Money and the Turning of the Age: Part 2

[@donvandekrol6468]

This is the best investment advice I've ever heard!!

[@shimblypibbins]

Charles Eisenstein, you are phenomenal. Thank you for introducing me to your ideas.

[@ranger14809]

thoughtful, intense, committed, passionate and humble a rare combination/ a gift of a person glad that I stumbled on this talk look forward to learning and feeling more Excellent!!!

[@shimblypibbins]

I am so glad to have discovered this man.

[@TransitionPittsburgh]

this is absolutely brilliant, thank you so much :)

[@AndreaMercierArtist]

Thank you for putting this on KZbin. I have learned a lot and really really appreciate Charles vocalizing what I have felt for a long time.

[@taylorashtondavis]

@GuyCybershy i love his style of verbal communication, especially his pauses. his voice alone is very comforting. his writing is simple and eloquent, to be certain, but his speaking feels alive and invites creativity and humbleness and his own unique spirit. calm, creative, comforting--but real--charles.

[@ShiverHinge]

A great side effect of the last 150 years of consumption is that a lot of what we can use going forward is already out of the ground and refined. We will not need to scar the Earth so blindly once we localize our stories, provided we change our meta-story before we completely exhaust the ecosystem.

[@charronfamilyconnect]

"insecurity is at the root of all human conflict."

[@thefundude79]

What we give survives the transition between worlds. well said!

[@lukeb8045]

Fascinating video but I do think we have a lot farther to go in the journey of expansion and growing. Even when this video was made 4 years ago it doesn't feel like we are any closer to turning around. A lot of people who are deep in debt and struggling would like it to be sooner rather than later. I never thought about the concept of a negative interest rate, and I will definitely think about it more and the effect it would have.

[@ranger14809]

He is a gentle and strong soul and very articulate. I have learned quite a bit already and I thank him for it. A question I hope someone here might help me answer. How will people in nations such as India and China react to these ideas? Will they be as ready to see the decline of money and ascent of social credit via gift giving as inevitable or as welcome? Might there take on a simpler more human based measure of wealth be something they want to escape rather than embrace? Thanks!!!

[@kalideskope]

google 'read sacred economics online', the first hit is an e-book on Charles' site.

[@melissamiller2696]

I am single and elderly. In order to hope for an adequate income until I die, I have squirreled away my money into annuities. Still I live frugally and am a little above the poverty level. But what bothers me is that all that money is going to corporations to take care of me thereby not doing anything productive in the economy that would benefit those close to me. This is currently normal. So this kind of investment impoverishes us through the generations. Plus I live alone and know a lot, but do not have an easy way to pass my knowledge and wisdom down, so I must leave my home and neighborhood in order to volunteer. Yet another form of currency/gift that will dwindle as I become less able.

[@mahmoudhazzaa2015]

Very prophetic.

[@marcelpijper3827]

Thank you for "giving it away"!

[@shimblypibbins]

Thank you

[@Randy778]

"Gold and Silver have survived monetary transition for thousands of years. " No they haven´t.

[@FATCACAK]

Thank you for this eye opening presentation. Although alot of what you pointed out was quite profound and intriguing, I must disagree with you on a central part of your argument. When ethically practiced, economics MUST be about increasing the (relative) physical capacity for, and density of life in any realm we extend in to. This will also incidentally increase the quality of life, because it requires constant evolutionary leaps in science and technology to keep up with the exponential curve

[@shimblypibbins]

Charles, is your book available for free? I hope so...

[@rosiemc719]

Nailed it!

[@danfromabove]

I don't get the 'infinite energy machine' thing since we already are in the presence of an enormous nuclear powered battery which uses its energy to build more storage capacity.

[@FireHill16]

But if you can, pass some of that evil money his way, because in these times, it's still needed to further good work like this.

[@ShiverHinge]

Debt-free money will be closely linked to resource management.

[@danfromabove]

3. Take permaculture design course?

[@BrainFlickerStudios]

I noticed you referred to story or enacting stories and wondered how influenced you are by Daniel Quinn's work?

[@kerpowjs]

The ideas that Charles are talking about here seem to fall right in line with the coming change from the Age of Pices to the Age of Aquarius. Just like when the metaphoric figure of this age, Jesus, "scattered the money changers" so to will the money changers be scattered over the next 100 or so years as we enter into the next age. Its all cyclical and part of the fractal we live in.

[@selvmordspilot]

1. Watch Zeitgeist while thinking of this talk. 2. Shit bricks. 3. ?????? 4. Change the world

[@wendellfitzgerald2]

It puzzles me that there is no discussion of economic injustice. The monetary system is not even the most fundamental mechanism of exploitation in the system. Yes an honest monetary system would be important but it is not fundamental. Eisenstein touches on what is more fundamental by speaking about the taking away of what belongs to all of us and selling it back to us. He speaks of food preparation and entertainment that used to be provided as a gift but this is hardly earth shaking. He can only be referring to the privatization of the commons but he does not speak of it. I know that he knows about but he does not speak of it. itEisenstein and others assert that tinkering with the monetary system would transform the economic system into something just and sustainable although Eisenstein does not use those words as far as i know. He implies that a monetary reform would result in the ending of the mechanisms that allow the few to pocket massive amounts of unearned income that has enriched them at the expense of all humanity from time immemorial. A simple thought experiment one can run is to wave a magic wand to create the desired monetary system of one's choice and then ask oneself if that would result in the end of getting of something for nothing that so characterizes the global economic system. I do not see those mechanisms of unearned income being discarded merely because we change how money was created or even if its value was made to decrease over time. I especially do not see the virtual private monopoly of ownership of the earth Herself, the monopoly of capital or legal monopolies granted by patents and copyrights to name a few being affected in the least. It is estimated that unearned income amounts to 40+% of GNP mostly in the hands of a few of our kind at the top of the economic heap. Eisenstein speaks of how banks create money out of thin air through the process of loans but he does not say what every economist knows that the interest charged on money created in this way is wholly unearned. Bankers and bank investors might have to straighten up but they would merely move over into the practice of other mechanisms of unearned income. Especially would they move into land speculation which has been a curse on humanity for a long time. Charles you cannot be serious about transformation of the economic system if you do not speak of unearned income. You cannot be serious if you do not at least mention that taxation of unearned income is a good idea. The issue and the solution are the 900 pound gorilla riding on the elephant in the room. Those of us who do speak of it are marginalized. I don't blame you for not wanting to be marginalized. After all you have children to feed.

[@Randy778]

Considering your unshakable faith in precious metals how about reading something about "tally sticks".

[@michalsavatar7]

Ran dy you know why talley sticks are worthless today? Because they are a poor store of value over time. You know why precious metals are valuable today? Because they are the best store of value over time. Drop the poetic mumbo jumbo and face the real world.

[@GreatLakesCommonsMap]

excellent - medicine for the heart, head, and soul. there are folks working on a Commons approach to the Great Lakes in north america. a long-term vision/practice for what Charles is talking about - bioregionalism, commons, connection, and value. visit our page.

[@YamiPoyo]

you lost me at gaia, so when i shoot the ground im not just making a hole im killing the planet!