Moen Shower Valve Installation Tips

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@k2_tech745
@k2_tech745 4 ай бұрын
So a great video. Excellent information in an efficient edit with no vertigo inducing camera movements. It is actually hard to find great DIY videos like yours here!
@gregloew3093
@gregloew3093 3 жыл бұрын
How deep do you place the 2 x 4 or 2 x 6 behind the top flange elbow?
@johndooley8837
@johndooley8837 3 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks. I have had bad results disturbing/moving soldered joints too soon after making the solder joint. For me they tend to move out of alignment or even fall apart because the solder hasn't cooled and is still molten. My advise to beginners out there is to solder it and leave it alone for a few minutes, let it cool on its own until the solder hardens. Also if there is any water at all in the pipes it will not heat properly for soldering, use a shop vac to suck it out or you can stuff some bread into the pipe to damn the water back, don't worry it works really well and it will wash right out. As shown in the video clean all parts well, I even clean the solder. And don't over do it with the heat or the solder, a few seconds after the solder starts to melt and flow is enough heat, stop heating , you can still add solder for a second or so after. If the solder drips you are using too much - a common mistake. Off topic but regarding copper pipe, avoid using it and if it's 30 years old or more in your house consider replacing it. Copper type M is thin and starts to get pin holes, type L is better but I would not trust it to last for ever.
@marcosluis421
@marcosluis421 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. How far back to you set back the cross wood for the valve and the shower arm? Is there a standard or recommended setback?
@simmitysam1397
@simmitysam1397 2 жыл бұрын
that is a shit video, really this is the best question to ask, and this guy has not answered it yet, seen its asked many times.
@bustopninja4520
@bustopninja4520 4 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why I liked this vid was the speed. I want info fast and correct! Thanks!
@dianeandmarkchristensen2034
@dianeandmarkchristensen2034 2 жыл бұрын
You should warn people specifically to not put pex between the valve and the tub spout, only ever have one elbow in that line, and to place the valve so the tub spout is between 6 and 11 inches from it. Otherwise water will come out of the shower head when the tub is filling. Specs per hard-to-find Moen spec sheet.
@freddie966woo
@freddie966woo 2 жыл бұрын
I never know this until i watched this video and ur comment. I guess this is why my spout and shower have water coming out at same time
@maxnguyen22
@maxnguyen22 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like there is a straight to stud shower walls being installed. If so how far did you measure out the faucet
@KevinModz65
@KevinModz65 6 ай бұрын
This can be done without any copper or soldering at all but using only pex if you use drop in elbow fittings for the shower faucet and tub faucet. Just secure the drop in fittings to your studs, that is what gives your spouts their strength. Then run the pex to the valve. The “must use copper” comes in play if you don’t have the valves secured to anything. We been doing it this way for years and never one issue
@moneymakingmikeg.9555
@moneymakingmikeg.9555 5 жыл бұрын
Man... Jeff. When I'm watching the videos so many details come up & are covered that I would of NEVER thought of!! It's great to watch all the videos on YT that showcase super cool looking tile but, there is so much that needs to be done prior!!! Your guy's videos are great man!!! Keep on keepin on!!! Dirty Jersey out!!!
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 5 жыл бұрын
thank you man, we totally agree. Tile looks nice but it’s all the waterproofing and prep that make it so cool!!
@jasonv9202
@jasonv9202 4 жыл бұрын
What determines the depth of the valve? Is something expected the be smooth with the final layer of tile? My install will have backer board then tile.
@andriyshapovalov8886
@andriyshapovalov8886 4 жыл бұрын
Yes plastic round thing flash with The finished wal...The valve comes with installation manual for thin and thick wall
@Massimono
@Massimono 3 жыл бұрын
Does that black plastic have to stay behind the wall?
@pbc1951
@pbc1951 3 жыл бұрын
I need to know what to do with that black plastic circle thing?
@sergiorodriguez2443
@sergiorodriguez2443 4 жыл бұрын
Good video good info. Although maybe slow down the vids a little. Images going too fast
@doneown503
@doneown503 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! also, show them pulling the plastics out BEFORE the application of any heat. They say it, but it goes by pretty fast.
@matthewminer9199
@matthewminer9199 2 жыл бұрын
On KZbin video, click settings (gear icon), then playback speed. Adjust as desired... I typically speed up by 1.25 or 1.5, but, in this case, i was quite happy.
@davidater9
@davidater9 Жыл бұрын
Is it safe to use tile backer screws on copper pipe clamps? If the bracket scraps off the coating as the screw is tightened, then you would have just put steel against copper which is a no - no.
@jruan8
@jruan8 4 жыл бұрын
I would like this film 10 more times if I could. Thanks for sharing!
@fernandovalencia9967
@fernandovalencia9967 5 жыл бұрын
Very good job
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 5 жыл бұрын
thank you
@drmoynihan
@drmoynihan 3 жыл бұрын
I am a beginner using PEX and I really needed help cutting the hole and mounting the shower valve.
@ny2hi2020
@ny2hi2020 4 жыл бұрын
If you were installing a shower only valve, would it be ok to use pex up to shower head fitting since it's screwed to blocking?
@thegreekguyviva-greece5881
@thegreekguyviva-greece5881 4 жыл бұрын
Use 3/4 pex if its not uponor because uponor is larger internally than other pex. That will reduce restriction
@alexavalos76
@alexavalos76 2 жыл бұрын
question ....how do you determine how deep I need to set the shower valve if I'm going to tile my walls...
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 2 жыл бұрын
see what the manufacturer recommends in terms of depth then use your tile and backer board to ensure it’s set correctly before waterproofing the walls - this video will help Set Shower Valves to Correct Depth - #shorts kzbin.infoL-75SB4uxrw?feature=share
@alexavalos76
@alexavalos76 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRepairTutor thanks man ... New subscriber here ...
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexavalos76 🙏🏼🔥🙏🏼🔥
@zackmusic9756
@zackmusic9756 3 жыл бұрын
What size screw you use to screw into the studs to hold faucet valve
@sonofthunder.
@sonofthunder. 5 жыл бұрын
havnt seen the red stops on the crimp rings
@christopherlassitter9655
@christopherlassitter9655 Ай бұрын
Why don’t need to use copper for the spout?
@ravenstarver1360
@ravenstarver1360 Жыл бұрын
Can you turn the water on before installing the handle?
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor Жыл бұрын
Yes, but you need to install the cartridge
@buffordevans6942
@buffordevans6942 2 жыл бұрын
Would this valve be a good option if I were doing a reno and customer still needed to use water while I tile ?
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 2 жыл бұрын
Any valve with internal shutoffs would be good or if the valve is installed quickly you could be done within an hour and have water back on
@danddm3221
@danddm3221 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I hope to use PEX on my upcoming bath project. I've noticed that the ID of the 1/2" PEX is smaller than 1/2" copper. I know you use PEX a lot and you have mentioned in previous videos that you are changing your house to PEX. With any of the shower values that you guys have installed, have you noticed any draw backs with using 1/2" PEX. In my case I will be installing a posi-temp value like this one as well as a diverter for an additional wand/spray. I wondering if there would be any advantage to using 3/4" PEX to more closely match that 1/2" copper. Thanks.
@Badenhawk
@Badenhawk 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you could have gotten a response, I'm wondering the same thing.
@danddm3221
@danddm3221 4 жыл бұрын
@@Badenhawk I checked the web for similar info. Most places seemed to continue to use 1/2" PEX. My project is finished now. I would say that for the most part everything is OK. My wife would prefer a little more pressure out of the shower head. It seems to be a bit less pressure than the old shower. I'm fine with it. I'm also wondering if it has to do with that shower head being an energy saver head. It seems to be a softer pressure, but a good volume of water. Aside from the shower head, the pressure out of the side wand seems very good. Hope this helps.
@Badenhawk
@Badenhawk 4 жыл бұрын
@@danddm3221 so I ended up converting the downspout line from 1\2 to 3\4 pex and that solves my problem of the tub spout and shower head running at the same time. It was easier than I thought, just had to get 2 brass 1\2 to 3\4 couplings then I could just use a 3\4 male thread to pex line and a 3\4 drop ear. Putting all this here in case someone else in the future has an issue lol.
@danddm3221
@danddm3221 4 жыл бұрын
@@Badenhawk If you were having an issue with the shower head dripping while the tub spout is on, I believe that is a known issue. To resolve it, I think the pipe from the valve to the tub spout must be 1/2' copper (1/2" pex is too small). You would have to research it (and it may be recommend in the valve instructions). That was the only piece of copper I used in my shower system.
@Badenhawk
@Badenhawk 4 жыл бұрын
@@danddm3221 yeah, that was definitely the problem, but it works now with the 3\4 pex.
@allanmoya3738
@allanmoya3738 Жыл бұрын
Why did you skip on how to install the dumb turning knob
@KevinBurke-zn4xy
@KevinBurke-zn4xy 9 күн бұрын
The most important part of that install is the depth the valve is set at. Why wouldn’t you have gone over that?
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 Жыл бұрын
Moving back into a home that was almost completely rebuilt after a tornado (left me homeless for two years) so it has all new showers but none of them are done right. The guest shower is the only one that even partly works but there are a lot of problems there too. Heck, the problems start before you even step in with vent fans blowing to nowhere and non-locking closet doors on every bathroom! First, it looks like “Moen Caldwell 1-handle Single Function Square Shower Faucet Valve Included” with a tub spout where you pull up a plunger to divert to the shower, which works but water also comes out of the tub spout at the wall. That’s not really what this is about though. Something is badly wrong with the shower/blend valve, like maybe it’s not the right thing at all. The handle is oriented UP and flows when you turn it either way, meaning it stops in the middle. It flows cold when I turn counter-clockwise and blends hot when I turn it clockwise. The blend is backwards so it comes out full hot but then tapers off to warm as I reach the clockwise limit. What is going on back there?! I can tell they used solder without even looking because there was a big drip stuck to the tub. Whoever rebuilt this place did absolutely everything wrong and this is the only slightly usable shower. The master bathroom is also brand new and yet the shower drain appears to be full of expanding foam! …and inaccessible through the grate they installed. :( Sinks don’t drain either. Light switches are wrong. Most outlets and smoke detectors don’t work. One light switch doesn’t work unless another is on and you then can’t turn off with the other, etc, etc, etc. It’s a total nightmare, but I’m hoping you can give me some direction regarding that one shower valve so I can explain what is wrong. Big ask, I know, but thanks regardless.
@harrygill928
@harrygill928 4 жыл бұрын
Hi is it ok to attach pex pipes for all 4 sides of the valve?
@gregparker24
@gregparker24 3 жыл бұрын
DON'T USE PEX TO THE TUB SPOUT. The inner diameter of 1/2 PEX is .475 with fittings inside the pipe (adding even more constriction) and the inner diameter of 1/2 copper is .545 with female fittings on the outside of the pipe. The PEX to the tub spout might not be able to handle all of the flow, so it might overflow out the shower head when you don't have the diverter pulled up. It is ok to run PEX up to the showerhead.
@charliebronson1403
@charliebronson1403 2 жыл бұрын
How far u shove it in wall is all I need to know
@larryshipley2413
@larryshipley2413 3 жыл бұрын
Moen backwards hot and cold shower valve
@spillcanvasgirl_
@spillcanvasgirl_ 4 жыл бұрын
is the black thing on the valve performing a function?
@doneown503
@doneown503 3 жыл бұрын
for shipping protection, only.
@CGphotoOp
@CGphotoOp 4 жыл бұрын
Had a plumber install a moen valve then a couple months later I tiled the shower. I installed the shower faucet and no water comes out, what gives?? Water from the main is on.
@jdh8835
@jdh8835 3 жыл бұрын
Are the integrals turned on on the valve Check that first
@teh60
@teh60 5 жыл бұрын
That looks like the same valve I installed in my bathroom. I like the integrated shut off valves and the posi-temp anti-scalding feature. I used type L copper for all the pipes. The pex would be very versatile though.
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 5 жыл бұрын
having the anti-scald feature is great. And integrated shut offs are helpful when swapping out the cartridge. PEX definitely makes this value easy to install
@DavidKlausa
@DavidKlausa 10 ай бұрын
@@HomeRepairTutor My water heater is not hot enough to scald, so I would rather not have this in my valve. Can I take it out?
@DOuRant
@DOuRant 10 ай бұрын
​@DavidKlausa you don't have to take it out, if it is in the up position that is full hot, search Moen posi temp settings.
@fantasy6108-t7k
@fantasy6108-t7k 2 жыл бұрын
1:59 why did you solder an NTP fitting for the bottom spout? 👎 you limit the type of shower spout the customer could have.
@107087
@107087 Жыл бұрын
maybe risk a slightly longer video and run the footage at a normal fps; some folks aren't as familiar as others.
@zahrazahraa4897
@zahrazahraa4897 5 жыл бұрын
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@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 5 жыл бұрын
thank you
@zahrazahraa4897
@zahrazahraa4897 5 жыл бұрын
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@markluni4234
@markluni4234 3 жыл бұрын
What's with the fast forward? Go normal speed. I can spend the extra 10 mins to get a better understanding of the procedure.
@sbjforever
@sbjforever 4 жыл бұрын
Why in hecks name is this video run at blur speed?
@helloiambear5531
@helloiambear5531 2 жыл бұрын
I had to speed up this tutorial, definitely was going too slow
@ababner317
@ababner317 3 жыл бұрын
For a beginner watching too fast + not enough showing the basic design unable to follow it.
@ricgomez1
@ricgomez1 3 жыл бұрын
This guy talks way too fast, this tutorial is useless to someone who is trying to learn how this is done.
@FredrickLackey
@FredrickLackey 4 жыл бұрын
How is this a TIPS video for Moen? All you did is show a shower install. There was nothing specific to Moen nor any real tips on dealing with Moen.
@patricktoulze1274
@patricktoulze1274 6 ай бұрын
No help on the most important -Test a 3 way Shower valve and plumbing before closing the wall
@jacque7736
@jacque7736 6 ай бұрын
Are you in a hurry? I was here to watch carefully and relax, i had to stop watching.
@MichaelMantion
@MichaelMantion 5 жыл бұрын
U can't wait until they no longer use copper. It would be so much better as Plastic. Hopefully someone will make an all plastic valve assembly.
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 5 жыл бұрын
we really like PEX but admittedly copper or solid brass is better for the tub spout. So we always use those two metals per the Moen shower valve directions. But ya, it would be cool to have that as an option
@mattknox18
@mattknox18 5 жыл бұрын
wasn't feeling the sped up tutorial.
@HomeRepairTutor
@HomeRepairTutor 5 жыл бұрын
sorry about that, we have another Moen tutorial if you need one kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZjCkIaJrrWXp80
@dinaalhammouri8469
@dinaalhammouri8469 2 жыл бұрын
Why did u use copper pipe from the head of the shower to the valve controls water line not pex ? I have seen a lot of plumbers use pex for that part too is that wrong ? Or not preferred and why ?! Is it against code ?
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