Monster Energy Supercross 2 - 2019 San Diego SX Gameplay

There's still a lot to talk about after the wild weekend that was the 2019 San Diego Supercross. Check out this replica of the track I designed and enjoy my commentary!
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[@crashingchip5540]

Agree with you 100% Kellen. Unacceptable of FELD. Its not hard to get sand. They use sawdust here in Nz to help with moisture

[@mrcallum339]

Same in Britain

[@jayrguitar]

Feld is trying to hide it like kicking an ice cube under the fridge

[@greasertv3147]

Jay Robinson 😂

[@mntvl4419]

Eventually someone is gonna slip on that puddle grabbing a sandwich.... or a lime...

[@airmail333]

Those growing sponge animals. Sponges. Lots of chopped up sponges on the track. That will change everything. Imagine having sponge dinosaurs flung everywhere.

[@clubtouge1052]

You win

[@megaboomnetwork9383]

The ktm kids racing that track was the dumbest idea of the night

[@frankgallagher2262]

If nothing else, letting minors ride that track with 'lime-gate' can become a major issue.

[@ericplata3778]

Rain or shine the show must go on

[@CyrusFisher619]

Yeah. That was stupid. Poor kids

[@baylissutting3968]

The kids had a choice

[@allaindaigle1682]

Best race of the night

[@LnnTDesigns]

the F1 of USA in 2005 was boycotted because of a tyre problem, motocross riders could easily do this as well and they should.

[@callmen4]

@@DanArnets1492 nobody is reading the that...

[@kalvinvaldez8322]

The worst thing is that they could’ve done something different but they decided to take the cheap way out.The lime was the cheapest thing so they didn’t care about the riders and mechanics.

[@nathanjones3083]

Seems like sand would be cheaper. I mean we got deserts that are full of that stuff.

[@dariusbekker2602]

I don't think they realized before the time that it would have done that damage

[@kalvinvaldez8322]

Darius Bekker in the the past they’ve used lime and it has backfired so they knew what could happen

[@JCem8409]

I think if and when it come across a major news station desk they will really cover it when they find out the kids got burned also that's like icing on the cake

[@ethanwhisman227]

Who this hurts the most is the kids who got chemical burns personal View why don't we just have a true mud race and not put lime on there or any substance to dry up the water but at the end of the day felt should be held responsible for anything they do do from this point on with a very critical eye and by very very very very critical Eye Flet

[@jacklillyman482]

Ethan Whisman yes that would be good but just think how bad it would be if there was nothing drying it up it would be unrideable

[@richardstobert482]

Nobody is holding the FIM accountable for keeping Broc Tickle from having an income. Who's going to hold Feld responsible. Nobody. Supercross isn't about the riders. It's for the sponsors by the sponsors.

[@ethanwhisman227]

@@richardstobert482 now Brooke tickle was a complete different situation he was one Rider this is a lot bigger than him but in a way you are right but usually drop Riders who are in his position can go up to Canada and ride and get a pretty decent ride

[@ethanwhisman227]

@@jacklillyman482 just my opinion

[@ethanwhisman227]

@@jacklillyman482 well what would you rather have if you raced in the mud what they had in San Diego or an actual muddy muddy muddy muddy race track that it's just mud didn't have the water in it in the chemicals it was just dirt

[@tragicjak9790]

We use that lime sand mixture to raise concrete and it doesn't give a chemical reaction to anything. It does sit in water and doesn't soak it up until it is mixed in, however it would deteriorate the bike but I think the "burns" was from the lime getting in there clothes and rubbing there thigh. But it doesn't give a chemical reaction.

[@juanvasquez8795]

Next time it rains they should put lime on the track and let the AMA officials dive in the puddles

[@tyblorpbounspleef8316]

FELD definitely needs to take accountability for rider and crew safety, but from what I have heard from the riders is they didnt actually dump any lime on the track after the rain came, that would not make sense, it was mixed with the dirt, which is why in a lot of time-lapses of track builds some sections will look almost completely white, or like they are made out of concrete until they are packed, but that still doesn't make it okay to use the stuff. If sources are correct, the lime they used is actually a base, and not an acid compound as many people believe, so it has the potential for some more long term health concerns if ingested and/or the eyes are exposed to it, so I am surprised that they use it with such nonchalance. Most of the riders noted that their gear and skin had a "soapy" texture about it, which lines up in perfect sense with what happens to construction workers on exposure; that soapy feeling actually being the top layer of skin in the affected area is basically liquifying, thus causing the severe burns and rashes. I don't think there is any way to pinpoint the EXACT substance that was used but if one thing is for sure there were some better options, i.e. something like Gypsum, but nothing will prevent a stadium full of dirt from becoming a quagmire under torrential downpour. In terms of the bikes, they would be able to use the main portion of the bikes again, like the frames etc. But moving parts like the forks especially will be rendered completely done for, as the metal coatings will be useless, but for privateers they may not have the same ability to strip/clean their bikes. All in all, I really hope everybody keeps talking about this, it needs to be addressed and it is a huge dent in FELD's already fairly tumultuous stint as presenters of the series. Between the FIM, FELD, and the AMA, I am truly shocked they even manage to sort out venues to race with all the bureaucracy that must take place.

[@wesleyrath5835]

What a kicka$$ replica track, well done!!

[@StartYourSystems]

Thanks Wesley!

[@MoistureMagnet]

I PERSONALLY think it was something else with the Lime only because ive worked around Lime for a while and have never had any problems. However maybe ive just gotten lucky!

[@vajeye-nar6172]

But have you laid down in a puddle with lime in it like the kids did? LOL

[@wretchedslippage3255]

This game is surprisingly well made! I played the first one on ps4 and I remember it being so awful I returned it a few hours later.. I took a chance on 2 for PC and its like way good.

[@The123dsd]

This game looks so easy watching you play it lol

[@nathanlonsdale8018]

Not to fire anyone up but the ktm minis had the chose to race or not it's for fun at that age they aren't racing for sheep stations

[@pixelfodder]

We used to race next to a huge timber Mill and they'd come and dump sawdust around the track which helped on wet days the bonus was, being timber, it'll eventually decompose and add to the soil so no clean up

[@joebockenstette6603]

Vinegar stops lime burns, My work has a lime kiln were we produce alot of lime and it works everytime

[@OMEGA-gq4xb]

Not enough lime burning the riders. 5/10

[@nathanjones3083]

I think they should use 4x4 quads on nights like this. Would make things interesting

[@Adam-sm4yn]

Incredibly stupid idea, but I love it!, But it would ruin the track. Still would be fun to see though

[@nathanjones3083]

@@Adam-sm4yn Should try it once. They would all kinds of people excited for that. Plus would be no need for lime on the track

[@nathanjones3083]

@Eric On YT Well ya. But it would be freakin awesome though.

[@jacklillyman482]

Nathan Jones no it really wouldn’t

[@ethanwhisman227]

@@Adam-sm4yn ironically I've had to race after some quads on ruin tracks and that's loved it other people have hated it and I got to come through the pack while they were all falling down and getting stuck in their rocks and I was enjoying it course I like deep ruts

[@iONLYuseMYBOW]

You already know im gonna join in on the lime related comments tonight on sim 🤪

[@Zenor63]

In 2017 Roczen almost got cut off his arm because of the lime got inside his arm

[@megaboomnetwork9383]

Zenor I did not know that

[@Jbren323]

Personally I think that one of the reasons why they don’t want to confess is because obviously they will get sued. But if they do, the sport will be losing money it doesn’t need to be losing. Think of the privateer guys in the sport that don’t get payed very well for low placement in the races, that struggle financially to make every weekend. If they can’t afford to raise the pay of the riders every weekend, then getting sued will only make things worse.

[@mudbud6303]

If you look up limegate theres a video of a news channel getting to the topic like you said there will be lil

[@chase_d42]

It’s always nice hearing your opinion on controversial topics like this.

[@kedankumpe4119]

Awesome!!!

[@derekbuttram4262]

I did not know they used lime to dry up wet tracks over the last few years. I work at a gold mine (Round Mountain Gold Corp.) where we use lime heavily in some of our processes. Now I'm not sure if there are different variants of lime but we are trained to never touch lime and always have to wear protective equipment when working near it, because lime activates when it contacts any kind of moisture (water, sweat, etc.) and will burn whatever its on. This sounds like a massive safety issue.

[@Drifter982]

In the construction field concrete contractor use it halfway through the cure to dry up the water. But they're always wearing respirators when moving it as they sweep it around. Kinda shitty that they used it like they did

[@mattedwards_]

The whole Limegate thing is pretty upsetting too. I’m studying chemistry right now and why would they have thought putting lime in water was a good idea? Especially puddles! If anything they should have used minimal amounts before hand, or just found something that was less reactive. Now riders were harmed, and yeah the bikes too but the riders are the main concern here. You can’t risk other peoples’ safety like that.

[@gping1126]

This game looks sweet! I got the first one on Xbox but kinda died out on it.

[@Widescotto]

looks like they claimed this video too

[@amymarks3056]

Can you do the 2018 San Diego please all your side like to see

[@mikeowen9768]

Not much is up Kellen, what's up with you?

[@tylersaurey7815]

Sand is not a chemical. Sand would not actually dry the surface, it only let's water past through more easily. 60 tons of lime is only 2 dump truck loads to use on a entire football field. It would take many times more loads of sand to have any effect and then you have permanently mixed sand with the soil that will be used every year for these events. Just saying there are reasons to use lime. This was just a bad time to do it

[@StartYourSystems]

My point was, everyone including Queen Elizabeth knew this was going to be a mud race. So build the track with a lot of sand and make it a sandy Supercross. They used to just have sand races every year in Tampa and Oakland. At the very least, fans get to see something completely different if it’s sandy but don’t get a roll-roll-roll fest if it rains.

[@vitalsigns479]

I'm not 100% on this but I'm pretty sure its in a contract that all the riders have to sign before they can race that they cannot legally form a union.

[@michaeltoledo47]

1. I love this channel 2. Those guys are wicked dumb for putting lime on the track

[@StartYourSystems]

Thank you! And yes, very dumb haha

[@ThunderMS34]

Those mud physics and ground deformation looks half decent

[@ThunderMS34]

I said half decent.. they aint perfect but its an improvement...

[@mattedwards_]

There’s no Roczen in this game :(

[@megaboomnetwork9383]

Matt Edwards go check out my channel for more info on this topic

[@cowpker4life333]

2:45 you want a patch? they still have yet to patch many bugs in mxgp 4(pro it says 4 in game files btw lazy devs.) such as if u use rewind you for some reason come out shifted up a gear and some game breaking physics problems.

[@vn2nv307]

The AMA have never cared about the riders... I remember jmac saying that they just never cared about him or any other riders, they only care about the money

[@bradenqw3765]

Love the vid

[@brandiesnelgrove669]

Zthey thought lime was a water remover thing or dirt drying thing

[@lamboman7]

Do the ruts grab you at all? They just look cosmetic based on this gameplay

[@JuiceTalksFootball]

FELD Also used LIME at Monster Jam in Anaheim this past weekend ik totally different situation just thought id say something bout it

[@JuiceTalksFootball]

Also Within the Monster Jam Community were encouraged to upload all of our stuff to youtube an other social medias an when we do upload them to youtube we get striked so I hear you being apart of both communities an FELD keeps taking advantage of both is a really bad look if you ask me

[@JuiceTalksFootball]

Oh ya for sure ik that but still rough on equipment

[@JuiceTalksFootball]

Trust me ik I usually help out an work the shows

[@JuiceTalksFootball]

Lol ya been to 40something shows an have been watching for well over 15yrs I think about 20 now lol an I also play this game called ror that's like sim for monster jam lol

[@beyer127]

What do I search do find your tracks? Yours look really good compared to the other replicas I’ve been playing

[@dandreroos907]

Are they gonna add split screen

[@chasesbmx8438]

That's 👍

[@monicamateus3]

EU VOU VER

[@HeyStack199]

Why did you not use the new big whoops instead of building them like the old game?

[@StartYourSystems]

Because I tried to replicate the track like real life and they rolled out the whoops in San Diego due to the rain

[@matthewholmes8638]

Insurance will cover it

[@joeyantolak6426]

How about wood chips?

[@AshtonG2022]

Hey kellen i have a question how did you pre order and play the game on the same day because when I tried to preorder it it said expected playable date 2/8/19

[@StartYourSystems]

I believe you had to pre-order it well in advance of the Feb. 5th early release. So anyone pre-ordering now will get it on the actual release date of the game instead

[@leadfoot5307]

Another question related to the game, the special edition has something about an L.A. Colesium mode avalible. Any indication if this will be avalible after launch for the regular version?

[@ozzy683]

Hows it gonna affect Minneapolis sx? Compensation for Factory riders and privateers alike should be made.

[@CyrusFisher619]

This is bad. Ktm micro most likely not going to race.btw I am going to that race tomorrow

[@ozzy683]

@@CyrusFisher619 me too. Heading up there in the morning thats why i was wonderin

[@CyrusFisher619]

Nice. Well safe travels!

[@ashtongross1436]

do you know the guy whindam151, he's another youtuber who plays mx games

[@StartYourSystems]

Don’t know him personally but of course I know about him.

[@vn2nv307]

Here in aus, we ride no matter what... if the tracks wet.. so what? We ride... they shouldn’t be doing anything to the tracks in my opinion.. either let them ride or cancel the race..

[@kikisliftingservice]

I saw a picture from one of the riders that was racing San Diego and the burns did not look good

[@ktm6060MC]

How much lime did the game put on that track?

[@MBF120]

They just need to let the riders race in the mud i stead of pampering them.

[@rogergauthier2769]

Yeah even i know lime burns u n can even get to where u need surgury .. If I heard lime I would have said im not racing sorry . lime is for concrete mix has nothing to do with dirt it has to do with concrete .... Wow

[@TheRacetown]

where is Ken Roczen ???

[@megaboomnetwork9383]

Racetown go check out my channel for more information about this topic

[@Silver_Dollar]

Could you make a video explaining whips a little bit more I’m trying to figure them out cause every time I throw one it’s just stiff and ugly

[@clubtouge1052]

It's just the game physics tbh

[@tombo6245]

Why isn’t there a lawsuit yet, this is some serious shit

[@Plockman29]

Takes time to build the files and paperwork done up by the lawyers.

[@sciewter]

Here is what I think. You lay down lime to make the track better, it rains and pools up. Obviously pooling water is going to have lime run off the other surrounding parts of the track into this pooled water. Its gonna suck but no one can predict mother nature. I am not defending Feld at all but what are you supposed to do? Look forward to it not being used at all anymore.

[@sciewter]

I think we will likely find there is no protocol. Maybe they should use the same polymer they use in diapers that absorbs 3 times its volume in water.

[@StartYourSystems]

You can’t predict Mother Nature but they did put more lime down AFTER the downpour. That’s the big problem here. If they handle the material, they have to know the chemical reaction that would happen just dumping it in a pool of standing water, but they didn’t. Therefore, negligence.

[@cowpker4life333]

when u salty about preordering a trash game so have to milk your money back out of it.

[@1Z0Z5]

This screams class-action lawsuit

[@Plockman29]

Oh yeah, especially regarding the kids.

[@dnolder]

So I’m 11 me and my cousin and are dads we’re gonna go up to silver springs motocross park with the same condition of San Diego and me and my cousin didn’t know about that chemical burn stuff and luckily it got canceled because my cousin is 8 and he doesn’t know the best lines to take so he probably would’ve got that chemical burn stuff.

[@kbub_elliott14]

But in the real race they weren’t going that fast

[@caydentaulbee4212]

To be fair they are a construction company and construction company’s use a lot of lime so they are able to work but I don’t think that it should be used in supercross because of the damage that it can do

[@Grigoris_04]

1vs1 @kellen ?

[@mamajhons4817]

bad chemical burns lol doubt it

[@MORE_DIRT359]

Feld and FIM are a damn joke

[@ethanwhisman227]

I don't know about the FIM they seem to put on great racing in Europe but that's Europe

[@dman1234541]

Unless trump put down the lime, no news org will put it anywhere

[@HeyImTiP]

True

[@NiclasN66]

Laping the whole 450cc field in a mud Race... guys whats wrong With the AI? Kellen wasnt even riding at his best and it still happened. Oh man. This Game might suck even more than the first One when it comes to the AI.

[@nofxceghxst9192]

I don't know if you know this, but mud slows you down significantly

[@ZIGAG1999]

umm. mud slows you down plus its on a custom track not 1 of the official tracks in the game.

[@StartYourSystems]

Yeah the AI are not good in the custom tracks. They aren’t programmed to hit the sections properly whereas they can program them on the official tracks better

[@rogergauthier2769]

I dont think lawyers will win the case lol nore do I think they should be inbolved but damn mkeep the law out of it I don't believe in sueing unless its fualts arrest or some shit like that

[@rowan5819]

I wish your stuff was not post commentary

[@RST9413]

0:54 seconds and after closed thsi video. 2019 and this game is totally trash