Mooer GE250 | Unboxing, First Impressions and dialing in my first tone

[@semyonboyk0]

I hope the competition among Mooer, Hotone and alike companies continues, so we have even better modelers at even lower price in the future. Even now the tone you can get out of these units is insane.

[@Sleeep1]

Its great. I use Tone Capture from GE 250 to capture fractal FX II amps and is great improvement for all amps in Mooer GE 250

[@glorideefaithperez2858]

Great idea! I have an AxeFX II. Is it a hard procedure? What outboard gear is needed to do this?

[@Sleeep1]

@@glorideefaithperez2858 only axe FX and 4 cables. Only hard moment is to configure fractal for 4 cabeks methode. You can find it on KZbin.

[@glorideefaithperez2858]

@@Sleeep1 Thank you!

[@godsreclamation2539]

Love your vids. I watch them alot and you help me make wise decisions on gear. Keep it metal 🤘

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌🙌🙌

[@tonyd7137]

This was really useful thanks. I havent been able to find out much about why the 250 is better than the 200 and you covered a lot of that right off the bat. Sounds ok, looking forward to the tone capture video

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌 no prob!

[@burtsgurt]

Throw some foam or tape behind the nut and bridge to get rid of that extra resonance directly after picking. It lets you use less gate threshold and sounds way tighter in my opinion!

[@devilslide01]

Curtis Brooker nice tip, gonna try it

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah I have a strappy foamy thing, I just spaced it

[@burtsgurt]

Taylor Danley I use the GruvWrap fretwraps or electrical tape wrapped under & over for my guitars. Works great. I wish I would have known that tip 10 years ago when I was playing shows every night so I try to pass it along as much as possible! Haha

[@aras1985]

I hope its gonna give you so much fun as it's gives me :)

[@willhall2693]

Organic tone, options, and a price that makes sense. Definitely a winner!

[@TaylorDanley]

💯

[@A7XGuitar999]

thx for the vid on this unit. Look forward to more about it. Have had my eye on this unit and the Ampero for a while now....not sure what to do yet

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌

[@zeronites9865]

And here I am with moeer ge 250 for almost a year and didn't try to change the cab for an amp.. it sounds better.. gonna go try that

[@AaronMorgan666]

The noise you were trying to kill around 9:05 was the strings on the headstock.

[@suniso370]

I've been waiting for this one since the hype you generated with that photo one or two days ago. Cabs sound improved over ge200 (I think...) and mic choice FINALLY works! One thing I still don't get is the volume difference between different amp models when you cycle through them, how come no one at Mooer (Line 6 too) didn't think to put them at the same subjective level...? Also excited about that JP2C as well as other new amps over there... Cheers from Serbia, Taylor.

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌 Haha good question! I'm sure theres some reason, but I dont think well ever know.

[@birdbluesky]

Good reviewed, I love it

[@audiosmurf]

Well, those muted triplets while you were cycling over presets convinced me this'll do just fine for metal. Time to get buying!

[@ky9999]

Those are not triplets.

[@audiosmurf]

@@ky9999 k thx

[@MarcAndreLevesque]

It may be the KZbin compression or that you haven't spent enough time with it (or both) but it sounds very harsh, your GE200 demo sounded better, can't wait for the video comparing the GE200 and the GE250

[@thomaslthomas1506]

It’s got XLR & on/off switch. You have my attention.

[@akaalgaming9537]

Hotone ampero one mp-80 also got released

[@jesus4pincho]

The headrush has an amazing amp sim, to me it sounds the best of all (except fractal)

[@scottwhitlow8468]

Still looking forward to a Headrush comparison. Great video! 👍🏻

[@emmancastillo8679]

GREAT! You should totally do a GE250 V.S AMPERO V.S GE200 to see which one has the best AMP sounds! No fx, no features, just who has the better amp modeling. Great unboxing btw.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks 🙌 already on it, watch out Monday!

[@phildyerguitar]

Great demo! When you capture the tone would you also be able to demonstrate how this acts running 4cm just for effects with the amp and cab sims off? I'd be interested in using this with a midi controlled amp but other small form factor modellers I've used have ground hum issues and only have midi in rather than out so this seems a lot more fully featured.

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌 thanks! I have a bunch of stuff coming with this, and a vid where I use the 4CM to tone capture🤘🤘

[@mikebaker698]

I was literally getting ready to buy one of these and just could not find enough info about them overall. I just decided to buy a 5150 3 instead. Maybe I will pick one up at a later date.

[@christianbauer7032]

Thanks for the overview Taylor. I'm thinking about upgrading my GE200 but a key feature I'm looking for is being able to foot-switch stuff on my computer with MIDI (the patches etc. in Neural DSP apps, or Logic Pro Surface Control). You mention that this seems to be possible with the GE250, could you give this a try please? I'm about to return the very disappointing Tone Shift MEGA which was supposed to be an audio/MIDI interface in one unit, but it doesn't seem to work with Logic Pro at all...

[@TaylorDanley]

Possibly. Not super familiar with how to do this.

[@dantearturorodriguezcamach2613]

Hey man, I´m looking to get one of these cause my Ampero Hotone was sent back due to a noise issue. I really really liked the amp sounds on the Ampero, even more than the ones on my old GE200. My question to you is if you think the amps on the GE250 sound better with the last update that enables the unit to be able to use. GNR files?? Cause if it´s anything like the Ampero amp sound quality I´m pulling the trigger on it. Thanks for the videos man!

[@TaylorDanley]

Honestly haven't tried the gnr files since the ge200 beta... I thought they were OK. If you liked your ge200, the 250 is a massive improvement in every way.

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

Good video Taylor. Does this one have power amp stuff like sag? It sounds great I thought.. I still think you should do the gigboard. It has a killer 7 inch screen. All the effects and amps, etc.. Thanksan for sharing these vids. Very cool sir...

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks 🙌 no power amp controls, but big improvement on tube swapping and mic swapping. They actually sound like different things now.

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

@@TaylorDanley Cool. I even thought the 200 sounded good, but yeah it did sound better to me.. I think though the deal breaker for me is tue power amp stuff. I just really want it. I'm looking at a used Elevin Rack. I tried one a couple three years ago and it sounded great and actually did feel somewhat like an amp. Only the AxeFx sounded better to me.. I had tried an axefx 2 my cousin's studio has along with a kemper, and a room full of heads and cabs.. I am not inspired to play if I don't have that feel a little. That spongey tube thing and tone of course. I'll give up a little in tone if it's close and has that feel, but I think to get it I'm goimg to need power amp parameter controls... I'm in no hurry though. I play my Katana and it sounds great except I don't like the built in effects much.. Maybe I'm just too picky. 😂 It's what I prefer though.. Great videos though sir. Keep up the good work...

[@unleashthefury111]

It would be cool if you could compare the tones + fizz in a mix vs the tones without the fizz in the mix. It is some peoples belief that the inherent fizz is what helps tones cut through a mix. Also. I dont know anything about these Mooer products.....aside from options, are the much improvements in the tones/amp models with the higher model numbers? Like would the Ge300 even sound better than this? Thanks

[@TaylorDanley]

Good question. The 250 came after the 300, so I assume the tech is the same, but I could be wrong.

[@dantearturorodriguezcamach2613]

Hey Taylor, thanks for the awesome video! Got a question for you. When using the cntrl footswitch on the GE200 to activate/deactivare other predefined effects there is some lag. What i mean is that the new effects don't come in when the cntrl footswitch is pressed all the way down, but when you release it (which makes it feel like lag because you naturally want the effects to change when you actually press it) Now I see the GE250.has A B & C switches for dedicated patches. Is the "lag" the same case for the GE250 when pressing A B C, or do they actually activate when the switch is pressed down rather than when it is released? I hope I was able to express the specific doubt I have in mind. Thank you so much! Regards.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks 🙌 I get asked this question all the time, and cant really answer because I almost never use the foot switches. I think I'm just going to make a vid on it to find out 100% Thanks for the idea!

[@dantearturorodriguezcamach2613]

@@TaylorDanley Cool! Looking forward to watching that video when it comes out because I want to upgrade fron the 200 to the 250 but want to see if it's worth it. Thanks and keep safe!

[@NecrosisF]

Hi Taylor! I sold my ge300 3 months ago, I always thought it sounded boxy even with IR's, and now i have the Helix LT, but after all this time tweaking it just can't get a good metal sound. Do you think Axe FX or even the ampero would be for me? I know I need to tweak all of them, but I think they all have some "sound resolution" limits. Thanks for your awesome videos, keep up!

[@TaylorDanley]

If you dont like the helix LT, I dont know that the Axefx is going to be a huge step up tonally. IMO the big difference is how many features the axe has to manipulate tones, not quality of said tone.

[@CedricSatterfield]

Stupid question. Ge200 had a tap/ Ctrl button. Where is it on the 250? There manual talks about the function button button not how to use it with a footswitch. Not seeing a dedicated switch is putting me off from getting one, and I have a 200 coming. If I can figure this out I may get the 250.

[@TaylorDanley]

I think you can assign functions to the 3 foot switches on the 250, where as the 200 has 1 assignable switch that can also double as a tap when held down.

[@CedricSatterfield]

Ok. I wondered. They really dont spell it out.

[@KristianHeartmusic]

the headrush does sound good but its the only modeling unit that really doesn't offer to many things such as , AMPS,PEDALS,CABS,EFFECTS the unit just really lacks a lot of options :/ I feel like its for people who arnt really picky about choosing amps, pedals an such and want a super simple unit but honestly good choice picking the mooer !!

[@TaylorDanley]

It looks cool! But yeah, just not much there to really make me want to purchase one 🤷‍♂️

[@KristianHeartmusic]

Taylor Danley now my question is are the mooer 250 worth the money compared to the 200 or what ?

[@villalobosalfredo7169]

try the amp simulation

[@davidegiancane282]

Great demo! Just a question: which unit do you think has the most realistic amp simulations between Mooer ge250 and Hotone Ampero?

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! I dont think either one sounds more real than the other. I would say the Ampero sounds more raw out of the box, and the ge250 sounds more "mix ready". Stay tuned tomorrow, I have a video posting that will probably give you more insight on this exact question! 🙌

[@davidegiancane282]

@@TaylorDanley oh wow! Thanks man 🤘

[@KPGuitarStudios]

Great video man. It has a different quality than the GE200, I hear it in your demo just like when trying it at NAMM. With your custom IRs I'd bet it sounds even better. Try some low tuning stuff 🤘

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks 🙌 I'll get to lower timings on it soon!!

[@agency1000x]

great video thanks. Hey can you split the dry signal out and record a wet and dry bascially?

[@TaylorDanley]

Yes!

[@nguyenducquocanh4341]

I want to play along some backing track and sometimes may sing along. Would I be better of using this Mooer GE200 with a guitar amp or a compact PA system (such as the Behringer K900FX Ultratone 90W 3-Channel PA System & Keyboard Amplifier)? Thanks.

[@JiTiAr35]

Awesome. How much is this in there?

[@GrMfull]

Sounds really great. When you will make the tone capture video, could you try to clone a sample from an existing son please 🙏

[@TaylorDanley]

I dont think the tone capture works that way, I think it just captures the sound of an amp you have like the Kemper... I'll look into it

[@GrMfull]

@@TaylorDanley really ? I don't know, thanks to check that bro

[@CrissLiew]

Okay, now I'm thinking of selling my GE200 which i just bought 2 months ago.

[@TaylorDanley]

The 250 is a pretty big upgrade..

[@recmydream]

i saw many comparison of hotone ampero and this mooer on your channel... In my opinion hotone is a little bit better in amp emulation, but reverbs and delays are sounds better on mooer ge 250 That you think about that?

[@KrstovicNikola]

Hey man, love ur videos, been following you for some time now. To be honest i prefer this kind of playing from you, more power chords and single guitar stuff. Hope we`ll see more of that in the future, imho its a better way to judge about sounds than quad tracked full on death metal mixes lol :) Keep up with great work, hope your channel will grow soon...

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks 🙌

[@apoplexiamusic]

looks like a nice little unit! That Orange cab sounded good with the US Gold, but your final choice at 6:50 sounded quite killer! With the Tone Capture i could imagine capturing the tone of the Plugin Alliance VH4 or ENGL E646 (they are that good!) or the Fortin Nameless. Also, Cave Reverb = instant Shoegaze! Or you know... a Cave level in a SNES game.

[@TaylorDanley]

😂😂😂 Btw fine capturing the nameless would be amazing, I'm just not sure how to do it without an effects loop 🤔 I'm sure theres a way

[@apoplexiamusic]

@@TaylorDanley wouldn't it just entail something like the 4 cable method? from the guitar to the audio interface, than from a secondary output of the interface into the GE250?

[@TaylorDanley]

I'm not sure. The amp sim doesnt have an FX loop, and ai dont know if routing through my audio interface alone would work. Worth a shot!

[@neilkendall5499]

Good review! A question - is it possible to set the tuner to silent, so when you switch the tuner on it's already in silent mode? Thanks.

[@aqpforce]

what do u think about the USB conection and quality of the GE250 vs POD Go ? I heared that the parameters of POD Go is better, but what do u think? Cause I want to gete a new multieffect, and a few years before I recorded an entire EP with the HD500x of line 6, and it was great to use as a direct interface.

[@kow294]

lol, did you forgot turning on the light? anyway with the 4 cable method, can you use it as a preamp fed to an amp's power section?

[@TaylorDanley]

😂 got it this time... you can place your effect loop wherever youd like in the signal chain, so you can route pretty much however youd like!

[@merry666christmas7]

真高兴我们国家有这样优秀的效果器，我用的是GE200！！很好用，音色很棒！

[@TaylorDanley]

🤷‍♂️🙌

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

Is there a way to have 4 patches per bank on this? I know 3 is norm but curious if the one arrow down button can be programmed to a fourth patch

[@TaylorDanley]

Good question. I dont think so, but I haven't dived into the menus too deep. I know they can be assigned to fx

[@jawadhashmi1551]

which one u prefer line 6 pod go or mooer300 or 250?

[@avidia_music]

Did Mooer send you this unit? I'm asking cause I definitely think you should start being rewarded for your work with these pedals :)

[@TaylorDanley]

Haha, no. I bought it. But thanks man! Maybe one of these days lol.

[@labyzoune5751]

How is the switching between preset ? And delay trails after switching preset ? Thanks !

[@TaylorDanley]

I never really notice delays when switching any units... at least any more than any other pedals. But I also very rarely use foot switches... these things mostly live on my desk.

[@anriburkadze7808]

Which one is better mooer ge 250 vs mooer radar with pedals ?

[@gwogobo2937]

Im planning on buying this soon for better sound with recording in my studio, but i wanted to know if this can plug directly into speakers and have the sound played out through my studio speakers instead of an amp. Thank you!

[@helpik1]

Hi nice demo is pissible to download my presets from ge labs ipad app to ge250? Thanx

[@JohnnyOskam]

Can someone tell me if the GE250 has the ability to create parallel signal paths?

[@weinderdog1184]

4 cable this bad boy and see what we get

[@TaylorDanley]

Its coming!

[@ernestobenschop6087]

What firmware was the unit on? did you update it?

[@TaylorDanley]

Not sure. Didnt update yet.

[@ivanlopezcastillo1678]

Hello i am mexican Mooer ge 200 vs mooer ge 250 what' is you beast moster favorita ? Me gusta tu canal :) saludos sub+

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌 ge250 has more options, so I prefer that!

[@samiRetro777]

An American werewolf in London

[@overcome8628]

JUST DONT BUY THE HOTONE AMPERO, ITS TRASH in my opinion. I got my money back on the one I bought.