Stellaris 3.3 Ascension Perks Tier List

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Which Ascension Perks are best in Stellaris? Let's break it down into a tier list to rate the best and worst perks we can take in Stellaris.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:53 F tier
5:20 C tier
12:22 B tier
17:17 A tier
28:14 S tier
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@sanshou4927
@sanshou4927 2 жыл бұрын
One perk you missed on the Colossus Project was the "total war" wargoal. It allows you to declare war and take space without paying influence. This is great for when you are at the point in the game where you just want to burn your enemies without having to slowly take land. You don't even need to use the colossus, just have it orbiting your homeworld safe. It does also allow your enemies to total war you.
@ShummaAwilum
@ShummaAwilum 2 жыл бұрын
Came looking for this comment.
@gavin7683
@gavin7683 2 жыл бұрын
there are so many ways to get total war. becoem the crisis does it and you dont even need to build a citadel, colossal ship yard then colossus. also you can do it with diplomatic power. just declare you enemy to be a crisis. and BAM free total war.
@AK47Uprising
@AK47Uprising 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point, I almost always take it.
@cptlonesong3211
@cptlonesong3211 2 жыл бұрын
@@gavin7683 you need a Colossal Shipyard to build a Juggernoob so
@BlueReaper6561
@BlueReaper6561 2 жыл бұрын
@@gavin7683 You could also just exterminate all the filthy organics
@calmkat9032
@calmkat9032 2 жыл бұрын
This actually let me understand the ending to that Doctor Who arc, I never understood the Timelords' plan and why the Doctor destroyed them, its literally just what you do in Stellaris as the crisis lol.
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's amazing, this is the best reception I think the intro could have had! Glad you enjoyed it
@ennui9745
@ennui9745 2 жыл бұрын
@@MontuPlays Yeah I agree with him, that was a good reference.
@notsm
@notsm 2 жыл бұрын
Ah good, I thought I was the only one who had an epiphany there.
@james-michaelrobson287
@james-michaelrobson287 2 жыл бұрын
And your comment actually let me understand that this is Doctor Who.
@killerlork
@killerlork 2 жыл бұрын
@@james-michaelrobson287 lol, DW has changed a lot in 13 years
@Unknown.NotRegistered
@Unknown.NotRegistered 2 жыл бұрын
Xeno-Comptability is a tragedy. That perk would be better if it just gave the bonus Perks across the board, not just Hybrid pops and allow mixed breeding to increase planetary growth rate. As it is now its a eugenics experiment gone wrong. Just all kinds of horrible magnified by CPU damage.
@grawa4278
@grawa4278 2 жыл бұрын
They could just limit the amount of new species to be maxed at around 10 new species
@condotiero860
@condotiero860 2 жыл бұрын
Even without the lag, you have no control over the half-breed offspring, it's totally RNG. Could be good, but its usually mediocre. You are literally better off taking genetic modification. Why roll the dice, when you can get exactly what you want?
@calmkat9032
@calmkat9032 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they just gave your empire the +1 maximum traits and trait points, then the lore could be that your empire makes a hybrid of 2 races in particular, instead of it being out of the player's control. That way, its like a differently flavored species modification project
@NotMorchaste
@NotMorchaste 2 жыл бұрын
@@grawa4278 I think the solution is just to remove the hybrid species entirely. Keep the +1 trait point and +1 trait pick, and that's it. Purely mechanical, but it would work. Maybe just keep the Caravan event that can give you an hybrid specie, for flavor.
@xakuray5522
@xakuray5522 2 жыл бұрын
It should really just give you the conditionnal pop growth and the +1 trait point and slot to mess around with, and that's it. No more randomly creating random species.
@Pullapitko
@Pullapitko 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that Consecrated Worlds can situationally be extremely good. If you spawn next to a spiritualist fallen empire you have gaia worlds which you can't colonise.
@Hy3jii
@Hy3jii 2 жыл бұрын
pretty sure consecrating a Fallen Empire's holy world also grants a positive relations modifier with them and gives you some nice flavor text.
@codesimpson6010
@codesimpson6010 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hy3jii It does, I was going for Deus Vult and thought converting counted. The FE let me colonize the worlds after because the consecrated worlds modifier didn't go away. Managed to get peacekeeper in the same run because of it (200 years of peace)
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 2 жыл бұрын
This works really well, and like everyone else here said, I can confirm it makes the fallen empire more favorably inclined towards you. You can’t colonize those worlds anyhow, so this is the best option you have for them (until late game, at least).
@antonzhdanov9653
@antonzhdanov9653 2 жыл бұрын
While it gives good bonuses, still you need other ones for your early game and in late game they are pretty useless. And yes, the only beneficial way to use this perk well is consecrate same worlds fallen spiritualist guards
@sharksareneat8723
@sharksareneat8723 2 жыл бұрын
Xeno-compatability is an S tier weapon if you have a good PC while other players don't. Nuke everyones PCs while you get a million micro managed bio pops with the best bio traits you can get. Xeno-compatability is a weapon that surpasses even the colossus in its deadliness 😈
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
This is pure evil... I love it
@Leo-ok3uj
@Leo-ok3uj 2 жыл бұрын
You MONSTER
@RunFromCities
@RunFromCities 2 жыл бұрын
This is madness!
@thoneras9611
@thoneras9611 2 жыл бұрын
@@RunFromCities This is Stellaris!
@MimicAraiun
@MimicAraiun 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is a joke, but doesn't making everyone else lag while you don't just cause constant desyncs?
@joseangelquintero6022
@joseangelquintero6022 2 жыл бұрын
I use the C and F tier perks in role-playing games. The really help sell my immersion.
@Ash-om2um
@Ash-om2um 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Colossus project should be S tier for the same reason Xeno-compatibility is F tier. Unless you have Armageddon bombardment stance, you can't effectively get rid of the extra pops in the galaxy (after you have had enough pops) to boost game speed and actually end it. It is also essential for Contingency crisis if you have set crisis on high difficulty.
@johnuthus
@johnuthus 2 жыл бұрын
As I play Custodian empires a lot, I hate those fallen empires that purged worlds as they are in violation of section 18
@YagabodooN
@YagabodooN 2 жыл бұрын
useful for getting rid of infested worlds of the scourge too.
@ShummaAwilum
@ShummaAwilum 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things in the game is neutron sweeping fallen empire capitals with my SS Lysol (tm) so I get an op planet without having to amass a hundred or so armies and wait a few years for the battle to finish.
@ShadowcatAlfa
@ShadowcatAlfa 2 жыл бұрын
you just need to send a few more super robots (mega warforms) lol
@Mario-kf3ej
@Mario-kf3ej 2 жыл бұрын
nah Colossus is F tier - I play with Crisis perk 99% of time haha even if I was adamant to play without this time - and with Star Eater for free Collosus value is 0.
@ElysiumCreator
@ElysiumCreator 2 жыл бұрын
Xeno-Compatability, more like micromanagement-annoyance generator
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
This... is very true
@bodbyss
@bodbyss 2 жыл бұрын
Something that you didn't really discuss is that the synthetic ascension requires tier 4 engi researches to even access. This makes the synth path come online much later than the bio ascension. And that one in turn was already even slower to reach than the psy ascension. I think this is good to acknowledge.
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
I think I alluded to the tech requirements, but definitely didn't lay them all out explicitly
@ingold1470
@ingold1470 2 жыл бұрын
It might be a problem, but you could also start with your section of the galaxy cordoned off by 2 fallen empires like I did. Comfiest mechanist game I ever had.
@dracos369y
@dracos369y 2 жыл бұрын
@@ingold1470 hope one of them wasn't holy guardians
@anna-flora999
@anna-flora999 2 жыл бұрын
True, but the technologies you need to have already provide a lot of bonuses along the way
@ingold1470
@ingold1470 2 жыл бұрын
@@dracos369y I think one was, but they only denounce rather than attack unless you settle one of their holy worlds.
@colecook834
@colecook834 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously bio ascension should allow you to transform species as well. To reduce the number of unique species
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
That would such a great inclusion. I also think it would make thematic sense
@eycariot987
@eycariot987 2 жыл бұрын
@@MontuPlays it would. But it would diminish necroids origin
@MinecraftConnected
@MinecraftConnected 2 жыл бұрын
@@MontuPlays It would also fix xenocompatibility
@MrJakeasaur98
@MrJakeasaur98 2 жыл бұрын
@@eycariot987 Not necessarily. There are ascension perks that provide same bonuses to civis/traits, like the raiding stance one, so I think it could work. If you play necrosis, you don't have to spend an ascension perk use that solution, so it serves as a viable alternative.
@majdavlk649
@majdavlk649 2 жыл бұрын
But bio is about specializing species for various jobs
@Albertosn3
@Albertosn3 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I feel should be mentioned that for Consecrated Worlds is that if you Consecrate a Holy World that the Spiritualist Fallen Empire also likes then you can farm reputation with them to the point where they might give you gifts every so often
@DrOwn-hq9ot
@DrOwn-hq9ot 2 жыл бұрын
Far too many ascensions are constant values when they should be percentages
@gamgy2820
@gamgy2820 2 жыл бұрын
I desagree about Universal Transactions, if you have like 10 trade pacts, this can be game changer for MegaCorp(and you need influence for branches), always take when play as MegaCorp. But with 3.3 it is less important.
@NotMorchaste
@NotMorchaste 2 жыл бұрын
As a ring world megacorp enjoyer, it's usually my first pick. It helps you spam commercial pacts and branches early on every planet. Once I get a big enough territory, until I can start building habitats, it's the only thing I can really sink Influence into anyway.
@Maty83.
@Maty83. 2 жыл бұрын
Deffo less important than before with trade feds nowadays. An effect of a trade fed getting more cohesion and you not having to pay for said fed would be amazing.
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maty83. That would be a good boost for an otherwise so-so ascension perk. It does seem somewhat more useful now that Overlord is out as influence is a bit tighter now.
@codexaeterna
@codexaeterna 2 жыл бұрын
Galactic Force Projection should be changed to be a percentage increase to naval cap.
@trolly4233
@trolly4233 Жыл бұрын
Do you know how powerful that would be?
@reedeek1473
@reedeek1473 Жыл бұрын
@@trolly4233 you can always tweak some numbers
@Ravenclaw-ql6kk
@Ravenclaw-ql6kk 2 жыл бұрын
I love doing a tall build with Void Dwellers + Eternal Vigilance + Grasp the Void, so satisfying to see the massive structures in space. Solar Panels are so useful too, wish we could use them as a non-gestalt empire.
@exteareviews7139
@exteareviews7139 2 жыл бұрын
Sonar Panels are too advanced for your fleshy bio scum.
@thedarkcorrupter
@thedarkcorrupter 2 жыл бұрын
They used to be for everyone, but that was also the time where stations could be built above every colonized planet and defense stations could be built anywhere. Long long ago
@AnemoneMeer
@AnemoneMeer 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree on Mastery of Nature. Yes, you could just build a habitat. Habitats cost Alloys that could go into ships. Influence is basically worthless lategame anyway and energy credits are easy to get in bulk. More importantly, it acts as a boost to your Gaia Worlds and Ecumenopoli or similar, which are vastly more productive than Habitats. Furthermore, with Ascending Worlds affecting sprawl penalties, you can make it vastly more efficient to use Mastery of Nature than to build a habitat. Mastery of Nature wants to be your sixth or seventh Ascension, taken after you have Gaia Worlds and Ecumenopoli and all of that built out. It's terrible taken early, but very powerful if taken late.
@indrickboreale7381
@indrickboreale7381 2 жыл бұрын
Mastery of Nature should get "Better over time"
@elethiomelzakalwe4453
@elethiomelzakalwe4453 2 жыл бұрын
As of Overlord Shared Destiny is considerably more useful since it eliminates loyalty penalties for having multiple subjects.
@MasaharaYo
@MasaharaYo 2 жыл бұрын
Xeno compatibility is extremely fun, because you can enable it in multiplayer with a friend that is new to stellaris, and u go easy on them, and let them think they will win, but everybody quits due to lag. And at that point, you reveal the true reason behind the lag: That inter species tentacle sex is immoral and bad for the galaxy as a whole.
@GameboyMega
@GameboyMega 2 жыл бұрын
I just started up stellaris and you release this video! Gonna be helpful I'm sure! 😌
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it helps!
@Wildwolf5910
@Wildwolf5910 2 жыл бұрын
You have no clue man, he becomes God himself VERY quickly! Have fun with this amazing game
@Hungry_God
@Hungry_God 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about genetic ascention is that if you go megacorp with zombies you can get even crazier pop growth (although slightly worse).
@OGSaltBreaker
@OGSaltBreaker 2 жыл бұрын
psst, one of the corporate death cult edicts adds another +1 pop assembly on top of that even at the minimum amount of initiates
@Hungry_God
@Hungry_God 2 жыл бұрын
@@OGSaltBreaker when I try it the edit expires eight away. I think it's bugged, may be wrong
@OGSaltBreaker
@OGSaltBreaker 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hungry_God its not a toggle like the others. it activates a 5 year buff
@onepangaean3018
@onepangaean3018 2 жыл бұрын
I mean doesn't that still have nothing on hive mind spawning pools + budding + clone vats
@OGSaltBreaker
@OGSaltBreaker 2 жыл бұрын
@@onepangaean3018 budding stacks with the posthumous center too so adding that makes it equivalent if not slightly faster with the edict in pure assembly. might even slightly edge hive out in growth with xenophobe ethics and nutritional plenitude. dealing with the sprawl penalty from doing that certainly requires a different approach though.
@egesentug6439
@egesentug6439 2 жыл бұрын
consacrate only works if u spawn next to holy guardian fallen empire each consecration on holy worlds give +30 relations and when you cons all 3 holy worlds it rounds up to %25 unity and %15 amenities and %25 sp ethics attraction
@Austin555661
@Austin555661 2 жыл бұрын
Easy way to do this too Just be fanatic and take the uh Scion? Start
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 2 жыл бұрын
@@Austin555661 That would be the optimal way to do it.
@sirensoulegaming4158
@sirensoulegaming4158 Жыл бұрын
@@Austin555661 If only Scion spawned you right next to the Fallen empire. In My experience they're on the other side of the galaxy lol
@tehrandomfreak
@tehrandomfreak 2 жыл бұрын
RE consecrated worlds and eternal vigilance Specifically for void dwellers, CW isn't outright terrible. You're not going to be using planets anyway and will probably have some within your space even if you did minimal expansion. The increases to spirtualist popularity can indirectly boost your resources a bit by increasing the percentage of your population that are spiritualists, and they're pretty easy to please. EV is 'kinda' useful for voidies too; more starbases means more hydroponics, and it's possible to float your food economy entirely on hydroponics for much of the game. Doubly so if you go megacorp and take the civic that gives +4 to starbases. Both of these can compensate for voidies naturally low population and thereofore low ship capacity with more affordable starbases for anchorages, and/or more refineries if you have access to a nebula.
@eycariot987
@eycariot987 2 жыл бұрын
Even as a void dweller it is much simpler and much more efficient to take somethere second species to colonise this worlds. You can stumble upon some utterly usless planets to use it on. But most of the time it is too niche. Paradox should buff it to give something like happiness
@Nomadic_Gaming
@Nomadic_Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
consecrated worlds is useful if you have spiritualist neighboring fallen empires consecrate their holy worlds and boom easy planets you cant use yet and itll curry favor w them too for void dwellers its ok for a spiritual megacorp btw who gain more from spiritual pops its big for the ethics attraction to try and stack that and maximize spiritualist pops and pops in branch office empires its niche but its niche uses are very good
@Nikarus2370
@Nikarus2370 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nomadic_Gaming Yeah if I'm trying to go psionic (and thus am spiritualist), and I start seeing FE holy worlds around, CW can be solid. As if you get some favor with the FE so they'll trade with you... you can basically offload your economic issues onto the FE and build up like crazy.
@Nomadic_Gaming
@Nomadic_Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nikarus2370 exactly plus the potential of them not bullying you outright if they awaken later vs other empires first especially if you find zarklons head yeah having a spiritualist fallen empire as a buddy is great and w unity being s bigger thing ingame now its a solid pick and as i said 3 good top tier consecrated worlds plust spiritualist empire especially a megacorp one it can do wonders for your economy and ethics attractiveness and help magnify the effect of temples on branch offices and depending on how overlord shakes things up making other empires slowly fall into your ethics and thus more agreeable to you may make federations or even possibly taking them over via diplomatic means which right the the ai ALWAYS refuses alot easier
@Archcowan
@Archcowan 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing this video from you gave me the spur to move forwards to 3.3 (I only started playing a few months ago and didn't want to have to unlearn everything). Thanks for your hard work!
@Jernsaxe
@Jernsaxe 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that "Grasp the Void" is high A tier. It is so damn good. Once upgraded this gives you 180 naval cap, 50 food, 10.000 storage capacity (assuming you build anchorage with storage and hydro). In y30 PvP games I take Executive Vigor into Grasp the Void in any game where I don't rush psionics. Both have so much early game power that they are worth it, even though they fall off in the very late game.
@pancakes4193
@pancakes4193 2 жыл бұрын
It is also outright bonkers for Gestalt Consciousness, who can specialize their economy even further since they can just primarily rely on starbases for energy. I always take it when I play as either a Machine Intelligence or a Hive Mind.
@thenazzarow5789
@thenazzarow5789 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Seeing Grasp the void and galactic force projection in the same tier hurts me. Grasp is just a straigt up upgrade to galactic force projection.
@andrelanyak2131
@andrelanyak2131 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Jernsaxe
@Jernsaxe 2 жыл бұрын
@@pancakes4193 While the early energy option is indeed good it doesn't compare to how good the naval cap is. Each upgraded anchorage gives 36 cap, the same as 6 upgraded soldier jobs. So 5 Star Fortress is equal to 30 pop jobs. While that might not be a lot in the super lategame, for the first 100 years it is amazing!
@Manoomu
@Manoomu 2 жыл бұрын
@@pancakes4193 Next time you do hive mind try the ocean paradise origin. It guarantees a nebula which means nebula refineries which means refined gas on top of the energy, food, and minerals.
@SarahSmiles_97
@SarahSmiles_97 2 жыл бұрын
Great work as always, I always enjoy listening to your tier lists! I'd love to see a video talking about shroud mechanics under the psionic ascension path.
@xelion101
@xelion101 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like the Mastery of Nature perk. Since all of my worlds are always heavily specialized getting to add two more districts and thus more jobs that benefit from those specializations and buffing structures always seems good to me.
@pancakes4193
@pancakes4193 2 жыл бұрын
They also have good synergy with Terravores, especially with Calamitous Birth. You can get plenty of pops from the tile blockers pretty cheaply. The perk also funnily enough allows them to munch more on a planet, and it's a useful influence sink in the 3.3 meta.
@Dan-zg1dq
@Dan-zg1dq 2 жыл бұрын
Big brain ascension perk in F tier, *damn*
@Mastari
@Mastari 2 жыл бұрын
Interested to know how you would improve all the Asc. Perks in to S tier picks? Or at least the very subpar ones in C and F tier. Maybe in another theory crafting video?
@eligoldman9200
@eligoldman9200 2 жыл бұрын
World shaper is really really good for xenophile because gia worlds have a higher attraction bonus to refuges and if there is a war anywhere you just get flooded with pops. If you make it a resort world you never have to worry about amenities for the rest of the game.
@Jablecznik
@Jablecznik 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great vid as always! World shaper is really underrated IMO - with the introduction of terraforming events related to gaia worlds, you can get some OP random bonuses to your planets this way. Try it out some time, you will be surprised :) The perk also synergizes quite well with the Life-seeded, Shattered Ring or Void dwellers origins for obvious reasons (habitability)
@EnderraphaXX
@EnderraphaXX 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I really enjoy rankings, specially with detailed explanations like that. And about the crisis perk, I think a video about it would be cool, I took it in once of my games until star eaters (I usually go only until lv 4 and stop there) and realized 2 strange things: The first is that the design of star eaters seems bugged and small lasers occupy the medium slots, so the base design is weaker than it looks. The other one is that I seemed to unlock loads of advanced techs like battleships and gamma lasers while having blue lasers because I focused all my planets in mineral/energy and no research for menacing spam (And I had no need for any other resource as the components cost basically 0). If this is intended then you can somehow Unity rush and have ships that are decades ahead of everyone, even more with enigmatic engineering, not even taking the star eater into account.
@RunFromCities
@RunFromCities 2 жыл бұрын
As far as defense platforms are concerned it's worth noting the 2 repeatable techs for it gives 10% more damage and 10% more hull as a opposed to 5% for one weapon type and benefits from all the other repeatables. So strictly speaking it could do more damage buts it's more of a win more strategy or a crises x25 strategy.
@nikbrown3978
@nikbrown3978 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these premier Stellaris tier lists 🙂
@madisonhartley5707
@madisonhartley5707 2 жыл бұрын
Worldshaper is super useful when your empire has a large mix of different species, especially if you're conquering worlds and gaining low-stability planets. It's a nice way to quickly boost stability without too much effort. (the pops are a lot happier in paradise!) Combine it with the reduced terraforming time edict and terraforming doesn't take too long. The energy cost becomes almost negligable as the game goes on so long as your economy is strong. Also, you can get it fairly early if you prioritize terraforming tech. If you go in with the idea you're grabbing worldshaper, you can also safely prioritize other techs, stat imrpovements, etc. over habitability. There are a lot of situations where it isn't a good pick, but it really comes down to the type of empire you're playing as.
@sirensoulegaming4158
@sirensoulegaming4158 Жыл бұрын
Other things to add to this - there's a chance to roll an event when you terraform inhabited planets that make those pops "gaia trapped", whch essentially just gives them Gaia preference. Once all your planets are gaia worlds, you can gene mod this to all your other pops for an extra production bonus, Add Bio Ascension and you can genemod negative traits, you can give your pops non-adaptive - Essentially 2 free trait points. Then, Sign migration treaties with every single empire you can. Having gaia worlds, other empires pops aren't pcky about where they migrate to. Having gaia preference species, your pops are INCREDIBLY picky. it's so good xD. When other empires pops start migrating in you can give them non-adaptive too.
@azamirazathoth6197
@azamirazathoth6197 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, thank you for the content.
@bautibunge737
@bautibunge737 2 жыл бұрын
I really like insterstellar dominion for the early game, like the first or sometimes the seccond ascension perk. Its true that in mid-game and late you'll have max influence, but at the beginning when you're raceing for chokepoints its very usefull to secure vast parts of the galaxy with few chokepoints
@damonedrington3453
@damonedrington3453 2 жыл бұрын
When he got to Eternal Vigilance I was like “Wait… you don’t set up starbases at critical chokeholds for rp purposes?”
@luigimrlgaming9484
@luigimrlgaming9484 2 жыл бұрын
No I don’t I do it for practical purposes
@sovietunion7643
@sovietunion7643 2 жыл бұрын
@@luigimrlgaming9484 yeah, i don't understand why no one else does that. maybe im just a descendant of ww1 soldiers and like defense in depth. upgraded starbases at chokepoints mixed with smaller defense fleets can put a stop to crisis spreading or buy you time to regroup and plan if you are getting invaded by a superior enemy. in a perfect world yes you can just make a bigger fleet and protect yourself but what if you mess up or your fleet in the wrong place, and now the unbidden just ripped out 5 of your worlds and now you have to spend 5 years rooting them out. thats 5 years of time you (and the galaxy for that matter) might not have.
@luigimrlgaming9484
@luigimrlgaming9484 2 жыл бұрын
@@sovietunion7643 tbh in my situation it’s usually other empires as it seems that if you hit a large unbidden fleet with everything you got they just freeze and stop doing stuff I dunno why
@luigimrlgaming9484
@luigimrlgaming9484 2 жыл бұрын
@eek how do you get 200k starbase?
@heythere2115
@heythere2115 Жыл бұрын
I always take starbases; they are basically tanky ships that don't take up naval capacity. I make a few templates and mix them, I use mostly large platforms for the alpha strike. Sometimes I make these with no armour and shields, sometimes just tier 1. But the best weapons. I make a hanger platform(along with the Hanger Bay on the starbase), these are my second most used. Strike craft are the best PD in the game, and they kill corvettes. Never use the PD station section. My third platform I use is just a light/medium one. These do a better job at killing corvettes, annihilate destroyers and do okay against cruisers. And my forth and last design is a 2 missile and 2 torpedo platform and I will only build a max of one per station. These destroy battleships and cruisers, and tank damage for the strike craft. If you stack platform perks, you can easily get over well over 20 platforms on a station. My stations by early mid game are 20K power and my main stations are 35k power, and the enemies attacking me will have 7k fleets. Which means I only need offensive ships in my fleet(like torpedoes and heavy slots) to destroy enemy starbases. And all my platforms are full armour with one shield. However you can make them with less or no armour/shields, or with downgraded armour/shields - which makes them cheaper glass cannons. This is the same in HOI4, you have the ability to create massed cheaper weaker designs and you should play around with that. Defence platforms don't need to be tanky or expensive. 23(46 guns) heavy slot defence platforms on a station with no armour will destroy a fleet before the fleet is in range, and these are really cheap. And this is better than having 10 heavy tanky platforms that cost twice the amount and get killed due to their lower damage. People think platforms should be tanky, but if they can't kill fleets within the first few days - the station going to lose anyway. You can also make platforms with no guns, just full armour, I don't recommend them but they are really cheap and can be used as place-holders until you can afford normal platforms. You can't do this with ships, weaker ships just always lose. But platforms already have 1000 hull points at the start of the game and all platform designs can be created in the first year. You can do a lot with platforms. Even if you don't use starbase perks, you should build platforms anyway. - which is why I recommend cheap glass cannons just to max the amount. You will not believe how cheap it is. Think about it like this. A platform with no modules costs 88 alloys and gives the starbase 1000 hull points. Think of it as a starbase upgrade that says "+1000 hullpoints" and costs just 88 alloys. (however I do recommend you always put guns on platforms). By the late game you can just use the best designs because platforms peak in cost at about 380 alloys, with is nothing.
@ashtonrene1524
@ashtonrene1524 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on the Become the Crisis! I recently got back to Stellaris and you channel has been a huge help in going from 2.6 to 3.3. Thanks a bunch~
@Charles-wu3lh
@Charles-wu3lh 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to like the early game more than the late game, so when I would set up I'd crank the tech cost and number of alien empires all the way up to max. That way I'd get more time in the corvette/destroyer era, which I found fun at the time. Crisis killed that when it came out. Crisis Aspirants aren't limited by the tech tree and it became the fastest way to get to cruisers. One day you'd be the badest MF'r in the galaxy with phat stacks of corvettes, the next you're getting "existentially expelled" by a fleet of Menacing Cruisers backed up by a Star-Eater ...now I'm wondering if maybe that is still the case. A spiritualist doomsday-cult unity rush should be able to get to Crisis in a hurry. Quick enough that they may be able to end they universe before any of the filthy xeno's even get battleships.
@MannBilimoria
@MannBilimoria Жыл бұрын
Great video! I almost agree with most of the list here. The thing i love about this game the most is just how much freedom it gives you. Except for some shitty perks like the Leader cap, a lot of B or C tier perks let you play the game differently. I like that they dont force you down a rabbit hole of just choosing some ascencion perks to stay alive and instead give you multiple options to achieve the same thing. Some perks are stronger than the other methods available, but atleast there are multiple methods available so you can pick and pace your game yourself!
@evanstrong6239
@evanstrong6239 2 жыл бұрын
Montu could you do a tier list of the regular biological empire civics? And amazing video as always ALL HAIL MONTU
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to link you to the video... and then I realised I havent released it (yet). Don't worry! You'll see it soon
@evanstrong6239
@evanstrong6239 2 жыл бұрын
@@MontuPlays Haha thanks! You really are good at interacting with your audience and followers thank you
@paulroberts5622
@paulroberts5622 2 жыл бұрын
That intro fitted so well 👍👍
@hellwraith13
@hellwraith13 2 жыл бұрын
The F Tier should be called the "On The Surface it looks good" tier :P
@litchgath
@litchgath 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Montu!
@johnw3216
@johnw3216 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Would personally love a become the crisis video!
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
Its my latest video! You can find it on the channel page
@johnw3216
@johnw3216 2 жыл бұрын
@@MontuPlays Oh, sorry for my blindness! Thank you for the Stellaris content!
@tristenatorplaysgames6833
@tristenatorplaysgames6833 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you underated eternal vigilance being able to not have to yield a fleet for most of the game until late game is amazing not to mention it lets you play super tall and ignore most empires to attack you.
@klop3re
@klop3re 2 жыл бұрын
The juggernaut get the starbase bonus to
@tristenatorplaysgames6833
@tristenatorplaysgames6833 2 жыл бұрын
@@klop3re really? I didn’t know that I always wondered why mine had such high fleet power
@Hawtmilk
@Hawtmilk 2 жыл бұрын
Nihilistic Acquisition really becomes special for rogue servitors. I almost always take it and "rescue" pops to come live in my bio-trophy worlds and I have all the unity I want as well as that nice +1% to complex drone output
@FireCrauter
@FireCrauter 10 ай бұрын
Great video. please, the next video, put icons to Ascension Perks advantages that are in the base game.
@skullaveraz
@skullaveraz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that pro tip about xeno compatibility!!! No wonder my game is running slow as. Maybe you can make a video for game performance tips?
@justinthompson6364
@justinthompson6364 2 жыл бұрын
One of the big reasons _I_ like colossus project is for the total war wargoal, though maybe that's not as important anymore with the influence changes? Having to claim empires system by system used to get pretty expensive, especially when you could be spending that influence on megastructures instead.
@nwahally
@nwahally 2 жыл бұрын
"Stellaris Tier list? Count me in." *The Master stares at me* "You had my attention, now you have my curiosity."
@harlequingnoll5
@harlequingnoll5 2 жыл бұрын
When I tried xenocom I ended up with so many choices the icons merged together and I never knew which species was going on a colony ship
@twister4839
@twister4839 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell us more about “become a crisis” ascension perk!
@apollogamer8758
@apollogamer8758 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a a become the crisis video! :)
@bohba13
@bohba13 2 жыл бұрын
okay. the scean where that intro was from, one of the best doctor who specials of all time.
@comedyshortsgamer5688
@comedyshortsgamer5688 2 жыл бұрын
Nihlistic aquisition is god tier if pulled of correctly and is 100% necessary for a tall empire. I often find that many of my planets late game have few pops due to slowed pop growth, so the solition is to centralize your pops on fewer worlds such as ecuemenopli and use the world asc
@blahmaster6k
@blahmaster6k 2 жыл бұрын
Imo it's still better to just conquer the planets. It's good if you don't have the ability to claim every planet but other than that it's just worse than conquest.
@ARC1701A
@ARC1701A 2 жыл бұрын
I wish different star classes generated different energy yields from Dyson spheres. A pulsar should generate more than a dead red. There are also some dead red giants that are actually bigger than the Dyson, and it looks weird with it partly in and out of the star.
@charliebatchelder2753
@charliebatchelder2753 2 жыл бұрын
I see a Montu upload, I click. All your vids are masterpieces my guy.
@Killercoddbz
@Killercoddbz 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh this is a fantastic idea!
@Mrbush9001
@Mrbush9001 2 жыл бұрын
Consecrated worlds can be pretty useful if you border a spiritualist fe, as it allows you to get some use out of those tempting Gaia worlds and also gives you an opinion bonus to the fe
@timothypeterson4781
@timothypeterson4781 2 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely agree with the others saying Grasp the Void is higher. It's so versatile it's almost never a bad choice. Naval capacity, trade, storage, or just being a very irritating roadblock for the enemy to invade (you know, until the end game.)
@kennethcole2061
@kennethcole2061 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a become the crisis video!
@gavin7683
@gavin7683 2 жыл бұрын
its brave coming out with a tier list right after the announcement of an update and dlc that wil change and add perks
@aussieplatinum
@aussieplatinum Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the Become the crisis, please do a video!!
@AK47Uprising
@AK47Uprising 2 жыл бұрын
I personally like grasp the void as I usually rely on starbases for border defense until I get to cruisers and I can’t do it nearly as fast as you lol. Plus I can use them for hydroponics bays, solar panels arrays, or anchorages to get a better amount of naval capacity than force projection. I like it because it’s versatile. I’d put it in B myself but I get your reasoning because you’re really playing on another level than I am. Agree with the rest of the list though.
@nerif6776
@nerif6776 2 жыл бұрын
Why exactly u need cruisers?
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 2 жыл бұрын
5:45 Maybe a good thing to make that one more viable is to add the feature of the at war mod. Where defense platform are not destroyed but are disabled at 1hp. Sort of like starbases and generate their health. Maybe though since it's an ascension perk they don't regenerate when under the control of another empire unless they themselves have eternal vigilance. If it's under control of another empire that doesn't it will just stay disabled at 1hp. If the war ends and they get to keep the territory all the disabled defense platforms would self-destruct. It would keep defense platforms somewhat viable even late game. Sure they can't stop fleets but since they essentially replace themselves for free they can really add to attrition.
@TheSpectralFX
@TheSpectralFX 2 жыл бұрын
@montu Plays, My dude, plan for Aquatic biological, devouring swarm hivemind that takes the Hydrocentric perk and then the colossus perk to instantly terraform enemy planets and colonize them. take the new ocean paradise start, also take the catalystic foundry perk (whatever the one that replaces mineral with food). Combine all that with nihilistic aquisition and you just slowly but surely eat the entire galactic pop. Finally you go the megastructures route after all that and you'll end up with the ability to snowball into an end game where you are just having alloys out of your ears and just not enough build capacity to ever outrun your alloy production... you'll either crash your energy credits from too much fleet or just, literally, not have enough queue capacity to build more ringworlds. Its quite crazy!
@evenmoor
@evenmoor 2 жыл бұрын
Consecrated Worlds does have a niche use if you have the spiritualist fallen empire in the game - normally you can't colonize their holy worlds without ticking them off anyway (unless you have the Head of Zarqlan artifact), and consecrating the holy worlds also gives you a rep bonus with them, if I remember correctly.
@alexandercaires5921
@alexandercaires5921 2 жыл бұрын
Crisis video please? Something I noticed during my current Ironman game and your video is that in my modded stellaris games; I had additional ascension perk slots that let me pick many of the F and C tier list perks. I found that most of them are pretty good in the early and mid game stages. However; because vanilla is limited to eight perks these rather lackluster options get drowned out by obvious better choices. Paradox either needs to add another row of ascension perks to make the F and C tiers usable as is or buff them heavily to make them at least viable.
@peterknutsen3070
@peterknutsen3070 2 жыл бұрын
6:30 with Wormholes, it is also often too difficult to defend all entrances to your territory, and unless there are Bastion Starbases at every single entrance, it's a bit pointless. Also, I highly recommend the mod Perked Up Perks. It really boosts some weak Perks, such ad Transcendent Learning.
@chattychatotchannel
@chattychatotchannel 2 жыл бұрын
I think the naval cap ascension perk is even less relevant when you consider the one that lets you build multiple megastructures at once and faster which means you can build one of those command centre megastructures and get loads of bonuses
@julthefool150
@julthefool150 Жыл бұрын
Generally speaking yes, but unless you mod stellaris you can only build one strategy mega structure and thats it. But since you can also spam starbases and thus increase naval cap the naval cap asc perk is indeed useless
@jordinromijn8702
@jordinromijn8702 2 жыл бұрын
Nice tierlist. Maybe an update vid since the release of overlord.
@gusgee1337
@gusgee1337 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Please do a Becoming the Crisis episode. Please.
@bubba2861
@bubba2861 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a Become the Crisis video, I’m sort of a noob and would love that video.
@-aaa-aaa
@-aaa-aaa 2 жыл бұрын
I would like a video on the 'Become the Crisis', would be very helpful.
@fredhurst2528
@fredhurst2528 2 жыл бұрын
I like the ratings as viewed for usefulness in powering up. I think a lot of the lower rated ones are more appropriate for RP playthroughs.
@nickandres7829
@nickandres7829 2 жыл бұрын
Interstellar Dominion is one I frequently take when my (usually relatively peaceful) civ happens upon a sudden sector of unclaimed space, or a chunk of space between myself and another civ that is chock-full of habitable planets or Archeological dig sites. The massive gains to the size and potency of my civ seem more than worth it. I'd never taken the edict perk in past versions, though I can see the appeal of it now. I also very rarely take the Arcology perk, since usually by the time I unlock it, I have two slots left and Arcology, Megastructures, Colossus and maybe Synthetic Ascension available. I suppose if you're all synthetics, being able to slam down Arcologies would be really useful. But I kind of find like with Terraforming, by the time you can do that, you probably don't really need to anymore
@DreadlordMik
@DreadlordMik 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the list. People seem to play biological ascension like you talked about with creating multiple differenct species specialiasing in different things, but I generally just put on erudite, robust and a few other things and call it a day. Guess I'm not min-maxing well enough. On an unrelated note: have you played a necrophage hive? Would love to see that and any tips for playing that.
@thorzap1374
@thorzap1374 2 жыл бұрын
Worth pointing out that if you Consecrate one of a Spiritualist Fallen Empire's holy worlds you get a decent reputation bonus with that fallen empire. Could be useful if you happen to be playing a Spiritualist empire and spawn near one such holy world but otherwise it's only really useful in the early game if you find a world you can't colonize for whatever reason.
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
Im failry confident if you consecrate any world, and turn it into aholy world you get a +30 bonus to relations with the spiritualist fallen empire
@thorzap1374
@thorzap1374 2 жыл бұрын
@@MontuPlays You'd know better than I would, thought there was an extra bonus for consecrating the same worlds as the spiritualist fallen empire but I'm probably mistaken
@Normalizer-xs3sj
@Normalizer-xs3sj 2 жыл бұрын
What about consecrated worlds for void dwellers?
@nathaniverson9159
@nathaniverson9159 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that synthetic ascension overrides special biological traits, like clone warrior ascendant or void dweller. Clones should take psy ascension, as the psionic trait stacks with their special trait, and void dwellers should take bio ascension to specialize the pops on each habitat.
@53Aquilae
@53Aquilae 2 жыл бұрын
Hi montu, what are the best ship designs after repeatables are stacked high enough? Eagerly waiting for that video.
@RuerlKhan
@RuerlKhan 2 жыл бұрын
On the hydrocentic: It has a good combination with mastery of nature if you want to play tall - I frequently take both, but those are more RP options than anything else.
@Doombot221
@Doombot221 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be down to hear more about becoming the crisis. I don't have nemesis rn so I've been wondering about it
@toxicalyss
@toxicalyss 2 жыл бұрын
Eternal Vigilance really helped a lot with my turtling as an isolationist RP. It was that same starbase that help defeated Shard the Ether Drake, Priktiti's Star Eater and the Reckoning...
@megumin_6548
@megumin_6548 2 жыл бұрын
Now I need to know where that clip from the start came from
@jackw1791
@jackw1791 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty new player, just got my first set of DLC, Set up a perfect empire to finally do a synthetic Ascension but didn’t realize you couldn’t do genetic perk first and now I gotta go back like two hours
@Hlevi87
@Hlevi87 2 жыл бұрын
There is one excellent use for World Shaper: if you play with assimilators and choose Nihilistic aquisition as a means of growing your pops, than having gaia worlds all accross your board is plain brilliant (that's the only time I used it, though)
@QuestionableObject
@QuestionableObject 2 жыл бұрын
Perks like COnsecrated worlds that're mostly flavour are one of the reasons I want more perk slots, there's so much competition for space in the slots that it just comes down to what unlocks the most content/advantage for me rather than what actually fits for my empire.
@markbehringer2021
@markbehringer2021 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a shame about xeno-compatibility, I often take it and find it extremely powerful. I haven’t experienced any problems personally but my PC is a bit of beast. The only one of these I hard disagree on is world shaper- I take it all the time. if you are a Xenophile empire, having perfect habitability on all planets for all species is huge! It also reduces the micro burden, and the happiness and output bonus, as well as extra planet capacity, are a solid buff! And I usually find that by the mid game, I am swimming in energy credits anyway.
@skullaveraz
@skullaveraz 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering what your CPU is? I'm having severe lag late game (xeno on, medium galaxy) even with a decent rig
@markbehringer2021
@markbehringer2021 2 жыл бұрын
@@skullaveraz I have an 8700k
@skullaveraz
@skullaveraz 2 жыл бұрын
@@markbehringer2021 lol I have the same CPU but I can't run on fastest speed late game for some reason. Did you overclock by any chance? Also, completely agree with you on World Shaper. It's probably best if you're playing wide and for if you take over the L-cluster. Though it can be a tad less useful if you're playing tall, or maybe if you happen to get the Last Baol relic though
@markbehringer2021
@markbehringer2021 2 жыл бұрын
@@skullaveraz no I am running stock frequency! How’s your CPU cooler? Could it maybe be thermal throttling? just thinking of ideas.
@mezarisage6055
@mezarisage6055 2 жыл бұрын
I do run mastery of nature but that's mostly because a mod I use buffs it to let you unlock three extra district slots for mining, farming and energy districts for a total of nine extra slots.
@j.scottwigginsjr.3946
@j.scottwigginsjr.3946 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think Galatic Force Projection could be higher if it granted a percentage based increase? For example, plus 5% Naval Capacity and plus 10% fleet command limit or something along tose lines
@swolecanadian4018
@swolecanadian4018 2 жыл бұрын
Especially considering the focus is on the Galactic Scale, +20 fleet command limit is much less than the average 10% by the late game
@AGrumpyPanda
@AGrumpyPanda 2 жыл бұрын
It needs an update to reflect the current game, back in the day (and I mean REALLY back in the day) it was a top tier pick for supertall and one planet builds, but now it barely gives you anything.
@Flugzeugdreger
@Flugzeugdreger 2 жыл бұрын
Interstellar Dominion is very strong in early game, provided you're playing a land grab strategy (that's why it's represented by a tentacle alien in my opinion). I usually take it for precisely that reason, but I suck at playing tall so that's probably a bad statregy compared to the meta.
@tolgahanguney4770
@tolgahanguney4770 2 жыл бұрын
I usually pick collossus project for the total war casus belli, as it allows me to mobilize better and just rush the enemy down.
@MontuPlays
@MontuPlays 2 жыл бұрын
Be careful though, a door opens both ways
@Peoples_Republic_of_Cotati
@Peoples_Republic_of_Cotati 2 жыл бұрын
I would like a tier list of Galactic Community Laws.
@ingold1470
@ingold1470 2 жыл бұрын
Consecrating worlds gets better the more planets there are in the galaxy. Missing out on 3 planets for a global bonus to the other 50 is pretty nice, and the micro will be so annoying by that point that you'll hate yourself for colonising those worlds anyway.
@willferrous8677
@willferrous8677 2 жыл бұрын
also having the religious fallen empire liking you can be useful.
@vpliskin3590
@vpliskin3590 2 жыл бұрын
Using mostly the perks you ranked S felt... satisfying ! Not sure about executive vigor though. Before 3.3, it felt almost overpowered (+50 % minerals and energy with no upkeep !), but now I'm not so sure, I usually just build a mega-art + unification planet and deal with the unity deficit if needed. Anyway, love your work.
@hunter_noah
@hunter_noah 2 жыл бұрын
A video on how to play the crisis would be nice
@MYPSYAI
@MYPSYAI Жыл бұрын
I use transcendent learning but only with a certain build that stacks as many xp buffs as possible. It is possible to get very high levels and it's kind of a fun playstyle.
@davidmor9276
@davidmor9276 2 жыл бұрын
I would bump eternal vigilance up to B I love holding choke points. I have had bases at 250k+ fleet power add that with a Hab + army base makes the system untouchable. I would move Nihilistic Acquisition up to A if I am also doing synthetic as it give me real pops that I don't have to mess with. I don't think I have ever taken One Vision or Executive Vigor.
@lauranusen8357
@lauranusen8357 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you update this with Overlord and the latest update.
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