Mooer GE 250: how tone capture procedure works and sounds vs a Marshall Plexi

Hello everybody, this new video has 2 objectives: the first one is to show you how the Tone Capture procedure of the GE 250 works and then to compare the tone captured by the GE 250 with the one of a real Plexi, that is my SV 20. In order to do it, we will go through the following arguments:
- How to connect the GE 250 to the amp you want to capture and how the capturing procedure works
- We will hear the results comparing the sound captured by the GE 250 to the one of the source amp, also verifying how the Dynamic range of your guitar and your playing is going to be handled by the GE 250
- Then we will hear tone capture in a real song alternating it with the one of the real Plexi, to verify if we can actually hear the differences in a real mix
- Finally I will give you my 2 cents, also with some reference to the Profiling procedure of the Kemper…
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[@leotanaseify]

Great job Leo, very useful video. I've just discovered your channel and I've been impressed by the professionalism of the tests and of course by your playing technique. Keep going and thank you for your work.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you Leo!!! Your appreciation and supports really means a lot to me!!!

[@Active-guitar]

Amazing demo again, thank you! Now I understand how that Tone Capture works actually. When I listened at the end in the mix, it was practically impossible for me to tell the difference. I haven't expected such a great feature in a medium price range unit. I'm really impressed. Oh, and your playing is incredible!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you!!!

[@jerrysitumorang5186]

Wow! Ge 250 is very cool of what it could achieve. I honestly couldn't tell the difference once it's mixed with other things. Salute to you Leo! Your guitar playing ability is way up there!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you Yeremia, your feedback is really important for me!!!

[@britoav]

Awesome demo, i had the GE200...i don't know if you have tried it yet, but i had the same problem with the ge200, but i fixed most of it by using the "Mooer G-6" in the Eq block, using it between the amp and the cab block, most amps in the mooer benefits pretty well when you cut some dbs in the 100hz, 200hz, 400hz and 3.2hz...doing that you can go back to the amp block and dial the bass from there, so you don't lose the amp's bass characteristics, it feels more alive, the mooer pedalboards are quite tricky to get a close tone to the real, but with a lot of work it really shines, it doesn't come close to the real thing in terms of dynamic range. But i hope you can get a closer tone from it by using the eq block! Thanks for the awesome video, great content and quality.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi Lucas, thank you so much!!! I will try to follow your suggestion. Thank you for sharing it in my channel, I really appreciated it, and obviously also many thanks for your appreciation of the video!!!

[@atkef2]

good comparison. keep on the quality work!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, appreciated!!!

[@francescoimpellizzeri3843]

Thank you Leo for your nice demo. Everything is very nice , I mean your elegant playing, clear explanations and video editing. I want mention that the behaviour of the valve is very different in comparison of the digital processor. In my experience I can feel the valve has more mid and high range harmonics.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you Francesco, really appreciated! Thank you also for sharing your opinion with us!!!

[@Active-guitar]

Yes, I've got the same impression, mids and high was a bit more rich in the Plexi.

[@jmar482]

Leo, your fast becoming my favorite YT guitar gear reviewer. Your playing is fantastic and your in depth review of each piece of gear is well explained. I really like the way you A/B the amps with their corresponding models. With regards to the Moore GE250, do you know what DSP processor it uses? I can’t seem to find it anywhere in Moore’s documentation.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi James, thank you so much! You message and appreciation really make me happy!!! Unfortunately I don't know...it would be pretty interesting to know...so, if someone has better info, please drop a message here!

[@kenmasters007]

Great video and great insight on the kemper comparison... would like to know if the mooer tone capture has any constraints... for example, can it capture correctly amps that are not already programmed ? a plexi is a very common amp... try capturing a boutique amp for example..

[@DrejcD]

Leo, your guitar playing.... wow, just wow. #subscribed Awesome channel. 👌 💯

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you! Really really appreciated!!!

[@portuguesebeer5069]

Theres pure magic powers in that Marshall, but the Ge250 is awesome! I enjoy your song, that at my ears sounds like a crunchy hard rock. Cheers from Portugal, my friend! 🤘🍺

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, appreciated...you know that when you like my music...I'm happy!

[@rveurope]

Great Demo.....seems that some innovation and ingenuity gives more and more features and better sound for the buck! I start to like this device! Nice job done! 👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, appreciated! I do agree with you!

[@deHelli]

Great Channel!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, really appreciated!!!

[@napalmhardcore]

Hi Leo. I was wondering if during the comparison the power amp modelling was enabled on the Mooer. If it was, would that not explain the difference in tone (Marshall preamp vs Mooer preamp+power amp)?

[@robbah9939]

Nice test! I agree, in the mix it was ok. But with only the guitar the difference is bigger.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for your message, and thank your for sharing your opinion with our community!

[@fahmiamie7223]

nice review .

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, appreciated!!!

[@nologo24]

Omg capture sound are good dynamic same amp very love sound

[@albanalli7576]

Nice work !

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you!

[@albanalli7576]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Is there a drop pedal to play metal but stay tuned standart ? And also is it fast to switch banks ? 3 sounds may not be enough (the mooer 300 is too expensive for me ^^ )

[@miguelvergara9890]

Thank you!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome!!!

[@victorlaw4256]

Leo great video. Thank you! I have a small combo amp, it's a Yamaha THR10X. I came up with a tone which I would really like to capture, probably with the GE250. My THR10X only has a guitar socket, a headphone socket and an Aux socket (for mobile phone and mp3 song playback). Obviously the 4 cable method will not work here. Is there any other way we could get around to achieve the tone capture? Many Thanks Leo.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you Victor, really appreciated! I don't own the THR, so I cannot be sure, but I don't think you can use the tone capture feature, as the THR miss the needed ports. Thank you once more.

[@emmancastillo8679]

Great work as always Leo! In your opinion, what sounds best? The Tone captured sounds by these units or the GNR modeled amps of GElabs?Or...the stock amp modeling of the ampero? Thanks for your time, have a great day!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, I think that the GE Lab profile of a full rig, just capture a specific set up and it does it pretty well, I mean it is pretty realistic. The Tone capture is more flexible as you can pair to whatever cab / IR you want. If you use the tone capture, you have to use very good IRs, that let the profile shine. So it's really a matter of what you are searching for. As regards the Ampero, I think that the stock amp are pretty good, but you still need to use very good IRs, to let this models shine. Thank you for your question!

[@janaondegeng]

WoW, great video! I am impressed. Do you think this works as well with Fuzzes and overdrive?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm super happy that you like the video! I've not tested the unit with pedals so I can't answer from direct experience....but I've read that it "copy" pedals pretty well. Thank you once more!

[@pinoonip8069]

Video fantastico

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Grazie, sono super contento che ti sia piaciuto!!!

[@Dr3amDisturb3r]

How can I finetune the captured tone like this without using a parallel mixer like you do in this video? I want to 'steal' the amps from the rehearsal place I go to.

[@bikersoncall]

2:58 Why would we seemingly blindly mess with the eq and gain, before listening to the amp, wouldn't that all be better left neutral until we get to the point where we need to chg things? I'm guessing that the tone capture feature clones my amp sound into one of mooer's presets, then from their we might want to make some adjustments.

[@andre77coelho]

Hi Leo! Do you know if the GE250 can do the tone capture from guitar pedals too??? I know that the GE300 and 300 lite can, but I'm really interested in purchase a GE250. Thanks and cheers from Brazil.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi André, I have checked out the user manual of the GE 250 and only amp tone capture is mentioned...therefore, according to the user manual, it seems not possible to profile pedals. Thank you for your question.

[@felipe_sousa97]

It's not equal, but it's similar, and for the price it's amazing! It's an awesome tool if you can't afford a lot of tube amps and want quality I your home recording or even live, But have you tried with the power amb tube simulation from de Mooer? It adds a little bit o color to the sound and can help :)

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

HI Felipe, I do agree, it's a very nice pedalboard. I've done the comparison without the cab, in order to be sure not to put in the evaluation a different cab between the Plexi and the Mooer. Thank you for your message!

[@Rouwiinator]

Did you use a real cab for the Marshall and the Stock cab sims from the mooer? If so from my experience I'd say that mooers products are pretty cool for their money but the stock cabs really weren't doing it for me with my ge 200. IRs make a huge difference.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, I'm using the same IR for both, an IR of a celestion greenback, Thank you for your question!

[@Osssssssssssssh]

Very good demo Leo, to me pretty close,like you said when you play mix with drum and bass together is pretty close very hard to tell.

[@simonecelante7729]

Complimenti

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Grazie mille Simone. Ciao

[@jazzylei143]

Wow very nice. Thanks for this video. To my ears the plexi sounds like a Line 6 pod Hd

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for your appreciation and your message Sahara!

[@robertodepetro1996]

Nel mix la similitudine è impressionante

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I do agree!!

[@raimondodalmotto6442]

The marshall is less compressed less closed, but by EQ you compesated how possible.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion with us!

[@bikersoncall]

Are there some great 'Artist' presets included, I think it has 250 presets, but are there good artist presets? Could you do a video showing us the really useable presets, (not all 250 presets, cause they surely won't be useable), but the ones that are?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for your suggestion....I will se what can I do...the presets are Mooer ones and I don't know if they have been done collaborating with artists... Thank you!

[@bikersoncall]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Cool, thanks.. I don't find that presets created _by_ ARTISTS is an issue, rather that there are accurate presets that simulate sounds that Artists used. In other words, there is never a 'need' to collaborate with the artist, the Mooer just needs to hire talented people that can create the best presets, accurately representative of sounds on their albums. I have the best setup I've ever had right now, a tube amp and some expensive pedals, they get me some core sounds, SRV, Allman bros, things like that , and perhaps Bad Co, but beyond that I need a processor that gets into the more 'processed' lol sounds, like Van Halen, Boston, Ozzy Osborn.

[@unmondelibre]

Wow. many thanks. The Marshall has that magic, but the Mooer is close... This or the Iridium ?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi Emmanuel...This is a pretty hard question to answer 😊... I don't have done a direct comparison, so I can't answer right now... but it's a very interesting question... I have to try out...

[@unmondelibre]

@@LeoGibsonGtr ;-)

[@ivanmedich3631]

Well. NOW I know how a Plexi is REALLY supposed to sound. Jeez! This guy can play!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you Ivan!

[@vasilijkolesnikov8834]

tell me ... pliz ... on the Mooer GE 250, how many footswitches can you hang the selected sound options ... on all 5 or 3? Thank you ....

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi Vasilij, sorry I'm not sure to have properly understood your question: what do you mean with "hang the selected sound options"? thank you for your message

[@vasilijkolesnikov8834]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Thank you, Leo for the answer ... I mean ... the processor has five buttons (footsfits). The three buttons at the bottom are programmable. Can the two buttons on the far left, which are used to switch presets, be programmed? Thank you ....

[@vasilijkolesnikov8834]

sorry for my English

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

@@vasilijkolesnikov8834 Hi Vasilij, no as far as I know, but if someone else has better info, please drop a message here. Thank you

[@Steger13]

do you think GE250 beter then the Joyo GEM BOX III or similar?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, sorry, I can't tell as I don't have the Joyo...but for sure when the GE 250 is gonna be able to load profiles from the Mooer Studio cloud...I think it's gonna be hard to beat. Thank you for your message!!!

[@DMRFNC]

is it possible to export the capture and share it with us? I'don't have a Plexi :-( THX

[@JosePineda-jn8jk]

Right? I wonder if they would just have to share them and not sell them because it would be a Marshall plexi lol. That’s why I would assume they change the amplifier names on the units because all these companies don’t have licensing rights. I know IK multimedia seems to have Mesa, orange, soldano, fender names in their software because they paid them for that

[@miguelangelcass1830]

Hi, How can I import an external "captured tone" into my GE250 please?

[@bikersoncall]

De Martion, good question, seems like an obvious feature that might be desirable, and scary at the same time, (to marshal etc) .

[@miskawkolorzezdrady]

Hi Leo! Can you share the Plexi profile with us, please?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, you can download from the MooerStudio my profile of the Marshal Plexi. It is called "Leo Plexi Jump 2". I hope you enjoy and thank you for your message!

[@ahmad-g2192]

Should i use a valve in the captured amp ?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I'm not sure if I have properly understood your question. In the Mooer you don't have valves, and the captured amps for sure has valves if it is a tube one...

[@johnpauldeguzman823]

Does it feel like a real tube? How was it feel on the Mooer ?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi John, the feel is pretty good with the exception of the dynamic range, which is better handled in the Marshall. In my opinion it depends on how you play and the situation, I mean if you want just to use the volume of the guitar and your touch to change the tone from clean to distorted, the Marhall is better

[@robertodepetro1996]

Per profilare le dita che multieffetto c'è? :-)

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😊👍🏻

[@thematrix7225]

Is there a way to capture an amp that has no effects loop?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, maybe you can use a reactive load after the amp and then you can try to go from the reactive load into the Mooer... I have not tried myself...therefore I'm not 100% sure if it works. Thank you!

[@thematrix7225]

@@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks for the reply. Never thought of that.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome!

[@Cerusicus26]

Quello che manca a questi aggeggi e’ la dinamica.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

The way valve amps manage the dynamic range is still magical...:)

[@Gabaz76]

Ma non mi sembra sai! Sono migliorati anche x la dinamica.

[@robertodepetro1996]

Veneto? ;-)

[@today_what]

5:37

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

thanks

[@kembangapy]

Ok. Now let see can the ge250 capture your dialect? 😁

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😊

[@raimondodalmotto6442]

Ma sei italiano? Mi sembra un accento italiano

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi Raimondo, if you want more info about me, let's drop me an email: [e-mail] Thank you for your interest in my channel!

[@user-mv8jh1xh2n]

mooer no comp and marshall comp sound

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing!

[@gitarbangsatchanel8036]

And the low end can touch the real plexi

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion with us!

[@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784]

Still very far from what a Kemper can do...!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for your message, I appreciate your opinion!