Moff Gideon's Class 546 Cruiser COMPLETE BREAKDOWN | Imperial Remnant Arquitens Cruiser

[@jethrowu27]

Imagine if the length of this Class 546 cruiser is 546 m

[@reynard4823]

Ya know thats actully a pretty obvious but good point

[@MetaNerdzLore]

Well we have a winner folks. Lol seriously that was a cool feeling idk how none of us thought of that

[@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977]

@@MetaNerdzLore True. I did not think of that, and I basically just wrote an essay on how awesome the Arquitens was. LOL

[@terran6686]

Why would we call the Length 546 a "Class 546"? SMH my head.

[@Brosion99]

@@terran6686 lol out loud

[@FastTquick]

In Legends, Thrawn still had his ISD, the Chimera, so I don’t think it’d be out of the question for Moff Gideon to still have his own ISD, but he prefers to travel with his 546 cruiser near New Republic space so that he doesn’t draw unwanted attention.

[@MacerXGP]

He might have had to pass up using SD's entirely, even his light cruiser had to limp around with a skeleton crew, the logistical footprint of an ISD would be far too much for his available resources. Based on what we've seen he doesnt seem to be busy actually doing Moff things and appears to be 100% mission focused, which means he probably doesn't even have a sector to draw resources from and is using manpower and resources assigned to him directly by Thrawn, who wouldn't give him an ISD unless he actually needed one to do his job (meddling Jedi notwithstanding, even Thrawn has trouble planning around Mother Fucking Skywalker)

[@davidreeves4556]

@@MacerXGP it might have a skeleton crew because of the nature of his missions, he's got a platoon of dark troopers anyway

[@larniieplayz6285]

@@MacerXGP if he even works for thrawn

[@kevinkasmarski6635]

True. Very true But can we call it what it is. An arquinten

[@SupaSillyThyme]

@@MacerXGP I’m not quite sure thrawn is working with Gideon, it simply doesn’t make sense. Papa palps was gonna turn him into some blue steaks in a bit, and Gideon is likely working on the palps clone, and Gideon doesn’t seem like he has any thrawn symbol, on any of his bases, and in legends thrawn had an entirely different faction. Also also we would have gotten some hint or he would have been in some sort of fleet if they had control of such a valuable asset. Dumbest thing I’ve heard in about a couple minutes

[@matthewdragan5780]

i'm so glad that they put this ship in the mandalorian because this type of ship has been in clone wars and rebels from before so it was just a sight to behold in live action.

[@lucamm3]

Ești român?

[@jacktheflash8478]

And it’s a new variant

[@floseatyard8063]

@@lucamm3 I don't know about him but I am/ Nu stiu despre el dar eu sunt

[@julianf6034]

“It would be weird if it held less than 12” Cries in Gozanti

[@MetaNerdzLore]

Lol

[@derlasercrafterwally4342]

for such a small ship like the gozanti, 4 isn't that bad

[@Omniseed]

@@derlasercrafterwally4342 it's basically just a military light cargo vessel that's also usable as a jumpship for TIEs, rather than a dedicated TIE carrier isn't it? Only having TIEs assigned to them from rally points a jump away from their planned operation or as needed for Gozantis with some reason to carry an escort would really help rationalize having fighters on a ship that can't service them and may require pilots to brave an extravehicular climb from the Gozanti to their TIE cockpit

[@tigerbesteverything]

gozanti goes usually by three, so nothing weird here.

[@JordyZ]

And 3 Gozanti can roundly carry a whole squadron which feels like a solid strike group.

[@FireheartSamurai]

I mean Thrawn is right in all honesty. And most if not all Imperials didn’t listen to him mainly because he was an alien instead of a human. Also this variant of the Arquitens Light Cruiser looks good to.

[@mk_gamíng0609]

We have a Perfect real life example of this, Its called Over-engineering and WW2 Germany and Japan to some extent are good example of it. Mainly Bismarck and Tirpits , Both Impressive ships on paper but the fact is all they did during WW2 was sit in different areas menacing supply lanes and sadly for Germany the Royal Navy was able to fight on multiple theatres forcing the ships to be glorified sea platforms Germany could of made more Scharnhorst's witch were the actual best battleship in the German Navy Instead Hitler wanted two big ships. Its the same with The Emperor and Thrawn. Thrawn would want something like the Scharnhorst while The Emperor would go for the Bismarck

[@sorrrbet4923]

@@mk_gamíng0609 Germany's ultimate failure during the war was their over-engineering. The Panther's transmission was ultimately a failure in every way. If the driver failed to pick the correct gear for a turn, the tank would break down. If the driver failed to rev match to get into 3rd, the gear would strip totally and instantly, and the tank would break down. Replacement of the transmission had to be done behind lines and was a lengthy process, whereas the Sherman just required the front panel to be taken off, and then a new one slotted in.

[@greninjaguy5264]

Germany (and japan to a lesser extent, though to be fair they had the Yamato) had powerful vehicles, but they ruined their potential by just wasting them, ignoring them, and abusing them. Anything they did with them was a poor choice. Hmmm, kinda sounds like what a galactic Empire would do, as with a "First order." While I love overpowered ships, I also like balanced ones. They should've focused more on making and establishing balanced ones, then leading to overpowering ones to crush already weakened opposition. And this time, actually cover their weaknesses.

[@Hunter12396]

@@sorrrbet4923 That just isn't true. The claims about tank transmissions from ""history"" youtubers are just getting more and more ridiculous. The real issue later German tanks had were with the final drives, which were much easier to replace.

[@sorrrbet4923]

@@Hunter12396 Look buddy, I’ve watched multiple documentaries on this exact topic, some of which going so far as to view the internals of the gearboxes, and having seen them I must say they were ridiculously complex. I’m not discrediting your claim because that is also true, but my example of the Panther’s gearbox is still very correct, and is supported by numerous sources.

[@monday24seven61]

Most importantly it’s going to get a lego set in summer 2021

[@MetaNerdzLore]

damn didn't know that

[@lordwintertown8284]

Ohh this is jolly indeed for the amount of ships they made into sets yet the Arquitens class Light Cruiser missed out (Arquitens I, II, 543). Hmm I wonder if I swap out my Venator open fleet ensignia and colours I could try an make a clone wars era vessel.

[@masteroogway5165]

lego starwars is the best starwars

[@TheLukasStudio]

I wonder how they will incorporate the hanger and the flight-deck for under $200.

[@lucasfragoso7634]

Deadass!

[@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977]

First off, I know this is not a regular arquitens, but I want to talk about it. I honestly believe that the arquitens is the best all-round cruiser or frigate in the Star Wars galaxy. It has an all-round arc of heavy turbolasers (especially in the Republic variant). It also has very heavy shielding, and it has a small enough figure to even function as a blockade runner or a trailblazer, busting through enemy fleets and blockades. They were also much cheaper than huge capitol ships such as a Venator, Victory, or ISD. Then, you can add in the fact of starfighters. Yes, I know, none of the Republic's fighters could dock between the frontal prongs, but most of the Republic's starfighters were long-range snubfighters with hyperdrives and shields. Additionally, the Republic's starfighters were arguably the most heavily armed of all factions. Add a squadron of Y-Wings or ARC-170s to an Arquitens or two, and you've got a small task force capable of taking out an entire blockade. I have always thought that the Galactic Republic had the best navy, and I do not think that anyone could change my mind.

[@moritzk3004]

The arquitens (during the republic) didn't have a hanger, the Munificent is also a cruiser/frigate, and better in any way than the arquitens (except for firing arcs), there is literally no data to prove your point on the shielding of the arquitens, and being cheap has no influence if you can't keep it alive, you suggest to use it as an active combat ship, which it definitely isn't it is at best a support vessel, and thats also the reason why its cheap

[@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977]

@@moritzk3004 Technically speaking, the Munificent did not have a hangar either, and it was not better in any way. It was much slower and less maneuverable, and lacked the point-defense systems to deal with starfighter threats. The Arquitens, on the other hand, had powerful Quad-Turbolaser turrets that were simultaneously light enough to function effectively against enemy fighter support. It also had 4 concussion missile launcher tubes, which are a highly effective anti-capital ship weapon that could assist them greatly in taking out a slow, lumbering heavy cruiser such as a Munificent. As for your rebuke over the shielding of this over-qualified vessel, you can see at this link, starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Arquitens-class_light_cruiser , that the official Star Wars Wiki page classifies its shielding as "energy shielding layers", meaning that multiple deflector shields are arranged overlapping atop one another, a technique that creates a much stronger shield. From this, we can conclude that it had some of the strongest shielding of its time, seeing as almost no other vessels of that era had such a capability. My point about it being cheap was that, for the price of one ISD, you could build 38 Arquitens, which are much more of a match for an enemy fleet and/or blockade. As a side note, yes, they could quite easily be kept alive, as they had those layered shields as well as strong, thick armor plating. Couple that with it's powerful and varying array of weaponry, and it truly is an effective front-line combat frigate/light cruiser that could also take on support roles. It is cheap because it was truly just a good deal. It was well worth the price it was given and, in mine and many others' opinions, underpriced and overqualified at the jobs it had. :)

[@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977]

@@moritzk3004 Additionally, I addressed the fact that the Arquitens lacked a hangar. I noted for you that almost all of the Republic's front-line snubfighters carried hyperdrives capable of jumping with the Arquitens. They could also attach to the port and starboard docking rings if flying alongside is not enough for you. My point is that the Arquitens did not need a hangar, as almost all friendly fighters could just jump through hyperspace alongside it. Even if they couldn't, all of the Arquitens' other amazing features would overcompensate for that, as it was just SUCH a good all-round light cruiser/frigate/blockade runner/escort. :)

[@jclark6749]

@@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977 The munifcent had no need for pd.

[@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977]

@@jclark6749 Yes it did. Much of the Republic's naval strength came from its fighters, which, in some cases, were capable of taking out huge frigates such as the Munificent or a Recusant. If the Munificent had adequate point-defense weaponry, it could have survived much longer on the battlefield, and would be very hard for the Republic to take out.

[@boomamathics2666]

You know that’s the first time someone has actually acknowledged the bloated crew numbers and made a logical assumption as to why it was that way

[@forgilageord]

Honestly, I think it's more like the Republic ships had anemic crew numbers, rather than the Empire having bloated crew numbers. Imperial era ships are usually more or less in line with how many crew actually serve on real ships. A Nimitz-class aircraft carrier is almost exactly the same length as an Arquitens, and it has a crew of 6,012.

[@fanusobscurus]

To be fair, the republic was literally trying to have as small a military as they could, even during the clone wars. Like Forgi mentioned, Imperial crews do better match ship size compared to modern numbers. A USN Ticonderoga class cruiser is roughly half the size of an Arquintens and has a crew of 320. More likely however, its the Stormtroper. Think about it. Canonically, the Rebellion would basically pirate ships when they could. And when a boarding shuttle can carry a quarter of your ships compliment, and apear in multiple places at once, you've got problems...

[@Riceball01]

@@forgilageord While you make a good point, Republic ships must have horribly undercrewed if the Empire could stuff 7 times the number of crew into them. How do you go from 100 something crew to over 700 on the same ship unless everybody had their own quarters, down to the lowliest enlisted crewman. I can see doubling, maybe even tripling if all but the senior officers shares quarters and they do hot racking like on US attack subs. But 7 times? You're talking about adding in TARDIS tech at that point.

[@crazysilly2914]

kinda similar to how government road construction crews are always twice as large as they need to be, and 2/3 of the crew are always standing around doing nothing...

[@TheArtlessBodger]

It's been a long while since I read any of the books so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression a lot of the more mundane aspects of Republic starship were automated to some degree? This was still before the days when we're told most of the galaxy had a general disdain towards droids due to the destruction caused by the Separatist's droid army, so its possible a significant portion of the non-combat crew roles (technicians and mechanics, medical staff, cleaners, cooks, etc) in pre-imperial ships would have been given to droids and onboard computers. By the time of the Empire-onwards, those roles could have been "taken back" by organics, hence the increased crew size. As for where this new crew would be housed, its possible that discarding most of the droid crew along with their required systems would free up a bit of space for some extra crew quarters. Or it could simply be that Republic vessels either had a lot of unused space to begin with, or utilised larger components which have since shrunk in size, creating some extra space.

[@haj_there]

"They're back"

[@MetaNerdzLore]

epic line

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

“The empire, there back”

[@米空軍パイロット]

This isn't a spice dream

[@COCO-tm3gp]

“I can see the Imperial cruiser with my own eyes.”

[@JediMandalorian-c8j]

@@米空軍パイロット heading down

[@tjb0502]

I think a better term for the "TIE Launcher" would simply be "TIE Catapult"

[@shanemyers79]

I saw the catapult system as a mild nod to Battlestar Galactica, including the "down the barrel" shots of the mag accelerator. Makes perfect sense considering Katee Sackhoff..

[@awhahoo]

Kind of reminds me of the catapults on ships in WW2.

[@haminatorainz7227]

Just fire a TIE with bombs at the target

[@alicorn3924]

@@awhahoo weren't a lot of catapults on old carriers on the sides?

[@awhahoo]

@@alicorn3924 I dont think carriers back then had catapults, Im talking about the ones on cruisers and battleships. Those were on the side though, sometimes rear too

[@bluexdalek1997]

Basically, 9 minutes of lore/ships, and 4 minutes of just "Thrawn was smarter than the Empire and we know it."

[@micaiahfonken]

I'm ok with that

[@Enigma75614]

@Completely depressed Shoretrooper The Geonosians created the Death Star, not Palpatine.

[@TheSlamburger]

Well he was.

[@TheSlamburger]

To be fair, the only times he really lost was through ridiculous Deus Ex Machina and/or Jedi space wizard force bullshittery.

[@Enigma75614]

@GrantKP Except he won countless battles in the Thrawn books.

[@Peeper1111]

11:33 A reason for this "inconsistency" could be, that the tie-fighters were just bigger. This would make sense, since this is a new model of fighter (folding wings) and we know from canon, that Thrawn prefers fighters more like the tie-defender. But since these ships would be to expensive he instead opted for a less powerful and less expensive version. Love your content btw.

[@crazysilly2914]

I think with both the arqueteins and class 546, there may have been different size variants. Maybe they have giant space "3d printers" to make the ships, and all they have to do is type in some code and the machine can make a larger, or smaller version with ease...

[@amandajas6287]

Given that in real life a flagship is simply whatever ship an admiral operates out of, and they often take smaller, speedier ships with powerful communications suites as their flagships, I think this ship makes perfect sense for him. It's functional, probably fairly swift, and definitely easier to maintain and crew than something like an ISD, making it perfect for Gideon's purposes.

[@NewtypeCommander]

In addition, command ships tend to be a little bit bigger than their smaller counterparts. Case in point: compare the size and displacement of both the Myoko-class and the Takao-class heavy cruisers of the IJN, and you will see that the latter ships are heavier in order to fit an enhanced communications array and a bigger bridge for command staff.

[@amandajas6287]

@@NewtypeCommander That's a very good point. The idea that he would have a smaller ship, but that's more specialized that the standard version, makes a lot of sense.

[@Toon_Lucario]

This cruiser would actually be really useful for combat. Like imagine if it was a more powerful ship than a tie fighter like an A-wing or V-wing firing out towards an enemy ship and quickly lighting up fighters

[@MetaNerdzLore]

yeah I think more starfighter focus would be great visuals for shows/games/movies but also more practical, and would fit a thrawn appearance

[@quantum.starhop]

@@MetaNerdzLore Basically an armored fighter dispenser

[@Dreaddeamon]

just the Tie defender that would have been insane.

[@jg14gerhard_bar]

@@Dreaddeamon at least 20 regular ties seems like capacity .but i'd like to think maybe 4 Tie defender Elites to launch out the sides and 10 or so Tie interceptors with shields that can be launched out the tube. and likely 2 Tie bombers for a solid strike force

[@Dreaddeamon]

@@jg14gerhard_bar I agree with you, a few tie bomers would do it great to a tie lander even, but to be fair a few elites would have also made it a far bigger threat.

[@gunznblades3547]

The whole TIE Fighter rail gun launcher thing reminds me a lot of how you tend to see Mobile Suits launching in Gundam shows and I love it for that definitely.

[@benharding5727]

the most important aspect of the dark troopers are the specialist units mounted with boom boxes to play their theme tune

[@thematrixoflife]

Gideon having a bigger fleet hidden away, no. Thrawn having a bigger fleet hidden away, HELL YEAH!!

[@EarlTheWhiteNinja]

Bro they should totally bring Thrawn in as the New bad guy for the mandolorian. That'd be completely badass

[@swstopmotions4390]

@@EarlTheWhiteNinja he will be the big bad in the Ashoka show

[@andrewmartin2567]

I would love to hear your in-depth opinion on EC Henry’s ship designs and lore especially his imp. Nebulan-B design. Maybe you guys could have a long form unscripted collaboration/ discussion on Star Wars ship design. I would definitely watch something like that.

[@dylanwight5764]

"A railgun that shoots out TIE fighters" YES

[@techticianlarsproductions6180]

This ship is literally how I would have upgraded the Arquitens which is already my favorite

[@matthewdragan5780]

dose anybody else want to see moff gideon in BAD BATCH and see his rise in the ranks?

[@MetaNerdzLore]

damn interesting point

[@darthknightwingphoenix2081]

that would be AWESOME

[@TheArtlessBodger]

Honestly, no. The galaxy is supposed to be a huge place and the Emperor's army was once described as "infinite", so I'm fine with not having every character linked together by some star wars equivalent of a Bacon Number. Yes, by all means give him a backstory and a character arc but don't twist everything in a knot trying to join stories together.

[@herofan4617]

I want to see him, but mostly because he had a cute comms officer and I would like to see her again.

[@Olivesandeggs]

@@herofan4617 damn simp.....but true

[@daneswanberg1321]

Perhaps it has a ventral cannon, but's attached to a Hardpoint that can extend or retract into the hull during flight or Hyperspace?

[@anjalusadultceremony3864]

looking at a scale this is larger than the regular arquitens class. 600 - 700 m. Its probably the moffs baby flagship as it looks custom. in fleet battles he uses his main flagship ISD but when traveling or just doing regular stuff this is his baby.

[@kevintang2605]

Alright, hear me out. The Class 546 cruiser was a early prototype of sorts to replace the Arquintens class, but few were completed before the fall of the Empire at Endor. Moff Gideon’s ship was probably one of those that was used as a prototype or test vehicle (with that giant turbolaser cannon), but he repurposed it for his own use as his own flagship.

[@bazanime]

I suppose another theory why the ship was so sparse of troopers when "The Rescue" happened was that at least 2 squads were destroyed on Typhon in "The Tragedy" episode. They may not have had a chance to get new replacement troopers.

[@Nickgmentavlos]

That’s so true I forgot about that! And I don’t think they took the whole ship it seems that they only about 30% of the ship so there could be more storm troopers on board sense the ship is so big

[@Klipik12]

Sounds like we need an official "Ships of the Mandalorian" source book.

[@falinrichard1394]

And other vehicles. I would love to know specs of those rhydonium transporting Juggernauts from Morak. Sorry for necro, btw.

[@jeffersonwang4369]

this cruiser's launch tube is perfect for Thrawn's catapult tactic.

[@TechNinjaSigma]

That Rail Gun is so cool! this is definitely a ship i'd like.

[@corviniago6456]

Wouldn't it be simpler for it to just be a reverse tractor beam?

[@greninjaguy5264]

As in the words of Director Krennic: "Oh It's beautiful."

[@alem1655]

The Return of the King Also, keep up the amazing work!

[@Niusereset]

I find it strange how much the ship si looking similar to Arquitens cruiser, despite it is much bigger... But at the same time I like the Arquitens cruisers. And who knows, perhaps the next Mandalorian season will give us canon Victory-class stardestroyer.

[@glennlaroche1524]

K imo the TIE-launcher was an Easter egg for BSG fans, frack's sake-------Katee Sackhoff was in the episode, after all.........

[@branboy9936]

It could be gundam easter egg

[@jiriseidl4376]

Yeah, it gives of distinct viper vibes

[@shanemyers79]

@@jiriseidl4376 Totally agree, the "down the barrel" shots showing the TIE emerge are totally reminiscent of Vipers launching from the Galactica, and I totally thought it was a nod to Katee Sackhoff. Time for another rewatch!

[@squidwardtortellini2827]

The arquitons class is hands down my favorite ship.

[@tetsuonikurogane4375]

Fun fact: Moff Gideon's ship isn't CGI. It's an actual practical prop ship model kinda like how Lucasfilm did when making the Razor Crest.

[@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775]

I think that the size of this ship is that it is slightly bigger, but not the 650 meters as suggested. Once you get to that size of +600 meters instead of the 350 meters you have extra room for additional guns/firepower instead of its past predecessor models (which you don't see). I can blame the scaling issues when they were making it for the live action, but to be fair, the Mandalorian did a wonderful job on the vessel regardless.

[@sweatzio5965]

Man i've been a fan of your channel and content for a long time and i'm giving you all the props i can man! I also can't get over the music you've been using in the background and i've always wondered what it is lol, but you've made another amazing video and i have to thank your for helping me learn so much about my favorite franchise so thank you

[@MetaNerdzLore]

Hey thanks that is awesome to hear. And the music is called summertime madness but its from a stock music company premium beats

[@jordanjensen2514]

In the one episode with the Gozonti they talked about a fleet which implies more than one ship.

[@bearco.propertymaintenance6399]

Love the fact that you do accurate size comparisons and question facts when most would just go with the first thing they see. Don't think I'm alone on this but would like to hear the sizes in feet as well as meters. As always keep up the great work. Love the channel.

[@CT-Clone]

My nickname for this type is Arquitens Titanicus class. Uncreative i know 😅

[@giovannirodriguesdasilva646]

It's like victory and Imperial, even design, one is 900m the other 1600, the empire likes to increase the size of the ships

[@ozaru90]

Still more creative than what I was calling it before this official class name came out. I was just calling it an Arquitens II-class Cruiser. Like how the Imperial-class SD's upgrade was just called the Imperial II-class SD.

[@crazysilly2914]

@@giovannirodriguesdasilva646 I think with both the arqueteins and class 546, there may have been different size variants. Maybe they have giant space "3d printers" to make the ships, and all they have to do is type in some code and the machine can make a larger, or smaller version with ease...

[@fan_srpelo]

@@crazysilly2914 yeah sure,stop spamming the same comment in anyone that comments something that is clear ( 546 being larger that arquitens)

[@medicman1118]

The new character videos are amazing, but I always loved your vehicle stuff. Keep up the good work!

[@cryptosporidium1375]

I believe it is a repulsor catapult akin to an aircraft carrier’s rope catapult.

[@leonardusrakapradayan2253]

steam catapult not rope.

[@paulg5287]

Looks like a Gundam style electromagnetic catapult, though without the holographic guide lights projected out of the ship.

[@kennethferland5579]

Yes it is completely inappropriate to call it a rail-gun. First off it's not a GUN because it's not a weapon in it's own right, and it's not on a rail because it's not using Lorentz force across an armature to accelerate something. In other words railguns require direct contact between the rail and the fired object while the "Gundam tunnel of lights" do not, which means that even if they are electromagnetic they ae operating on different principles more like that of a mag-lev train, aka linear induction motors.

[@Armageist]

11:42 - Unlike other youtubers that just chalk it up to being a different/larger Ship, I'm glad you actually address the GLARING issue of the Lambda class w/wings up vs the TIE width between the pylons as it shoots out. Totally inaccurate inconsistencies not surprising when it comes to Star Wars in general as usual. From the Executor size varying, along with the oversized Tower (it's NOT the same size as a Imperator/Imperial) Tower, contrary to what everyone always posts, even if the model used in relation to a SD reflects as much, when you can even see the bridge protrusion itself is smaller in relation to the tower vs an imperial II), to the Eclipse and DeathStar II, and even to the enlarged Imp 1 Xyston Class. Great video.

[@jaxwise7288]

"3 birds with 1 force choke" the best say to put it

[@dylanwight5764]

Star Wars sources have never been hugely consistent on scale, so if the 546-Class turns out to technically be a purpose-built variant rather than a refit (in shipbuilding terms, this is often called a batch or flight; warships famous for being subject to this approach include the British C-Class light "scout" cruisers such as HMS Caroline, and the US Arleigh Burke-Class guided missile destroyers), it _may as well be_ an Arquitens in all but name. The fact is, this ship _looks_ like an Arquitens and the scale is _mostly_ right for it to be a live action Arquitens (animated ships often seem smaller than their canon dimensions) so as long as Disney doesn't try to play the "look, it's not a recycled ISD model asset! We've given it another name! It's not the same ship!" crap they did with the... Typhon? Whatever the hell that thing in Rise of Skywalker was... I think we'll be fine. It's an Arquitens variant or near enough that it makes no difference. Call it what you like. We all know this ILM miniature is based directly off the Arquitens renders.

[@datastorm75]

When the tie fighter launched, I always heard the launch sound effect from original Battlestar Galactica.

[@christopherwieber783]

Dude I absolutely love your detailed breakdowns. Thank you!

[@tysonas1]

Concerning the Shuttle size, I compared chapter 16 where the girl gang exits to the scene in Return where Palpatine disembarks, both ramps appear to be three meters in width therefore they are both very close in size. I noticed one other confusing aspect, the hangar bay where Luke’s X-Wing lands is smaller than the port/starboard bays where the Dark Troopers entered. The only option is in the rear of the wedge hull where it angles back to the rear connector dorsal there seems to be a recess on opposite sides roughly 2-3 decks in height based on window lighting in this recess seen in some shots, can anyone verify this or am I over analyzing. Furthermore the trooper who falls off the catwalk goes straight down into space but from the shot where the Dark Troopers enter the hangar, the opening is vertical not horizontal and then after entering they go up into the interior to a catwalk. This to me is extremely confusing as to where this bottom horizontal opening is because I don’t see any from the exterior shots.

[@Nickgmentavlos]

I know! I hope someone answers this I’ve had the same question sense the final

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

This is A Design based on the Sequel trilogy concept , so yeah , no one knows what the actual space wizard middle finger is going on here

[@tysonas1]

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 😂

[@battlefieldcustoms873]

that scene with the troopers and the mortars made me so happy. not often you seen ground combat shown on screen without some main stream actor

[@otavio8566]

Not sure why the size comparisons are always done with other ships instead of the bridge windows and characters sizes, which would present a more accurate depiction the ships actual size

[@adamsosna7263]

Because the ships in close proximity are in one shot and have canon sizes, bridge shots probably wouldn't work properly because they are not intended to be super in scale and then we have just a small portion of the bridge, we rarely see singular windows from space perspective, and the bridge part isn't 100% of the bridge superstructure. So there are a lot more problems with that method.

[@otavio8566]

@@adamsosna7263 but bridge shots are the most reliable way to get a measure, they are the best reference for proper proportions since they ease the use of actual human sizes. That method is the proper waybto get the measure, the other methods are just dwelling on the same mistake, making them just as unreliable and wrong

[@Nickgmentavlos]

I’ve been waiting a long time for this!

[@charlieasher8707]

Keep up the good work.

[@spartangaming1352]

First time we’ve seen a fighter catapult in Star Wars. loving the approach to realism

[@mrantmr6782]

Love this ship! If I was imperial remnant warlord I think I vould prefer fleet consisted of: 1x class 546 (as flag ship) 2x arquintens Maybe some lancers

[@skyden24195]

I have two clues towards a speculation on the Lambda size vs. TIE size. 1: We aren't shown the TIE actually in the tunnel, as we do the Lambda; we're only given a point of view from inside the cockpit, so the tunnel is going to seem tighter from that position as it does in real life, i.e., things seem tighter around you when you're inside your car than looking at it from the outside. 2: When the TIE passes right by the Lambda after it exits the cruiser, the TIE is, in my opinion, noticeably larger. TIE's did start to change significantly after Endor.... looking at "Force Awakens" there is a TIE with a rear gunner position. Also, remember Gideon's TIE had folding wings for landing. It is totally possible that the TIE's were larger, perhaps to accommodate hyperdrives, life-support systems, firepower, etc. That's my speculation: larger Twin Ion Engine, elite, next generation, in space superiority fighters.

[@你的妈妈-s7d]

For the issue of size, maybe the ties with the folding wings are bigger

[@你的妈妈-s7d]

Outlander tie

[@Straswa]

Great vid MetaNerdz! Such a fascinating ship, much cooler than an ISD imo.

[@18videowatcher41]

This ship is awesome and would be just as useful for the Empire as it is the Imperial Remnant. Especially if the Empire hadn’t been so obsessed with big ships, super weapons, and ruling through fear and intimidation. Not only would they have done better in the Galactic Civil War has they adopted Thrawn’s policies, but they would have intimidated people just as much through the sheer effectiveness of their military.

[@gawainethefirst]

I love the “launch tube” reference in the episode where Katie Sackhoff (Starbuck II) was a central guest star.

[@TheWuffball]

"A railgun that shoots out TIE fighters" 10/10

[@jagreb]

I hope this ship remains prominent throughout the Mandalorian series. One of the coolest designs in the entire SW saga.

[@kdurden]

Just finished Rebels, and love this ship! Can't wait for the Lego set this summer!

[@L-Archange]

Nice job on the like:dislike ratio! Keep up the good work

[@joewhittaker9961]

"Railgun that shoots out TIE fighters"... goddamn XD

[@peterson7082]

Ammo for your blasters? No pilot, you ARE the ammo.

[@kevintang2605]

More like a catapult system, like the one on aircraft carriers.

[@leiziru9642]

BSG intensifies

[@18videowatcher41]

I agree with Thrawn that it's better to have a more mobile and versatile fleet, but I think that with some modification, a battlestation like the Death Star could make for a useful FOB (Forward Operating Base). Fix the thermal exhaust port vulnerability, give it better anti-starfighter defenses and interdiction capabilities, make it faster in both hyperspace and realspace, make it able to process materials and construct new ships and vehicles like the World Devastators and the Supremacy, and give it a less powerful secondary superlaser like that of the Eclipse SSD for destroying enemy capital ships, and targeted elimination planetary surface areas. Please feel free to comment with any other features you think would be useful to a battlestation geared to operating as a mobile base.

[@dagur500]

All we need now, is an actual name. Cause I ain’t calling it Numbers

[@chrono2959]

That's crazy I just watched another video on the breakdown of the ship by another KZbinr and I had the thought I wonder if you had made a video about this ship yet and then here it is

[@BoisegangGaming]

My guess is that "Class-546" is some sort of internal or spec ops designation for the ship.

[@clonewarsproductions9664]

This might be late but at the back of the ship near the engines it looks like there’s a canon tucked up. It is seen at 4:49 in the video.

[@MaxWelton]

“Maybe Gideon sent the encrypted message to the cloners’ homeworld of Kamino” *Sad Bad Batch noises*

[@MetaNerdzLore]

lol. But I do still think there is a thriving hidden Kaminoan society on kamino, that what was lost was they showed to the galaxy. Omega mentioned other spots, and the fact that they show us some spots that nobody knew about I think was to show that there could be a lot more hidden

[@backtothefutureman1]

@@MetaNerdzLore that is a good possibility.

[@Ct-mn2bv]

Hey I spotted something:you are a awesome KZbinr and make the best vids

[@madrabbit9007]

This could be a "destroyer leader." In WWII the British like to build super sized destroyers as a flag ship to a squadron of standard destroyers. It could be this ship is intended to lead a squadron of Arquitens. Some of the British destroyer leaders almost qualified as light cruisers of their day. With ships being hard to come by, you can't send a Star Destroyer to command an operation so a 546 would fit the role nicely.

[@6038am]

I would say it is more akind to the Town class light cruiser. They where buildt as larger light cruisers, about the size of heavy cruisers but with light cruiser guns.

[@madrabbit9007]

@@6038am I think we are in the same ballpark. Heavier than standard of the class to act as a command and control ship of similar units. Such a ship would fit with Tharwn’s way of thinking.

[@6038am]

@@madrabbit9007 Ture, i was just being a bit nitpicking. DD leaders normaly was buildt to have things like room for flag officers, kitchens and other things that normal DD's did't have. But that varied from nation to nation as was more of a early to mid war issue, as standard DD's got bigger late war dedicated DD leaders where not needet and that role went to light cruisers if needet.

[@semionion]

The Star Fighter/Tie Railgun is a great idea, imagine your some Rebel pilot, you see a un escorted cruiser, a easy target, next thing you know one fighter is out at ridiculous speeds, then another, then another...

[@robhappe853]

"This vessel is more than enough to defeat and opposition they would face." Literally taken down by a crew of 6

[@samueladams2080]

Plot armor is stronger than steel

[@robhappe853]

@@samueladams2080 stronger than beskar**

[@Tahkaullus01]

Look the Force is biased, alright?

[@NomadX7]

Amazing info! Thanks! One of the best starships outhere!

[@theBoenich]

hope this ship comes back in season 3. with mando amor ,mando weapons and mando paintjob.

[@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977]

I would honestly want them to keep it the same. It is already a beast of a ship with a perfect paint job: Imperial Gray. Additionally, I do not believe that they would take it into their own personal possession. They do not have the number of people to even maintain the entire ship, fly it, operate weapons, operate TIEs, or keep it in working order, let alone all at the same time. Also, it attracts too much attention for a bounty hunter. Your target will almost surely notice you if your ship is 650 meters long. That is why ships like that were often taken in by pirates, as many pirate groups have the manpower to operate one and they do not need stealth. However, I think it would be really cool to see the Mandalorian and his crew commanding it.

[@theBoenich]

@@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977 yes i didn't mean Din should own the ship, but Bo katan. who use it as a base to recapture Mandalor. i already have an episode in my head in which everyone is flying to a mando shipyard in exile. Din gets a new ship there and goes away and only much later does the 546 cruiser reappear, completely upgraded

[@GalacticRepublic_CT-1977]

@@theBoenich Sounds like a good idea.

[@smeagollumartin]

Seeing new variants of imperial ships from rebels in live action has been awesome. I'm a Gozanti guy myself...

[@scottbraun2457]

Even if it was the bad guy's ship, it is cool factor fitting.

[@bloedorn_de]

This is my favorite Cruiser in the Star Wars Universe as of now. I would much rather serve on one of these than an Imperial-II class Star Destroyer at the height of the Empire, or during its remnants.

[@cardinalchaos2278]

I’ve got a quick request Meta. Do you think you could talk about the C-ROC Gozanti Class Light Cruiser? It’s a modified variant of the regular Gozanti with different stats and I personally really like the ship.

[@awesomeness1941]

@MetaNerdz Lore I can explain the shots fired from this class. They fired only half of turret and thus redirected the firepower of 4 bolts into 2

[@Obiwan7100]

Another nice video

[@nickvonemigrate]

Hello there

[@nickvonemigrate]

Double high ground

[@kairosboxes9307]

Love your videos!

[@MetaNerdzLore]

thanks I'll keep em coming!

[@donutdude5672]

It actually looks like there is a pretty heavy Turbolaser on the back of the underside

[@TheJedaiHero9000]

MOST DEFINITELY liked and enjoyed watching this vid of Moff Gideon's ship!!!!! I really like that Railgun/Fighter Launcher idea.

[@PaiSAMSEN]

5:47 Hmm, that look familiar.... "Core system transferring control to probe craft. Launch when ready" That aside, this is one of the big oof on The Mandalorian. I could excuse such size discrepancy back in the age where every scene was shot through physical models, but in the era where CGI is very commonplace, this leave quite a bad taste, which is pretty jarring since the rest of the show is pretty well made.

[@jonathansullivan6706]

More Gordon's cruiser is, in fact, a physical model. That being said, the size discrepancies are still infuriating.

[@Brix_H]

My favourite ship in Star Wars Armada. Add in turbolaser circuits and concentrate fire... They really do a lot of damage despite being rated as a small vessel.

[@Jesse12489]

The Arquitens looks like hybrid of Kuat Drive and Corelians ships. Like the back side looks Corellian while the front looks like Kuat.

[@InventorZahran]

The rear end and engines are literally the same as those of the Consular-class cruiser (made by Corellian Engineering Corporation). Maybe upscaled, but very similar. In fact, the Arquitens was probably conceived when some model maker took the engines of a Consular-class, stuck them onto the back of a smaller-scale Star Destroyer prop, and said "there. That's our 'new' ship design".

[@rashiqspencer6925]

He's back The Metanerdz Emperor is back

[@mitchellhayward6492]

Seriously, why do Imperial ship interiors have to be so dark? I get that they're "bad guys", but in the original movies they had *much* better lighting.

[@Skavier-le5cw]

Dude, you got any idea the energy bill that comes from running a galaxy spanning fleet? Gotta keep em costs down to help make more ties.

[@TheArthoron]

The creators changed the scale of the cruisers to fit the plot devices they created for the episode. Namely the Homage to Battlestar Galactica for Katie Sackhoff with the Launch Tube scene and the Lambda Shuttle landing which was almost shot for shot a scene of Starbuck landing hot in the Pilot Episode.

[@zacharysmith271]

You got a new mic... it sounds good

[@MetaNerdzLore]

damn thanks I was hoping for a comment on the audio. It isn't a new mic, though I am looking into one, but I did some more editing to it

[@zacharysmith271]

@@MetaNerdzLore really? I have been following you for years... this audio was smooth. Good job on it.

[@Werrf1]

We do know that the ship was under-manned; early in Ch 16 Bo-Katan says "In the old days it would carry a crew of several hundred. Now it operates with a tiny fraction of that."

[@demanischaffer]

It sort of reminds me of the Providence class how the CIS had different sizes of the same type

[@InventorZahran]

And the Recusant-class, and the two sizes of Octuptarra droids, and the needlessly upscaled ISD's in Rise of Skywoker... At this point, I'm starting to believe that these in-universe explanations of "there were two different sizes of the same exact ship" were created just to legitimize animators' inconsistant portrayals of the vessels in various scenes. If the Art Department were paying attention to things and made sure to get the sizes right every time, this wouldn't be an issue!

[@ravneiv]

Thanks, I always thought there was something screwed with the scaling of these. It's supposedly the same frame of the Consular (cruiser but really a corvette size [115m]) and Gozanti (light cruiser but really a small corvette size [64m]). Arquitens at 325m is a light-cruiser I guess, but I'd say more of a frigate size. The 546 being closer to 600m fits a lot better with the size depicted on screen (interior and the shuttle fitting.) and is a proper light-cruiser size. Ship classes make no sense in Star Wars and are just arbitrarily assigned.

[@nickvinsable3798]

I personally believe that Gideon gutted & dismantlement his Star Destroyers, upgraded/enlarged his Arquitens, and now his Imperial Star Destroyers look more like the Kuat Drive Yards’ version of those Rebel Transports first seen on the silver screen fleeing Hoth & such… This could explain why Gideon could’ve had some left over Imperial assets that he was ordered to keep from non-Imperials & such…

[@thelaststormtrooper4326]

Because selling assets you can’t use & using the funds to upgrade & buy assets you can is just too easy huh..? His ISD is probably guarding HQ, knowing that if the NR hear about a marauding ISD they will investigate.. Just because you have, doesn’t mean you need to cruise around in, when you have capable smaller vessels, that can defeat local resistance & bug out before the NR space cops can call backup.. He’s a warlord, he needs power to stay in control, ISDs are imperial power symbols, just have to be smart with them, they require a lot of assets to use & you can’t afford to lose them.

[@nickvinsable3798]

No, more like he was following a secret set of instructions and if he didn’t comply, [Sidious] would’ve killed him & such, @@thelaststormtrooper4326. P.S. I’d like to see my suggested ‘Star Destroyer’ ! ! !

[@flamebreaker7318]

@@thelaststormtrooper4326 his isd is most likely landed somewhere waiting until the perfect moment to strike cause an isd ain’t an easy thing to hide

[@MaxWelton]

Kill 3 birds with 1 Force Choke Your humor is compounded by your relaxing monotone. Keep doing what you’re doing

[@moffgideon5261]

You know too much, dark troopers have been deployed to your location

[@Nickgmentavlos]

“Moff Gideon you have something I want you may have some idea of what you are in possession of but you do not soon he will be back with me”

[@Panzerfanlol]

That was a very nice transition. 0:28

[@ncc74656m]

He needs a bigger fleet elsewhere, and we need to meet Isard.

[@dc-4ever201]

I think it's definitely much larger than the Arquitens given how many Ties it holds. You would think the Lambda class scaling issue would have been looked at, why not simply widen the ship to accommodate a shuttle bay capable of taking Lambda size shuttles? Or they can say the Lambda has a smaller variant as you said for shorter range duties. That Lambda definitely looks smaller than the one used by Vader and the Emperor, I suspect because the larger one will have quarters for the VIP, you can't have them slumming it with the crew afterall. I love the design, but think they could have reduced the launch tube length a bit to gain more hanger space, Ties could have been held in two horizontal racks of 6 one off to each side with them facing one another where the pilots get in from above as we saw in Rebels, then as they approach the first one on each side is rotated 90 degrees to face launch area each one is then moved to launch position and launched like a magazine on a rifle. Or a deeper bay with two racks of 3 per side.