Yong Chun White Crane's Most Senior Master, Su Ying Han - Masters of Fujian ep6

Su Ying Han is the most senior White Crane master in Yong Chun County, as well as in all of China. When we went to visit, we didn't even know if he would allow us to film, but after drinking a lot of tea with him, he gave us this great explanation and gave me a really sore wrist! He had an interest in northern Mantis too, and asked to see my form.
Yong Chun is said to be where Fang Qi Niang and her husband first taught White Crane. It's no coincidence that the place name sounds like Wing Chun, its just the Mandarin pronunciation, and some people believe Wing Chun has developed out of Crane Kung Fu.
In this series I team up with Jesse Enkamp aka the Karate Nerd to travel to Fujian province, Southwest China. We are here to explore the arts of Southern Shaolin, particularly the arts of White Crane, Five Ancestors and Luohan.
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[@vipassanamasterzenng5780]

Master Su Said the white crane 8 movement is the most important.

[@davidbarnwellutech4663]

What art was that you demonstrated at the end Wil? The one whose form you did?

[@blockmasterscott]

Man, I know I've said this before, but seeing my two favorite channels together just put a smile on my face. :)

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Thanks man! Glad you’re enjoying it! Jesse’s last vid went up yesterday and I have about five more, so stay tuned!

[@ambulocetusnatans]

Epic collaboration. Thank you for introducing me to Jesse's channel. More people like you should find a way to go to China and learn from these old masters before their skills are gone forever. Some of them don't have any inheritors because the kids all want to learn MMA these days.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

It was great to work with Jesse and I learnt so much from him! Yea, Im hoping that through these videos more people will go and do the same. I have already put a few people in contact with teachers that Ive interviewed

[@tommartin1223]

I found you through jessie! Both of you guys are great

[@1mataleo1]

Su Ying Han has a great series of dvds covering the entire system. I’ve seen them here on KZbin, but never with the English subtitles. I’ll have to pick them up when my situation improves so I can understand what he is saying, particularly in the one on San Zhan.

[@civilsavage6337]

Had that feeling with Yang Jwing Ming in US. Small wrap had me on the floor and in pain in an instant. White crane is no joke!

[@martinchan168]

But I think Yang is Tai Chi not White crane.

[@ukguy]

@@martinchan168 Yang is definitely a white crane guy who has learnt various other arts. He has written extensively about it. His books on white crane are excellent.

[@martinchan168]

@@ukguy yeah, I watched his documentary, he actually started White Crane first. I have a Grappling book from him. Wonder if he still have that training school in California.

[@Livingtree32]

@@martinchan168 As far as I know, yes. But not the 10 year program anymore. (if they haven´t taken it up again)

[@Gieszkanne]

Yang is doing northern White Crane. Its a totally different style.

[@JPGPakua]

Wow, this was awesome. His daughter's form was great. Happy for both camps and hope the Karate nerd morphs into the Kung Fu nerd, ha. Great video! Best so far.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

We’ll soon convert him!

[@lionellebigot4535]

Thank you, in all your videos from Fujian, I can see many deep links with Matayoshi Kingai-ryu Tôde (Okinawa's White Crane).

[@timoteostation]

I've met your channel from the Jesse's series. Your work is really good, all of these martial art researches are very important for the next generations.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Awesome, thank you!

[@kathywolf4558]

Thank you. Have read about this form but had never seen anyone who knew about this form.

[@AntKneeLeafEllipse]

What an amazing video!! So relaxed.

[@dowayigu1277]

in soft contains flexibility, awareness and power

[@vipassanamasterzenng5780]

Master Su The 8 movement most Important in white crane.

[@itz_just_me594]

Kata wasWonderful

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Awesome!

[@PINGANTU]

Good stuff! Thanks for uploading. I don't think I've seen Northern Mantis before. Very interesting.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

It turned out Master Su was friends with a close friend of my own Mantis Shifu, so he wanted to see some. Unfortunately I was pretty under the weather, as you can probably hear from my voice particularly in the Wuzu and Shaolin episodes, so my performance was a bit shoddy

[@Moodymongul]

10:00 - as I grew older, this became a thought for me (6ft tall). The form footwork, often is not adapted to fit a larger 'gate' (when taught). So, taller people (who have learnt the strict footwork spacing of the past) can look less stable in their movements/stances. Opening up the stances (even if it defies older thinking) often stabilises (correctly) a taller person.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Yea, I see what you mean. To be fair, that’s how a good teacher would teach the art. This performance is probably one of my worst too… tight jeans, wrong shoes and I was actually pretty sick with a fever…..

[@michaelbarnhart2451]

Excellent that you are here in Australia. I hope you will be spending time with Mr Gao Jian, inheritor of Liu He Tanglang in Melbourne

[@kentmoyer]

Great videos

[@jacquelinecahill3487]

Fantastic sharing 🙏🙏Thank you so much - so much Respect for these Older Masters 🙏🙏

[@deejin25]

When you know you're looking at profundity, but not sure how much of it you're going to get.

[@jadenng7569]

The next time you happen to visit Yongchun, you should go and visit Master Su's son, Su Junyi. He and his sister (who performed 美女梳妆 - Mei Nü Shu Zhuang, a core form of Baihe Quan in Yongchun) run a school not far from where you held the interview. In this video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4K7aqp_eKunjaM) he performs two slightly more advanced sets than the one his sister displayed in the interview. The first taolu (0:00 - 1:06) is called 千字打 (Qian Zi Da, "Qian" Character Striking) and the second taolu (1:46 - 4:48) is called 白鹤献爪 (Bai He Xian Zhao, White Crane Shows Talons).

[@joaovermelho0084]

My friend please clear me a doubt if possible. Is the Tibetan White Crane style the Fujian White Grace style? Or are they different styles? Or are they the same style just with different branches? Thanks in advance!

[@Gieszkanne]

Totally different styles. Have nothing to do with each other. Tibetan Crane is a northern long fist style.

[@joaovermelho0084]

@@Gieszkanne Thanks

[@leavemealoneyouprick]

when he says "theres no grab like this in karate" i'd like to mention how interesting that is, im not sure if ive seen it in other styles, but we practice it all the time in GoJu Ryu, but i saw one of the other videos from yours and jesse's journey where they said about the founder of GoJu going to the white crane temple to study.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

To be honest, I doubt he’s seen a huge amount of Karate beyond people who come to visit him as part of these “seeking the roots” trips

[@leavemealoneyouprick]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach tbf, that also crossed my mind haha, a lot of these kinds of people are trapped in their own bubble, i'd be annoyed if it wasnt fascinating.

[@barthur5704]

@@leavemealoneyouprick This grab is also manifested (I believe) in Passai in the kakeuke sequences, among other interpretations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWTbYnyJhpucq6s

[@stevepark2643]

It's in Uechi-ryu as well

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

​@@MonkeyStealsPeachgoju ryu has its roots in white crane

[@perrypelican9476]

Cool video. I think that he means the more tense you are, the easier it is for him to control you. I dont think its the movements that are important, its the internal flow of energy. No internal flow then no power. Its hard to explain. The beginners have to worry about exact position, but eventually you can almost do what you want, like strike forward while falling back and off balance.

[@diatonicone]

I could see how Tensho kata and a couple of movements from Kururunfa kata could possibly be derived from this.

[@user-wq1cb2hl3t]

希望这么好的拳种，不要失传啊。

[@TheRenegadeMonk]

What are the named of the forms demonstrated in this vid?

[@martinchan168]

The lady was so impressive! White crane spirit. Did you do a Shaolin or mantis set?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Mantis

[@scottc3165]

What a wonderful gentleman as well. Nice to document this skill.

[@evgenyrybin2394]

Thank you dear friend

[@frbud]

What style that you show in the end of this video? Do you have senior Su Ying Han showing San Zhan? Any Fa Jing that this senior showing?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Taiji Mantis, which I learnt when living in Shandong in northern China. Sorry, I don't have clips of him, but I think he produced some VCDs, maybe they are on KZbin somewhere

[@trumplostlol3007]

That has nothing to do with chi, but something to do with the joint structure of the arm. That positioning of the arm is also found in Wing Chun. When the arm is placed at a certain angle against the opponent, it is hard to break that structure even if you apply a lot of force to try to break it.

[@togetherdivinechange3235]

He knows what he’s talking about very good education! Thank you

[@immortalwarrior4722]

Hope to see u go chen village to see chen style and i hope u do vids on baguazhang and bajiquan

[@Livingtree32]

It would be more interesting to compare different lineages of Chen, like Laojia, Xinjia, Xiaojia, Zhaobao etc.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Variations of Chen & Zhaobao, plus different styles of Tongbei would be an awesome one!

[@Livingtree32]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Will, I also have another idea, although it's maybe not so mainstream: There are some small, not well-known styles in Jiangxi and Hunan, for example "Zimenquan", "Yingmenquan", "Famenquan" in Jiangxi, "Yuejia Quan" in Hunan. They seem to be all interconnected and they don't fit the characteristics of other groups of styles that are more well-known. You can read about it on Taiping Institute's website, if you're interested. The cool thing about it: If you did a miniseries on this topic, it would be an absolute first. I'm not even aware of it having been done in China before. 😉

[@Livingtree32]

Of course I don't recommend going there right now, everyone be cautious.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

You’re tempting me with all these ideas! Time and money is always a hindrance though!

[@michaelburnell2803]

What was the Mantis form you demonstrated? Loved it 👍

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Thanks! First section of Zhai Yao

[@viveknaik001]

That hand hold is in japanese aiki which is my personal theory is taichi as both have very similar theory to control a fight

[@viveknaik001]

As taichi can be written taiqi taiji and over a period of time can become taiki and then aiki

[@viveknaik001]

And it is well known that taichi is the most effective internal martial arts

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

How its romanized means nothing, don’t forget Latin alphabet didn’t exist to the masters who created these arts

[@viveknaik001]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach that is true but even the philosophy as to their training and fighting methods also are very similar..

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Wasnt Ueshiba supposed to have trained Taiji and Bagua while living in China?

[@elpepepepardo4503]

can the camera man stop tapping the microphone? ffs man...

[@user-mv1ty4cr6i]

苏老师的功夫很好特别是鹤缠脖堪称一绝，不知道您是练什么拳的？ 看您打的拳也很好👍您师傅不知是哪位高人？

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

您过奖！我是练螳螂拳，我师父是烟台市的周振动先生。感兴趣可以在百度查一下

[@user-mv1ty4cr6i]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach 集各派螳螂于一身非常优秀，看您发布的视频受益良多。看得出来您是真心喜欢传统武术，传承相信您会做的很好👍

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

多谢🙏

[@akadhsu]

Not only you can speak Mandarin very well, but you also understand Chinese at a different level.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Thanks a lot!

[@ReelDealWingchun]

Jesse?

[@c_san5905]

I have seen this video a couple of times, but i know that i'm missing the half because i don't understand Chinese, English isn't my first language, the translation isn't very clear and there are no captions, may you help us with the explanations? Thanks

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Sorry if its not clear for you, I was translating pretty much exactly what he said.

[@wric01]

Tiger crane combo is lost.