Training with the Founder of Shidokan Karate, Yoshiji Soeno

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

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[@sakusuhorumu]

Would be interested in seeing you do a series on traditional Okinawan karate.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Sometime for sure!

[@poorkwamoi]

Me too!

[@Benvale1989]

Haha unreal! They were in Australia for the Kempo Ryu Australian titles. I literally bumped into them in the streets just before this exact training. I'm Glad someone filmed it!!

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Small world

[@sullyb23511]

That bunkai for mawashi uke was incredible, especially the ground fighting applications. Shidokan is the future of Sosai's legacy. I'd train it in a heartbeat if I could.

[@poorkwamoi]

Very cool video! My sensei in Seido Karate (as well as internal Gong Fu) is a 4th degree black belt under Shuseki Shihan William Oliver whom I never met... Always wanted to meet others from GM Oyama's heritage... It is always interesting to see the splitting of a heritage and how they branched out... Would love to learn more about Shidokan.. One interesting aspect is the breathing I heard.. similar to Seido and would love to learn more about their breathing techniques compared to Seido and Kyokushin... Thanks for all these great videos!

[@_....J........................]

Soeno's style looks like it oscillates between hard and soft, like Shaolin. (Just read that Soeno's first Karate teacher was a Mas Oyama (born Choi Yeong-eui) and his art began with an 18 lohan fist / southern Chinese Kempo taught by a Mr Yi in South Korea)

[@EzeHSK]

Actually Mas Oyama studied Goju Ryu, that's where the hard/soft thing comes from in Kyokushin and probably Shidokan

[@jassimarsingh6505]

@@EzeHSK all karate originated from southern shaolin kung fu

[@EzeHSK]

@@jassimarsingh6505 That's a bit of an overstatement. Oknawan Karate is strongly related to Southern Chinese kung fu (there's even a series about it in this same channel). But it's become its own thing with time. Even their training methods are not exactly the same. So saying Kyokushin's softness comes from Chinese influence is like saying something in French comes from the Greek language ignoring that Latin is in the middle.

[@Samperor]

Is there a source that I can see because it is very interesting to know Mas Oyama studied Kempo.

[@davidbarnwell_virtual_clas6729]

Interesting... impressive stuff...shows how much there is to learn and also shows that all styles are good. We can learn very valuable information from many sources.

[@themadrazorback2019]

Martial arts fellowship; this is what it is all about. Thanks!

[@victorsegovia8008]

Very amazing, sifu. I only hope some day meet you and have the chance to train with you. I am also a karate do practitioner (karate do shito ryu) greetings from Venezuela

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

I find it crazy that this eclectic branch of full contact Karate is not well known in MMA fanbase. This is like Kyokushin Karate on steroids imo. Just watch their "Triathlon of Martial Arts" tournaments for examples.

[@ThePsychoguy]

Just a fun tidbit about Mr. Soeno - he was one of the main inspirations for the character Ryu from Street Fighter. His appearance in earlier entries is nearly identical to pictures of Soeno in his younger years around the 70s and 80s, into the 90s.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Is that for real? If it is then that’s awesome

[@ThePsychoguy]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Yes it’s completely for real. Look at photos of Mr. Soeno from his younger competitive years, compare to Ryu’s character selection pic in SF2 The World Warrior. He and Oyama together were the base for his character - Oyama for his eccentric personality, and Soeno for his actual martial arts history. The first SF game was Ryu challenging the world until he eventually fought Sagat in Thailand. This was a direct nod to Soeno’s campaign to fight the Thais back in the 70s (Takashi Nishiyama, the creator of SF and several other fighting game franchises, was an avid martial artist who often used real history and fighters as inspiration).

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

That’s so awesome

[@alpachinko9154]

Great video - was a little surprised you didn't join in lol. Would be good to learn more about this system, and what kata they still/used to use , if any at all 👍🏽

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

I did join in, just didn’t get that on camera

[@rfcobain]

Ossu. Grande Mestre kancho Soeno. Um exemplo para todos os praticantes de karate do mund.

[@lineyking]

Would be interested in listening more to this system of karate

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Very interesting! Many thanks :)

[@ninjapandatsd]

Definitely interested in learning more about Shidokan Karate.

[@immortalwarrior2406]

Ous ous ous ous ous ous ous ous 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Gieszkanne]

A bit like a religion or cult.

[@sakusuhorumu]

Personally I hate the “OSU!”, but it’s typical of all the Kyokushin based karate styles

[@Gusavuaz]

Hello, I practice shidokan karate, greetings from Chile

[@ytb460]

Great video.

[@hotpopcorncake]

Aw man kyokushin and kung fu practitioner here i wish this video was longer

[@johncasarino5627]

Does northern mantis style spar and compet in any capacity? I know choy li fut does and certain lineages of shaolin and tiger claw but how common is it for northern fist styles of kung fu to spar and compete?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

People spar/compete, styles contain an encyclopaedia of techniques and strategies

[@johncasarino5627]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach is there any footage of full contact fights in northern mantis style?

[@mitch_605]

@@MonkeyStealsPeachI’d also love to see any others that Will knows of that are publicly available

[@lelionnoir4523]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZa3eIuDd5tkoaM There you go, John. Northern Mantis (albeit Hong Kong tradition) competing and winning !

[@RAPEDBYBLACKS]

Lol who cares about that crap? Just put on some gloves and go to an Open mat at ur local mma gym or boxing gym for spar and try

[@onemindonespirit]

Thumbs up to OSS!

[@gravehear92]

Are there any authentic shidokan dojos in the United States?

[@victorchavezbyakkoseiya7714]

Yoshiji Soeno is Ryu of Street Figther

[@IronFistKempo]

Shidokan karate is always a good friend of Black Dragon Kempo in Australia.

[@tbmcc_]

Hell YES talk to Christian! Shidokan is badass

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

Could you do a video kn traditional ryukyu (okinawan) martial arts

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

I'd love to at some point! So many projects and only so much funding and time haha

[@nalinsri100]

Osu Sosui, Osu all Shihan’s … great video

[@Eldrygg]

Awesome!

[@huntergrant6520]

Am i wrong or is he the actual guy Ryu from street fighter is based off of?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Im not sure about that, sorry

[@huntergrant6520]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach i look into it. There's a few references to him being based off Ryu. From when he fought "king of Muay Thai." I thought so. I always wished I could have met that guy. Almost traveled out to Chicago 10 years ago to meet him.

[@ronaldlee7566]

Is this Shidokan Shorin Ryu Karate?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

No, it’s different. It’s an offshoot of Kyokushin

[@ronaldlee7566]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Tnx Sir😊

[@dazzalovell3597]

Awesome , white subtitles on top of white gi in the background

[@XyZ-de8be]

isnt it goju ryu?

[@savvasperisanidis]

It's the grandchild of goju Shidokan >kyokushin >goju-from Naha region in Okinawa

[@marcogrugnettimarkohu]

intersting

[@_....J........................]

pronounce Japanese words with Japanese vowels - it's similar to Spanish vowels

[@linuxva]

Christ ...Oss !

[@bobnelson270]

His. How His. What I learned. Lol

[@Soaring_Hawk]

You should check out Sifu Gary Hearfield. I'm aware of the controversy but that man breathes kung fu.

[@ГеоргийЛи-з1ю]

Samurai rules 🤣 what a clown pardon my french😅 The Koryu aka bujutsu still alive even after government try to erase old traditions and samurai class. Daito Ryu, Jiu-jitsu and Kobudo still alive. Its a shame that fake styles aka combat sport what people see as martial arts in modern world.

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

That "clown" is a descendant of Samurai and he fought against Muay Thai fighters in Thailand since 1970s. You think Shidokan is a fake style? Go to online search and look for a news article called Stage 4 Cancer Surviving Restaurateur Uses Martial Arts Agaisnt Thief Who Stole Patron's I Phone. There is the proof.

[@AyeJordan7]

It’s called evolving martial arts..the dumbest thing u can do in martial arts is stay”traditional “😂😂

[@blockmasterscott]

@@AyeJordan7 Very true. My Choy Li Fut master is traditional as you can be, and even he has tweaked the training to fit modern times, for example, he now incorporates ground fighting in the training. And he uses gloves, head gear and chest padding for sparring. And when you think about it, fighting styles have always evolved to fit the times. For example, Gichin Funakoshi tweaked Okinawan Karate to fit in mainland Japanese universities in the the 1920s. It's nothing new.

[@AyeJordan7]

@@blockmasterscott yes but it’s important to also pressure test when u turn to,Gichin Funakashi did turn karate but he also damaged it,.bc before that karate had a lot of grappling which was called tegumi,and Toutie ,full contact sparring called Bogu sparring,karate was more complete back then,plus back then the realistic application of kata came first,then they taught u the kata,it’s important that if we modernize any art we need to make sure it’ll work and it’s effective.what he did destroyed karate,the effective training methods,and realistic grappling applications,this is why another karate master Kenwa Mabuni said”the karate that has spread to Tokyo is incomplete,those that think grappling is only apart of judo and jiu jitsu and not in karate have failed to grasp the complete art”.

[@josephcraig2568]

The shinsengumi were assassins. They were killing for 6 years from 1863 to 1869.

[@AbclkjM]

Sosai.masoyamastudenkancho.osu❤❤❤❤😢😢😢

[@AbclkjM]

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