Idk how everyone didn't get a lot of this was a joke 😂 might've been a bit too subtle and realistic with the jabs, might need to ham it up some more lmao Cam did a beautiful job also, thats a nice clean desktop
@modustrial Жыл бұрын
Exactly! 😃
@Tavieme Жыл бұрын
@@modustrialnah… you were being a a hole and this guy gave you a way out. You are awful at joking and you’re just not that good as a actor.
@Fixthisbuildthat Жыл бұрын
For the record, my wireless charger works just fine for me 😂😂
@patrickdugan4395 Жыл бұрын
Cause you da man!!!
@TheAshers999 Жыл бұрын
😂 I feel like you got burnt 😂
@c.a.g.1977 Жыл бұрын
You can always swap it out or a Mountain Dew holder 😄
@BreloomsGarden Жыл бұрын
I hope Cam wasn't feeling too bad about some of these moments here and was being a good sport, but I'm sure this was a great learning experience! Seems super fun.
@Danielism Жыл бұрын
Love how you show the amateur mistakes and show the remedy. All the other KZbinrs doing the pro vs amateur don't show those mistakes!
@erc1971erc1971 Жыл бұрын
I am going to have to vote for Cam's desk. Not because it is the superior product - your desk is freaking amazing. But because Cam stepped out of his comfort zone to start learning a new skill. For a beginner it turned out really well! And, if he keeps learning, he will be more valuable to Modustrial Maker down the road. And tip...don't taunt Cam and refuse to let him use the CNC...he is the camera man and could make fun if you while editing a future video :P
@slowman82k8 Жыл бұрын
I think the point was to limit him to more the "beginner" tools. CNC isnt beginner.
@toms2oo8 Жыл бұрын
@@slowman82k8 Should have put the pro on beginner tools and the 'beginner' on "expert" tools.
@doubledarefan Жыл бұрын
@@toms2oo8 You reminded me of Jetsons Meet The Flintstones.
@carterbaralt1540 Жыл бұрын
Might I suggest routing a channel in the back of the speaker holder arms, so the cords can be run down under the desk instead of up above. Looks great & good work Cam.
@AlexAlex-gj4jd Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@PattyPaints Жыл бұрын
My thought, too. Hidden speaker cords would be awesome to not take away from those sleek "Starship Enterprise" arms!
@TheAshers999 Жыл бұрын
Same, I just commented something similar
@teddluke534 Жыл бұрын
I like Cam's desk. It is not as simple as it looks with the way it was built. I can see he put in a lot of effort and thought behind it. Way to go Cam!
@drdeaf9420 Жыл бұрын
I must say, as a beginner woodworker, i do love this format, let him make mistakes and help him fix them as they are very common mistakes that everyone makes especially if they are new. And very nice not to laugh/take the piss out of that person as it can discourage them on finishing the project. Fantastic video and such great mentorship. Both of the tables look fantastic !!
@bernardaguiar Жыл бұрын
Cam for sure. Thankfully Cam has a great sense of humor.
@yuGtahT Жыл бұрын
Cam did great here! Good job Cam!
@bernclif Жыл бұрын
I like the Walnut desk. It’s warmer in color, sleek looking and classier.
@guillaumep.7206 Жыл бұрын
I really liked seeing a beginner try, fail, get taught, fix, move on and succeed. As a more than beginner myself, it makes me feel good not to see an experienced youtuber show how he achieved amazing results by editing out most of the parts that feel simple to him but are completely unknown to me (alternating wood grain, using a jointer first, etc)
@modustrial Жыл бұрын
thanks, from both of us!
@marihannah6702 Жыл бұрын
Both of the desks turned out beautifully!
@moritzh. Жыл бұрын
Well, I'm certain your desk is a lot higher quality and standard, but I prefer the lighter colors and simplicity of the amature desk... Well done :)
@farvasstache6532 Жыл бұрын
So yea, I'm a fan of the Walnut, and the stands of course. No doubt those adds some "pop". But Cam's desk with it's glorious flaws is also a nice clean looking desk. Winner? Pro, but don't do the "dance of joy" (
@stephenoran2019 Жыл бұрын
Both desks turned out awesome! Cam did a great job for a relative newcomer to making! Any future features on adding to the desks would be awesome! Thanks so much!
@PattyPaints Жыл бұрын
Mike, yours is gorgeous with the walnut and super cool charging plate, but... I gotta go with Cam's for simplicity, its light and bright look, clean lines, and the cute factor. (Cam's, not the desk's.) Plus... I always root for the underdog. 😁 Is he really 6'7"?! No wonder you're always filmed at a good angle! Lol! I think Cam has earned a Beginner Winner Chicken Dinner!!! 😂😂
@PhillyFan344 Жыл бұрын
Wow this video was awesome. Both desks came out great. The fancy inlays made it. Please do another pro vs amateur with Cam on these little projects. Be a fun story line to see his progress.
@cynthiagilbert Жыл бұрын
As always beautiful art work! Your camera man did awesome to !!🎉🎉🎉🎉
@TrailRat2000 Жыл бұрын
I like Cam's. It's nice and simple, looks great and I wouldn't be scared to use it to work on.
@Th3R4junC4jun Жыл бұрын
@2:23 I 100% did that when I started and had to figure out what a thickness plainer was on my own. the teaching moment here is invaluable
@Th3R4junC4jun Жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: if you have some flat sheet good that is at least as long as the board you want to plain. andhere the board to the sheet good and the plainer will copy the flatness of the sheet good onto the board that you want to flatten.
@Grumm-Nation Жыл бұрын
Modustrial Gaming would be sick! I would definitely watch. A game to start with if you are not all for FPS, is Satisfactory, a factory building game where you can build a factory, but also rely on numbers, and calculate how much you need for what you want.
@angelinabrown3142 Жыл бұрын
The speaker platforms did it for me. I love those. And, yes, they do resemble the sweep of the Enterprise but not the original. It reminded me of the nacelle arms of the D. (Yes, I'm a Trekkie. I own that.) I do love the outlet cover, though.
@allenhess656 Жыл бұрын
I like Cam's desk. On the production side of the office, his fits beautifully.
@MrTakoyaki1 Жыл бұрын
I think it's cam for me. I love the simplicity. Woodworking is polishing mistakes. I don't think I've ever worked on a single project where I haven't made a mistake.
@LordBoZman Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing in this is the level of trust you had in Cam not editing this to make you look like an asshole.
@TheAshers999 Жыл бұрын
Haha, think he likes his job though 😂
@LordBoZman Жыл бұрын
@@TheAshers999 Oh I know but it's still funny to think about
@ericpatterson8794 Жыл бұрын
He didn't?
@scherre Жыл бұрын
Both desks looks awesome. I do like the darker colours of the walnut wood more but in terms of finished product made by beginner vs pro I do think Cam deserves the win. We know you can (and do) make awesome stuff often. Cam's desk absolutely looks like a high quality, sturdy piece that people would pay handsomely to have in their home or office. To get that good of a build on the first project he was completely in charge of is incredibly impressive, especially given there were a few 'oops' moments along the way. I very much agree that the jigsaw mishap turned into a happy accident as the wood frame on the power insert looks great.
@JaayB Жыл бұрын
Both desks look great! The beginner one is definitely something I would try at some point if I ever get the chance, but I only have some basic hand and power tools. The only thing that annoys me with the pro desk is the speaker orientation. As a music guy this bugs me. If you can put some angle adjustment on it so the speakers can point directly at your ears and make a sweet spot, that would truly be a pro move for audio work and editing. Otherwise it's great for casual listening.
@leegarner4111 Жыл бұрын
I love the walnut,Cam did a great job,but I have to vote for yours.
@manlycactus Жыл бұрын
very nice seeing a video with cam! This was a cute project!
@stanleysadventres Жыл бұрын
I also go with Cam, he did pretty good for his first project!!
@Beezerfish79 Жыл бұрын
Cam gets bonus points for the Harry’s sweatshirt. Boiler up!
@MatthiasPowerbomb Жыл бұрын
Your desk turned out super-slick. No surprise there. Cam's is more simple, but it came out very well, especially for a first project.
@woodworksbygrampies1284 Жыл бұрын
Hola! 🖐Great video, I really enjoyed this one. Congrats to Cam on his first build, really good job.👏👏I would definitely like to see more of this style video where you each build the "same" project and see the results. There are many of us "beginners" that need a more down to earth approach to some of the nice projects more advance builders are making. I think that the arm for your lighting sounds like an interesting video, I would definitely watch it as well. Take care and have a good one, Adios!👊
@ghoulgoil5029 Жыл бұрын
Yours of course! But Cam’s is pretty sweet too. Pretty work on both desks.
@Katter1234 Жыл бұрын
Either of the two builds I would love to own. You both did an amazing job for each of your skill sets. I think the overhead LED light bar would look better on the pine desk with less reflecting light. Enjoy your work and inspiration.
@Poppy-xp8fr Жыл бұрын
I go with Cam… he is very tolerant of the patronizing approach.
@nikolajlandrock2191 Жыл бұрын
Same. I watched the intro on the overview screen, no audio, just reading graphics. I kept checking if it was some third party channel that posted a mashup of older vids or something.
@Sousyned Жыл бұрын
Yeah, some Buddy Valastro “friendly competition” vibes.
@brianeatock4383 Жыл бұрын
“I didn’t know you could screw that up so bad.” A jerk comment for sure. How about helping with your vast knowledge without being so patronizing?
@philipwilliams8114 Жыл бұрын
I’m afraid that I have to agree. This shows a different side to Mike
@Poppy-xp8fr Жыл бұрын
Let’s picture an analogy for a moment. Let’s say a professional basketball player challenge a high school student to a game of 1:1. The amateur had to use one of the red playground balls, shoot from the three point line only, no layup shots allowed, no rebounding permitted, play in hiking boots, not allowed to jump etc. When the amateur didn’t make a shot or made even the slightest of errors, they would be reminded that they are not a professional and then questioned why they aren’t performing as well as the seasoned professional. That’s what it looked like.
@rdph6693 Жыл бұрын
What a hard choice! I think if I were in an office I would have to go with the Pro build. But for home it's definitely Cam's. I've mentioned before how much I love pine paneling, this just seems to fit right in.
@rhkips Жыл бұрын
I don't get the whole sit-stand desk thing, just can't figure out why on earth you'd wanna stand... LOL I love Cam's build! Despite not having much experience, he had an idea, and he went for it! That's the true spirit of DIY. Just go for it, make mistakes, learn from it, but don't stop until you've built the thing you wanted to build. I've built so many things that I hate, but I value each one 'cause I learned a lot from each of them. :) I love your build, too! I have an arguably unhealthy obsession with walnut! It's easily the most beautiful non-exotic wood, and your execution with it here is stunning!
@xelaander8429 Жыл бұрын
If you've ever had to sit on a project for 6 plus hours you'd get why at a point you just rather stand and continue working
@shiggins1324 Жыл бұрын
More of this. It's a great format. Mentor and student. Don't think I've seen any other channels doing this. I'd know if I were starting out, these are the mistakes I'd make. Great way to get across tips. Even if this was a joke, I believe the format is great.
@modustrial Жыл бұрын
Thanks, we had fun and will definitely do some more in the future
@CrimsenOverlordVideos Жыл бұрын
I'd be happy with either desk. You guys did great.
@davidroddini1512 Жыл бұрын
Not going to lie. I think the walnut desk looks good. But I definitely like Cam’s desk better. I personally tend to prefer the simplest way to get the job done. That’s definitely Cam’s desk!
@mamahnita Жыл бұрын
They both look nice but I like yours better because it is bigger and has more features. Good job and congratulation on your first project Cam.
@kaylenesyberjedi9690 Жыл бұрын
Both desks look awesome. However, as I get older, I have discovered that I prefer a more industrial and darker look to my furniture, so I have to go with the pro build. Not knocking what Cam made. He did a fantastic job. I also like how you turned his mistakes into learning experiences, showing him what he did wrong, and how to go about fixing it.
@corail53 Жыл бұрын
I would just call it mikes build. He is no pro.
@GareebSAG Жыл бұрын
I love your work and effort in these videos. I have learned so much from you. First video I saw was the beginning of the abandoned building then I subscribed immediately. Keep it up.
@Arkie80 Жыл бұрын
Great work guys. Both of you did a top notch job. I'd love to see you build the LED stand Mike. That'd be great.
@traceyshenanigans Жыл бұрын
You made an off the cuff reference to Modustrial 'gaming'. I think that there is a huge market for upscale gaming desks and your desk would fit in perfectly. Plus, who doesn't want LED lighting?
@c.a.g.1977 Жыл бұрын
The walnut looks way better, but that's a given. I believe that the 'amateur' desk is pretty sweet, considering the (lack of) experience of the builder. Just love your shop and all tyour tools, Mike, you are very fortunate to be where you are now in life, but you worked very hard for it!
@miki09l Жыл бұрын
and just like that.... BOOM! love it! be sure to update us on those leds :)
@MagnusX117 Жыл бұрын
Great video. My votes for the pro. Really enjoyed this vs format. It’s a nice touch that it’s not an overly serious competition, rather a work and learn together experience, very cool.
@modustrial Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@Blitzenwagon Жыл бұрын
Love both the builds on its own.. Nice work cam for the first time, trail and error is the way to learn right 💪 For the speaker stand i had chosen for a channel true te legs for the wires. Love the channel ✌️😉
@jampresident9197 Жыл бұрын
I am always going to pick walnut as it is one of my favourite woods, but the 2X4 desk looks pretty sweet.
@Salimji26 Жыл бұрын
I would say that plate Cam has would look a lot cleaner if it was routed out and flush mounted, I like his more though, very simple, not a huge fan of the curves or the rounded corners when it comes to my desks. Both look amazing though, been looking for ideas for a new surface for my standing desk
@AstronomyGarage Жыл бұрын
To be honest, it's tough to decide. I like the simplicity of the pine 2x4's, but the walnut sure has a beautiful finish.
@ChronicAUZ Жыл бұрын
this would be a sick VS type of series also educational for those at you and his wood working levels. also good way to make some cook looking stuff that isn't always the same
@jsraudio Жыл бұрын
quick tip from an audio engineer here, you may want to remake the speaker mounts with a 30 degree inward angle, ideally you want the speakers pointed at your head, forming an equilateral triangle, so angling them in 30 degrees is the optimal angle for nice direct, balanced sound.
@daniellemhall1358 Жыл бұрын
Both desks are beautiful. I always tend to root for the underdog, and that is how I'm leaning now, but the Enterprise shaped speaker holders are leaning it to the other side a little.
@tomrockholm-timeless_morph6691 Жыл бұрын
I’d have to go with yours but it would’ve been a touch better if you could’ve cable managed the speaker wires through their stands or routered a slot in the back of them to neatly tuck the wires so they aren’t just dangling across like that. Both look great and I wouldn’t hesitate to have either option as my own haha.
@nova_kane Жыл бұрын
I'd watch a Modustrial gaming series where you critique the quality of the furniture in the games. Excellent desks lads.
@SunnyGlasgow Жыл бұрын
top class, i prefer Mike's desk but Cam's desk is fantastic too 👍
@peterdnreynolds777 Жыл бұрын
Both desks look amazing
@shellywinters2162 Жыл бұрын
I think both desks are amazing. The Pro gets number 1 for me just because of all the additional features however I would have preferred it made out of a lighter wood.
@purdue92 Жыл бұрын
I love how Cam is always representing Purdue. Boiler up!!! 🙂
@Stephen_A. Жыл бұрын
You both made great desks. 💙 My desk consists of a fiberboard top (cut for me at Home Depot) on top of two filing cabinets. But at least the filing cabinets are matching. 😂
@annegrzesiak7139 Жыл бұрын
Hard to choose! I like the walnut. The project was executed nicely. Using 2x4s was very cost-effective. I prefer the size & casters of the walnut desk.
@RasmusDK.. Жыл бұрын
sick build.. only upgrade would be to hide the speaker wires inside the mounts but beautifull table.. and the amature build is nice aswell. wish i had the gear to make something like this ❤❤
@kilianfunke8974 Жыл бұрын
Definitely need to built some sound absorbers for the studio room. This will make your VO, ultra crisp. They are quite echoey right now. Also I would love your take on sound absorbtion, and nerd out about it. It will also make the space that you guys do spend quite some time in, a hell of a lot more comfy.
@modustrial Жыл бұрын
That is in the plans for a studio makeover down the road!
@slayer2580 Жыл бұрын
@@modustrialUse Rockwool for the acoustic panels. 👍
@timj. Жыл бұрын
I think the powerstrip frame actually gives a nice bit of contrast on the desk.
@lydiacavanagh8347 Жыл бұрын
Love both the desks tho. My favourite is the walnut one
@fredcarlson5775 Жыл бұрын
Mike I really love your desk I do prefer walnut for me my wife loves Cam's desk since they are not in the same room it works
@tx4631 Жыл бұрын
I love that ocean Wallpaper on your curved monitor. I commented on another video a long time ago that I thought a nice colorful aquarium would look nice in your home. As for the desk I love both of them.
@modustrial Жыл бұрын
I actually took that photo myself :) I used to have a saltwater aquarium years ago, but now I’ve got my hands full with Tex!
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, guys! Both turned out fantastic! 😃 Really well done!!! Stay safe there with your families! 🖖😊
@wadetyler5056 Жыл бұрын
For most budgets the pine is fine, the walnut is beautiful but very expensive!
@jonathonbarnes3582 Жыл бұрын
I will go with the amateur desk. Simple, clean and economical. I want to see a LED strip light routed into the edge though! Great work guys.
@TotalBoat Жыл бұрын
They both turned out pretty amazing! 👏👏
@miriam4235 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, cameraman Cam won for me. That is mainly because I don't like dark wood and a simpler and sleeker design over all. 😆
@sergeydolzhin1846 Жыл бұрын
Dark looks better in life, rather than light. On the video lift table looks better.
@Casper51tfg Жыл бұрын
Cam’s is nice a simple.
@ShopNation Жыл бұрын
Dangit, Cam. My vote was for 3D printing the bezel around your jigsaw...eh...adventure
@timothycanipe6470 Жыл бұрын
I personally love the look of black walnut, and I love the speaker stands you made. So I'd have to go pro instead of noob for this build. Gotta say though, Cam's desk looks great for a first build.
@Kriss_941 Жыл бұрын
Honestly... think I would go for the amateur one. However if I was to do this myself I'd do alot different either way... - Built in wireless charging is nice, I'd keep that, but I would put it on the right hand side since I'm right handed and it just makes sense you know, I would probably go with the "invisible" approach though. - Get rid of the powerstrip and if anything add a USB hub instead. The outlet with all the plugs goes on the underside of the desk to hide the cables. - Speaker shelves are nice, but it's a desk... You sit so close that unless you angle them inwards dispersion will be an issue so fix that. - PC hanging under the desk could be ok, but not when it's right where my legs would be, move that shit to the side or just make the desk large enough so it fits on top of the desk. - Keyboard trays belong in the late 90's early 2000's get that shit out of here. - Since I have, an external AMP/DAC for my headphones, an AMP for my passive speakers and an Audio interface for my guitar I'd probably add some shelves of sorts for these and maybe something to hang my headphones on. - Also some way to easily store my other keyboards within arms reach for when I decide I wanna switch it up. - Oh, and don't forget epic gamer RGB ambient lighting.
@DanteVelasquez Жыл бұрын
Both desks came out amazing
@CihaPet Жыл бұрын
The walnut is beautiful, but I'm going to have to go with Cam. Taking something 'plain' like a 2x4 and really making it pop. Mistakes were made, sure... But it isn't how often you fall, it is getting up and crossing the finish line.
@benjamintennant6851 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I think price for price Cam's is better. I also prefer the lighter colour and shape of Cams.
@davidjasinski6633 Жыл бұрын
Like both! It would depend on the other furnishings in the room which way I would go. Can you comment on the total cost of each desk, including all the PC mounting hardware?
@howto2628 Жыл бұрын
They both look great
@jahanas22 Жыл бұрын
Cam did a good job but I prefer the walnut.
@tfrogginhfroggin Жыл бұрын
Both turned out great
@rafaelthomas4174 Жыл бұрын
Both desk turned out fantastic, Great Job!!! However, I'm curious about the monitor, what's the make and model?
@shaunbowen Жыл бұрын
Love that finish on the pro desk! Would like to have seen the power sockets flush-mounted on both desks though, unless there was a reason that wasn't possible?
@stephdunham Жыл бұрын
It’s funny you mentioned Star Trek in reference to the speaker stands because I was going to ask why I felt like at some point I’d hear “Engage” with an “Aye, Captain” in response when I saw those stands
@rubyrunner4509 Жыл бұрын
love cam's desk
@ann-marietrotman9589 Жыл бұрын
The moment you didn’t let Cam use the fancy machinery you lost I’m afraid lol. Cam gets my vote!
@jademorgan999 Жыл бұрын
Both are fantastic. I hate those casters tho. I'd prefer a sturdy metal caster to carry the load
@joshmize5646 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link you can share for the drop in outlets? Great builds on both jobs!
@trevorupton6904 Жыл бұрын
Both desks look great
@zlatan_2197 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, you're obviously better craftsman, but I personally prefer Cam's desk, because I like lighter colours and sharper edges.
@retroandgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm voting for the PRO desk but as you are the PRO you will also get the heat. The desk is beautiful! But if you had hid the speaker wires inside the speaker stands it would have looked a lot better from the side and back. But yeah.. my desk doesn't look that good and I'm also envious so keep that in mind... :D
@TheAshers999 Жыл бұрын
It has to be your desk it’s amazing, my only issue though is seeing the speaker wires could these not have been put under the desk & up the stands to the speakers
@timlovegrove1097 Жыл бұрын
Love the look of the speaker stands, only comment would be they point straight ahead, where they should be angled somewhat towards the listening position to get better stereo imaging. Generally they would be set up as a triangle pointing slightly behind the listener’s ears. That might be less of a consideration if you’re not mixing songs from raw audio, but it would improve the overall listening experience. Easy to do if you used a single screw to mount the top plate, as it could then be rotated.
@lydiacavanagh8347 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever used linseed oil? It gives a really nice finish