Mom on Gender Ideology: "It Almost DETERRED ME From Having Kids."

[@drpeterboghossian]

If you missed the last video with Dr. Colin Wright and Billboard Chris, catch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaWYiaOojLStrJY

[@wretchedrabbit]

heres an argument to use... women who have not had children (possibly a specific number of children) are refused having their tubes tied until a mid 20s if i remember correctly. why should the reproductive abilities of other people be damaged for transgenderism (Gender Dysphoria or Autogynephilia). the trans movement is a sterilization/population control campaign.

[@pdxnikki1]

I'm a therapist working autistic kids. I chose not to retire cuz they're transing them. Someone must be the moral anchor. Have lots of kids cuz the world needs them. Good parents with hope to raise good people who can be good in the world to better it.

[@Grimm_Butterfly]

Im an autistic cross dresser born in 1992. Please continue to help. Thank you.

[@breakthecycle5238]

What therapist says 'cuz' Go to bed, little Timmy.

[@TinnyDee]

​@@breakthecycle5238what does a certain vp canidate say? " Mind your own business "

[@Grimm_Butterfly]

@breakthecycle5238 the VIP of the company I work for can't spell the difference between their, there, and theyre.

[@breakthecycle5238]

@@Grimm_Butterfly Idiocracy is a documentary directed by Mike Judge

[@vonnie0_0]

When I was growing up I felt out of place. I was a tomboy, hated dresses, played in dirt, loved sports, hung out with boys, all that stuff. I even said to my mom once “I want to be a boy.” and her response? “Honey, you’re perfect the way you are.” I never realized until now how blessed and fortunate I was to have someone who supported me in a way that was healthy and grounded in reality. If my mother affirmed how I felt then, right out the gate, I probably wouldn’t be here now writing this comment. It’s scary that facts and logic are thrown to the side for the sake of an ideology, and who pays for it the most? Kids.

[@doid4354]

At about it age 11 I told my mom I wanted my hair cut short. She asked me why I wanted to look like a boy. I got mad and said the haircut doesn’t even look boyish it was cute and I was sick of long hair (literally just a short bob). Eventually she let me and she agreed the style was cute. Later when I was 13, I told my mom that I wanted to get more boy’s pants. She was uncomfortable and said that wasn’t necessary. I said “Mom, I want functional pockets.” She understood after that lol. Im 23 now and still pretty tomboy-ish. Never denied my female nature, just more comfortable when Im not wearing a “woman costume.” I just feel unnatural in makeup and super feminine clothing

[@DorianPaige00]

Did you want to walk around with a swinging dick? If not, you weren't transgender and were only weighing and thinking how nice it would be to dream. In music, we call this counterpoint.

[@DorianPaige00]

@@doid4354 Keep arguing and you'll make the case that being a gender non-conformer influences people to transition. They'll blame you for it as well and you'll get all the hate. Most of the people who are now chased out of the women's room are natal women who don't conform or have PCOS or are tall. Remember it's your fault!

[@satiricgames2129]

Same same same

[@LisaMatthews-qs7le]

As a young teenager I hated having large breasts and was very very uncomfortable with being a woman and having men stare at my body parts. It’s a natural part of going through puberty and adjusting to your new place in the world. Then of course you reach the age when men stop looking at you and that’s destabilising as well for a few years as you again need to readjust to your place in the world

[@zulucharlie5244]

It's nice to see sane parents. Chris had the right advice to them: have more babies. The world needs more people who are raised by smart, loving parents.

[@billmurray4071]

100%

[@sparee8822]

To clarify before I make my reply: It’s important to have the choice to have kids and we should never restrict it or take it away, I’m on your side on this. However: I disagree with the statement said in your comment. Having more children improves the population in quantity but having more kids is not stable for most Americans. Depending on house pricing, needs, and other things: it’s harder to meet expenses if we follow the goal of having more kids in the house. A family structure needs a stronger financial security first. I know I sound like I’m against having more kids being smart, I think the idea of having more kids is noble but impulse

[@TinnyDee]

​@sparee8822 People have been raising good children with good parenting skills for centuries despite economics. There are considerly more influential aspects to good (or bad) parenting.

[@sparee8822]

⁠​⁠@@TinnyDeeYes, parenting skills matter but what about expenses to fund their child’s happiness and experience in life? If you want to convince people to have more kids, there has to be some economic incentive to do that unfortunately. Our post-capitalist world makes people devote time to what is profitable to people. This is not a condemnation to have kids but I present a example or explanation of why it happens

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Y'all are doing a very good and important thing. Billboard Chris sounds level-headed and sane and quite compassionate. Whenever he speaks about letting tomboys and more effeminate boys be themselves, letting them enjoy life until at least they're 18, I dunno, it is deeply touching. If anything, we need to show more Love to individuals being themselves in their quirkiness and personalities and expressions, then after they're 18 they can assess, if need be, where and who they are. Rather than insisting that a tomboy is really a boy in the wrong body. The silver lining, IMHO, to the trans-activist ideological extremism going on is that Society can mature through being more nuanced and embracing of differences in girls and boys ( who are still female and male according to sex ).

[@DorianPaige00]

No, once the gender medicine is out of the way and the adult patients are permanently institutionalized, the ire will be on gender non-conformers and homosexuals and even feminists. They'll be blamed for allowing "transgenderism" and then there rights will get curtailed. Jordan Peterson has said the social experiment of men and women working together in the workforce needs to wind down but they are smart and that they'll use the homosexuals to push out the transgenders. It's called "playing the factions". When it comes down to you if you are slightly off-color, there might not be anyone here to defend you and quite frankly you don't deserve defending.

[@josecruzastol1197]

This was the absolute best advice given to those folks and I'm glad for their acknowledgement ❤❤🎉

[@gregoryreynolds3612]

LOL, had to check your pfp and when you joined at first. The sex bots leave comments exactly like yours.

[@AndyJarman]

There's huge peer pressure to conform with your peer group. This lasts up until you've moved away from your full time education institute and formed new circles of friends who are living as adults. For me that wasn't until I left university and had to support myself in full time employment. That was 25 years.

[@DorianPaige00]

Most peer groups beat up LGBT. I'm male and was taken out of the male bathroom and thrown in a garbage can.

[@TinnyDee]

​@@DorianPaige00 my peer group didn't and most other peer groups I knew didn't. You're expressing bullies which have their own group. Don't generalize it's disingenuous.

[@DorianPaige00]

@@TinnyDee Nobody talked to me or would sit with me at lunch in 10th-11th grade. No one. Chris pitches this narrative that todays' culture says everyone thinks it's cool to be trans or gay. More young people today are socially conservative when compared to prior generations thanks to radical far-right networks like Q, X, and Fox. We now have a Supreme Court where at least three want Lawrence overturned which will allow for imprisonment and execution of gay people for consensual relations between adults. Gender medicine now has been banned in a majority of States and a majority of patients who once had care have now lost access to care. Furthermore LGBT panic defenses are still allowed which justifies homicide legally and conflates it with self defense.

[@dafunkmonster]

@@DorianPaige00 "Most" Don't make shit up. "I'm male and was taken out of the male bathroom and thrown in a garbage can." Congrats. I'm a straight male, and I got beat up in school, too. That doesn't mean "most peer groups beat up straight males". Lol

[@joge2468]

I’d like to hear far more discussion about the repercussions for female-to-male “transitions”, which mimic those of early menopause. We are creating an entire cohort of women who will die early from heart disease, develop early-onset dementia, and suffer decades of incontinence. The effects for m-to-f aren’t nearly as devastating long term.

[@baconsarny-geddon8298]

Both are devastating, and unacceptable. What's being done to girls is horriific, with 100% needless mastectomies advertised on teen-focussed apps like Tiktok, by predatory surgeons, using ads filled with Spomgebob memes and Harry Potter references. But there's also boys as young as 16 being surgically castrated, for no evidence-based reason. To dismiss these cases as "not as bad as the girls" is just callous. The harm being done to NEITHER sex should be dismissed or downplayed. It's harmful, pointless, but also 100% subjective and arbitrary, to claim that it's worse to chemically/surgically mutilate one sex, or the other. It's not a competition. BOTH sexes of children have an absolute rght to be protected from needless mutilation, REGARDLESS of the extent of mutilation. There IS NO acceptable amount of mutilation, for a perfectly healthy child of EITHER sex. And dismissing/downplaying ANY amount of child mutilation is a morally bankrupt position, no matter which sex you 're talking about.

[@Puzzlesocks]

​@@baconsarny-geddon8298 Not to say I disagree with anything you said, but what about circumcision? A practice long since banned in women, but still acceptable and even pushed by some in males today. There has always been a divide, and people just care about men less. If this never became a feminist issue, this whole topic would still be swept under the rug. For better or worse, the US is the kind of place that will ban the sale of raw milk because a couple dozen people get sick (more like big dairy doesn't want competition), but will completely ignore gross injustices like medical malpractice against thousands of kids. You just have to look at the profits to understand why things happen a lot of the time.

[@PWMoze]

More excellent content from your Lisbon discussion sessions. I look forward to when you're next in London.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thank you!

[@satiricgames2129]

​@@drpeterboghossianhave you been to Australia? I would love to chat to you . I'm a jewish ex lefty and your videos have really made me think

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@satiricgames2129He has. He should have a couple of videos on it.

[@PuddilyOops]

I cannot imagine if one of my children came to me saying, I was born wrong! Just agreeing with that and then going with surgery and drugs to “fix” my “wrong” kid as if they were deformed in some way?As a parent the idea is anathema to me. This ideology is wicked.

[@DorianPaige00]

They don't come home and have a conversation. I held my weight which in turn kept my height the same for 4 years in youth before I told my parents. Protein and caloric restriction lighten the blow especially if it's male puberty one is dealing with. I currently present as male with male clothing and appearance but use low dose estrogen and have been happily castrated. I'm an "adult-boy" and explore that option with the few adult males who identify this way. It's best it play out this way as I'm functional, a caregiver to my elderly mother, and am worth a decent sum. I don't belong in an institution under civil committal or prison sentence.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

@@DorianPaige00thank you! I’ve been meaning to do the same.

[@TinnyDee]

​@@DorianPaige00 Caloric restriction and holding one's weight the same for 4 years thru the natural growth speeds of puberty is unhealthy and physically detrimental to your health (and your future health issues) What you deserved in the beginning was some supportive sane adults to guide you that didn't have an agenda or agreed with an ideology that promotes and agreed that hating yourself was miraculously fixed by outside sources and extreme measures.

[@excalibro8365]

I mean physical deformities are real issues, but other than that I agree.

[@stephaay8437]

money doesn’t make you any less mentally ill. Why were you afraid to grow up into a man??

[@druharper]

An oasis of sanity, thank you Chris and Peter.

[@johnfinch4585]

I have a two year old. Thank you so much. Love your videos..

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thanks

[@user_angelmum]

He is so right about women not being permitted to have their tubes ties at 25 my sister had 4 kids she and her husband did not want more .. The doctor refused her .. saying she might want more children . Her husbabd sane age same 4 children ..He went to the sane doctor and was booked in for a vacectomie the next week . The double standard from doctors is ridiculous. It blows me away that doctors will now give a young girl a double mastectomy and hysterectomy before they are out of 8th grade 😢

[@DorianPaige00]

You have to go to the right doctor because not every clinic or practice will offer this. Most doctors don't practice gender affirming care. Most urologists won't do orchiectomies on eunuchs. It maybe easier to undo a vasectomy over tubal ligation. Some doctors don't want to get involved with things if they'll be challenged through lawsuit or have their ethics questioned. Professionally I was a real estate agent and wanted to protect my seller who I represented. I told multiple listing service to knock if off and not tell buyers how many days the house is on the market. My sellers intentions aren't anyone's business and the laws of agency dictate that. Twenty years later they've been suits over misrepresenting number of days on market. I say it's not their business but what it does is it puts downward pressure on the seller who the agent represents. With friends like that who needs enemies. In summation, either professional issues get addressed with organizations through lawsuits or they don't. They'll play fast and loose but professionals don't deviate much from what others in the profession do. MLS, WPATH, and professional organization set guidelines and give out memos but also act to drive profit, policy, and sales.

[@ambientjohnny]

@@DorianPaige00 "Gender affirming care" is the most regressive and sexist load of bollocks to come out in decades.

[@TinnyDee]

In the early 90s I had a doctor try to convince me to get my tubes tied at 20 after my 3rd child. He overwhelmingly tried to shame me. Using my age, economic status and martial status against me. I raised 3 very beautiful smart healthy daughters. It wasn't easy. But it was worth it. I now have 5 grandchildren and my first great grandchild on the way.

[@DorianPaige00]

@@TinnyDee Congratulations on your family. The doctor shouldn't be knife happy and force a procedure you don't want. However that procedure should remain open to anyone who wants it and is willing to perform it. That's called democracy and that form of birth control is an alternate to abortion.

[@dafunkmonster]

"The double standard from doctors is ridiculous." It's not a double standard, with respect to tubal ligation vs vasectomy. It is much harder to reverse a tubal ligation than to reverse a vasectomy.

[@janb9458]

Chris, I was in Portugal, there listening to your talk with Stella and Sasha. This ideology snags children (even if they're young adults) and takes them away from loving, stable parents. Happened to us. So long ago (11 yrs) that there were no supports for how we were feeling as parents about any of this. I'm glad to know these young parents now have an understanding of the risks regarding gender ideology that is out there and will be able to protect their little guy from it. I'm sad we weren't able to.

[@HekateSelini]

so sorry to hear that.

[@RachelRichards]

I started puberty blockers at 14 but the thing is, I didn't even have to go to a doctor. I used gift cards that I'd get as gifts to order them from online pharmacies. It's unfortunately very easy to get these drugs. The problem is that kids now know that they can stop puberty and change their gender.

[@victorinewarner5670]

Maybe those drugs can stop/change puberty(and cause cancer) but they will not change your gender or sex. That is not possible

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

But they can't thats the point, what you are describing used to be a medical condition called a hormone imbalance, in the past that was treated not deliberately induced, today's youth are going to pay a high price, the long term effects of these drugs have been known for years, there are going to be so many court cases over the next 30 years.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"now know that they can stop puberty and change their gender." Well, stop puberty anyway. That person is stuck in-between, neither male nor female.

[@kristinrichmond8185]

They can get drugs. They can’t change sex.

[@DorianPaige00]

@@GreatSageSunWukong I'm in better health than when I started care over 13 years ago. Say what you want. I'm in my late 40's and have no negative side effects. Low dose estrogen and castration gave me back my youth.

[@dustycooper]

What is it about America that they always go to the extremes? Wether it’s politics, entertainment, food or in this case gender ideology, they seem to always want to explore the absolute limits.

[@Bibirallie]

This is across Europe and Germany is leading the way.

[@excalibro8365]

Believe it or not, 1st amendment. Surprise, surprise! When you let people say anything they will say anything.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Good question. I see this too.

[@jon123xyz]

But in America it is a public issue. In Canada it is really bad but.nit.being discussed, as billboard Chris well knows 🇨🇦

[@Sillybillyilly]

Its taught in prek.. ive been hearing toddlers speak knowledge that they shouldnt know for several years now. Way too many kids are being sexual in elementary. Way too many are changing gender and going on blockers and hormones. Instant affirmation is terrible. They do NOT look into why. They do NOT see if something else is gong on mentally or socially. My daughter suddenly decided on being a male in 2020 along with pretty much every female in the school. When mine decided everyone was calling me in panic that something happened to her. 4 years later itsbstill the same . The school enables.. and the therapist is doing nothing. In my state i dont have a say past 13 and all the therapists and teachers know what they are doing is NOT the right way and they say that in orivate convos... but if they say it to the kids they get fired

[@LisaMatthews-qs7le]

@@Sillybillyilly I saw one lady on KZbin who woke her daughter up after moving states and starting her at another school where she could start over. It must be hard after announcing you are a boy to backtrack on that so a change of environment can help if it’s possible

[@jseehowitsbeen3177]

When my oldest son was about 2-2.5 years old he started saying he was a girl. We also had a daughter at the time that was19 months younger than he was. We told him, “No, you’re a boy.” and “No, God made you a boy.” For a couple days he would say things like “I’m a girl too.” and we just kept affirming he was a boy. He stopped saying he was a girl and didn’t mention it again. Years later when he was a young teen we were talking and reminded him how he once said he was a girl when he was a toddler. His response to that was to say, “I must have been really dumb when I was 2.” We talked and said he wasn’t dumb, that a lot of toddlers make statements about pretending or being something they aren’t and they quickly grow out of that stage of pretend when it’s not encouraged or forced to become their entire identity.

[@ADanZLife]

I think homeschooling is also pivotal in this day and age. Public school is detrimental and I would call it an institution of indoctrination instead of an institution of education. I teach students how to think, not what to think.

[@sparee8822]

Yes, but what about teachers in the public school system that teaches people how to think and what to think about

[@ADanZLife]

@@sparee8822 I'd say these teachers are rare and those they have tried have been fired, like Warren Smith. I'd also encourage you to look into the state of high school debate and speech competitions because those who are winning are doing those through Woke, victimhood narratives.

[@dafunkmonster]

You actually need to teach kids what to think, a lot, over and over, about a whole lot of things before they finally learn how to think. That is, you cannot teach kids how to think without teaching them what to think first. Kids need to be given lots and lots of knowledge before they can think. They need to be told "this is how you behave in this situation" and "this is how you should think about this situation" over and over.

[@IILunchTraeII]

If one of my sons or daughter tells me they believe they are the opposite gender then I will let them know "me too" and taking them everywhere in public in my new gender outfits. That should fix it.

[@ilpmuRk]

Bit unorthodox but I like it 😃 put a Go Pro on and share the footage please

[@pdxnikki1]

Alex Stein

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

That’s a good idea. Make it CRINGE (it already totally is; they just don’t realize it yet, but they’re getting there, slowly).

[@excalibro8365]

Reminds me of a clip where a father stopped his daughter from going outside in a skimpy outfit by dressing skimpy himself "Show don't tell" isn't just a narrative technique, it also works well in real life situations.

[@ellyw7201]

Best idea I've heard so far! And hilarious!

[@Awarene613]

I have a tomboy - girl at home! She wears the boys uniform and I let her be comfortable what she wants to wear, she never stated she wants to be boy just says... She doesn't like skirts and dresses., she also prefers to play w boys as there is less drama. She knows one day she has the superpower of giving birth, she is what she is a beautiful girl. We have to teach kids to love themselves, it's about self acceptance and keeping them off tik tok/smartphones for as long as possible. 😂

[@vanthdreadstar8039]

"Maybe they are trying to belay bedtime" Ha-ha, that made me laugh. Been there.

[@bigboicreme]

Nice to see normal family

[@wickedbird1538]

😮😮Woke is crazy. Move away from states that don’t protect children.

[@matthewatwood8641]

I think it should absolutely be legislated. Doctors should not be permitted to perform these hideous operations. It should be a federal crime with severe penalties - life sentence.

[@Alan112573]

Read them "Johnny Walrus"! 😊

[@jac6727]

Ok.. so I just have to put my hand up 🙋‍♀️ and say yes, I actually DID love going through puberty. I celebrated the changes occurring but I also had a vastly different perspective about the process then everyone else (not at all from my upbringing). Same thing with pregnancy.. I celebrated pregnancy and had 2 great pregnancies and 2 very comfortable (meaning mostly pain free) deliveries. Again, I had a totally different perspective on the whole process compared to other women. So I think if we DEPROGRAMMED all the negativity girls and women have been epigenetically saturated and inculcated in, then I KNOW we’d have different outcomes. I’m not saying there weren’t ups and downs but that is all things in life and to be expected. I really just did not think about these life processes as “so traumatic” that I hated them.

[@doid4354]

you are lucky. the idea that girls are less valuable was put into my head at a young age. not by anyone I loved, but by seeing how people treated boys and girls. we are held to a higher standard yet also told we are too emotional to be smart.

[@kristinrichmond8185]

Excellent point.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

I’m a dude, but I LOVED going through puberty because I wanted pubic hair sooo bad. Haha.

[@DorianPaige00]

These Godly men would say you should feel some pain in order to be a woman. You didn't get your rites.

[@underwaterdream2870]

I got through my puberty at 9, as the first of my peers. I was a year younger than my classmates as well, because my parents (with professional approval) sent me to school early. But at the same time I was about a head taller than anyone in my class - I simply was growing way faster, it was not an illness or anything. So by modern medicine I should have been medicated and treated for something that wasn't an issue. I also felt there's nothing wrong with me. When I've got my first period, I was laughing, I wasn't scared. If anyone, my mom was. My breasts grew, but the only issue I had with them was that neither mom nor any grown woman had no actual knowledge about proper bras and how to even measure them properly. I eventually got myself into brafitting, but I see how girls with larger sizes can feel bad about having them. While that's a lingerie issue, not a medical one! I'm currently wearing 70L (not as "large", but as the alphabet goes) and it's really not that volumptuous, I wear regular clothes on top. Anyway, I also agree that in modern times feminity and womanhood are demonised. But we're also taght to fear any pain that may come our way.

[@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904]

1:07 SUPPORTING that foolishness is the problem. The catch 22.

[@christinelennon1110]

Sexualising children at such a young age is criminal

[@glennoverhoff6589]

Wow. Someone claiming that baby was born in the wrong body. How frightening, sick and fanatical. Thank you Chris and Peter. You totally nailed it. Best of luck to the young parents. They are awesome parents!

[@jackiekjono]

I want to add this link to the discussion. This is a conversation between Kim Iverson and Blaire White about issues surrounding Trans Kids that came about because of the Matt Walsh documentary. Blaire White argues very persuasively against transitioning children. I like this conversation because both Blaire and Kim are on opposite sides of the issue but both clearly concerned about the physical safety of the children and they are both listening to each other. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqaZgZmYjdKHidk

[@DorianPaige00]

Why not extend that debate to adults? You win a few; you lose a few, Uncle Blair. Why not detransition Blaire and throw Blaire into an institution since Blaire said, "I may want to switch back and the whole transition was done to deal with trauma"? Blair constantly knocks a majority of transgender adults because it validates Blaire as a woman. That's a complex all until it's own! So why not debate whether sodomy and gay relations should remain legal? If they win, they hold but if they lose, we take their freedom for 20 years, their house, and all of their money to pay for their imprisonment. Sound fair?

[@user-wt3bk9nl5x]

Hi Peter, you're HERE? In Lisbon?

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Where did you film this?

[@cyano741]

I had to take my daughter out of grade 2 when the teacher started handing out pronoun forms without consent ( Canada). It was unannounced and consisted of male, female and then other, with a list of made up terminology. That same year, they got an entire speech about gender being a personal choice, with a presentation, I kid you not. There was also a " history day" that was vaguely outlined, and turned out to be reconciliation day filled with brutal video's about native genocide and our white heritage being a burden we must take accountability for, aka you are white and are guilty by inheritance. At the end of the year, this girl in her class started to "identify" as male, other days female and also switched frequently to they/them. She had rainbow hair...shocker. Grade 2 people, grade 2. Obviously spurred on by her parents. While all the other kids did not take it seriously, and basically fought over who could be a dinosaur that day, my daughter was told by me, that she should not have to participate in politics at all. What that meant, she had no idea about, she was in grade two after all. But it did teach her that some things are not important at her age. That learning math and learning how to share was infinitely more important than adhering to tik tok trends. This girl overheard my daughter say something to another boy and started correcting her by saying " That is something a boy would say, not a girl". Which my daughter responded to with " I don't have to care about that. I can say what I want". She got hit, in the face. This was the start of an endless year of parent teacher meetings, bullying and targeting from this girl, obviously spurred on by her parents. Constant e-mails back and forth for proof, forcing my daughter to sit next to this girl so " they could get along better" Without our consent. The final straw was when my daughter mentioned that her parents told her she does not have to talk about "politic things". And this child responded with " Your parents should die". Nothing was done. I have all the e-mails. This type of indoctrination was part of the schoolboard in Canada, and mandated through our government. I fought. I fought with everyone including the principal. It did not matter. I pulled her out of school and homeschooled her for a year before I found a semi-private co-op school. I am still horrified.

[@central_scrutinizr]

It’s criminal what schools put children and their families through

[@kimj5037]

You guys are awesome!

[@ellie698]

Great video ❤

[@simgrmehmej8075]

Oof the lady jumping in with what they’re “supportive of”…

[@HekateSelini]

a very high number of kids at the gender clinic (Tavistock) reported same sex attraction, and we know that many people who grow up to be gay/lesbian are gender non conforming at a young age - so transitioning children/youth is also an exceptionally cruel form of conversion therapy, because it irreversibly damages the body.

[@mr.horrorchild4094]

This is madness.

[@dreadfulspiller8766]

Do they consider home schooling or sending them to a church school that isn't liberal? They don't want to give up an easy life and sacrifice some comfort for their kids.

[@autumnberend828]

I mean, you can go to the doctor and get testosterone. I know several people who go there in order to get elevated testosterone, generally because they want to keep lifting. Though I usually only hear people doing that when they're testosterone levels start to drop through age.

[@Policy-Principle]

How many kids, is a good amount of kids?

[@nogorman560]

#RepealGRA

[@poissonpuerile8897]

Is Billboard Chris a physician?

[@sosimple3585]

No. I think he meant 'If I was a physician,' at that point.

[@poissonpuerile8897]

@@sosimple3585 Thanks!

[@DorianPaige00]

No, Chris Elston is a former scientologist and goon for L. Ron Hubbard.

[@leakybean501]

🎯🎯

[@mikew2479]

Money

[@plehmann72]

I dont think it's fair to say that proponents of the ideology are praying on people vulnerabilities. I think its more accurate to say its well intentioned but factually incorrect and potentially very harmful.

[@pauloffrobert]

What is the mind? Researchers have several concepts of what is the mind, at least from my understanding there no concrete idea of what the mind is in each person. If we can't have a concrete understanding of what our mind is, how then can we even begin to know if a person feeling of gender is in the wrong body.

[@DorianPaige00]

There's no wrong body! One wishes their body would stay the same in youth or develop in the other birth sex's direction. You don't know how disheartening it feels to know tomorrow won't be as good as today and I realized that at 12-14. After that I shut down. Everyone else felt comfortable enough to have friends and close relations but I isolated for another decade and lost that time.

[@pauloffrobert]

@@DorianPaige00Hope you are doing okay now.

[@lucyburns4379]

If somebody has ADHD undiagnosed or otherwise, then they need to wait until 35. Yes, their frontal cortex takes that long to develop. I would also think that's plenty of time to learn about yourself.

[@PuddilyOops]

25

[@DorianPaige00]

And perhaps they should wait as long to get a polio or Covid vaccine.

[@TinnyDee]

​@@DorianPaige00 dude your counter arguments have little to no correlation and make no sense.

[@TheWorldTeacher]

sex: gender; the BINARY state of being either male or female in most species of metazoans. In humans, each cell nucleus contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, a total of 46 chromosomes. The first 22 pairs are called autosomes. Autosomes are homologous chromosomes, that is, chromosomes that contain the same genes (regions of DNA) in the same order along their chromosomal arms. The 23rd pair of chromosomes are called allosomes (sex chromosomes). These allosomes consist of two X chromosomes in most all females, and an X chromosome and a Y chromosome in most all males. Females, therefore, have 23 homologous chromosome pairs, whereas males have 22. The X and Y chromosomes have small regions of homology called pseudoautosomal regions. The X chromosome is always present as the 23rd chromosome in the ovum, while either an X or Y chromosome may be present in an individual spermatozoon cell gamete. Rare chromosomal anomalies include X (Turner syndrome); XXY (Klinefelter syndrome); XYY; and XXX. In such cases, the sex of the human is still either male or female, because one’s sex/gender is determined primarily by the gametes produced (see below). An extremely minute percentage of humans are either (anatomical) hermaphrodites or of indeterminate sex (or to be more accurate, disordered sex). That does not negate the incontrovertible FACT that there are but two sexes/genders. In order for reproduction to take place, there is the requirement of a female ovum and a male sperm to unite, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex dichotomy of most species of animals is to enable procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the individual in question. There is no third gamete. Cf. “gender”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). If the reader is curious to know the reason for this term being included in the glossary of “F.I.S.H” (apart from the fact that it is actually used in a handful of chapters), it is because, in recent times, LEFTISTS have been desperately trying to change the meaning of the words “sex” and “gender”, in order to serve their immensely-nefarious agenda to destroy civil society with their hateful, wicked, immoral ideologies, especially by promoting the nonsensical idea that a person is able to transition from one gender to the other. ♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️ gender: sex; the BINARY state of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. Therefore, even if a human being possessed a male reproductive system (or, at a minimum, produced spermatazoa, despite not having a complete reproductive system [in other words, a man without a distinguishable penis]), yet was superlatively feminine in every other possible way, he would be required to mate with a biological female in order to reproduce (and, as explained in Chapter 27, marriage is a societal obligation for the vast majority of humans). An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those persons who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that every human belongs to one of only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in “his/her” womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate ‘him/herself’). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. In those rare cases in which a human is born without gonads, the other characteristics of sex/gender would be taken into consideration - firstly, the allosomes (sex chromosomes) found in the DNA of every cell, and then, any extant genitalia, since even those females who have experienced the misfortune of being born without ovaries, for instance, usually have their remaining sex organs intact). Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from “genus”, such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus”, is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. If the reader is curious to know why this term is included in the glossary of “F.I.S.H” (apart from the fact that it is actually used in a handful of chapters), it is because leftists have been desperately trying to change the meaning of the word of late, in order to serve their immensely-perverse agenda to destroy civil society with their hateful, wicked, sinful, OBJECTIVELY-IMMORAL doctrines. Until relatively recently, the word “gender” has ALWAYS been used in the etymologically-accurate sense of the term. And even in the former case (where the word has been used to denote something other than the sexual binary taxonomy), predominantly in those places where leftist ideologues comprise a significant portion of the population - mainly Anglophone countries at present, although by the time you are reading this document, probably every nation on earth, with the exception of Islamic lands. See also “leftism”. Ultimately, the term “gender” is not absolutely synonymous with the word “sex” (otherwise, why would progenitors of the Latin tongue have coined two distinct words for two slightly divergent concepts), but it most definitely does not refer to the notion or notions invented by leftists (those who adhere to adharma), especially the idea that “sex” refers to a binary division of human biology and/or anatomy, whereas “gender” refers to how one identifies according to societal norms in regard to sexual roles. For example, most all leftist ideologues define “woman” as “someone who identifies as a woman”, which is a wholly circular definition. Those of us who stand for dharma (righteousness) must push-back with all our might against the adulteration of the language. If you are truly wise and intelligent, you would surely have recognized several amazing secrets contained within the body of this treatise, “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”. However, perhaps the most secretive secret of all, shall forthwith be revealed: It is IMPOSSIBLE for a human being to change his or her sex/gender! (You are implored to keep this secret - do not tell a soul!!!) For example, a man who castrates himself and wears a skirt or a dress, is simply a mutilated, transvestinal male - not a woman, nor is he a female. Similarly, a woman who attaches an appendage resembling a phallus to her crotch and dons a pair of pantaloons, is merely a transvestinal woman with a fake penis between her thighs, and not a man, nor a male, in any accurate sense of the terms. Actually, I would contend that any “man” who excises his reproductive organs was always a dickless “man”, metaphorically speaking. N.B. Even though the glossary entries “gender” and “sex” are worded somewhat differently, they could easily have EITHER been interchangeable, or else, worded identically, since, in practice, they possess the same meaning. Even when the term “gender” (or any non-English cognate of the word) is used in grammar, it indicates whether a particular noun or pronoun is masculine, feminine or neuter, although most nouns in the English language do not have a gender (neuters).

[@ceeweight3845]

nobody is reading all of this.

[@TheVeganVicar]

@@ceeweight3845, wow, it's amazing how you could possibly know such a thing. You must be GOD! Incidentally, SILLIEST of My Silly, Sinful Slaves, I have read every single word of the original post (several times, in fact).

[@AndyJarman]

We need to understand what is meant but "leftist". We need to understand if a political philosophy is not part of a democratic debate between people who understand the fundamental need for free and open democratic systems of government then it is not classically liberal, it is authoritarian. Liberal democracy NEEDS a left wing. The so called "leftists" are neither left or right in a liberal discourse. Their goal is to shut down any idea that our private lives and businesses should be left to govern themselves. Total management by the state of every aspect of our economy and our families is their goal.

[@warlockpaladin2261]

​@@ceeweight3845 I skimmed through it... it does get repetitive.

[@kiowah231]

@@ceeweight3845 Yeah reading is super hard when your brain is rotted beyond belief 🥺🥺🥺

[@justinsims655]

It's not a doctor's place to deny you a procedure because you might regret it. What next? Cashiers denying your purchase of cake when they observe that you're fat?

[@TinnyDee]

Yes it is. A doctor has an ethical and professional obligation to do no harm. If they go against that they are going against the very fabric of what being a doctor means.

[@justinsims655]

@TinnyDee Okay, let's flesh out the Hippocratic Oath. What is meant by "harm" in this context? Surely a threat to life or limb constitutes harm--no one's disputing that. Is leading an undesirable lifestyle harmful? Do we consider undesirability from the patient's perspective, or the doctor's? For example, if the doctor is a Jehovah's Witness, could he deny a blood transfusion on the grounds that you might regret committing the sin of receiving one? It's interesting to me that people can take the Oath to be axiomatic, but also accept the attitude of "give me liberty, or give me death!" They are directly opposed.

[@dafunkmonster]

"It's not a doctor's place to deny you a procedure because you might regret it." It is, actually. In fact, it is a moral imperative for the doctor to either try to talk you out of it, or to refuse to perform the procedure if they know that you are likely to regret it.

[@dafunkmonster]

@@justinsims655 "It's interesting to me that people can take the Oath to be axiomatic, but also accept the attitude of "give me liberty, or give me death!" They are directly opposed." They are not. The doctor is not your slave. They are not required to do whatever you ask. They are free to refuse to do harm to you, even if you ask for it. You are free to ask to have your legs chopped off. The doctor is free to tell you to fuck off. That's liberty. Deal with it.

[@justinsims655]

@@dafunkmonsterYou wouldn't be okay with plastic surgery, tattoos, laser eye surgery, etc., all being denied on the basis that someday the woman may not like the fake perkiness, or the customer may not how wrinkles affect the tattoo's appearance, or the eye surgery may backfire where glasses would have been safe. You'd tell that professional to kindly get stuffed.

[@Selmamander]

👁👁

[@janebennetto5655]

❤🇬🇧❌❌

[@Edudux]

Why do you go abroad, if you end up just talking to US citizens?

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

They talked to a German psychologist in Peter’s last video.

[@drpeterboghossian]

We talk to lots of non-US citizens while abroad, but they noticed Billboard Chris's sign and walked up.

[@shiggins9]

I've traveled to many countries and found that when you meet someone from where you are from in a far away place, there is a special bond that doesn't exist if you had talked to them where you reside. It's pretty neat.

[@alexarnold5091]

Why have you made your entire life about childrens sexuality? You are weird. And stop calling other people's children beautiful.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Not sure what you mean.

[@alexarnold5091]

@@drpeterboghossian Serious? You should try and introspectively look into what you are doing and why you do it. You start arguments with unintelligent people to get rage bait views on your shitty channel. Pretty sad for a "doctor" of philosophy. Grow up, Peter. To think I used to respect you and buy your books...

[@Boudicaisback]

Gender ideology has nothing to do with sexuality. Being gay has nothing to do with someone wanting to change their sex

[@velkyn1]

nice to see how hate is being spread by these idiots who lie about genders. Seems that these parents simply want someone to control, not to love for who they are.

[@mackenziecunningham9]

He is their child. I'd say they will be fine, sheilding him from harmful ideology.

[@velkyn1]

@@mackenziecunningham9 yep, they'll hate him if he dares not agree with their lies.

[@liberality]

​@@velkyn1 Love them for 'who they are'? You mean 'who they are clearly not, but deluded enough to think they are'. That's not love.

[@PuddilyOops]

How can you “love someone for who they are” and at the same time encourage your child to medicalize their body so it’s easier for straight people to pretend they aren’t gay? That’s F’d up.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

“hate”? “lie”? What do you mean, exactly?

[@robws007]

Peter & Co.: your "street epistemology" videos are entertaining and thought-provoking, but there's something odd about having you, Colin and Chris all in the same video. It only reinforces the stereotype of "men suddenly concerned about women's sports". Hey, I'm on your side and in your demographic (middle-aged, cis-male, caucasian) but you are preaching to the converted and will only reach the demographic who need to listen (ie. Millennial and GenZ women, primarily, or naïve men like that German student on your other video) will be when you diversify the source of the message. Next time, maybe invite a female or trans co-host?

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

You just identified yourself as a cis-male. That’s something only a gender ideologue would do.

[@Gingerblaze]

Isn't it the content of what they are saying which matters more than what sex the person is who is saying it? Also, Chloe Cole has travelled with Chris before. She was trans identifying as a child but has since cognitively healed and is no longer identifying as the opposite sex.

[@robws007]

@@Gingerblaze in a perfect world, yes. Look, I agree with what all three of these guys are saying... but to win the "hearts & minds" of anyone on the woke (I hate that word!) end of the spectrum, they might feel immediate resistance seeing 3 cis white men espousing a certain POV. Race, gender and sexuality should have nothing to do with the debate, but that's not the reality and to confront identity ideologues effectively, you need to play their game to a certain extent. I realize that all 3 of these men have done podcasts & co-labs with women and trans folks, but all three together is overload. And I say that as a middle-aged, cis white man myself LOL

[@emmy-kz1pj]

I agree with you. Although it shouldn't matter who the person is doing the interviewing (male/female/old/young, etc etc) it kind of does because that is the context they're coming from. Not sure what it is- just feels a bit odd with the three males. Maybe a male protecting female vibe about it which comes across in the women's sports debates too. Mix of demographics for the discussion facilitators would be ideal. As an aside, I do agree that the trans men shouldn't be in the women's sports but I think it needs to be very careful not to cross over into society hen-picking at any masculine-looking female in sports and them being treated differently eg being asked to do testing which is not asked of others. There's something not right about that. Biological, physical advantage is a fundamental part of every sport. You might like to think your 5ft6 self has a chance on the Olympics basketball team if you trained hard enough but it's unlikely. Policing physicality too much I think is the wrong route. Saying no to trans man in the women's sport I agree with but then it should stop at that. The women who just look more masculine than the average should be left well-alone. If God gave them an advantage to be stronger than the average women than good for them, that may be their strength in life, rather than beauty or intelligence, we all have our strengths. If physicality is going to be policed, then the same should be done to male sports. The very strongest and most masculine investigated as to why they have that advantage and removed from the arena. I was quite against what happened in the Olympic boxing. It did have a bit of a witch hunt vibe with those poor masculine looking boxers. If you have made a decision as a woman to do boxing as a sport (and we've got to agree it's an uncommon choice of sport for women) then you'd expect to come across some pretty manly kind of women. Even playing soccer when I moved overseas I found there were a lot of butch, rough women. I realised they were too rough for me personally, well at that club anyway. 😅 Just realised I've gone on a massive tangent with this. Never mind.

[@robws007]

@@emmy-kz1pj I agree with everything you said! There is a "slippery slope" between limiting the participation of trans women in women's sports and then "policing women's bodies"... unfortunately, that is the grey zone that gender ideologues have exploited. During the Paris Olympics, there were two boxers in the women's category who were intersex (XY chromosomes but not fully developed males with some female attributes, so they were socialized as female, etc.). They both won gold medals in a sport where people punch each other! So, not as clear-cut as a trans women competing in boxing, but still very unfair to the women with XX chromosomes and testosterone in the normal female range who simply can't punch as hard (or run as fast, as there have been cases of intersex women winning Olympic medals in the 2012, 2016 and 2020 Olympics). If everybody argued in good faith and showed empathy, this issue wouldn't be so contentious... unfortunately, there are Luddites who say things like "there are only two genders" and equally ridiculous statements coming from the other end of the opinion spectrum saying "trans women are women". Neither of those statements are true IMHO, so why can't we discuss it calmly and logically?

[@satiricgames2129]

I'm so glad that I was born in the middle 80s because I think I would have fallen pray to these people if it wasn't for the fact that it was not a thing back then but I tell you what I was a tomb boy obsessed with dinosaurs loved my bmx

[@satiricgames2129]

Aa Do you know what's really f****** annoying too as a female is I actually need hormone support for my out of whack hormones um and it costs me more to get hormones as a woman to fix my actual problems like being a woman and having the wrong hormones all too much and not enough of other hormones I have to pay more than a trans person and I have to wait longer to see someone than a transperson

[@DorianPaige00]

I waited and had to suffer for 20 years without seeing a doctor for orchiectomy and low dose estrogen.

[@ambientjohnny]

@@DorianPaige00 You are male, and you didn't need any of that for medical or health reasons.

[@joge2468]

@@DorianPaige00 What do you mean? Are you saying you had your testicles removed and are taking estrogen? Are you trans, or a pedophile?

[@pauldiezel4584]

​@@DorianPaige00 I'm seeing you manically reply on almost every comment here. As someone who is not in America, If you're wanting to chemically castrate and slice up your children's genitalia, let your country trial this new experiment for 30 years and then the rest of the world can see the results. Leave your lunatic extreme American ideologies out of our countries. Nobody wants them.