Mookie Betts Trade Officially a FAILURE with Verdugo Gone - Felger & Mazz

Mike Felger, Tony Mazz and Jim Murray explain why it was a good thing to get rid of Alex Verdugo. However, are the Red Sox moving in the right direction this offseason?

[@johnofmalta]

Don’t blame the GM. Mookie trade was all about ownership not wanting to spend. It was an awful trade from get.

[@Eggy79]

But the GM still didn't maximize the asset. The decision to trade is on ownership, the return is on the GM.

[@jamesanthony5681]

Not exactly.

[@jamesanthony5681]

They weren't prepared to commit $300 million to a player of that size (5'9", 175 lbs), believing the numbers Mookie was putting up were not sustainable for someone his size for the next 7-10 years.

[@1Learn2Swim3]

Its been a failure since they made the trade. One of the worst trades in recent memory

[@troll-fx2zc]

What about Babe Ruth

[@Eggy79]

@@troll-fx2zc He said recent memory. Is 1919 recent to you, my guy?

[@troll-fx2zc]

@sansdeity26 It's only been 104 years, that's not that long ago

[@abesview5855]

@@troll-fx2zc 😂😂😂😂

[@ThePatriots010304]

One of the worst trades in all of sports. Absolute garbage.

[@johncassani6780]

Complete garbage. And they only saved half of the remaining salary owed David Price. And what did they do with that $48 million?

[@christopherhopkins949]

Oh stop

[@kyh336]

There is absolutely no excuse for the mookie trade! This Breslow guy is Bloom 2.0. The Red Sox ownership is an absolute clown show. They have lost thier fanbase and continue to further destroy any hopes of a rivival. SELL THE TEAM

[@1Learn2Swim3]

Lol how can you say he's as bad as Bloom? Dugie wasn't anything special, had multiple character related issues over the past two years and we needed pitching. I'm not mad about it.

[@SexAndCandyHair92]

@@1Learn2Swim3 People are only saying this because he happened to get traded to the Yankees. If it was any other team they probably wouldn't care as much. It is painful that Soto is on the Yankees too though. Yankees are having a way better off season than the Red Sox.

[@zeked4200]

​@@1Learn2Swim3 In a vacuum, I'm not either. I'm more concerned about the emerging appearance that the philosophy hasn't changed...and that's more on ownership than Breslow. He's "Bloom 2.0" in the sense that he's just doing what he's told. It doesn't matter how many prospects they aquire. Even if they hit on them and the guys are everyday players and all-stars...if they're just going to refuse to pay them and let them leave for what amounts to nothing...then what are we really trying to accomplish? It's such a fine line trying to win on a budget, are we a farm system for the big markets or the Boston Red Sox? Do we want to win or not?

[@abesview5855]

@@1Learn2Swim3 Yeah not much of a fan no more.

[@jamesanthony5681]

At the *TIME* of the trade? Sure there was. (1) There wasn't a guarantee that Mookie wanted to remain in Boston and management had to get something before he walked. (2) Mookie is not a big guy (5'9", 175 lbs) who was putting up power numbers. Who in the history of MLB with that size have put up those king of numbers in their late 20's, 30's? I can think of 2 players: Jimmy Wynn, the Toy Cannon; and Joe Morgan. Sox management figured those numbers weren't sustainable for a player that size, and in their risk assessment, they did not want to commit $300 million long term to Betts. I would not be surprised if they consulted Bill James before saying no. My guess. In hindsight they were wrong, obviously

[@christopherhopkins949]

You have to ask the question for each player on the roster. Will that player be on the team when they make a World Series run in two or three years? If the answer is no, then you trade them for a prospect.

[@markhousman8447]

Tampa Bay Ray Sox

[@SexAndCandyHair92]

At least with Tampa Bay it's been working for them

[@teetoo3790]

Except Tampa Bay Rays average 95 plus wins the last 3 years.

[@jacksafereffort516]

I call them the Tampa Bay Devil Red Sox.

[@langrhcp]

Bloom did the Ottavino trade with the Yankees, whatre you talking about "except the Yankee part"??

[@martinalbert29]

Yep it’s all up to you Conner Wong now that Verdugo and Downs are gone.

[@truth3412]

Where are all the people who argued the mookie betts trade was a good deal? We traded a MVP player entering his prime for a bag of crap.

[@jamesanthony5681]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[@RedSoxTruther]

Mookie trade was awful. This trade though? I like it. I like them getting a bunch of pitching and hopefully Dick Fitts pans out cause that name is legendary

[@magpie1869]

Mookie trade was a salary dump. It included David Price, It was not about the return. It's wrong to say it's a failure because of Verdugo. The failure was putting the Sox in a financial position where they had to trade Betts.

[@tylers9476]

Didnt they dump Carl Crawford and Manny to them too?

[@HHSGDFootballJPD]

​@tylers9476 They dumped Carl and Josh Beckett there too. Manny was at the end of his eight year contract and I don't think they wanted to resign him (but he too was traded to the Dodgers).

[@fredwiner8988]

Verdugo was only average and was not a class act. He was very dissapointing.

[@GoodbyeThisWeek]

he was a gold glove finalist and above average OPS and their best clutch hitter. do these guys even watch the Sox?

[@edwinr.6494]

Verdugo aint average like that man, give him a lil credit. He def had his moment when Mookie came back to Fenway hitting 2 leadoff homeruns..

[@tylers9476]

Lol now he gets to do that against the Sox all next year

[@nexigram]

Eh. I'll never forgive them for trading Mookie Betts, but I honestly don't care about them trading Verdugo. Even to the Yankees. He clearly just did not want to be here and was doing his best to shoot his way out of town. You can't have that guy on your Opening Day roster, you just can't.

[@tylers9476]

Red Sox will be in the basement the next decade so who cares if Verdugo kills them next year

[@carlodangio1724]

It’s been a failure since the day it was made

[@johnchase7096]

That trade was a failure from the time John Henry decided not to pay Mookie

[@danny11b4]

Mookie will go into the HOF as a Dodger now when it’s all said and done

[@knowsmebyname]

Alex Verdugo was an elite level fielder no?

[@billkussmaul2940]

It wasn't a trade it was a salary dump.

[@troll-fx2zc]

Getting rid of Verdugo will be a huge mistake

[@RSTI191]

I'm 61 die hard Boston sports fan. Or rather was. What's worse than this trade, watching the Pat's aside, (YIKES) I gave up on sports 3 years ago. TOOOO MUCH WOKE BULLSHIT..

[@jimmyf9545]

Really, the "wokeness" drove you away? LMAO.

[@RSTI191]

@@jimmyf9545 Did I stutter?

[@RSTI191]

@@jimmyf9545 Here you go honey;; Woke: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice) Any word in there you need help with - there is no shame in asking..

[@lapov4k732]

Salary dump, not a trade. Let’s not forget Dodgers ate the contract of a washed up, David Price to get Mookie to LA.

[@juliopineirojr.499]

Say whatever you want to say about Verdugo, he could come back to bite the Red Sox big time on the ass ...

[@VinnieBoombatz374]

Maybe the Red Sox should tear down that dilapidated stadium of theirs and get with the 21st Century...like the Yankees.

[@SexAndCandyHair92]

When was the last time the Yankees won anything?

[@it1988a]

Who cares? Last place is last place.

[@TReeves92]

John Henry simply doesn't care about this team! He wants profit for his other ventures. I'd take mark Davis as an owner over Henry at this stage in his late life crisis.

[@knowsmebyname]

To harsh imo. Henry cares.

[@jamesanthony5681]

I don't know the man, but Henry's not in the business of not making a profit. Mark Davis has a bad haircut.