Mona Lisa Smile: The teacher vs. the married student

[@itsmaddieb2393]

Homegirl got a ring on her finger and thought she was better than everyone else 😂

[@destinywhite2063]

In Betty’s eyes, yes. Katherine, in that particular time period, was considered a liberal spinster who Wellesley decided no man would want, cause she was too old. Nevermind the actual truth of the matter.

[@davidthaler7018]

Meanwhile, her husband couldn’t keep it in his pants and she filed for divorce. You could hear the mother’s cerebral hemorrhage.

[@RoseRedd-k4b]

LMAO reminds me of some of my coworkers

[@jessijuniper7687]

To this day, that is a thing. The worst are the ones who married military men and its like they graduates to General themselves.

[@CeltycSparrow]

And Ms. Katherine let her know that she would not be bullied or threatened by a student...even a married one.

[@tremainedouglas288]

Honestly, I don't blame Katherine. Just because Betty is married doesn't make her more superior than her own teacher.

[@Miss_Myth]

Actually, Betty believed she was superior regardless. That her standing, family, etc and Ms. Watson's lack of those things made her better, and made the teacher less. She expected others to cowtow and almost be in awe of her, as if she were nobility. It's how she was raised. But she gets a wake-up call and a half throughout the movie.

[@tinahuttner7280]

@cortezconquistadorI think it should be but it’s not meant for others and I think that’s why some partners cheated cause they married cause it was the thing to do back then plus he or she came from a good background.

[@j.elizabeth4621]

Women couldn’t have bank accounts without a male co-signer. Being married was almost a requirement to survive.

[@Miss_Myth]

@cortezconquistador While I do agree that was part of it, I still think that Betty believed she was superior before the marriage. Even if she hadn't been engaged, I got the impression that she saw herself as someone of higher standing than Katherine, and the fact that Ms. Watson was a teacher, in a position of authority (supposedly) meant very little to her.

[@Victory_to_Ukr]

@cortezconquistadorseems like you even didn’t watch the movie 😂

[@heathermetz6576]

1:00 “Come to class, do the work, or I’ll fail you.” “If you fail me, there’ll be consequences.” “Are you threatening me?” “I’m educating you.” “That’s MY job.”

[@moragag9307]

That’s why I love Julia Roberts 😍😍😍

[@sigmundauster5340]

I would’ve answered: “Then do your job!” 😇

[@ShadisaSkyline]

@@sigmundauster5340I would have answered back,”You can lead a horse to water…”

[@hadawson72268]

I can’t understand why she came back to school after she got married. She didn’t really want an education. She just wanted something to do until she got married. She’s married she didn’t need school anymore. She wanted to have children and be a mother and didn’t take her education seriously. That’s all fine but own it and don’t waste your classmates’ time with this nonsense. Some people are paying to be there.

[@TheMagicAround]

I do not agree. She did take her classes seriously before marriage and I'm not sure that this one wanted to be a mother. She kind of believed that it MUST be so - marriage and stuff. Became bitter when her husband and marriage turned out to be not what she expected. Than she went on thinking how to fix her situation without checking with what her mom&society expected.

[@animeaddict13]

She probably expected to be given a free pass in her classes since she was married and her family was rich and well connected. She probably viewed her degree as more decorative than anything else.

[@alel3544]

@hadawson72268 I think that having a degree from that very school was a status as much as getting married. If I correctly recall, that was the school her mother attended too. A school for whealty girls who must accomplish this task before fully dive into a wife/mother life.

[@shaliacampbell4807]

Well her “husband” was gone during this time as well. She was probably very board and wanted an excuse to leave the house herself

[@KingChiJay91]

She wanted to retain her Queen Bee status. She wanted the validation, admiration, and attention from the other girls. Her fiance/Husband wasn't giving her much attention to begin with, she knew he was cheating, and she knew this was a society marriage. She knew her life would have no excitement if she was a stay at home wife. She knew she would always be alone internally. That's why she went back after getting married.

[@alel3544]

I know that Betty is the product of her mother's education and believes, but she's so brattly arrogant that I hoped the teacher slapped her. What is worse is that Connie stands for her in this occasion, and Betty is very mean and cruel with her later. Great cast!

[@l.a.3479]

A teacher should never slap or hit a student regardless of what the student says. I hope you're not a teacher.

[@alel3544]

@@l.a.3479 Damn, can't you recognize a sarcastic hyperbole? _Of course_ teachers should not slap students 🤦‍♀️

[@kiwimusume]

I gotta hand it to the writers. Her attitude now makes what happens later in the movie all the sadder.

[@DiamondBodyHealing]

she would never talk to a male professor like that. disgusting. that level of sociopathic rage against another woman never goes away. thats how misogyny works...you don't speak up to the people who are oppressing you, you take it out on the kindest woman who is trying to lift you up.sad. Hwood is completely unrealistic. her transformation in the movie would never happen in real life. she would have continued to belittle and bully the teacher, and getting all the cowardly girls on board.

[@christianealshut1123]

Well, she gets her lesson taught by ending up with a cheating husband.

[@laurieclarkson9180]

Such a great movie. Intense scenes and incredible characters! There is so much to learn about life from each character and the ways they interact with each other. It's kinda sad to see people watch this and NOT see the value in it. I do think it may be something women will identify with more..but it's just great.

[@KarlaBermudez88]

I see why Kat was so smart in 10 things I hate about you. Look at her ancestor 🥰

[@IrrelevantReviewsAndComments]

Aww I love this ❤

[@christianealshut1123]

Well, the point of the story is that Katherine does not encourage her students not to get married; she encourages them to do what is their free choice. And as one of the students says in the course of the movie, if your free choice is getting married, that is OK. I just think that as far as Betty is concerned, her choice of marriage is not as "free" as she believes it to be, but is also due to parental pressure (as her mother says that instead of divorcing her husband for cheating, she should "work out things with him"). I like this movie, it's like a female version of Dead Poet's Society.

[@lisaschreiber5590]

One of the most powerful scenes.

[@doris2793]

Honestly, so glad women don't have to be married to have a future. Men took advantage too much and honestly very few women were happy it was all a facade...

[@kiwimusume]

Same. 😢

[@littleone1656]

There's no actual evidence to support the claim that "MOST women were unhappy" that's an invention of modern feminism. Women are actually more unhappy now than they were 50 years ago. And yes, there ARE studies that prove this.

[@BrandyTexas214]

Are women happy now? I’m happier married than I ever was single.

[@starzndices1066]

​@@BrandyTexas214 In the movie, it's directly said that women were not able to go to college before, that things have gotten better. That was correct, but things still weren't great. Women couldn't have a bank account by themselves FFS. Things are better now than they were then, because so many fought for choice and autonomy. It's still not perfect, probably never will be, but we can see humanity's progress through history, appreciate it, and continue to make things better as we go. Glad you are happy, but what works for one never works for all. Having a choice matters.

[@TheStepmonkey]

Actually the majority of married women back then were happier than they are now. Nowadays u see more depressed people and more divorces.

[@lovelyhoney3334]

Why do girls like this even bother with school? Just be a house wife then and stop wasting everyone else’s time

[@jusssable]

how about you just be a house wife and stop wasting everyone else's time. Do your chores instead of watching and commenting YT. Thanks!

[@AlodiaEteniaPetrichor]

Welcome to China and Thailand!

[@Glamourgirl27100]

Tf that second comment mind ur business

[@akirahatson2593]

​@@jusssable they were talking about that girl that wants to be a wife. She doesnt care about her education so it seems

[@TheStepmonkey]

What's the issue with her wanting an education? Just because u are a married woman doesn't mean u can't work.

[@karenrich9092]

This film shows us how women get their MRS degree. It used to be the only reason some women went to college.

[@MrRuben27]

Such adamant students should be given a tight slap

[@sharonjensen3016]

Sometimes it's not worth it. Because Karma packs a harder punch than anyone ever could.

[@l.a.3479]

Never

[@keepyourvisionstoyourself1932]

'Glad you could join us, Mrs Jones. We thought we'd lost you.' 'Well, I had to get busy with my cheerleading squad when I realized our routines were stolen. Sorry.'

[@kerrajohnson3203]

If that's tradition take it up with the faculty.

[@maryann33335]

I liked the movie. but in reality I don't like it when students challenge their teachers and teachers humiliating or degrading students in their capability..can they just both say things nicely without displaying arrogance and have more respect to each other?.

[@juanchoresultay2704]

Well both are wrong but the teacher is just doing her job to make sure her student attends class regularly or leave a notice of absence

[@ilvnhiulam]

I mean the teacher has a right to be angry and teach that naughty student a lesson tbh.

[@kiwimusume]

The behaviour of Kirsten Dunst’s character is meant to push your buttons, and Julia Robert’s character also learns not to be so strident as the movie goes on. Scenes like this are meant to be uncomfortable.

[@kalanatorres845]

Because Betty Is a snob and the students are outsmarting the teacher 24/7. Like stop being a smart ass and let her teach

[@DragonGoddess18]

Act like a "Karen" and you'll be treated like a "Karen"

[@98nfp]

Watching

[@choryllis6646]

What's the point in applying and getting a grade if all you're going to do is be a housewife?

[@aaronsrok3422]

SHADE!

[@ks6423]

Kirsten Dunst was unbearable in this film

[@budikopral]

Cool

[@brandonpayne2877]

Kick her out of the class for the day. Professors are aloud to do that right?

[@drequaunthompson445]

20th anniversary

[@JoyfulRelaxation22]

All along, Betty was deeply insecure about her own situation, and the way she coped was to completely project it onto everyone else, whatever that entailed. Not okay, but once you've seen the movie, you start to see why she is the way she is. Good for Katharine to stick up to her! The movie shows viewers all the "shadows" of the repressed feminine across many characters, and this is one of them. Dangerous manipulation/projection, because of deep-seeded insecurity.

[@RoseRedd-k4b]

Betty is a loose cannon, I wouldn't want to get on her bad side. Just like her mother man. Also I am glad I don't live in the 1950s.

[@skdjcmsbdjc]

Jane from breaking bad

[@GoofyChaiLoverGirl]

today "provide and nurturer" trend people would not like this teacher

[@juliaeisenberg9605]

Where is the next part of the scene?

[@themarquis336]

Honestly, I can understand both sides. If that really was the way the school and classes were allowed to be ran regarding married students, then thats the way it works. But for the same token, if you're treating school as your side-activity while you're not being a housewife, then by all means just drop out and save everyone's time. When two things cannot coexist without essentially hindering each other's function/values, they should not be forced to coexist.

[@cecetraveldiary]

Isn’t Kirsten Dunst’s character the same as the most of the people who got married and rubbed it to someone’s face?

[@myslef7636]

wth i just watched

[@ajaxSAF]

exactly my thought lol

[@amany247]

No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart .

[@ItsFliy]

@@amany247 keep preaching so I can fall asleep

[@teedee2894]

@@amany247 i searched and 9-11 came up

[@ronaldhuang2053]

Man why is everyone wearing shit from saks this some good school like fordham and shit

[@tippysvids]

And now look at our culture.

[@justcarineinparis]

I don’t get it

[@eddied8262]

@@justcarineinparis As in it took a nosedive into the toilet.

[@macabree5856]

@@eddied8262 Eh mainly the united States. I don't know how the other 195 countries are doing in terms of moral, ethics or economy but here in the U.S., we arepititful

[@alisonf6478]

Equality for women? Fuck yeah!

[@dimitritome5118]

The worst part of our culture is hateful people like you who want to return to a time when women were easily controlled commodities. Our culture is free and if you don't consume quality content, that sounds like a "you" problem.

[@hosoiarchives4858]

Women

[@jihangamal5823]

That professor wouldn't have inspired me to do anything. Lame performance.

[@lexiechans]

clearly you didn't watch the movie

[@Jml15]

@cortezconquistadoroh no, let’s not educate women. That’s dangerous. A woman should be flakey, uneducated, and have zero scruples. She should never keep her word on anything. She should sign up for classes, say she’s going to show up and do the work, then blow it off. Sounds like a great basis for society.

[@ProfessorChomsky]

One of your Saturday night feel good factor films.....love it, I'll watch it til my end xx

[@bostontowny4life744]

I mean I never seen this movie, but the married girl is right, the teacher is CLEARLY bitter.

[@justcarineinparis]

I would be too if my pupils expected to pass without attending or doing the work…

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

You should watch the movie. The married student is the bitter one and it's because of her mother and her husband.

[@laly5288]

Like all feminists are

[@jnmks]

how about be a student and actually do work so you can pass? just because you’re married doesn’t mean you will be excused just drop out if you don’t wanna study❗️

[@ananyathomas9348]

You all have clearly not see the movie and why would you anything that talks about the demerits of patriarchy would obviously boggle your mind

[@lucassummers9605]

Heh. Women.

[@namratarout5175]

Perhaps you talk about your mother like that!

[@karthikanair5162]

Other half of the population who also happen to have experiences. 🤷‍♀️

[@amany247]

No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart .

[@hiperoptikvaskulerdonduruc2099]

Shut up

[@lotuselise4432]

Why do muslims kill other muslims?

[@ChaoticHero1997]

What does this have to do anything from the movie?

[@blackmarala]

I searched an found that your prophet had to share a bed with his uncle and his uncle used to touch him.

[@mailfueranca]

And she went on to bully black women at NASA 😂