MORE dark forest cats turned into HORRIFYING MONSTERS (Warrior cats speedpaint+commentary PART 2)

[@rileybullock2895]

Ashfur..... definitely Ashfur.... the corrupted version of him should have the heart showing and burns on him, just like ash after a fire....

[@mousehead]

wait ashfur went to dark forest???

[@ohno_deerlady]

No he didn’t but he should have

[@_dizzy.starlight_]

@@mousehead he was in starclan but I think he later got in darkforest

[@lolbit9119]

​@@ohno_deerlady *spoilers for a broken code*: He died in the df after living there for about a few weeks or a month so

[@sashalovesrocks]

@@_dizzy.starlight_ YES THIS WOULD BENSO GOOD

[@thegreywolf9085]

Before you explained Thistleclaw's design I thought it was referring to the phrase "A wolf in sheep's clothing". I mainly believed this because Thistleclaw's body looked more like fabric, a kin to a costume. The idea that a wolf was literally growing out of him because of how much of a monster he was is so disturbing I love it

[@dangdao8068]

Or you could say it... he's a *predator*

[@thegreywolf9085]

@@dangdao8068 oh shoot, that's even more fitting

[@Blizwolf]

Burnout is real. Sometimes the healthiest thing you can do is take a break! Draw when YOU feel like it. Your hobby shouldn't have to feel like a job. 💜 I love your design thought process and how you translate different aspects of the characters to the design!

[@ZirconiaGacha]

Wait, what if Dark Forest trainees start gaining traits of what their Dark Forest forms would be in their dreams? Like, Ivypool now being stuck as a plant cat in her dreams because she made a whoopsie in accepting Hawkfrost's training offer? If they have those traits in StarClan it would probably scare the crap out of anyone there-

[@StarsAndWondersFNAF]

May Rushtooth rest in dentistry.

[@ZirconiaGacha]

@@StarsAndWondersFNAF Yep

[@spinoraptor2189]

Yes

[@looneyluAnimation1123]

* I’m making a joke * Some random starclan cat: * chilling* Ivypool:*dies* The random starclan cat:*sees ivypool’s starclan form* The same cat: WHAT THE HECK IS THAT?

[@grimmcorvid5713]

PLEASE do Oakstar, he banished Mapleshades kits, partially caused their death, was ruthless in general and STILL somehow gained respect. Like he was a saint. Also thats a fantastic idea for drawing concepts, unworthy starclan cats, perfect.

[@notreallyjohnlennon]

YES!! i was literally about to say oakstar but LITERALLY. everyone’s rude about Appledusk but then forget about oakstar..

[@ahaahbahoo1821]

OMG YES SHSHEHEUEIWIQOQ9

[@Sparkle8205]

YES!

[@laraendlight9887]

Not only that, but he literally says to Mapleshade something like: "With all cats in RiverClan, it had to be him (Appledusk)?" He put in danger kits far too youg to survive or not get sick even if the mother went for a different route (there was still a storm, river or not), basically went against the Code that tells to always help kits and elders (and Mapleshade did surely wrong by breaking the Code, even before going crazy, but she wasn't wrong in saying that she had the right to be protected as a queen with her young kits) and did it only for personal reasons, he wasn't even being objective and yes, grief can make you act in the wrong and blind your mind (he lost his son thanks to Appledusk in the accident), but just like Mapleshade being unstable doesn't make murder for revenge a "morally good thing" (may the "victim" deserve it or not, in real life I've seen a few cases where it would be a fine way to protect possible victims of real monsters), grieving doesn't excuse breaking your own law and putting in danger literal babies for a personal grudge, he should still be punished for his wrongdoings and the classic: "Well, he may have felt bad afterwards..." doesn't stand up, unless it is shown happening on page, it has the same value of a former villain turning randomly good all of sudden and being forgiven by everyone while they tell you the redempion arc happened offscreen if you ask where did the logic go and if they ever aknowledged their crimes and worked to deserve that forgiveness.

[@ahaahbahoo1821]

@@laraendlight9887 YEEEEEES

[@sothisthebeginning]

Maybe a Onestar design showing him soaked to the bone with dark tar-like water, referencing his death, his son Darktail, and the sins and regrets weighing heavy on his back. Perhaps a small flame that's flickering miserably, showing how he spat in the face of his previous friendship with Firestar and went directly against Tallstar's wishes to connect Windclan and Thunderclan. Maybe even some pond grass wrapped tightly around his neck like a noose, or a kittypet collar to represent Smoke.

[@calliesauce]

THANK YOU for drawing Antpelt like an ant!! I love bugs, and the idea of bug-like cats in warriors, and this is just feeding my brain!! He’s design is amazing, I love the details to the mandibles and eyes! Not to mention the six legs!! Super cool!!!

[@Pigeocore]

No problem! I'm also a big fan of bugs, couldn't help myself

[@madmadammelzy]

@@Pigeocore yup! :D

[@indigocrayon8717]

Rainflower 100% honestly. She deserves to suffer godamn it, what with how she treated Crookedstar. For her actual design, I think it'd be cool if you gave her a crooked jaw to match Crookedstar's, kind of like StarClan reminding Rainflower of all the hell she put him through. I'm thinking something to do with maple would probably be cool, too, 'cause I don't think Mapleshade would like knowing this horrible person who abandoned her own kit because he was no longer perfect would've gotten into StarClan. Also, in the version of the books that exists in my head, Mapleshade DID end up adopting Crookedkit because I think it'd be cute.

[@Misha_Katsuki]

True, turn her into the worst piece of monster shit you can draw. She deserves hell for what she did to Crookedstar.

[@PixylMawthz]

I am so sorry to hear about all the stress this project put on you. I'm not a full time artist myself, and the pressure to keep up is absolutely something I struggle with as well. You're not alone here, and I'm so glad that you were able to get a break and finish it on your own terms. As for the designs themselves, Antpelt is probably my favorite (I have a bias), but the others are so creepy and cool! I love how unsettling Eggfrost is, and the bird form for him is just so perfect to summarize his insecurities. Thistleclaws design went super hard with the shading and concept, his neck being twisted and being literally CHOKENPD by anger is such a good touch! Really excited to see what you do for the starclan video! I'm not super up to date with the lore, but maybe Oakstar and Ravenwing? I have a headcanon that they condemned Freckle to the dark forest, sort of closing the door behind themselves after getting in as a way to cover up that they ordered for the exile of Maple's kits!

[@wolfwonder5552]

For your corrupted Starclan cats Mudclaw could be an interesting one, along side cats like Rainflower, Clear Sky or Skystar and perhaps Leafpool or Yellowfang for having broken the medicine cat rule of no kits. I simply mention the last two because of how Starclan reacted to Leafpool when she joined Starclan all because of breaking that rule and lying about despite them basically telling her and squilf too lol. Also amazing art and good on you for taking a break! Take care!

[@ChoccoGlx]

*ahem* Yellowfang? Leafpool? Uhm, notice how they were both o u t. o f. t h e y ‘ r e. c o n t r o l.

[@Sparkle8205]

Yeah no definitely not Leafpool or Yellowfang Corrupted cats like Foxheart, Oakstar or the other cats you mentioned (clear sky is Skystar) heck, I’d love to see one of Tigerheart

[@3L_3L_3L]

Wasn't there a foxleap is SC\Shadowclan during YELLOWFANGS SECRET? well if it was foxleap or whatever you should do her!

[@Sparkle8205]

@@3L_3L_3L foxheart was her name

[@3L_3L_3L]

@@Sparkle8205 I thought that foxheart was in thunderclan?

[@scaredstiff7176]

Thank you for acknowledging how important it is to take breaks and making that little psa on the importance of hiatuses. A lot of people dehumanize content creators and somehow think they are capable of making things at unnatural speeds. The benefit of your break is that your design ended up a lot better in the end when you were well rested and fully charged creatively. Your hawkfrost design is amazing. You could also interpret his design as him being killed off prematurely, never becoming a true tyrant like his father was, the leader seat being forever out of his reach. I hope you make more of these when you find the inspiration. They are so cool.

[@riverswitness6293]

here are a few cats that i, personally, don't think deserve starclan: 1. rainflower. abusive and ableist mother that did nothing but neglect one child and praise the other. such a classic and textbook narcissist that it's frustrating. surprisingly a decently written character and, for that, i want her to get bounced out of starclan. design wise, i think she would be kinda like the mapleshade design with how covered up she is. hiding all of her worse natures under pretty flowers that draw attention away. 2. raggedstar. probably not somebody that the fandom would immediately agree with, but there are plenty of reasons for why he sucks. he was obsessed with being a clan cat in spite of his kittypet blood and went as far as to murder his own father, hal, after figuring out his identity. that's against the warrior code, but whatever. he then disavows his younger sister, russetpaw/fur, after she's obviously upset about her father's death. not only that, but he's not a great partner in his romance either. after stringing foxheart along, he says that he doesn't even care for her and this isn't even mentioning how be belittled and made fun of yellowfang for being interested in herbs and medicine. probably the worst thing was his constant enabling of brokenpaw and his parenting with a "my baby could do no wrong" attitude. not sure what i would do for a design, but probably something about stained red paws from the death of his father. 3. hawkheart. depending on what side of the hawkheart/moonflower debate you fall on, you might already agree. once a warrior, hawkheart should be relatively familiar with how battles work and all of those important dos and don'ts. he should know that, even if an enemy warrior is going after the medicine stock, that you shouldn't murder them. feels like a pretty simple thing not to do. however, he didn't do that and that feels like a failing as a medicine cat. made all the worse because he probably knows all of the best places to attack to get the best results and to kill the quickest. for a design, i would probably do something like an open chest/ribs situation and a bunch of herbs growing out of him, like he's hidden and forever protecting his herbs in the afterlife. 4. mudclaw. i love this stinky little guy, but to the dark forest he goes. i don't think it's too hard to see that his coup would and should have definitely gotten him a place in the dark forest. design wise, something to do with the tree that killed him. maybe a more flattened body or branches growing out of him. something that still connects him to that tree. 5. curlfeather. i think it's a bit premature of me to say this, but she'll probably be in starclan when she should really deserve the dark forest. like mudclaw, she's staging a coup to take care of riverclan (presumably) and caused the death of at least one cat so far, that being reedwhisker. however, that's not just enough to make her seem dark forest worthy. i also think that her manipulation and grooming of her own daughter, frostpaw, is disgusting and horrible. whether it was done out of love or not, she damaged her daughter's life and made it so frostpaw will never be the same after that. a cool design would be full of those curled feathers that were used to seem like a starclan dream. i could see them shedding off of her with each movement while somewhere, probably on her face, would be that dock leaf she cut into a star. here are a few that i think could be in the dark forest, but i don't care either way: 1. onestar. just onestar. having a mate outside of the clan would probably make plenty of starclan cats pearl clutch. but he was also just a menace in general with the amount of pointless battles he forced thudnerclan into. no idea what for a design though. 2. hollyleaf. probably an unpopular opinion, but i'd love to see her get some consequences. she killed somebody and tried to murder her own mother. cats have been sent to the dark forest for less. obviously her design would have to revolve around holly berries and death berries, possibly a few death berries among her holly. 3. graystripe. how much codebreaking can one guy do? never been a fan of graystripe and it's really laughable to see him constantly code breaking, only to get praise for it. i would not be mad if he was in the dark forest and i'm not horribly mad if he stays out of it. just a weird double standard that could be cool to deal with. 4. lionblaze. i know that he's not dead yet, but felt like the right place to put this. if he dies, i wouldn't mind seeing him in the dark forest. i don't think they will, but this man has killed so many cats that it does feel a little bit too much like a double standard for him to remain in starclan. 5. oakstar. have no read the book/s he's in, so don't particularly care. however, i see him come up a lot as somebody who should be there. i'm neutral on this. 6. goosefeather. so many wrong decisions, so many deaths caused by his actions. probably will never not be in starclan because he's their little special baby that knows all of their secrets. here are a few cats that i personally don't see, but could agree with: 1. moonflower. continuing the same as above with hawkheart, she did go to destroy the herb storage. could have been very horrible to not have certain medicines, but this hypothetical situation doesn't sit right with me. don't think she would be in the dark forest, but wouldn't be horribly mad if something cool came from it. 2. moth flight. seen a few mentions that her abandoning her kits should get her a sentence in the dark forest. while it's child abuse in a sense, it's not as horrible as some of the other moments of neglect and abuse and it's more of poor writing on the author's parts. 3. oakheart. definitely could count his secret relationship and half clan kits as a reason for the dark forest. personally wouldn't count it, but if a good enough argument could be made, i'd probably agree. 4. bramblestar. aside from all of the toxicity of his relationships, i could see a very interesting story with him going to the dark forest. maybe something like ashfur's control on his body corrupted his soul or just all of his wrong decisions through life have caught up to him. i could even see that killing hawkfrost, even though he was evil, still was a horrible thing to do. a two wrongs don't make a right situation. i don't see it happening, but it would be sick. 5. leafpool. could definitely be a rejection from starclan after all and they send her to the dark forest. i don't see it happening, but her cross clan relationship, medicine cat kits, and all of the lying and defying starclan could have made them skill want to kick her out. here are a few joke answers. 1. yellowfang. the amount of times she's lied and harassed living cats since she has been in starclan feels like enough for her to be in the dark forest. 2. berrynose. come on, it's berrynose. the dark forest just seems perfect for him. 3. emberfoot. he deserves it. in all honesty, he's always been a vaguely antagonistic guy, so seeing all of that end up with him undeserving of his place in starclan would be kinda cool.

[@weedbasil]

you should definitely draw appledusk for the cats that dont belong in starclan! awesome video by the way, take all the time you need to produce this wonderful content!

[@pawmeat]

Appledusk definitely belongs in Starclan.

[@STAGISTODAY]

@@pawmeat huh??

[@prcervi]

cut out mapleshade's bias against the guy and there's no reason he shouldn't be there, cause interesting as mapleshade was to read the thoughts of she's also just kinda an idiot on top of the narcissism

[@discountlivpig]

@@prcervi fr

[@prcervi]

@@weedbasil mapleshade still made the choice to go through the river rather then to the bridge that was less then 10 minutes walk away appledusk ain't a good person but mapleshade is just really kinda dumb

[@eebijeebi6885]

I nearly jumped out of my skin when I saw that part two came out. It's everything I could have hoped for! I really hope your future design videos come easier to you, and that you don't push yourself too hard.

[@sunniwithani]

Amazing video, I really liked it! Your hawkfrost design is just horrifying and I actually love the spinning head design for thistleclaw! Looking forward to seeing more of your videos! It would be interesting to see corrupted Yellowfang because she was very biased after joining Starclan and made a lot of bad decisions.

[@Selt666]

Artblock is honestly the worst it feels like someone just threw all your dedication out the window. I honestly you are one of my biggest role-models for my own art.

[@AngieORAngie]

AAAAAAA THANK YOU FOR MAKING A PART TWO! I REALLY APPRECIATE IT! :) Also- for the corrupted starclan cats- you should really do Rainflower Lizardtail Foxheart APPLEDUSK rowanstar- and POSSIBLY ashfur and onestar? Those are just a few but- I feel like those would go pretty well with the concept!

[@JynxedTea]

I liked Thistle a lot. I think him being a "wolf in cat's clothing" is certainly a design choice I thought of when you mentioned Little Red. But I think his 2 faces would fit better onto cats like Hawk or Maple. I'm personally a fan of body contortions and seeing how a cat could break itself to flip over to show their second, more horrifying face would totally scare me half to death lol. I love horror and seeing these were really inspiring to me! I hope to see more like Snowtuft and Redwillow. But please don't push yourself!!

[@BananaSoupOSC]

Redwillow is a tortoiseshell tom :3

[@spinoraptor2189]

Russetfur: Watched Berrykit almost die. Oakstar: Banished Mapleshade and her kits, Mapleshade, fine. But kits? That’s cruel.

[@dogsandcatsrule3856]

Throughout my years of writing stories and making videos I've grown to learn just how difficult and emotionally draining you can get when you push yourself to make more creative content. Your passion for the project withers away before you even realize and you end up just pushing through it for your audience/readers. So please try not to push yourself to much, your happiness and health matter too! More people care about and appreciate havinh you in their lifes then you'll ever truly know! Also you asked for suggestions for characters who shouldn't have gone to starclan for a future project so here are my possible suggestions: Clear Sky, Raggedstar, Rainflower, Appledusk, Onestar, and of course Ashfur (though I'm pretty sure that everyone will have already suggest him XD)

[@bananafire1188]

I'm glad you got this video out. And when you are certainly not held to yt. draw when you FEEL like it, dont let the stress get to you. I'm glad you are feeling better :D. I loved the art of this video! hawkfrost was def my favorite but i loved antpelts design too. keep going strong !!!

[@TeaLeaf9353]

Yessss finally!! Commenting before I watch but I'm hoping Maggottail is here

[@Mx._M_o_t_h]

Yay part two

[@twigbranch4556]

mudCLAW!!! this boi is da best evil man. and I’m sure you could incorporate both him being manipulated by hawkfrost and the fallen tree into his design really well.

[@EaseeCheesee]

I think Appledusk would be really neat! He definitely was a bad person, cruel towards his ex and indifferent to the deaths of his kits. An idea I had for him would be to really lean into the apple part of his name, make him a rotting, putrid creature that has worms burrowing into him. Brownish-white apple flesh beneath his coat that has been bitten into by other dark forest cats in pursuit of satiating their hunger (there is no prey in the dark forest, so the cats would be pretty hungry). I think the rotting apple core image would show how superficial he was, a shiny apple that slowly becomes putrid to show how he cared more for upholding his image as a “loyal” warrior than comforting or caring for the shecat he was previously mated to. As a bonus you could have a big bite taken out of his neck to show where Maple killed him.

[@Kuiper_Starz]

5:27 HOW IS IT STILL SO CUTE

[@Cricketboiii_14]

Frecklewish looking sick, like a rotting body, filled with snakes as guts. That would be terrifying

[@unactivated6594]

Spotted Leaf ... She tell Leaf Pool to be with Crow Feather and then... Make her be that bad she-cat. And she is It haunts Firestar and his kids

[@Dragon_Liege]

I love the idea of the Darl Forest and it's residents appearing normal at first, and in a Coraline style they slowly reveal themselves to be the monsters they truely are.

[@cloverpatches0]

OH my god I love how you incorporated The Path into thistleclaw’s design im going feral

[@duskmuzzlethesassy]

Mabey rainflower, snowtuft, darktail, scourge, silver hawk, and darkstripe. Rainflower could be a wilting, wet rose, thorns thickening out her back as she is chocked by brambles with beady eyes covered by thorns and bramble berries. Snow tuft could be a frozen cat, frail and Kit like, as he is pretty pathetic, and his back showing his bones and ribs, but protected by clear ice in its place. Darktail would have a void tail, and had eyes beady black with a skeleton face, and the body of the cats he killed sprouted out his back like conjoined kits. Scourge would be covered in claws (dogs and cats) and his whole body a void exept ice eyes, sprouting out souls, ghosts of sorts. Silver hawk would be conjoined with bird parts, looking gruesome and ugly, with black eyes that lure young cats. Lastly darkstripe, he would be tiny, like scourge, showing his cowardly nature, and stone paws he would drag around as the weight of stone fur on his back, teeth coming out of his back, his face was smudged, with catfish whiskers. TAKE THEESE IF YOU WANT LOL IF YOUR HAVING MASSIVE ART BLOCK ❤

[@Miscellaeous9209]

The entire idea of Thistleclaw having a wolf maw on the back of his head (or front of his head depending on who's in control which is definitely the wolf most of the time with the cat face/maw acting as a lure, well sort of) reminded me of the japanese urban legend, Futakuchi onna, basically a woman with a second mouth, said mouth demands storage's worth of food to satisfy it, plus it mumbles insults and threats to the woman, so naturally i think it would be a neat touch if the "wolf maw" part of Thistleclaw constantly mumbles spiteful things to antagonize him, or the cat's around him. Just as he antagonized Spottedpaw and Tigerpaw. In some sort of way.

[@nlyalex5874]

I think a few interesting ideas would be Pinestar or Star Flower. Pinestar because he left his clan for the comfortable life of a kittypet and left his mate Leopardfoot, and his only surviving kit who grew up to be Tigerstar. I feel like he would have a lot of guilt weighing him down and I feel like it would be a good idea :) Star Flower definitely because she just seems like a manipulator and even though she earned the early settlers trust and even became mates with Clear Sky she was still the daughter of a terrible cat and tricked many of the characters throughout the Dawn of the Clans books. She would be a very interesting cat to draw!! :)

[@BeanKally]

I just wanna say I ADORE your art! You deserve so much more attention

[@emmett4733]

Just discovered your channel and I love this art series! Antpelt’s design is my favorite of the cats you’ve done like this so far- I think adding some red welts and other irritated skin markings (and maybe a couple of holes with ants crawling out) would really bring it over the top, but it’s terrific as is. I know how hard it is to push through art block and try to meet deadlines, and I commend you for your effort, but I’m glad you seem to have decided to allow yourself a break and to let things come less forcefully. You deserve to have fun doing what was supposed to be a FUN project for you :)

[@arrowvanlanduyt6319]

It's also worth noting that the baby bird idea for Hawkfrost can symbolise how his plans never went anywhere. They were in there infancy when he died and he never got to "hatch" his evil plans.

[@tearfulfish3509]

aaa I literally checked today for the second part and here it is! definitely worth waiting 🖤🖤

[@TubercuIosis]

Ahhh! these are great, perhaps you could draw Hollyleaf as corrupt Starclan cat?

[@GlorytoAllah749]

How i imagine hawkfrost:He would have hawk wings made from ice that he can use to fly with but it is very fragile and would break when it hits anything even a bug.He would have some leeches on his body for Tadpole and would have a moth following him.He would also have some ice on his eyes which make blinking extremely hard for him so his eyes would be bloodshot red but would still be ice blue. Mapleshade:she would have a pregnant stomach,black widow tail (because those spiders are known to kill their mates) a raven following her,her fur is always wet like she had just gotten out of a river (it cant dry) she would have snake eyes (maybe even snake tounge) to remember what she did to Frecklewish And since her fur is always wet she is always very very cold. Tigerstar:He would have his organs out of his stomach and it would burden him as it makes him slow.He would also have very long claws which makes an annoying sound when hes walking and some bones on his eyes which makes it so that tying to blink is painful for him.He also has some bones daggling on his fur and also makes an annoying sounds when hes moving. Brokenstar:He would have one eye daggling out of his eye socket,some deathbereies growing on his fur,and his teeth would be yellow (for Yellowfang) he would have small shadow figures following him and whispering all of the bad things he has done all the time.His fur would be very ragged like Raggedstar and half of his face is a snake's face to remember the fact that he lied about kits's death and puts it on Yellowfang and exciled her from the clan.His eye that is in his eye socket would be bloodshot red because no matter how hard he tries he cant blink (he can only blink twice in a day).Walking would be extremely hard for him because he would have the shadow figures dragging his legs.

[@Max-us9ym]

I like too much that video the warrior cat villain killer, please more video about the Dark forest warrior cats 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@fablerots367]

ooughhh maybe Clearsky/Skystar for the corrupted starclan cats 👀

[@sweetteasippen]

Gosh I love your art! You have the perfect mix of realism and just enough cartoon to get that perfect mix of horrifyingly beautiful ❤❤❤ I really hope we get to see more of these types of videos!!!❤❤❤❤

[@fluffyfloppastudios]

HOLY SHIT, THIS IS EVEN MORE TERRIFYING THAN THE LAST! AMAZING!!! I kinda thought of maybe you’d do a part 2 of corrupted StarClan cats, do Mosskit. Mosskit, Bluestar’s daughter who died before she could even receive an apprentice name, never did anything wrong, but everyone depicts her as a terrifying ghost who haunts her mother’s past for some reason, but it’s a cool idea! Please do her at some point

[@arachnits]

commenting for engagement youre the coolest

[@nuclear_bonsai]

Despite Thistleclaw's design being a bit goofy, I really like it. The design reminds me of the Futakuchi-onna, a woman with a mouth on the back of her head. The story of the yokai goes that she is the wife of a miser and rarely eats and the second mouth appears on the back of her head, making demands and threats for food. You could say that the wolf mouth was birthed from Thistleclaw's insatiable craving for battle and the mouth demands for more battle, more bloodshed. And also the idea of "a wolf in sheep's clothing" Like Thistleclaw lures cats in with his looks and personality, and then eats them with the wolf mouth when they get close.

[@rouille00]

I like your designs, especially Antpelt. I find him kind of cute - am I sane ? Ha ha ! You did well by taking a break. Take care !

[@laraendlight9887]

These are beautiful! My favourites from the two videos are Brokentail and Thistleclaw, the perfect horror that in drawing looks incredible, fascinating like a body-horror movie that disgusts you but keeps your eyes on the screen 'cause you are captured by it. I tried to draw some monster versions too once, for my and my partners OCs and even some original characters: Ashfur for example.... but I fear I put too many things on him (algaes around the paws, burnt skin, open chest, cut throat and half mask of Bramblestar), Frecklewish and Squirrelflight corrupted by trauma and fear for an AU. Let's just say I'm envious, I suck at drawing😂 I'm sure your next video will be just as cool! As a corrupted Starclan member to draw... Ashfur went to the Dark Forest at the end, don't know if it counts but it would be interesting, others could be: Rainflower (psychological abuse and isolation of a son), Oakstar (exiling kits too young to get out is against the "protect kits" rule and he did it for personal reasons, not even for mere justice. He let his grief and anger obscure his judgement and it contributed to what comes next), Appledusk (not only he broke the Code too and lied to two she-cats cheating on basically both, but he showed in pubblic how easy he can turn his back on someone he said he cared for, I honestly have an hard time believing someone who can turn his face so easily is that good inside); Tom (Kate said in her blog he's in "Kittypet Heaven" even after lying, abusing Bumble, causing his mate's death and the lady herself saying he saw his kits as property and could have hurt them as well); Yellowfang (she was a fantastic character, but the more books come out, the more the Erins look like they want to turn her into an asshole. Many cats did wrong, like Bluestar during depression and that surely doesn't excuse the bad decisions, but she was among those who forced Squirrelflight to take the kits by lying about a serious thing and right after put her and Leafpool on trial for doing what they told them; not to mention when she told Jayfeather how the Clans shouldn't collaborate again and how she reacted when he tried to disobey, plus, the Erins can tell what they want about Ashfur "tricking Starclan", right after he dies someone had to let him in and she was the most adamant to pass obsession for love) and Onestar (he did many terrible things, caused one of the most powerful and cruel villain, literally attacked other Clan either because he wanted or 'cause Sol told him so once, then we should really accept that terribly-written special edition of him seeing the ghost of the cat he thought about only to say how glad he was she wasn't a problem anymore... tell him to stop the son that came out thanks to Mr "Oh no, now that everyone knows what will happen to my poor dignity?")... and are Clear Sky, Mudclaw and Raggedstar too mainstream? I'd say Evil!Spottedleaf too, considering her behavior in some scenes and how something like the disgusting influence of a monster at a young age could influence the mind of someone, two of the corrupted/evil!AU versions who really make sense are hers and Squirrelflight's

[@frog1279]

I have a few cats in mind. Ashfur is definitely one that immediately comes to mind for me. I’ve always seen him as a corrupt Starclan cat that roams the forest of the realm. Another one is Appledusk, sure he did some good, but he broke the warrior code. He blamed Mapleshade for their kits drowning and was just awful to her. This one not everyone could see but Nightstar. He faked being leader, lying to his clan, which I see the reasoning behind the sickness the rats brought. Starclan bringing it for Nightpelt going against them even though he wasn’t accepted. Sure he might have been a great leader, but he didn’t live very long and I believe that power was done by Starclan.

[@duskmuzzlethesassy]

Earlier I talked about more of dark forest cats, but here are ideas for starclan cats. I always hated the fact that oak star and apple dusk got into Starclan, pine star and goose feather (hot take) as well. I also have ideas for them. oakstar would be covered in wood and stump legs to root him in the ground with all his mistakes. Apple dusk would be a rotting apple core molding over with the mistake he made as he crossed maple shade… pine star could be similar to oak star, only with Pines sticking all over him, with big eyes all around him as he watches tiger star rule the DarkForest, and when he kills someone, pine star feels the death and earns a neckscar. Goosefeather would be a gruesome scary ball of feathers and a beak where he couldn’t speak and would cough out souls as he tries .

[@Birlaps_stan._.]

i'm so sorry that you had a really bad time drawing for a bit. but i'm really glad that you were able to get it done after some time. please don't let people's wants force you into something that it physically and mentally draining. remember to take breaks. even if you don't feel like you deserve them. its better to finish projects later than break yourself doing them on time. mental health is more important than drawing. make sur to focus on yourself when you need to ❤️

[@electricmilk2631]

Thistle defiantly reminds me of "John Carpenters The Thing" when the husky shows its true form, a disgusting monster with twisted limbs and slimy, almost mucas-y slobber(spit like material?) around the torn flesh, it really reminded me of how scary the dark forest is and how it contorts the mind and body of cats. Truly an amazing artwork! (10/10 fr)

[@Anamizuki]

First of all, I'm glad you were honest with yourself about the stress this project caused you. It is important to take time for yourself. But I love how Hawkfrost's final design is essentially a (more) feral version of a skeksis. Which frankly fits him. He is a manipulator but also someone who was judged by others as bad long before he embraced it. Like the skeksis, Hawkfrost was a reminder of a darkness that was unwanted. So he chose to BE that monster.

[@WitchyStitchesStudios]

Despite all the “flaws” you see in your art, you’re still one of my inspirations as an aspiring artist! I’ve been captivated by your art essentially since video one I saw, and the this video and the last gory one have inspired many pieces by me! You just seem to be such a cool person, and your art is even cooler.

[@reverse_concept]

i love hawkfrost's little detail on his concept art's head of the same "crown"-bone thing that tigerstar has in his design too. really shows that he wanted to be like his father.

[@Idk__001]

YESSS HawkFrost! My favourite cat in Warriors! Exited to see how it turns out :>

[@hnitsua]

I appreciate you calling hawkfrost cute in The thumbnail. It’s like to trick us into thinking he’s trustful

[@maskedspirit3942]

I have an idea about thistle claw: What if his cat face and wolf face were morphed-together? Like one half resembling a cat and another a wolf ? It could portray the idea of his true self being seen from one side and his fake kindess on the other. While the rest of him does resemble his normal self, his face will most definitly reveal his manipulative wolf-in-sheeps-clothing nature.

[@maskedspirit3942]

Just watched more the video and while you aren't gonna use this as it's similar to maple's design I hope it can provide some sort of inspo for another design!

[@shelbcake]

All of your art is so amazing! However, please take a break when you need it! We, your fans, would prefer if you take your time so you don't get sick!

[@yeeyeemothman4408]

I know one is not a starclan cat but I would think it would be fun to do Raggedstar or Frecklewish from Mapleshade's vengeance. Raggedstar was abusive to Yellowfang and killed his own father who was a kittypet, so perhaps something to signify those parts. For Frecklewish, I was thinking on a Medusa type of design since she was technically a victim of Mapleshade. Like having reptilian parts or having a snake as a tail, and have a trait that signifies the fact she was blinded by the snake bite.

[@bsignsstudios]

These designs look like they belong in a horror movie (I mean that in a good way). I was thinking the horror story could've been about this being the result of experimentation.

[@T_O_H_]

✨ogłoszenie parafialne✨

[@saucebandit8319]

I normally can’t smell stuff but today I just did and it was the smell of a very underrated KZbinr

[@cherryberrykomainu8699]

For Starclan corrupted cats, I think making Ashfur have a kits body would be interesting, due to his immaturity in how he refused to accept Squirrelflight’s denial of his love in favour of someone else. Rainflower I could see as an ugly swamp hag, waterlogged and covered with overgrown poison ivy or anything else icky, referencing how she died in a river and punishing her with a ugly form as she treated beauty as such an important thing.

[@f0xxrrr]

Scary, grotesque, and I LOVE it! Keep up the awesome work :D

[@ashleysweetpaw286]

The first video inspired me to monster up my OC antagonists! I did a few but now I want to do more 😅

[@ellieme3286]

Skystar would be Great, with a lock sealing his heart and something showing his relations with mates and kin. Perhaps a whispering contions flying around his head sending his mind racing with possible things.

[@TherianThing]

You know what would have been REALLY COOL , and a little hidden gem,? if you have Antpelt the “zombie fungi” I feel like this could work, beacuse he was taken over and controlled, idk, AMAZING ART ❤❤

[@whispyr_]

it'd be kinda cool to see snowtuft, even though we don't know much about him. i just think the idea of a guy who doesn't even remember why he's in hell kinda fascinating

[@marisoldelossantos5518]

Since Frecklewish was put into the Dark forest, I'd love to see what you can do with her and her instresting death! :D For corrupted Starclan cats, I'd like to see Onestar, Rainflower, Ashfur, or maybe even OakStar!

[@TeaLeaf9353]

Double commenting but THESE WERE SO GOOD!!! My favourite was Antpelt, he looked so creepy and ehe3uejeheh.

[@rat1375]

i would actually really enjoy seeing your take on blackstar! I like him a lot, hes a weird guy with a very odd moral compass, and he caused a lot of bad just as much as he caused good, if there was a "in between" world for warriors, like the purgatory, i'm pretty sure blackstar would be there

[@SchleichHorseLover-yl1ug]

It’s.FINE.no matter how fast you work, we love you!

[@califelli]

i like how you kinda used tiger stars desin in tislclaw its cool

[@Sparkle8205]

I’d love to see other cats like Tigerheart, Oakstar, Skystar/Clear Sky, Star Flower, One Eye, and obvs ashfur be done with this! Oh maybe Snowtuft is not as scary since he was basically redeemable anyways (the Erin’s hate him and killed him offscreen unfortunately ;-;)

[@CeaselessEnemy]

I'm surprised not to have seen darkstripe (unless I missed him, oops.) I mean, I consider him the introduction character to the Dark Forest, since it first appears in the books, from his perspective. He's surprised not to be in Starclan, despite his attachment to Tigerstar, poisoning a child, being cruel to other childen, and trying to murder someone he doesn't like for no reason other than him caring too much about Firestar' origins. There's also quite a bit of material to work with, for him, visually. I feel like there can be a lot of imagery around temptation (Longtail fresh kill story), manipulation (feeding Sorrelkit deathberries as a 'reward'), and obsession (his relationships to Tigerstar AND Firestar.)

[@a_lien]

They look all amazing!! Also I'm sorry to hear this project caused so much stress and I'm glad you realized you needed a break.

[@crowmoth_coast7938]

I absolutely adore your channel pigeon! I would love to see RainFlower and Oakstar in the next video for cats who probably shouldn’t have gone to star clan

[@caitlinsnowfrost8244]

Antpelt is sort of horrifying and cute at the same time? I love him.

[@JewelWildmoon]

Thistleclaw's design reminded me of a reference to this one movie with a girl who had a conjoined twin whose face would stick out of her scalp and control her body (making her move backwards as though walking forward but looks uncanny af) and I honestly love that. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the movie, though 😅

[@Dorgaffe]

Thistleclaw and the wolf aspect of his design concept remind me of a short film about child abuse. I sadly forgot the name of the short itself but it is one that I will never forget. Something about goats and wolves it was.

[@Pigeocore]

I think you're thinking of my little goat!

[@firstnamelastname-h3x]

I loved every design!!! i have a few ideas for more cats to design, like snowtuft, clawface, one eye (dotc) might be good for more dark forest cats. maybe blossomfall would be nice for a bad starclan cat??

[@jelwolf8929]

Aww Pigeon don't force yourself, you deserve to take care of yourself, it's ok

[@Lightheart_1.0]

I loved watching both of your videos! I wanna let you know that no one is forcing you to make a video as quick as possible. Especially since we are humans and we have our own issues, time, situations to deal with as well as you! Taking breaks or taking time on your projects isn’t wrong and you have the right to it! ❤ And since you mentioned about cats that shouldn’t of went to Starclan I have a couple in mind (as of almost finishing writing OMG THERE IS A LOT-) . Clear Sky/Skystar, Oakstar, Raggedstar, Onewhisker/Onestar, Appledusk, Rainflower, Lizardstripe, Ripplestar (from the Field Guide that broke the Truce and attacked the 3 other clans-), Bramblestar (when he dies or maybe like an AU or smth-). And I think this is all I can think of right now. Hope this helps you out! 💕💕💕

[@doublame]

When you said that wolves were sometimes meant to symbolize an abuser,i immediately thought of the "Bruno is Orange" animation with the white and orange cats

[@caitlinsnowfrost8244]

Hawkheart could be a good one for the corrupted StarClan cats. Maybe he'd constantly have blood dripping from his paws to symbolize his killing Moonflower. Perhaps he could have flowers (again, for Moon*flower*) growing out of his chest, leaving his heart exposed as they twist in and out of its chambers.

[@kiko955]

Take as much time as you need whenever you need it!

[@xanxid]

YESSS IVE BEEN WAITING TO SEE A NEW HORROR WACA SPEEDPAINNNTT

[@kasterfox7813]

I know you have many comments like this already but what people are saying really is true. Quality over quantity is what many viewers want. Always feel free to take breaks when you feel like it. Most of us viewers adore you and don't mind waiting.

[@athenarivera4498]

The last one is gonna give me nightmares (probably) unfortunately.... BUT amazing art, I love it good AMAZING job.

[@hollowolfpup9958]

Came here from the Corrupted StarClan Cats video after wanting to watch the previous videos first, and i'm glad to hear you gave yourself a break and took the time you needed! Taking breaks and self care in the face of one's passion projects is hard, I'm a pretty new artist myself, and although I give it as advice a lot, it's way harder to take! Please take care of yourself. I'm really loving these designs, and I'm excited to see more of your work in the future, but please, have it be at your own pace!

[@Crookuta]

Your experience serves as a very important reminder to all concept designers, and we are very appreciative of your advice. Letting yourself rest can help ideas reach their fullest potential. By allowing yourself to recover from distress, you’ve managed to create these fascinating designs. Awesome work! One StarClan cat that I feel definitely doesn’t deserve praise is Rainflower. She regarded her son, Crookedkit, with the utmost emotional cruelty. She contributed very little to his achievement as a warrior and is owed no thanks for her son’s rise to leadership. It’s even implied that she refused to grant Crookedstar one of his nine lives in StarClan, showing how bitter she remained even after her death. As for her corrupted StarClan design, I can somewhat envision her has having willow tree-like attributes. Or perhaps her appearance could even take after a cuckoo bird; if you think about it, she ditched her son, let him down, only to be brought up at the hands of another “mother,” Mapleshade. Further, cuckoo chicks are known to be very competitive and hostile against their adoptive siblings; this could allude to how Rainflower afflicted her children with favoritism.

[@pinky0558]

I’d love to see Darkstripe He’s my favorite character But for a corrupted StarClan cat; Rainflower might be a good idea

[@s0r3p4ws]

These videos gave me an au idea where all Dark Forest cats become monsters and StarClan cats become biblically accurate angel things

[@Call_me_Bandit]

I am so proud of you for taking care of yourself!

[@otterrama9718]

AntPelt is my favorite character! You did an amazing job at making him horrifying lol

[@xXKaeptnXx]

I would like to see Yellowfang. As I think she be a good corrupted Starclan cat and yeah if she would haven't broke the one rule with there wouldn't be brokenstar and the chaos he did.

[@phantomstarss]

God I love both antpelt's and hawkfrost's designs so much! I can't decide which one I like better lol. And I really like the concept for thistleClaw's design, but I agree it needs some work. And hey, take as long as you need! Burnout is one son-of-a-bitch. I know from personal experience how it feels. Rather than ashfur, I can't really think of any other Starclan off the top of my head, maybe appledusk? But, eh, from what I remember appledusk was more of a asshole than evil. Unless their a character like bluestar, yellowfang, or spottedleaf, they just kinda become null and void, y'know. Maybe you could do something with frecklewish? (that's her name right-? It's been so long since I've read mapleshade's vengeance) it wouldn't be quite the same as evil Starclan cats, but since the author's wrongly but her in the dark forest, I feel like it would be interesting if the dark forest was slowly corrupting her Starclan form. Idk tho, just food for thought. Keep up the good work!

[@ThornedFable]

Yo these are so good! The thistleclaw design kinda reminds me of a wolf in sheep’s clothing Dobra musyka : D

[@-Solariz-]

you did great acknowledging that you needed to rest, dont worry about your fans if you have something going on in your life, you have a life like everyone else, dont give into the pressure of youtube and posting, you’re human aswell and if everyone pressures you, you dont deserve them, you dealed with it great and i do hope you will get a well deserved rest after making this video

[@pawmeat]

THIS IS WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR! keep up the awesome work! you inspired me to draw gorey dark forest cats and im all for it

[@pawmeat]

also i have a little idea for darkstripe! since he was basically tigerstar’s parasite, i would draw him as a puppet (represents him being tigerstar’s puppet) and with a tight kittypet collar that chokes him, representing his hatred and defeat from firestar.