

[@whatabouttheearth]

ACU is not good as straight up camo but as a kinda camo, just get it dirty, like that type of dirty your gear has to earn and it starts to look better 😄 no joke, you just look like rocks in the forrest, concrete in the city, dirt-ish in the desert. Its like seasoning pan. The key is to keep it dirty 😎 😉 USMC/US Army 01-08, traveling train hopping hobo 08-present

[@tphvictims5101]

Are the goretex outer bags interchangeable? I have the older model. If I could get the outer bag only I could save some coin.

[@ambulance_boy3834]

Yes they are.

[@bsdetjack]

Yes they all snap together fine

[@Sertao2013]

What is the differences in the gore tex bivy at the top the way it seals up ? I thought the newer one zipped all the way around your head and the older one was just a slap with a piee of velcro to keep it covered is that true ?

[@Sertao2013]

@@funbobtime how do you keep the rain out if it just flaps over on the older ones? I would think at the rain was really coming down you'd want to be able to zip it all the way closed.

[@colmkaine8123]

Can you interchange the newer bags with the older ones? For example use the older bivy and intermediate bag with one of the newer patrol bags

[@bsdetjack]

Yes you can. I have woodland cammo bivy, and older patrol bag with the newer gray cold weather gray bag. They all snap together fine.

[@mulhall72]

Yes

[@DVolvoguy777-x7o]

FunBob, how long is that plastic strip you used in your prior video to keep the bivy cover off your face?

[@borristhebutcher6632]

@@funbobtime That is one of the most helpful tips I've seen on youtube for these, I appreciate it.

[@anonymouslegion4928]

Pool noodles work well, just cut to length

[@KinGRageBJA]

The footbox on the newer version seems a little wider

[@bustercrabbe8447]

Intermediate bag. Only rated to 10 degrees above zero Fahrenheit. Not a winter bag. It is a FALL weather temperature bag.

[@SilverPony44]

Swagman roll

[@peerzeidler]

crass cool friend yes camo play !!

[@FrictionFire-q5z]

Good vid Man.I got the Dij camo New but The intermediate Bag is black and mine didn't come with a second stuff sack.Would like to find a Woodland Cammo bivy.

[@FrictionFire-q5z]

@@funbobtime chest collar was just in front.b ut whole system was in sealed plastic bag with tags on it.And yeah the cammo bivys on Ebay are expensive and in bad shape in most cases.I love my system and getting ready to use it again this weekend.opener of deer season(Michigan)

[@markb7012]

Mine is the same, and I thought that was standard until watching this... Did you order yours from Gear Trade?

[@peerzeidler]

super cool friend !! A1 !!! friend !!!

[@d.b.5070]

It’s not ACU, it’s UCP. Certainly not “Universal camo”.

[@d.b.5070]

There you go. A quick internet search reveals all. Go out into the world with your new knowledge.

[@clydemactavish3457]

nobody cares. Everyone knows ACU just means the uniform but use it interchangeably with UCP the camo pattern. Hence why everyone calls the new uniforms OCPs.

[@d.b.5070]

Not everyone, not even most

[@clydemactavish3457]

@@d.b.5070 nah unless you're brain dead it's pretty trivial to figure out what people are talking about.. You know now that I type it out, I'm not surprised that you're needing this distinction.

[@redred333]

better for the.. universe lollll

[@whatabouttheearth]

ACU is not good as straight up camo but as a kinda camo, just get it dirty, like that type of dirty your gear has to earn and it starts to look better 😄 no joke, you just look like rocks in the forrest, concrete in the city, dirt-ish in the desert. Its like seasoning a pan. The key is to keep it dirty 😎 😉 USMC/US Army 01-08, traveling train hopping hobo 08-present

[@scottcatchot1598]

Go rebel alliance