Christo. Thanks for the shout out. Look forward to seeing you at the PGA Show.
@MiracleSwingExperience9 ай бұрын
Great! I can’t wait to catch up!
@pjpredhomme7699Ай бұрын
Hi Christo , I grew up in Ontario and knew and played golf with Moe several times . Your analysis IMO is very good . I can offer you a couple of things that Moe used to stress you have probably already heard them but I will add to it . First - as you mentioned Moe was genius in that he always tried to swing the club as simply as possible hence the setup like you pointed out . also in his set up his right elbow is almost already preset to fold at the top of the backswing - it made for less moving parts. Once he got to the top - he called it - sit , buckle, slide and bump . That was the sequences that he called his downswing - sit was literally a siting type motion - where his hips started to move downward - buckle was his knees buckling - or moving downward - slide is the lateral motion you mentioned - and bump is how he referred to Impact. I should also say Moe was never distance oriented - however he hit the ball is how far he hit the ball - he would always say he was strictly technique oriented - and that is not insignificant - that is all he ever concerned himself with - and that is the outcome he derived from it . He was nearly robotic in that he did the same thing over and over and over. Lastly - as you mentioned his right arm through impact - that is something that he consciously practiced all the time. He had a big coin that he kept in his pocket - like a silver dollar - and he would place it on the ground - down the target line - and he always practiced stretching for that coin - He would demonstrate his right arm/ hand reaching as far after the ball as he could trying to extend that to the target - he called it shaking hands with the flag . In a pure analysis that is not completely accurate as it would take the club off of plane - if you look at 10:03-10:04 you will see it - I knew his over a period of 25-30 years and some things he would say about the swing would change from time to time - but that always stayed constant . I hope this is valuable to you in some way - great job and thank you for continuing to recognize his brilliance . He was publicly shy , but he was not offended by being considered the greatest to ever do it - so I have no doubt he would enjoy that people continue referencing his mastery of ball striking .
@johnathanwetherill456Ай бұрын
Wow lucky Guy . Love Moe . My golfing hero .
@SavedInANanosecond. Жыл бұрын
His swing changed my entire game...way more confident and consistent...
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
So much to learn from Moe!
@rogermoores9416 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thanx Cristo
@hillbilly4christ63827 күн бұрын
Look at Jack Nicklaus’s swing. His setup and swing remained the same through the years. He always lifted that left foot, turned his head before the swing and of course made his power move through the ball. Consistency! Jack struggled with putting, but his drives were the strongest part of his game.
@zairethyben20187 ай бұрын
Christo! This was the different perspective I needed. I've been an academy member of GGA for 3 years, and nothing they say is incorrect, but this analysis and your video about Hogan's trail hand grip have slapped me in the face with what I needed. Please don't tell Todd. Actually, if I get really good you should because it could only help them. I'll let you know ;)
@malikiagriffin91026 ай бұрын
You should delete this and let Todd correct you by putting the plane line down the trail arm through the back so you can see for yourself
@kourt2469 Жыл бұрын
The head bobbing up and down i think is a great way to swing. Hard to sway if your first move is a little bit up, plus it makes it much easier to squat and use the ground properly. Great way to have good rhythm and timing as well
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
Man, I've never thought about that!
@zwiguy9494 Жыл бұрын
Padraig Harrington has a video on his channel that I found helpful where he talks about an “up down up” feel to the swing to avoid topping the ball. Moe definitely does that move as well, super powerful
@devonmccalla498 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the angle. I’ve see videos of him and he perfectly on plane not over the top.
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
Well, there was a definite loop over in the swing I traced! He did not drop it under.
@steveking2144 Жыл бұрын
Watching Norman's driver swing... one thing is apparent. His lead knee is bent at impact... who else did this and was considered the most accurate of his day? Byron Nelson!!! Everyone today wants to straighten and "snap" the lead leg on the downswing. So my question to you is this.... what role does keeping the lead leg bent during impact and maybe even moving beyond the foot, play in keeping the club on line and producing "straight" shots? Should we stop straightening and snapping the lead knee and keep that knee bent?
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
There’s a couple long drive guys who still hit into a bent knee. Nicklaus played well with that!!! Right?
@steveking2144 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching another channel... and he's showing some top pros at impact. Rory has a bent knee at impact and to me the greatest bent knee swing of all time is Byron Nelson.... So the other day I was there just a "straightening and a snapping that left knee" and I started topping the ball!!! Uggh! When I concentrated on keeping the front knee bent I was making way better contact. @@MiracleSwingExperience
@mp-jr3jc4 ай бұрын
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@leftywedge Жыл бұрын
Hi Christo This is a wonderful video. It would be nice to have Todd Graves opinion on “was Moe an over the top swinger”? Maybe a short Podcast? Thanks.
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
Great I. Maybe I can get him on!
@NathanMiller-p3o2 ай бұрын
I literally started this way but due to hip issue I slowly left but just tonight after not being able to put the ball where I want I came back and man the ball just goes so straight
@davidparker256311 ай бұрын
Jac 4338 is misinformed Hogan's handle path on the downswing is slightly outside the handle path of the backswing, had to be with a swing that flat, any dropping would be disaster
@msherer2609 ай бұрын
Moe videos show two different swings, one was the "Natural Golf" palm grip, face the ball at impact, the other was Moe's normal swing (like Graves Golf Teaches) anyone watching the Over the top swing better understand you still come into the ball from the inside, it is easy to be TOO over the top and come into the ball from the outside which is the common among new golfers and big time slicers.
@tacticaltruth8118 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. So, “over the top” does not mean “out to in”?
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
Exactly. We have confused terms in golf. Bad golfers go OTT and OUT to IN. Many great golfers go OTT and on plane.
@Aloha967895 ай бұрын
You call it over the top but it shouldn't be confused with the OTT that involves early extension and raising the handle. The latter being the OTT that causes people so much grief with their swing.
@steveking2144 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKXGcp-Lirxkg5I Here's a youtube video of Byron Nelson's swing. They put a swing tracer on him. If you fast forward to 1:28 of the video, you can see the "Over the top" move on the downswing. You could use that for a video. Thought you'd be interested in that.
@raybowles858710 ай бұрын
I think Moe's has to have a forward lateral shift because he sets up way behind the ball.
@scottreiber68797 ай бұрын
Another great video Christo. Over the top is ok as long as the clubhead is travelling along the target line at impact.
@ktomjr110 ай бұрын
I used to swing super consistently over the top when I was a newer golfer. Then I started increasing my golf IQ and learned I was “wrong,” and began trying to “fix” my swing. I’ve never been as consistent as I used to be again.
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@KAMNC Жыл бұрын
Hands over the top. Club head inside
@王毅-p1u4 ай бұрын
Moe is simple and effective 😊
@thegolfingmusician6345 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video with you, Reed, and Todd all on the course together.
@TheRecordButton6 ай бұрын
There's an old video of that
@methodicl2673Ай бұрын
No good golfer thinks about how they swing the club until you ask them.
@jac4338 Жыл бұрын
Literally NOTHING over the top in Moe's swing lol. If anything, he's just the opposite. He clearly drops it under. Same with Hogan. He wasn't over the top either.
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
I guess those swing traces had me fooled! 😂😂😂
@jac4338 Жыл бұрын
@@MiracleSwingExperience I don't need to see a swing tracer that YOU put on there. I use my eyes and clearly see just like everyone else. There's nothing over the top with Moe or Hogan. Either you're deliberately being dishonest or idk what.
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
You are lying to yourself about what you see. I traced it.
@kourt2469 Жыл бұрын
His hand path is clearly inside and over the top but he keeps his wrist angles so the club stays on plane
@MiracleSwingExperience Жыл бұрын
@@kourt2469 Without question. That's key. I'm saying there's nothing wrong with that pattern for his hands is all.
@brewmaster95060 Жыл бұрын
:)
@nathancude3703 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Christo, I really enjoyed how your channel started but it has gotten quite gimmicky. You’re swing has become silky though. Great job on your swing evolution. You should look into doing collaborations with other KZbin golfers. Teaching … not so much.
@Sueezedtight9 ай бұрын
If you were to put that "dot" on his sacrum (base of the spine) you would see that like most good ball strikers, there is an initial slight movement forward and then a re-centring until impact after which the "cleared" hips move toward the tardet during release and follow-through. Just part of the rotary aspect of a good, centred, swing path.