My guess is that he Punisher was made for all-tank armies; for players who wanted to field a whole armoured company, no infantry, without missing on massed firepower.
@zacharywoudstra5917 Жыл бұрын
As a nearly pure tank guard player, this is exactly right. I struggled vs necron warriors at first. Once I picked up a Punisher, I no longer feared hordes. Granted, I only run 1, but still.
@rubberuke Жыл бұрын
If you aren't running 5 punishers, you aren't playing 40k
@LB-yg2br Жыл бұрын
This is spot on. It brings the necessary weed wacker fire power when all you have are tanks. I played a 7th edition tournament list againt a pure tank list and I played a pure infantry list and the two punishers did the lion's share of killing. 5 rounds of those 20 something shot gatlings almost tabled me. I still won on victory points but it was looking dicey.
@ArkadiBolschek Жыл бұрын
@@LB-yg2br It's always dicey when it comes to WH40K ;3
@bluntpencil2001 Жыл бұрын
I run a full armourrd company, but never use Punishers. I'd always take an Eradicator before a Punisher.
@agreedo9530 Жыл бұрын
It was nice when the Vanquisher was good for like 3 weeks...
@wolfhunter98 Жыл бұрын
I miss when Pask was a thing. Him in a Vanquisher was fun. They still sell him on the GW online store to taunt us. :c
@TheTobaccoman Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah it was nice
@LemanRussVanquisher Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I got in a few really good games with a Vanquisher in 9th. Such a cool model and a fan favorite and they just refuse to make it good.
@Anton-cc7yc Жыл бұрын
Built one during 8th. Still no regrets 😂 out of all LMs the Vanquisher looks the most badass
@dococ32729 ай бұрын
Still is for me. Just play 9th. It cannot be hard to find someone who would play ninth it wasn’t for me. I genuinely don’t understand why most non competitive 40K players HAVE to play the current edition no matter what. You don’t see this “there’s a new edition and it’s all we can play” mentality in DnD, MTG, Pokémon, bolt action those are just what I know. I just see nothing but game breaking to excuse more rules and more books from a gross retail first company; still full retail for old stock; third party rules stifling; removing models from the game and zero official GW support for old rules. You’re a comp player I get it it’s GWs fault they don’t allow their game to breathe in all forms like MTG; the comp scene will fail in time. My main problem is what is your excuse if you’re just coming in to play with neighbors on Sunday?? The adherence to the current edition by non comp players is the fault of those players. It’s so silly to me for a non comp player to complain something was only powerful for 3 weeks before the edition change. It’s your own fault for letting GW tell you that money you spent was no longer worth anything and you believed it.
@tonmandude Жыл бұрын
5 days after this is released, LRs have dropped 15 pts in cost. LETS GOOooo
@pads-zr9ln Жыл бұрын
I was so happy to just see the exterminator get twin linked and rapid fire, I have the og model with the metal turret but it's always been naff
@jasongarfitt1147 Жыл бұрын
I love that model
@xblue_kennyx4519 Жыл бұрын
The vanquished should have had (anti x) and or devastating wounds. And it's ability should either stay or become it procks dev wounds on 4+ that would have made it actually tastey. We as guard players aren't afraid to pay points for good stuff. The executioner weapon is a tad below where it needs to be for this edition but with it. It would have been nice if they kept the 'plasma vents' and incorporated this into its ability and made it something around either a fnp against the mortals when overcharging. Or some reduced wounds from it overcharging. And encouraging you to not use its standard profile.
@merengueatang4 Жыл бұрын
The vanquisher should absolutely not have a 50% chance to do 9.5 mortal wounds, at least from a "playing against" perspective. It was already boring and unfun in ninth (what's that? An effectively unsaveable attack that ignores invulns and does an average of something like 11 wounds that wounds on twos, hits on threes rerolling, and autowounds on six? Great, my tank has been one tapped, that was fun), but then at least only d3 of the wounds were mortal. Making all of them mortal is not the answer, and also defeats the point of removing "ignores invulns" (which was one of the big issues from ninth) even further.
@xblue_kennyx4519 Жыл бұрын
@merengueatang4 yeah I get you there. It's either a big damage potential. Or 'reliable' damage potential. I think for spending so much on a single shot. We would appreciate the reliable side. But yeah I get d6+6 being too much if they were to change its damage output to mortals
@markstewardson4006 Жыл бұрын
@@xblue_kennyx4519 honestly I think it just having two shots a turn would be the best way to go maybe drop the max damage from 12 to 8 or 9 to compensate.
@markdorn8873 Жыл бұрын
I've got an Exterminator in my painting queue with 3 heavy bolters. I plan to name it "MOAR DAKKA!"
@ronpaul5319 Жыл бұрын
I just wish it was easier to give tanks orders. Either get 1 order per 2 tanks with a tank commander, or a max of 3 orders with a huge investment in lord solar+friends
@YOUR-BODY-MMY-CHOICE Жыл бұрын
I only take a Exterminator now. The rest of army is indirect fire 🔥 infantry and scions.
@pippagibbins2071 Жыл бұрын
give ur Toni commander grand strategist for just fifteen pts, also leontus is pretty much an auto include for guard lists
@jasongarfitt1147 Жыл бұрын
Grand strategist enhancement is almost compulsory on tank commanders
You're right mordian, I do think you're wrong about the executioner. It's better than the battle cannon. The additional AP makes it comparable against heavy armor, and it far out performs the battle cannon against everything else except terminators.
@glukeFlywalker Жыл бұрын
Agree. Also, it is easy to get a squad of something to half strength in turns 1-3 and makes a nice coup de grace. Maybe only 1 of these?
@peterlaszlo9830 Жыл бұрын
Eradicator is supernice to tankshock with to stop charges against other russes. Just bring one allong the main groups. And your opponent often miss to shoot it out before due to that they try to priorities the "important" russ next to it.
@jamesloder8652 Жыл бұрын
A russ not being good enough to be worth shooting is not really an upside lol
@milomoran582 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesloder8652cheaper though
@jamesloder8652 Жыл бұрын
@@milomoran582 not really relevant to my point
@milomoran582 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesloder8652 eh. "Worth" and "good enough" evaluations should include points. You aren't really wrong though
@jamesloder8652 Жыл бұрын
@milomoran582 of course the points cost is relevant, but the points cost does not change the fact that "not worth shooting at because it's not very good" is not really an upside lol
@sellis5716 Жыл бұрын
The video I’ve been waiting for, thank you so much Mordian - I’m just working on an old skool executioner and can’t wait to get it on the table
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@imjustsam1745 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that the rules for the demolisher cannon were a copy-paste job from the Space Marine Vindicator that has a dozer blade integral to the model. That would explain it being able to fire in combat. That's a cool tank too.
@mjr88886 ай бұрын
Its fun to come back to this after we see Mordian changing his mind on the Vanquisher these past few weeks.
@mikewarren1743 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video especially seeing as it's my birthday tomorrow (42 yes young) and I'm getting an imperial guard combat patrol box along with a leman russ tank as I'm about to start my fourth army and have been deliberating for days as to which russ variant to use... cheers
@BloodBuffalo Жыл бұрын
I run the large punisher gatling with plasmas. Devestating wounds. The Large PP devestates
@KevinPuttock1981 Жыл бұрын
The Eradicator's and Demolisher's abilities don't allow them to shoot plasma sponsons into melee enemies which is a bit of a shame... can fire the big gun up close but not the sponsons
@PeterButchens Жыл бұрын
I miss having a Leman Russ Exterminator in my Space Wolves Army... oh well, at least it found a new home in my guard.
@keyanklupacs6333 Жыл бұрын
That hasnt been a thing since 3rd right?
@PeterButchens Жыл бұрын
@@keyanklupacs6333 God it's been so long. But I think it was up into 4th. A shame really, since it was beefier than the Predator Destructor. And with a natural BS3+ quite amazing. I would trade Russes for the primaris anti-grav tanks any time of the day.
@joeladkins1046 Жыл бұрын
Love my Eradicators, played ‘em since 5Th edition
@JaronLindbom Жыл бұрын
100% on the fly in the ointment that is D6 damage for the demo, took two in a local tournament and everytime I needed a big hit to kill a heavy vehicle or a big monster, rolling 1s or 2s was such a bummer and swung games big time against me
@sergioms8612 Жыл бұрын
We know the combo "El clásico" We need a video of "El superclásico" a lethal combo of 2 rogal dorns
@BluCappy419 Жыл бұрын
El Clásico Royal
@wyatt864 Жыл бұрын
IMO armored spearhead is the strongest ability in the army. See a target on an objective? Because it triggers on ALL attacks; rerolls on the battle cannon, rerolls on lascannon shots, rerolls on multimelta shots, rerolls on HK missile shots, and you can charge infantry and tank shock before getting full rerolls on your melee attacks
@Katalmach11b Жыл бұрын
BRING BACK LEMAN RUSS INCINERATOR
@TikitheHutt Жыл бұрын
The Vendetta........duh
@-BL1NKY Жыл бұрын
So annoying that they removed the vendetta and made the vallyrie more expensive than half the leman russes
@SiggyCloud Жыл бұрын
Punisher, because anything that shoots that many times cannot possibly be bad.
@sjh7983 Жыл бұрын
If a unit is battleshocked when it dies, surely you can use reinforcements on it. It’s dead. It’s not on the table
@sjh7983 Жыл бұрын
Or, if you can, then Ursula creed should be able to use free reinforcements for sure
@drewschildwachter Жыл бұрын
@@sjh7983She cannot, for just that reason. They are not on the table.
@whitemiasma5288 Жыл бұрын
Alas, that is a two edged sword.@@sjh7983
@simonmiller53518 ай бұрын
this video has made feel happier about about my ork battlewagons
@TimRobson30 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get why the vanquisher gets so much doubt now. In 10th so far my beloved vanquisher has one shot killed two vindicator tanks, a wraithlord 4 games in a row a and countless other monsters and vehicles. get it hitting on 2,s rerolling 1,s and it naturally re rolls wounds with good reliable damage.
@trystanmarchand1293 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, my vanquisher also took down one of my friends wraith knights with its reroll ability
@andhil370 Жыл бұрын
So has mine. But then again, it has also gone an entire game without hitting a single thing. barring one (1) Overwatch attack.....So I feel the Single Shot point mentioned in the video has merit
@TimRobson30 Жыл бұрын
@@andhil370 i do get that point but I take enough tanks that I can happily afford to let one stay still. If you are firing at a target that’s daring reconed by a scout sentinel and give it take aim you can’t miss, hitting on 2’a re rolling 1’s. I find you have to do a lot more ground work to get some things to work in 10th but it’s definitely worth it.
@nickthenoodle9206 Жыл бұрын
Vanquishers are great against Towering units like Wraithknights. In these cases they need to be taken in at least a pair. At worst if it is targeted by a Wraithknight, that beast will need to usually use both of its cannon to destroy it, if the Vanq is accompanied by an Enginseer. It's an expensive decoy, but the second Vanq will normally real damage on it in your turn, usually requiring a re-roll for the to hit or to wound dice. The pair costs less than one Knight. This is the Guard army required to defeat the current best army. Guard Army 2000pts Bombard & Support Units 415pts 115pts Gaunt’s Ghosts 60pts Heavy Weapon Squads - Mortars x3 60pts Heavy Weapon Squads - Mortars x3 60pts Heavy Weapon Squads - Mortars x3 120pts Field Ordnance Battery - Bombasts Infantry Units 440pts 130pts Death Korps 80pts Death Korps Marshal + Drill Instructor 130pts Infantry Squad 60pts Command Squad 40pts Regimental Attaches Vehicles 1145pts 95pts Hydra 95pts Hydra 95pts Hydra 50pts Scout Sentinel 50pts Scout Sentinel 50pts Scout Sentinel 190pts Vanquisher 45pts Enginseer 190pts Vanquisher 45pts Enginseer 80pts Medusa Carriage Battery 80pts Medusa Carriage Battery 80pts Medusa Carriage Battery However, having watched your video, I might try to find 10 pts to upgrade a Vanq to an Exterminator.
@CastellanDamon10 ай бұрын
Low key that background music has me boogyin' and groovin'
@alexandercain8904 Жыл бұрын
If the Vanquisher was BS 3+ with reroll 1s to hit, it might be worth it. If the Punisher had some sort of suppressing effect like the Basilisk it would be better. If the Executioner got +1 to wound when it supercharged, it would be worth it. The Eradicator actually sounds decent now. Still over costed (especially against enemy armor), but decent. If the regular Russ and the Demolisher was D3+3 damage, they would be good. The Exterminator is good. Now, if they got all that ~and~ they were -50 points, they would be almost as good as Eldar tanks. Almost.
@dxpsumma383 Жыл бұрын
Salty McSaltmine. Thank the emperor that most of the MG community is not whining about not being overpowered. Eldar die to a stiff breeze, no comparison with the mighty LR
@Geezer2006 Жыл бұрын
Do this but for bane blades plz
@georgelonghurst2672 Жыл бұрын
i second this !!!!!!!!
@terranaxiomuk Жыл бұрын
I like the punisher. A broken clock is right at least once a day, or something 😂
@glukeFlywalker Жыл бұрын
Twice a day in America 😂
@chrisroberts313 Жыл бұрын
Not Guardsmen's biggest fan but like your vids... the courage determination and frustration is inspiring 😅 Marine fan with 3000pts Nid turkey shoot army and only 600pts of Marines which is a god send with the change to prober sized marines out 😊
@Gromeish Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind most factions have defensive stats they can use, setting up a exterminator and creeds debuffes is always off set by Smoke, Amour of contempt, -1 to wound, rotate shields etc. So most of the time you are just baiting out CP which isn't bad, but it means your LRBC will still be bouncing off terminators with 2up + cover + armour of contempt. Or custards with -1 damage. Or they can make overlapping fields of fire cost +1cp. Unfortunatly its very easy for your opponent to just see what combo you are setting up and counter it with their own cp or free strats. 200point models should be able to carry its own, and LRBC or LRExterm simply cant. A demolished can hold its own, but for 220pts its range is so short, its damage too swingy, and its basically paper without an invul. I have 6 LRs and I hope the balance data slate fixes them, but until they they will sit on a shelf.
@samuelbaldwin2184 Жыл бұрын
I hope LR get better but in this meta I'm starting to doubt it
@jasongarfitt1147 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelbaldwin2184they had a point drop in the dataslate
@keyne444 Жыл бұрын
My guess is that the Demolisher and Eradicator serve the same role on the battlefield, only the Eradicator is the long range cover blower and the Demolisher is the frontline cover blower.
@SteelStorm33 Жыл бұрын
vanquisher needs a coaxial rule, plus rerole to wound vs monster and vehicle, plus devastating wounds, but no heavy. executioner needs the same profile as the regular russ cannon at least, plus reroleable hazard tests. these two needs to be fixed fundamentally. all bad other leman russes are just a matter of their point cost, so no hard changes needed.
@reptilesarecool97639 ай бұрын
Vanquisher already gets wound reroll on vehicles and monsters
@joshuasutherland6692 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit I was just wondering when you were gonna do an all Russ vid last night.
@pqfire09509 ай бұрын
If im running two russ's in a 1k point army, should I bring one demolisher and a tank commander or two demolishers? If its the former what should the tank commander have as a main weapon?
@rubberuke Жыл бұрын
The rule of cool states the hellhound is the best
@getrektasaurus484311 ай бұрын
Just got 2 Leman Russ. Considering a Battle Tank and the Executioner as builds, would you recommend?
@AndyPaintsPoorly Жыл бұрын
Well I guess I'll have the magnetise my russes since in heresy the Vanquisher is pretty great
@meinfuss1709 Жыл бұрын
All Leman Russ variants should be 100pts, so I can take 20 in a list.
@Storehouse-805 Жыл бұрын
Punisher is 180 my friend! Easy slip of the tongue haha!
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
Oh why what did I say? 😅
@xMcCabe32x Жыл бұрын
@@MordianGlory280…..
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
@@xMcCabe32x Oh lol my bad!
@s.h-d6074 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I amtraumatised by playing against Knights but I cannot imagine leaving my two Demolisher at home. Bit since I amas well traumatised by the swingy d6 dmg I will give other variants a try...I wasn't able to down a Porphyrion in one turn anyway.
@anthonysauls1446 Жыл бұрын
I woke up on the eradicator early, before I seen anyone talk about it. I especially love it for taking on Necrons. I'll take 3 of em agaisnt a necron army easy.
@terranaxiomuk Жыл бұрын
How early?
@anthonysauls1446 Жыл бұрын
@@terranaxiomuk it was my second game of 10th ed. We did Tau and IG vs Necrons and Necrons. I brought a blitzkrieg army featuring the eradicators with triple flamers, a demolisher with triple flamers, and a hellhound.
@terranaxiomuk Жыл бұрын
@@anthonysauls1446 Oh ok. Nice.
@reptilesarecool97639 ай бұрын
How’d they do?
@anthonysauls14469 ай бұрын
@@reptilesarecool9763 they did really well agaisnt pretty much all necron Infantry especially as a blitzed them full-speed ahead supporting each other and with hellhound support for ap
@Ganthrithor13 Жыл бұрын
Hmm I will have to try out the auto cannons.
@akitainu78 Жыл бұрын
Just bought 2 LMs and a RD to start my first 40K army, going tanks only first. So how should I build them? I read pne Pubisher with Pask and one Demolisher? I guess I need more tanks! 😂
@wolfhunter98 Жыл бұрын
Wait, dumb question. But when you roll D6 damage, do you do that for extra shot? Say the demo cannon wounds twice, do you roll 2D6? Or one D6 and both wounds is that damage? Also fun thought, the exterminator can get 1st rank fire, 2nd rank fire order as it's a rapid fire weapon lol. Doubt that math hammers out better than Take Aim, but still might be fun at rapid fire range as it'd get 10 shots.
@Baktrianos Жыл бұрын
No damage is rolled once. It counts for every wound you make. So if you wound 3 times you deal 3 damages on 3 different targets. Meaning you can one shot big infantry like terminators or custodies with 3 wound each.
@wolfhunter98 Жыл бұрын
@@Baktrianos Ok so it's one damage roll per gun then? I know for flat damage any overkill doesn't "spill over" to other units minus mortal ones. Just been out of the game for ages now. Last time I played was when tanks still had armor value. Trying to get a feel for the rules again. Local store is closed till tomorrow so can't go bug them for a refresher / into game. Gonna get back into it in 10th. But most of my army is grey shame so RIP. Got 60 of the new Cadian's painted. Maybe 50-80 old troopers (gotta get them from a buddies house) and few old russ's and should still have the old Chimera / basi. Rest is uh grey or in boxes... >.
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
Sorry to disagree with the other comment, but you need to roll each D6 damage. So lets say you fire you demo cannon at a squad of terminators You roll the number of shots, lets say overall you get 6 You then roll to see how many of those shots hit, lets say in this case 4 of them do Then you roll to see how many of the those 4 hits wound, lets say they all do because its a really strong weapon Then the termies roll their saves, and they stop 2 of them You then have to roll the damage for the remaining 2. You roll these 1 at a time Lets say the first one rolls a 3, great thats 1 termie dead but then the next one rolls a 2, booo you have not killed that terminator as it has 3 wounds so it is left with 1 left Hope that all makes sense :)
@noahkalmes771610 ай бұрын
I know D6 damage is traumatizing, but each one that gets through will score 3.5 damage on average! It feels bad emotionally when you roll poorly, but I think we should set that aside and play the odds. The more you shoot, the more consistently you'll hit that 3-4 damage
@richardjohnson684910 ай бұрын
Vanquisher with scout sentinel hits on +3 rerolling 1's no order needed.
@chrisgoodier6825 Жыл бұрын
Tank commanders should be able to order 3 tanks within 12” with same order.
@xerty5502 Жыл бұрын
3 would be way to good for a generic leader and how are they supposed to get you to use lord solar if the only other way to get vehicle orders is acualy decent at doing so. Reminding you hear that because lord solar needs mastervox to issue orders effectively he cost 245 not the 125 that his data sheet shows. If he did bot also give you a cp and provide a wrong timing redeploy he would kinda suck. As it is you are probaly better off taking 2 tank commanders 1 with grand strategist for 2 orders yes thatvcost 425 not 245 almost double but you get 2 lemon russes to kill things with generally tougher and way shootier then lord solar and his command squad and infantry caddie.
@norabder8816 Жыл бұрын
I actually think Vanquishers are important for armoured list. Most enemies will have a limited amount of AT. Doomsday ark sat behind a ruin? Place your Vanquisher pointing at the ruin, he has to move to hit you, so needs 3s, most the time you will survive or they have to commit more firepower than its worth (remember to pop smoke). If you survive, the opposition won't, the cannon + Lascannon + HK does work. Alternatively it scares your opponent into playing cagey with his AT. All 3 outcomes are a win, regardless you are effectively neutralising the biggest threat to your army. In non armour lists its probably not worth it though.
@norabder8816 Жыл бұрын
Tldr: the vanquisher forces opponents big units to play around you, winning you the initiative in a firefight.
@bluntpencil2001 Жыл бұрын
Any changes to the list after the points changes? I rate Vanquishers as usable now, just because they're cheap. Of course, I do run a full tank company, so I can afford to have specialist units.
@niche308511 ай бұрын
Hi im looking for vanquisher ryza pattern turrets but sadly they dint sell it any morr, someone can help pls?
@one_above_all5864 Жыл бұрын
It's the Rogal Russ, of course .
@andrewredden7442 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to 40k and noticed there are more variants than this? incinerator, punisher, eradicator, exterminator, executioner, conqueror, demolisher, annihilator. Can someone help? are some not able to be used?
@JellothePallascat Жыл бұрын
The three tanks I have for my themed army… one is a Vanquisher. The other is a Punisher… fuck….
@dudebromanguy Жыл бұрын
I also have a vanquisher and a punisher. Expert Sharpshooters on the vanquisher was sooooo nice in 9th. RIP
@BlueGoblin1 Жыл бұрын
The all infantry man is giving me advoce on tanks🤨
@357Dejavu Жыл бұрын
Fun video, very helpful for newbies like my self.
@ramboalpha6915 Жыл бұрын
Eradicator is simply, without a doubt, the SUPERIOR Leman russ variant. Give me 5. No, 50.
@chrisdowning3153 Жыл бұрын
Recommendation: Can you please put chapter markers on these videos? Would make life easier when coming back to them :D
@operator9858 Жыл бұрын
I was looking at the punisher to take out necrons...gotta wipe those squads out...
@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ Жыл бұрын
bro, my vanquisher really does nothing lol
@taxman3749 Жыл бұрын
What I the best turret weapon to fit on the Tank Commander?
@operator9858 Жыл бұрын
If you are going to go for a commander you might as well throw on the demolisher no? Its 200 points otherwise...
@taxman3749 Жыл бұрын
@@operator9858 I was thinking that too -- in fact, I probably will. Ultimately my commanders have to lead from the front, like it or not. A russ is a russ.
@Dram1984 Жыл бұрын
My reading of the rules is you cannot stack heavy and take aim, am I wrong?
@timothyharnedy4495 Жыл бұрын
Obvs with the Vanquisher you take more than one, and then you have two or three shots with the main turret weapon.
@operator9858 Жыл бұрын
Vanquisher seems like the only option when nids are taking 4 and 5 super monsters...or does anyone else have any alternatives that im not seeing? Shadowsword is kinda expensive...guess 3 demolishers maybe? dorn seems like it is going to get tied up and wont do any more damage then the demolisher russ...
@scotty5213 Жыл бұрын
the only reason I run a punisher is I only have russes (back from the end of 5th) so I need it to kill hoards :D
@tomyorke3412 Жыл бұрын
For me its the punisher lots of brrrrrrr. Or plasma always loved plasma on my guard ever since 3rd edition
@markstewardson4006 Жыл бұрын
I wish they lent into the punisher and give it sustained hits 1 or 2 as well that or a suppressed effect to debuff an enemy unit
@Dram1984 Жыл бұрын
But… but… the vanquisher is bigger?!
@alanredmond88 Жыл бұрын
Reroll to wound on 5s is only slightly over 50%. I don't think exterminator is good against heavy tanks. I'd say exterminator and battle cannon are fine against 3 wound infantry or 2 wound with fnp
@jamesloder8652 Жыл бұрын
Overall agreed, I think the only thing I would change is to put the Demolisher in 3rd behind the LRBC
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
That's fair, when you get to the top 3 really all of them can be argued to be the best :)
@EmperorSigismund Жыл бұрын
The Executioner is wasted potential. It should get bonuses to hit units that are ABOVE half str and at full str. It would play so well into the high risk/reward of the weapon as well as the story of the suicidal, glory seeking crews spearheading the charge in one the Guards most premier tanks.
@curtisthornsberry42368 ай бұрын
only played one game of 10th. Guard Vs a tank heavy Space Marine army. the leman russ's did the best out of that whole army.
@northerngamer1604 Жыл бұрын
The exterminator has nine shots with first rank fire second rank fire
@operator9858 Жыл бұрын
If you are going to take a demolisher you might as well take the commander no? Only a few points more...
@quintenvos7906 Жыл бұрын
Not me, who has 3 russes, 1 punisher and 1 vanquisher
@operator9858 Жыл бұрын
starting to realize that you dont need leontus or a tank commander if you can get the same bonus's from orders as you can from various unit abilities and strategems. most of these apply to any units firing at the same targets too...and creed gives free strategems meaning you will likely end up with more cp then you would with leon's bonus points as well.
@keyne444 Жыл бұрын
Also the best Russ is the Annihilator 😎
@ProjectLazarus1982 Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@rileyernst9086 Жыл бұрын
What, no conqueror?
@ryza7760 Жыл бұрын
the worst one imo is the tank commander, hitting on 4s is AWFUL. last game i used it in it missed more than it hit. utterly worthless.
@eyohboy45510 ай бұрын
and rapier laser destroyers outshine them lol
@thirdeyespirit7530 Жыл бұрын
whats best barrel for Brood Brothers GeneStealer Cult army? Grerat vid. thanks
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
GSC tend to need long range fire support, they are fine at close range damage with their own units. So maybe go for a Battle Tank
@thirdeyespirit7530 Жыл бұрын
@@MordianGlory thank you, Battle Tank it is! I’m on all ur vids, I got 1k Tempestus Scions Army and Astra Militarum Combat Patrol. Doing a 2k GSC Brood Bothers Army playing double agent for the Emperor.. so going heavy w/ Imperium icons/decals! 🪽💀🪽
@ericmumper6821 Жыл бұрын
It's the Rogal Dorn. The Dorn is the best Leman Russ. 🤣
@Vasily_Kotickovitch10 ай бұрын
I'm deathly tired of Games Workshop bureaucracy - "One model for only one system." Just look: everyone loves the Horse Heresy, but it's just a commercial product parasitizing on Warhammer 40,000 glory. It's 40k models, 40k designs, old 40k rules and 40k lore. And everything that belongs to HH now is taken from 40k and is now practically dead in 40k! The Horse Heresy evokes nothing but hatred in me. Today they showed a new Leman Russ - an icon of Warhammer 40,000 - but for the Heresy only. This 100% means that “tomorrow” Leman Russ will be removed from 40k forever, it cannot be otherwise. Because bureaucracy. Say "thank" to the Horus Heresy and "Goodbye" to Leman Russ!
@jaimeperales7219 Жыл бұрын
Can someone put time stamps
@jagermeister_1754 Жыл бұрын
For an apocalypse game? Don't take a demolisher 😂😂mine fired like once/twice over two days
@pabloalonsolasagabaster658 Жыл бұрын
Nice video but... Did I just hear that the exterminator has the number of shots? It only has 4 shots!! It is only good as a force multiplier, and even as a force multiplier, in one have I fired those 4 shots and missed with all of them (including a cp re roll). It´s damage output is not good at all , since it is the other russes that benefit from his rule, but not him. I use it just to get my battle cannons to their rightful AP-2
@operator9858 Жыл бұрын
Its got rapid fire 4 as well bro...
@pabloalonsolasagabaster658 Жыл бұрын
@@operator9858 let me check
@pabloalonsolasagabaster658 Жыл бұрын
@@operator9858 hahhh thanks! Ive been playing it wrong. So at 24 imches it makes 8 shots? That is amazing 😂
@Buggyismellow Жыл бұрын
Oh heck yeah I’m early to this one!! Whoop whoop!! 🎉
@dococ32729 ай бұрын
Just play 9th. It cannot be hard to find someone who would play ninth it wasn’t for me. I genuinely don’t understand why most non competitive 40K players HAVE to play the current edition no matter what. You don’t see this “there’s a new edition and it’s all we can play” mentality in DnD, MTG, Pokémon, bolt action those are just what I know. I just see nothing but game breaking to excuse more rules and more books from a gross retail first company; still full retail for old stock; third party rules stifling; removing models from the game and zero official GW support for old rules. You’re a comp player I get it it’s GWs fault they don’t allow their game to breathe in all forms like MTG; the comp scene will fail in time. My main problem is what is your excuse if you’re just coming in to play with neighbors on Sunday?? The adherence to the current edition by non comp players is the fault of those players. It’s so silly to me for a non comp player to complain something was only powerful for 3 weeks before the edition change. It’s your own fault for letting GW tell you that money you spent was no longer worth anything and you believed it.
@samuelbaldwin2184 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately its none of them 😭. They just die immediately for very little cost from your enemies
@cainecastorius7310 Жыл бұрын
A Hit roll can never be modified by more than -1 or +1
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
Hit roll +1 BS +1 They stack :)
@cainecastorius7310 Жыл бұрын
Oh ok, amazing, thank you! 😊
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
@@cainecastorius7310 No worries! It because one is modifying the dice roll, and the other is changing the BS stat on your datasheet
@lorddragonya10 ай бұрын
Your voice bro wtf
@tommymoran8955 Жыл бұрын
Why are you screaming in the video it’s a lil off putting
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
Because I am an over excitable man-child who gets a little too into it when I am talking about Guard tanks
@tommymoran8955 Жыл бұрын
@@MordianGlory honestly valid
@internetuser320 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone skipped to the point for me? Thank you
@shae98sc2 Жыл бұрын
Demolisher and Executioner. Demolisher because big gun and ability to ignore firing restrictions in close combat. Exterminator for rapid fire 4 twin linked autocannons and synergy with extra AP for concentrated firepower.
@dr.fistus94 Жыл бұрын
timestamps are needed
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
That wound ruin the suspense!
@Geezer2006 Жыл бұрын
True Secretly can’t be asked lol 😂
@ArkadiBolschek Жыл бұрын
@@MordianGlory Not really. Just name them "Seventh Place", "Sixth Place", etc.