..... No Bamboo Spears? No Lunge Mines? DO YOU EVEN BANZAI?
@keyne44410 ай бұрын
He doesn't banzai. Just pretending to banzai.
@shae98sc29 ай бұрын
TENOHEKA BANZAAAAAAAAIIIII (which is technically praising the emperor)
@jonsmith224010 ай бұрын
Thank you for the scion content 🙏
@heralds4 ай бұрын
Those crystal bases at the start looked great
@Jimmydehand604910 ай бұрын
Next question - Are Valkyries these days just shelf/display fodder? I always loved the idea of fielding one or two of 'em with some Scions to drop in and take out vulnerable backline units.
@TheOneStooge10 ай бұрын
Yes. Valkyries are still bad.
@giantninja917310 ай бұрын
Tbf most aircraft are bad right now.
@baconbliss47969 ай бұрын
Aircraft rules have fudged almost all aircraft up
@shae98sc29 ай бұрын
As an air cav enthusiast, unfortunately yes. They cost as much as a Russ but have a Heavy Weapons Squad worth of firepower. They’re just too overcosted for their role compared to the Taurox Prime, or even deep striking the scions. Writing was on the wall for air cav in 9th, and now they hammered the nail on the coffin in 10th.
@DaKdawg8 ай бұрын
It's a shame...I really enjoy the Valkyrie model. I still want to believe in the Air Cav option....you can take them in hovermode, but then that just makes them easy fodder. It's a shame. If I get around to building a Scion force I'm going to bring them along regardless. If they're still around by then.
Can I sub the RD with Leman Demolisher(or Exterminator)? Or do you take RD for the ability? I'm not a fan of RDs, but this list looks great 😊
@morganrudolph792910 ай бұрын
It's funny how everyone misses the scions get rerolls in combat too! They are much better in Melee than any other infantry except for ogryns and riders. I love charging scions in with the power fist getting full rerolls. I even take it further and get a command sqd and Nork in on that. (If ironhand is amazing for 55pts Nork is totally worth 60)
@theStamax9 ай бұрын
Nork is pretty solid i think especially in Scions. Due to some funny interactions you can use reinforcements on him too (because tempestus command is a regiment unit and nork is part of the unit for the battle. Also only way to use reinforcements on an officer)
@konradd75679 ай бұрын
This is such a troll combo. Scions+Cmd sqd+Nork. And you can return both and nork if you use 2xReinforcments (you will get 2 separate squads though).
@ryansoto70939 ай бұрын
Literally why my main Scion focused list has done so good I rock the 15 man blob plus nork and drop in shoot up the area then charge in the mosh pit and it’s devastating Norks thunderous head butt is dope and then I’ve got 26 normal Scion attacks plus Tempestor power fist plus 4 prime attacks it’s epic!
@Madlarkin0010 ай бұрын
I think the 5 man squads should be punchy... Plasma gun, melta gun and Plasma pistol power fist sgt. Reason I say this is if you draw assassinate and people are running lone operative single characters... gives you a good chance to take them out and potentially get the charge. Just my opinion
@operator985810 ай бұрын
Ya but if you are after backfield objectives guarded by cheap infantry the extra shots may be vital...
@Madlarkin0010 ай бұрын
@operator9858 it's still 3 Plasma shots, 1 melta and 4 rifle shots... so 8 shots vs 11 shots, both have the option to charge.. like my other comment said just my opinion...
@rulesmanufactorum10 ай бұрын
Sweet scion content!
@PitFriend110 ай бұрын
It’s weird to me that in order to take a voxcaster the Scion has to give up his Lasgun when no other Militarum model has to do it. I can only figure it’s because they couldn’t figure out how to model one with both the voxcaster and the backpack for the hotshot Lasgun. Luckily you don’t need one anymore to get orders at a distance so it’s easy enough to just not use and go with the firepower instead.
@WeDontTalkAboutJosh10 ай бұрын
They used to be able to, it's because the kit only comes with one sheathed hotshot lasgun per 5 models. So naturally they decided it goes on the medic and the vox-man can screw himself because reasons.
@shae98sc29 ай бұрын
What confuses me even more is the fact that the sergeant can’t take a hotshot lasgun. It’s just whacky to me.
@WeDontTalkAboutJosh9 ай бұрын
@@shae98sc2 same with all Guard units, for some reason. Hell, they could have added it with the new shocktroops and instead gave the sergeant a slightly different 24" range S3 AP0 weapon, because reasons.
@kippercsg9 ай бұрын
Honourable mention: if your Scions are Battleline, they can be joined by an Inquisitor in Terminator armour, he can deepstrike in with them, bringing a psycannon with him.
@CuthbertCream9 ай бұрын
I can't find the datasheet for them. Are they in 10th edition?
@kippercsg9 ай бұрын
@@CuthbertCream Imperial Agent Legends document.
@mattmark949 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a new Inquisitor in TA model
@javilo27978 ай бұрын
@@kippercsg none of them have deesptrike
@kippercsg8 ай бұрын
@@javilo2797 Scions and the Inquisitor in Terminator Armour both have deepstrike.
@slyoldowl10 ай бұрын
I didnt think about it but grenade launchers might be pretty good on a scion or kasrkin squad mostly because bs 3 and rerolls
@jo_ken9 ай бұрын
Yeah they’re sorta glossed over a little in the video, but they’re not bad especially being versatile with the Krak or Frag profiles. Pretty much pulling double duty of punch and horde shooting.
@6-4crusader5510 ай бұрын
I’ve had decent luck with a five minute science squad with just a plasma again
@ThePrinceOfSpace4136 ай бұрын
my fellow helldivers
@Harem__King4 ай бұрын
No
@jakejohnson955210 ай бұрын
I’m curious, for punchy purposes, are the plasmas that much better than the grenades? Krak now also being s9 and ap-2. It’s less shots with a variable damage, but it’s also a higher strength. It’s a bit more versatile as well. It will wound light vehicles on 4’s too. Edit: I probably should have waited for the end 😅, I still think they should probably compared more to plasma than melta.
@Kingofdragons11710 ай бұрын
Plasma guns can be affected by FRFSRF too.
@kompatybilijny93489 ай бұрын
Plasma has more ap when overcharged, same average dmg per shot, same range and less strength, but more shots within half range and can be affected by FRF order.
@morcar899110 ай бұрын
Full Scion list: 3 Tempestus Command Squads, 6 10-men squads, 6 Tauroxes ... and what else?
@tonk849 ай бұрын
3 com squads, 6 10 man squads. 6 taurox. 3 psykers. 3 kasrkin. Eisenhorn Job done 😇
@ryansoto70939 ай бұрын
Bullgryns plus Nork it’s epic I promise
@deadfront963018 күн бұрын
Im quite new to warhammer 40k, my question is; can you mix and match astra militarum units in an army? Like some tempest scion and some kasrkin aswell as some normal cadians?
@ericsmith57702 ай бұрын
What are you doing with the unused flamer, grenade launcher, etc bit? Bits box? 3rd party bodies?
@Steelstriker10 ай бұрын
Hey mordian, do I have to be a patreon member to go on your discord or can being a youtube member get me on there?
@theconsensualgamer10 ай бұрын
KZbin member is all that's needed
@TheTobaccoman10 ай бұрын
Both of those squads are good but I’d go so far as to say that grenade launchers also can be viable as say perhaps better than plasma in a shooty squad and more synergy with volley guns than say the plasma for chaff units as well as having some chance against tough infantry in a pinch if needed. Sadly the only trap choice tends to feel like flamers this go round with them.
@aidanthornton1738 ай бұрын
Are Sentinels good with scions, or maybe an aircraft? I like the idea of fielding Scions. Could anyone recommend a list for scions?
@Nick_the_Salamander9 ай бұрын
So are the Scions better than Kasican?
@kompatybilijny93489 ай бұрын
Debatable, though Scions have better rules in my opinion - Deep Strike is better than Scout 6" and free order vs reroll 1s/all hits is slightly worse/slightly better if you take aim (78%/89% vs 83% to hit) and straight up better fro Rapid fire weapons if you FRF, assuming meither unit is getting any officers. Melta mine is... ok I guess? Kasrkin are better line infantry because of this, but if you plan putting a unit in a transport and quickly assaulting, then Scions have Taurox prime and its rerolls to wound for disembarking unit which trumps any advantage Kasrkin could have in regard of damage dealing.
@ryansoto70939 ай бұрын
Plus if the transport hits your target scions are re-rolling all hits and wound rolls on objectives
@badrabbit97038 ай бұрын
I'm Build my Start Collecting Militarum Tempestus kit right now. I don't have those S10 looking gas mask helmets at 1:00 in my kit? Are they an upgrade or 3d printed?
@patcoldstream79428 ай бұрын
These heads arent part of the plastic Scions kit. The models shown at 1:00 are the old metal Stormtroopers. These are sometimes sold on Ebay.
@badrabbit97038 ай бұрын
@@patcoldstream7942 Oh super cool! Thank you! Ima look for them now. They look great and I'd really like to put those on my guys. Any suggestion on price?
@keyne44410 ай бұрын
Or you take Kasrkin to completely murderize your target 😎😎😎
@ryansoto70939 ай бұрын
Kasrkin are dope for extra order but I prefer Scion re-roll 1s to hit or if you’re in engagement of objective re-roll entire hit roll plus I mean they deepstrike 😎 lots of flexibility for secondaries also if you bring them back with reinforcements they go back into deepstrike
@Iocanthos10 ай бұрын
1st
@keyvanarian446110 ай бұрын
Love their rules, hate the models
@operator985810 ай бұрын
Im just using the grenadiers models as subs instead lol