Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE / XC, "Easy Suspension Lowering" !

[@jimihendrixsmum]

Brilliant vid, thanks Del. I didn’t know these existed and I was seriously thinking of selling my Scrambler (or getting some high heeled bike boots). Ordered the springs from Tec, and fitted them in under an hour. The bike is transformed, and I’m in love with her again. Excellent job mate 😎

[@Moonfleet41]

That's great news Jeremy, Glad It could help you out, there's nothing worse than being just a tad out of comfortable reach of the ground aye mate. !!

[@mikegrady8931]

How tall are you Jim

[@gsin311]

@@Moonfleet41 dude you are a life saver, I love this bike and I was thinking about buying it but the height was kinda giving me a pause now I can easily get this one

[@brookcollins6485]

Really well documented, great information. Thank you for your time and effort creating these videos. Much appreciated. 👍

[@Moonfleet41]

My pleasure, thank you for your kind feedback..

[@willoydv3663]

In a reply I mentioned I put a little extra bend in the side stand of my lowered v85tt. Kicks it out a little and shortens the reach a little and still tucks up nice. A little easier to get a boot on too.

[@rodbowes5309]

As you say, simplicity itself, now you have shown us how to do it in such a clear fashion!

[@Smeeheeee]

I did my XC a few months ago, and it’s much better.

[@WRHSF]

Is the lean angle more limited now?

[@peterl08]

I felt like I was watching you play the game Operation taking and replacing the springs! Don’t touch the side! Haha awesome tutorial. Very well done sir!

[@Moonfleet41]

Glad you enjoyed it mate!

[@KidK72]

Nice video Del, I ride a Kawasaki at the moment but Im looking to have a second bike. I'm starting to fall in love with the 1200 XE more and more watching vids and positive reviews on KZbin. The scrambler looks like a bike that just like my kawa is quite easy to maintain and work on myself... Keep on making nice content amigo :)

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate.. you'll enjoy the Scrambler, they're a great bike and certainly easy to work on. Thanks for your kind feedback too.

[@97kristel]

Nice job as always but I think lowering the bike is the wrong way to go. On my bike I have changed to stiffer springs front and back so it gains a little bit of ground clearence but i still bottoms out occasionally. I understand that not everyone takes this kind of bike offroad but it is pretty capable one on the loose stuff so why not keep it that way?

[@TheKamallapseisHappening]

Probably because he paid for the bike.

[@Not.stationary]

hello i want to lower the front forks great helpful video you didn’t mention the torque settings to re tighten the triple tree please advise

[@prasadpandit7696]

Thanks for this session..! I have 2024, 1200x and is there any way I can increase front travel suspension? Both are non adjustable. rear one is only preload by turning the springs. My objective is to get more travel for front suspension. I wanted to buy XE but just not available in India.

[@Moonfleet41]

Im sorry, i don;t know of any way to increase the fork travel other then fitting XE forks legs... perhaps you could buy the forks to fit as an upgrade ?

[@leopoppiti9152]

great, good job!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@TheEltervaag]

I have seen the Tec video for this mod, and I have to say, your way of filming the procedure is really good. Thanks. I'm 180cm tall and this mod will make my Scrambler Xe just a little bit more manageable. 2.5cm sounds perfect. And I need to get my act together and order this now 🙂 What was your first reaction while riding the bike with the lowering kit?

[@Moonfleet41]

To be honest, I can't actually say I've noticed any difference at all when riding the bike, simply when putting my feet down they're now flat on the floor, every else is the same... remember the main suspension springs and damping are unaffected, it's just the keeper springs being softer that allow it to sink a little lower when you get on it! Good luck with the install.

[@TheEltervaag]

@@Moonfleet41 Thanks for the reply.

[@tonysouthwell1682]

Thanks Del. Are they available for the new 1200x?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Tony, believe so, if you check with TEC Bike Parts in the description link, you can ask them directly!

[@richardwhittle2302]

Absolutely first class Del - I'm 5' nothing, so an excellent idea for Lowering suspension👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed it, it seems most bike are built taller than they need to be these days. !

[@enduromotorradtouren]

Thoughtfully built shocks, wonderfully explained. Your videos are a joy to watch. Have a great week, Günter/Nürnberg

[@Moonfleet41]

Many thanks Sir, we appreciate you watching!

[@genewilo1]

Hi.. what size C spanner is recommended for the scrambler xe rear shocks?

[@Mew-qn3xm]

The Allen key behind the left side panel can be use to twist the preload up and down. On the preload adjustment you’ll notice a plastic retaining screw loosen this off, then insert the Allen key into any of the slots on the collar/preload and begin turning.

[@febinp8011]

Can I modify my triumph scrambler 900 into 1200. Like Changing my swing arm,back shock,front shock,wheels these changes can give the look of scrambler 1200

[@Moonfleet41]

Using genuine Triumph parts would be a collosal investment and probably close to the price of simply trading your bike in and buying a 1200, but if you truly wanted to do it, then I wouldn't know whether the frames are the same... if they are, then I guess it may work in theory, but I can't help you any further than that.

[@paulregner5335]

While I don't plan on changing the springs in the rear shocks of my Scrambler 1200XC, this was a good informative video. Thanks!

[@davydecoene3801]

What about the side stand, doesn't it to be lowered to ,I would imagine the bike would be more upright at this point ,and would easily tipping over I'll guess 🤔

[@Moonfleet41]

Been skipping parts of the video then..? 3:45

[@burb3l]

very good job!!! Which one did you like best? the Scrambler or the T120?

[@Moonfleet41]

Definitely the 1200 Scrambler, hands down !

[@muhammadalomari1743]

I love looking at your work

[@x-man5056]

Excellent Del. I am facing the opposite issue though. I have '22 Street Scrambler. I'm short guy and like my feet near flat on the ground. So I bought the TEC lowering shocks. The springs seem TOO SOFT. I have the rubber snubber bottomed out every time I return from a ride, and I only ride street. I weight 200lbs. Question: Do I need a bit stiffer spring, or do I just compress the current spring more on the shock? The shock will limit the static height, but I'm in unfamiliar territory. Also, I think you should have cautioned; 'When you lower your bike, you need to take a close look at your kickstand length.' There may be be another surprise that needs attention. I already know mine is longer than I want now, but not sure of best way forward there. I would prefer a bolt on solution. I'm wondering if a kick stand from one of the street Bonny's would fit and be an inch or so shorter.

[@Moonfleet41]

OK, two things to answer here, firstly you clearly skipped the video around the point where I clearly explained about the side stand, you can watch it here at 3:45... and you'll see clearly at the end of the video (which perhaps you skipped also), that I demonstrated this literally by sitting on the bike, flat foot down, then getting off it and leaving it perfectly stable on the full length side stand... and as for your bike, if you contact TEC Bike Parts direct and talk to them about some stiffer springs, I believe they make them as a straight swop on your bike.

[@myz06rocks]

Never even considered that the rears has 2 piece springs. Interesting.

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes, 'keeper springs' are common to many long reach shocks and a great way to give extended height and still get the tight performance of a shorter shock... common to lots of suspension systems, specially on off-road cars.

[@recventura]

Whats the final seat height?

[@grosbeakmc]

Hiya Penny and Del. Great video! Thoroughly explained and very well filmed and produced. And that digital torque handle - the Wiha iTorque - has just gone on my birthday list! Take care, be well and ride safe!

[@Moonfleet41]

Glad you enjoyed it mate, and great gift idea, it's a wonderful little tool, and razor accurate, after all it's the tiny fasteners we're most likely to mince and they're sometimes critical to replace... specially in the casting of a shock absorber! Have a great week and thanks for your constant kind words of support, D&Px

[@garya3056]

Sweet, Del! I have been wanting to lower my Fatboy and don’t recall whether you’ve done anything on lowering softtails? If not, maybe in the future… thanks as always for letting me be your student… regards to Penny. 🏍👍🏍

[@Moonfleet41]

I have fitted an Arlen Ness lowering kit to some factory softail shocks in the dim and distant past long before KZbin.. but it wasn't a very successful upgrade..they work by replacing the internal rod with a longer one, which slammed the bike by almost 2"...but the old springs remain, and the spring rate is unaffected and therefore way too soft and they bottom out really easily.. far better to fit lower shocks that are stiffer and designed to work in a shorter range of travel.. so for purely swapping them over.. Here is one older video that we did make a long time ago..!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/baLGfHeMjMmNp7c

[@garya3056]

@@Moonfleet41 ah yes I remember that one now! Shame on me. Will watch it again. Cheers, my friend! 😎

[@chrischristofis8501]

Triumphs seem well engineered in general, with those mods this scrambler looks fantastic, i bet it is gonna ride fantastic also, looking at it you just want to take it out and find some twisties and forget about the world, i was out on my KTM today, its meditation 🧘‍♂️ im just focused on the joy of riding to exclusion of all else, living for the day. I love my KTM although I am considering getting either a Triumph scambler or Indian FTR in the future i am going to try both out at sime stage. It's good to have a couple of bikes at least if one can. I have missed the installing of the hand guards, I like them, what brand are they please?

[@Moonfleet41]

I did also ride the Super Duke R when making my choice, but I much prefer the Scrambler for many reasons... and the hand guards are factory, take a look at the specs on the dealer websites!

[@springy-2112]

Ha, I think removing the keeper spring completely might just get it low enough for my stumpy legs! But it would point skyward at the front.. Or I could fit 12 inch wheels 🤔. Or just get a monkey bike! There's a thought...... Peace and love to you both ✌️❤️🤗

[@andyjrichie6709]

Very straightforward and very well explained, great video Sir

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Andy.. Glad you liked it mate !

[@gerardcullen5131]

Perfect instruction as ever pleasure to watch Del

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Gerard, that's very kind of you!

[@ObsessiveCarDetailer]

Ah my Tuesday fix 👍Great tutorial & give the camera tech a pat on the back

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate👍, glad you enjoyed it,

[@nickmitton7350]

Good job sir!!! Bike is looking lovely. 👌 😎🏍

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank You Nick, we're glad you enjoyed the video!

[@rsbharley4766]

Excellent job Del., great how to for people. Have a great week and hope the weathers not to bad, it's 35C here. Cheers

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate👍, 3c here right now, you can send a few this way when ever you get fed up with it..lol!

[@wellsjohnnysfunstuff1213]

And a vice.

[@bobfitzy6236]

I managed without using a vice. Hold them upright, push down carefully, and nudge the shock with chin or chest!

[@Desmo904]

Nice to see how easy it is to lower the bike a good inch or so! (I'm 5'8") One question. How well does the bike sit on the side stand now that it is lower and the stand is still the same length? It will be closer to vertical than before. Cheers! 👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi mate, I knew that that would be a question asked, and for that exact reason, I explained it twice in the video... perhaps you skipped that part, here it is, clearly explained, from 3:45... this should be just what you need to give you a flat foot reach.

[@willoydv3663]

My v85tt was lowered due to my reach and I put a little more bend in the side stand which kicked it out a bit and shortened the reach a bit and works fine. You don't need much and still tucks up pretty close, easier to get your foot on also. Like your vids.

[@b.switzer4744]

Another very interesting video. Love watching. 😀

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks so much

[@veeken777]

Bike is looking pretty Phookin Lovely

[@LS-uv9gg]

This was awesome to see how nicely engineered the shocks are for nearly tool-less fettling!

[@spetersonmusic]

Very cool. Does it sit much more upright on the side stand though? In the end, it looked pretty good.

[@Moonfleet41]

Mentioned at 3:50 ...Hardly any what so ever Scott.. the standing height is almost unaffected with no weight on the bike. Only when you sit in it does the softer keeper spring sink a bit lower. ! it's critically important the springs are no shorter when unloaded otherwise they could unseat over jumps or even just hump back bridges !

[@kevinbeilby1495]

Hi Del. Great vid as always. Just one thing you pros forget, is that us amateurs haven’t worked in the industry like you lot, so when we need a tool, for example a screwdriver, we grab a screwdriver, any screwdriver. So when you mention a PH1 ? It’s like, wtf? Maybe a vid on basic tools, like different screwdrivers, allan keys torx keys and even nuts and bolts sizes, cos I for one don’t have a blooming clue. Thanks my good man.

[@Moonfleet41]

OK, it's pretty straightforward, PH refers to the style of cross head screwdriver (Phillips) and PZ refers to pozi drive, compare the two and they're slightly different to fit slightly different screws, they come in different sizes (1,2,3), so a Phillips No.1 is a small Phillips screwdriver, included in any small set of screwdrivers no matter how cheap!

[@Vtwin_Superbikes]

Mad that tiny cir clips are the main engineered strength of the suspension.

[@Moonfleet41]

Exactly the same design as the Softail shocks on Harleys, all held together with a wire circlip... but who are we to question the mighty Ohlins... builders of the finest race suspension in the world aye!

[@wobblysauce]

As long as the other main bolts are there the clips are free to sit in peace.

[@Butterfly07949]

Don't know why but when you undid the top mounting bolt Del I thought of your heart. With all the strain of working in your workshop how are you? Hope you are well my friend.

[@johnsumser9743]

I love the look of the 1200 Scramblers but they are too tall for me. Nice solution.

[@rickrogers2649]

Great lowering kit install Del. It's almost a "stealth" way of lowering the bike. 😁 Now that I'm well into my "golden" years I should look into lowering my Versys. I love the bike but it is a bit like a 2 wheeled skyscraper. Great meticulous wrenching as always, Del and stellar views of every step, Miss Penny. many thanks to you both. Blessings and good health always, friends. PS...love those ratchet straps that grip the rear tire. I'll be checking those out on the google machine.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Rick, glad you enjoyed... the wheel straps are a great idea, work on situations where you can't strap the bike down in the conventional way, they're great for carrying bikes in a van, or strapping down on a ferry, let us know if you want a link mate! Have a great week there, keep safe and thanks as always for your kind support, D&Px

[@rickrogers2649]

@@Moonfleet41 A link would be much appreciated. Thanks Del !

[@jerryspencer5453]

I have no need to lower a bike unless it's a hardtail chopper to make it cool. Long legs. This video is great for light weight, short legged riders. Thanks for the info.

[@masterlordking]

del I noticed you never use air or elec impact is there a reason for that

[@Moonfleet41]

I love hand tools mate, old fashioned bloke..lol!

[@chrispayne1029]

Great job Del 👌👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@JamesMcCreadie71]

Lovely big bike! Will you need to shorten the side stand at all?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi James, been skipping big chunks of the video I guess ;-) check the video at 3:45 and a demonstration at 16:51 !

[@JamesMcCreadie71]

@@Moonfleet41 No didn't skip anything, you were just on in the back ground but will rewatch. Just look to be sitting too high on the stand but fair play, will rewatch.

[@JamesMcCreadie71]

@@Moonfleet41 Watched those bits you suggested but I suppose we're all different, that's too high for my liking but if you're happy, it's your bike. Anyway, despite our personal preferences, nice big bike and thanks for vids and all the mods recently.

[@gerrypowell2748]

Good to know that it can be done👌

[@harowerks44]

The rear shocks can be revalved and setup for the riding type and rider plus gear. Made a huge improvement to my XE. Unfortunately unable to locate different weight main springs for the rear anywhere in the world. Ohlins don't even make any different ones. The forks can be improved a lot with a revalve too. Makes the bike handle much better than OEM on road and off road.

[@jasonshortphd]

Really nice design to those forks! I don't have any Ohlins ones. :)

[@scottcallaghan2890]

Hi del. On your scissor jacks you put under bikes do you know if you can buy the two support posts separately, I have a lift can’t see to find them anywhere, cheers for any info.

[@mikehowarth6165]

Another interesting video dell,very informative, regards mike, Derbyshire

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Mike👍, good to hear from you mate.

[@garethburningham9467]

I've just realised the tank is a different colour. What happened to the red & black tank?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi garath, hope you're keeping well... Swapped the tank for a black one mate..!

[@garethburningham9467]

Yeah I'm doing ok thanks mate. Just looking forward to some nice riding weather. Regards to you & Penny, speak to you soon... 👍

[@shaunglendinning]

Great job Del! Always appreciate the detailed description as you go along and of course the tips. Go well my friend.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Shaun👍, always good to hear from you mate.. Have a great week.

[@tinks43]

Who’d have thought they would be that simple to change. Fantastic design & simple to do. Well done to PP also 👏🏻

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks so much buddy! 😊, and yeah, simple easy construction and awesome quality as always from Ohlins !

[@renzovc]

Great video brother ! very informative ! i thought those springs were under a lot of pressure and was always intimidated working on them. But its nice to see how they are put together! great job brother keep up the great work !!!! bike is looking awesome 😎 Stay safe guys cheers from new york !!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@Moonfleet41]

I have to admit that looking at them i thought they would be tight in their seats too, but as you saw, with no weight on them they can be easily and safely dismantled ! Have a great week brother and keep safe both of you. D&Px

[@jerrys2346]

I would look really great on that bike!

[@MintyGusto]

Bike looks like it suits much better now and such a simple process to lower it! No messing about with dog legs... Its a very well thought out setup on that! Hope you and P are both doing well, my 20 year old FJR happily flew through its MOT today so I am over the moon 😉

[@Moonfleet41]

Wow, Congratulations mate, that's great news.. nowt to worry about for another year..!

[@MintyGusto]

@@garybarloe 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Blind comments? I watch every video because I support Del and Penny... And have done for years....

[@MintyGusto]

@@garybarloe what's really embarrassing is that you created a KZbin account just to troll someone.... 🤣🤣🤣

[@nicholasbishop3300]

Nice simple upgrade Del Nick Australia

[@williamtrue8305]

Where is Penny Pitstop?

[@Goldwing1500rider]

I need do that to my Goldwing!! I got short legs !! But…. I ended up putting trike on instead . I sure liked what you did… looks very sporty !!

[@Moonfleet41]

Did your Goldwing not have the air shocks on the back? You just let them down a little till they sit where they want?!

[@Goldwing1500rider]

Yep!! Not far enough down… LOL still can’t get my feet flat enough down… I tip toe holding the Goldwing up. People are amazed how well I ride… I lost 60 lbs after 7 surgeries in 3 year period. So, you can guessed com not strong as I used to be. Learned newer Goldwings is tad bit lower than older model. Dunno if that’s true.

[@loddude5706]

It's fine tuning the operational ride height (using a full box of Thrumpton's Continental chocolates) that takes the REAL skill . . . camera types often do very well, all the correct attributes - dedication, skill, bite radius, etc. : )xx

[@BIG-K]

What a crystal-clear demonstration that was, Del. Your videos continue to set the benchmark. All the best to you and PP. 🫡

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you Keith, Good to hear form you sir,, we hope you're keeping safe and well. !