Which DuraCanvas Jacket is for you? (Helikon-Tex Bushcraft Range)

[@vonsprague7913]

Love Helikon-Tex I've been wearing their gear for years and it's brilliantly designed and hard-wearing. I've owned the Pilgrim for two years and for me it's the ultimate outdoor smock for durability, pocket placement, put zips, etc. I own a green, black and coyote and I wear them all year round with layers. Top kit. Errrr happy birthday descendent of gobblers lol.

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Yes, they have hit the sweet spot for value for money and features that people actual like in their gear. All the best

[@keithorbell8946]

I do like Helikon tex, but their quality control is suspect and some designs are over done. I have the Woodsman, opened the packet, tried it on, pulled the hood on, tightened the rear hood tightening cord and one end came out of the internal channel, I should have sent it back but didn’t. I also don’t like the side zips going all the way under the arms, they just need to go to chest level (like a Buffalo Pile shirt), and the zips don’t lock, so the zips always open to their full extent when you pull it on.

[@safacanesafacane783]

@@keithorbell8946on my Woodsman anorak, i dont know if it about quality control but the logo patch on it are the normal one with lezard when it suppose to be the Little fire pit from bushcraft line

[@DarkFire515]

I've had my pilgrim anorak for 2 years or so now and I still really enjoy wearing it. Worth noting that despite being the 'heavyweight' of the range, it has so many ventilation zips and mesh-lined pockets that it can easily and comfortably be worn in 20+ degrees. Perfect for working around camp or going for a walk on a summer evening.

[@MoorlanderEDC]

It's surprising how warm it is but also how cool you can get if needed. Great design

[@Rocksau333]

Thank you very much for this comparison! I am thinking of buying either the SAS Smock or the Pilgrim Anorak, but I have not decided so far. For me, the best jacket would be the SAS with some pockets from the Pilgrim. The mesh, as you mentioned, under the armpits, the biceps pockets and a passthrough pocket on the back (like on patriot mk1) would make a no-brainer-take-my-money-jacket for my needs and liking. Greetz from germany. And: belatedly happy birthday, sir

[@LoganNavarro]

Fellow german here. The M2 Parka from ufpro has this. But it is way more extensive.

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Glad it was helpful! I agree. The SAS Smock is really nice however feels more like a civilian smock at times. I wonder if there was a conversation there about features and they scales some back to make it accessible to more people. I recently made some content on the L4 Recon Smock from Varusteleka and that ticks all of the boxes, however you're paying a wee bit more for that Thank you for the birthday wishes. Greeting from across the sea

[@MoorlanderEDC]

I love the look of the M2 Parka... but that price is definitely a hurdle. I'd have to use my whole months KZbin budget on that one jacket. I love the hood harness they have. I 😆can't see why more companies don't have a similar things in their outdoors clothing Hmmmmm... maybe I need to start squirrelling away some pennies

[@anonymous4201]

Which one did you go for? I’m leaning to the SAS but not sure as pilgrim seems good too and a popular choice.

[@stewartfooter3580]

Helikon tex make great kit and ive got polo shirts,alpha grid fleece,delta jacket(but need to replace it) all brought years ago and still going strong,great vid mate

[@scottlincoln9660]

Great video, thanks. I sold my Fjallraven Anorak, which was all hype and no features and bought two Helikon Pilgrim Smocks which are just as good and have more extras. Two mods for the Pilgrim are: 1. Sew two tape loops (like in the upper pockets) to the little pockets inside the Napoleon pockets. That way your compass etc is tethered to you. 2. The elbows are double fabric like the knee panels on the pilgrim trousers. I cut a little slit in the corner of the inside fabric, tape bound it to stop fraying and now I can insert the Helikon low-profile knee/elbow pads into them.

[@liamhoare94]

That SAS smock is wicked. Might have to do a buy. Wont tell the mrs 😂

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Just in case the Mrs finds out. I got your back. Tell her I made you 🤜🤛

[@Born2007]

I’m hoping eventually for an SAS Smock 2.0 that has bicep pockets, morale patch space, and a rear pocket on the small of the back (maybe even some inside pockets). It seems to me to be more similar to the M65 Covert rather than the anorak style Woodsman and Pilgrim.

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Agreed. It's a strange middle ground between the two anoraks

[@alanathey4678]

Evening, enjoyed the content and as you said maybe to have included the Mistral would have been a better choice. My only gripe is the SAS Smock I don’t think is available at Military 1st. Since March 23 and watching the show in Germany (that I don’t remember the name of) ,where it was introduced , I have tried to purchase one. In the end I have bought the M65 Covert Jacket and the Woodsman Anorak. Very happy with both by the way. The M65 Covert has the zipped end sleeve pocket - that could be a suggested improvement for the SAS Smock. I’m intrigued to see the other two contents / episodes you recorded today - you had a different beanie on today. It looked like it had little wings on it … Hope you had a good birthday weekend and plenty of inappropriate liquid celebrations. Bye for now

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Beanie content will be landing very soon The Covert M65 and Woodsman combo is a great choice. Perfect for so many occasion. Yes, I'll be back in Germany in March for IWA2024. Hopefully looking at lines that will be out this year and beyond. Hopefully also getting my face in with the other brand to help expand the channel and grow... plus a jolly away for the weekend in Nuremberg is just what the Doctor ordered 😆

[@themetalmaiden7462]

Great reviews. I have the Woodsman and it's great. The biggest improvement I'd like to see in all of these items that have hoods is the abilty to either roll up and secure the hood or be able to secrure it down flat. I'm sure they could add a piece of velcro or a snap to be able to do this. I'm going to add some velcro so that I can lay the hood down flat and keep it there vs it flapping around all the time.

[@MoorlanderEDC]

That would be a pretty nice update to it. Helikon-Tex have recently gone through a phase of updating some models. Fingers crossed the Woodsman is part of that programme. Thanks for watching 🤘

[@davidweidemann7275]

That is an excellent review video, thank you!

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Glad you enjoyed it! 🤙

[@knifemike9024]

At Lears 2 of them are on my wishlist 😂 SAS Smock Looks cool and the Pilgrim is cool 💪🏼

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Good choice!

[@dogdadoutdoors]

Amazing, I was just wondering this exact question (which was lighter/heavier) last day or so and this popped up.

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Glad it was helpful!

[@dirkschmidt4786]

Thanks for this good product presentation. I like Helikon Tex. Keep it up. Regards from Germany.🫡👍🏼

[@MoorlanderEDC]

You're more than welcome my friend. Glad to hear you enjoyed it. All my best

[@dirkschmidt4786]

@@MoorlanderEDC Thank's

[@ronaldroberts9556]

I wear my pilgrim jacket everyday, about 5-6 hrs total for early morning and evening dog walking. It’s just a brilliant anorak and probably my fave

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Hi Ronald, thanks for this. Always great to read comments from people who've put a products through its paces. All the best 🤙

[@garrybrown1979]

Good review pal, I've been looking for these three compared, there's one thing you missed.... doesn't the Woodsman have a duracanvas front but storm stretch material on the back? Which isn't fireproof or as robust.

[@09daveaz]

Would you say the pilgrim is longer in length than the woodsman?..

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Yes definitely. Not a massive amount, however, it definitely wears a wee bit longer in the body 🤙

[@pauldavies9360]

I have the woodsman anorak but I find it a bit faffy taking it on and off personally. Also i seem to keep putting things in the joey pouch then bending over and it falls out on the floor 😂 The sas Smock with the full front zipper seems like a better choice in the future.

[@ndrichardson6217]

Still waiting for the SAS smock to come available in 4 XL don’t do fitted only found it going up the 3 XL in the bushcraft store

[@MoorlanderEDC]

I think a few people have commented they're waiting for larger sizes. Hopefully they'll arrive soon

[@anonymous4201]

Do you know what the pit to pit measurements are?

[@AkiraSRT9]

I can't find the SAS jacket for sale anywhere.

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Hmmmm... which side of the Pond are you situated?

[@safacanesafacane783]

Hi, is the Pilgrim warmer than the woodsman or the only change betwen this two are just aesthetic ?

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Great question. Weirdly on paper they're both the same, however, in reality the Pilgrim is ever so slightly warmer. The Woodsman is a single layer of Duracanvas which wears close to the body. The Pilgrim had a lot of internal pockets which are mesh backed. This mesh moved the Duracanvas away from the body slightly to help catch some air which the body warms. It's not a huge amount but it's enough to notice a difference. I hope that helps 🤙

[@safacanesafacane783]

@@MoorlanderEDC yes really thank for the anwser , and continue you graet content , love your channel , and i own my first Helikon bushcraft line gear because of you (Bushcraft satchel and the woodsman Anorak) witch i really like . But i noticed that the woodsman need a great under layer to be warm in fall season however it feel very comfortable. (ps: sorry for my english im french Canadian im beter to read or listen ahah)

[@MoorlanderEDC]

@@safacanesafacane783 always happy to help. Definitely don't apologise for your English. It's far better than my French language skills, especially since I finished school

[@impermanenthuman8427]

Is there a button or something to secure the hood back on the Helikon-Tex SAS Smock when not needed like on the British army smocks? Or does just flop forward around your face when you reach towards the ground

[@impermanenthuman8427]

Or can you use the cinch cord on the back of the hood to tighten the hood up so it stays back behind your head rather than dropping forward? (My work involves a lot of repetitive lifting and crouching etc)

[@MoorlanderEDC]

No, it's pretty floppy (that's what she said 😂)

[@MoorlanderEDC]

There is some adjustment in the sides to keep it closer to your head

[@impermanenthuman8427]

@@MoorlanderEDC 😆

[@anonymous4201]

Excellent and thorough review. I’m new to this brand so this was very insightful. You ought to be sponsored by HelTex lol. I hope they see this and take on your feedback for improvements. Do you have a video on their pants? Thanks

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Hi, thank you for the kind words. Yes, I'd love to work with them directly. I've made 4 or 5 pieces of content on their pants. They're amazing too. I have a Helikon Tex playlist with everything on if that helps 🤙

[@anonymous4201]

@@MoorlanderEDCthanks for the quick reply, will subscribe now and binge your channel haha. Nice 1. Where do you usually buy this gear from, I know they are on Amazon, Military 1st and The Bushcraft Store, where am I going to get the best bargain? lol

[@anonymous4201]

Also some feedback for you, please consider using chapters on your videos for quick reference. Minor issue, no offence lol. Thanks again

[@MoorlanderEDC]

@@anonymous4201 will do 🤙 all feedback is definitely welcome

[@sike3000]

i need helikon to start making bigger sizes for their shirts. jackets are great and fit, but their polos and shirts and just slightly too small

[@GenericBrandDan]

I don't understand those units of measurements, how much is that in freedom burgers?

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Ha ha ha... I'm 5, 10 in freedom burgers, 48" chest and 220lbs (that's on a good day without a belly full of Gran'mas apple pie) 🇺🇸🤜🤛🇬🇧

[@KubaB]

There should be fourth, heaviest Duracanvas Jacket in this comparision. Covert M65 😉 But unfortunately it has no armpit zip and during walk I'm sweating like pig 😒😒

[@MoorlanderEDC]

I did think about bringing in the Covert M65 however I think that's part of their Urban Line. The SAS and Covert M65 have more in common than the two other anoraks

[@unfi6798]

Facial Pubes..? Now what would those farmers shoveling excrement would be thinking if they saw some strange person keep changing clothes in the woods and talking to himself.?? Always informative and entertaining to the end. We like the Pilgrim Anorak. Gobblers Knob.? Please explain. So you "people" whom are responsible for the creation of "Australian" by deporting your criminals to The Land Down Under. Happy 21st Birthday matey. Stay safe. Stay Moorlander. Stay You.!

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Ha ha ha... the farmer sees me a lot. We're on first name terms It's part of the Ground hog day celebrations in the US. The Groundhog day film is real and there's a famous event in a small town called Punxsutawney new Pittsburgh. The congregate in the town centre around a tree called Gobbler's Knob 😆 We could be related. You could be a long lost Moorlander who's relatives were sheep rustlers Thanks for the birthday wishes buddy 🤘

[@LaResistenciaEDC]

Is it still made in pakistan?

[@MoorlanderEDC]

I don't think they're made in Pakistan. They're definitely made in a South East Asian place. Can't remember where but not Pakistan

[@davidhudson7590]

I used to enjoy your vids but now your sales rep for helikon 😂wear or use these items daily for 1 to 3 years then say if decent all specs are online it's OK for cheap ish gear but ex army gears cheaper and better if you like looking mr soldier that never served his coun try

[@MoorlanderEDC]

I hear the 'Walter Mitty' look is all the rage this season 😆 You're not wrong about the Helikon-Tex brand ambassador, I should be on their payroll. I think as content creators its easy to keep to products or brands you know well or have a lot of enthusiasm for. I know Helikon content also goes down well with viewers. I'll be at IWA2024 this year and I know the Helikon booth will be jam packed with fans. I have a few other brand I'll be looks at more this year. Luckily Military 1st help and support the channel with gear

[@RyanDogs]

Hello David, did you serve? I'm willing to wager "never served your country" also applies to you....screamer....that's what you are my good man, I did "serve" 10 years so I know about kit and equipment and what I know compared to this man you could write on the back of a fag packet I currently work in hostile security and I use this man's reviews for my own purchases and he doesn't miss If he waited 3 years to review something he wouldn't have much of a channel would he? HELMET