More For Less!? Minisforum UM773 Lite Mini PC Review

[@adriengallet1831]

Thanks for the review, AMD's new CPU naming convention is confusing indeed! I purchased the Beelink SER6 Pro 7735HS (prebuilt 500GB / 32GB), mainly with help of your review of the Beelink SER6 Pro 6800H model (the CPUs are almost identical from my research), but then Minisforum announced this model a week later, so was curious to see how this one performed. Been really happy with my SER6 Pro, even more so that I got it before they increased the price (by a good £140 GBP). Keep up the great work, you're helping thousands (hopefully one day millions!) of people like me making the right choice for these mini-PC purchases =)

[@injurera]

Thanks for bringing up the overheat issue! Hope minisforum will finally take a note and fix the flaw.

[@Bajicoy]

Thanks for the review and great to learn thermal throttling is still an issue! Yeah, I wish AMD could keep a consistent naming scheme for more than 2 generations.

[@MrPir84free]

Sounds like drilling a bunch of holes in the bottom of the plastic cover is what it could benefit from. Someone could make a killing with a custom cover that gives the needed extra ventilation With the stand, I'd mount it in the stand or vertical anyways.

[@bulldogboy100]

Surely using the same case as previous models must contribute to keeping the cost down because of not spending money on tooling

[@Robtech]

Yep, and now they have the cooling problem from it that hasn't been solved twice in a row.

[@bulldogboy100]

@@Robtech Looks like they listened to you on the new B550 Pro model

[@munocat]

I had a 690, It would randomly crash, I ended up sending it back to amazon and got the Beelink gtr6, I still recommend the amd ryzen 6900 for gaming, because the integrated GPU runs at 2400Mhz, in comparison to 2200Mhz on 7735hs.

[@MohammadDoesIRL]

GREAT REVIEW as always man! Just so you know, the NPB7 just released from Minisforum which uses the Intel 13700H CPU, and it would be nice if you could review it! It looks very nice and sleek and comes with 5200mhz DDR5 Ram!

[@scottsimms1928]

I'd also be very interested to see a NPB7 review ... for those of us looking for a mini PC that can tackle heavy CPU workloads

[@synoykkassey1277]

Me too. Please include dota 2 game benchmark. 🎉

[@semuaorgtau]

Wow, this is the most detail comparison for small pc form factor. Thanks bro for info and benchmark data. I subscribe your channel for more video. Keep it up 👍

[@PRDGMHF]

Nice to see an honest review, instead of an Every Thing is Awesome paid promotion like from some other "reviewers", or should I say promoters. I was wondering if you have any idea when the 7040 series with RDNA 3 might be coming to minis? I'm guessing since it's only now just being released on laptops then it'll probably be another 6 months till it's in minis. But you're the pro so your guess is better than mine!😉

[@Robtech]

The CPU is supposed to be available this month, I'd expect Q3 at the earliest unless we're in for an early surprise.

[@NyneIX9]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks 😊

[@jabonorte]

Can't speak for the Minisforum, but I own a 7735HS Beelink and very impressed with its performance. A lot of PC in a very small case.

[@talvisota327]

what about the noise under load?

[@shadowtheimpure]

I ordered a 32GB/1TB model shipped for $600 to play around with. It's a great price for the performance.

[@AdjointGaming]

Does it still have issues with performance and heat ?

[@Cergorach]

When your mini is drawing almost a 100W, I see no way to cool that effectively in such a small formfactor without a lot of noise. I see that as a problem of current mini manufacturers not choosing the AMD U series for their minis. I am curious if ASUS will also put their custom AMD APU for their Ally handheld in their next generation minis...

[@chippysadventures]

Still waiting for one that has 780m igpu

[@joycephilippe9947]

You and me both brother

[@paulking4908]

Because of poor ventilation the case is a hot box allowing the RAM to overheat.

[@bco1981]

Maybe just remove the bottom and put some screws in the standoffs will help ventilate the bottom better.

[@synoykkassey1277]

Thank you for the very detailed review. I saw a GMK brand with the same CPU a bit cheaper like 368usd barebone. I hope you inlcude dota 2 on your next mini pc review as im looking very badly for a good mini pc.

[@JoaoPinto-1983]

The iGPU of this device is better then the GTX1650 GDDR5 from laptops?

[@waltermcphee3787]

i think the Beelink has vents on 2 sides and the minisforum has vents on 4 sides, should make a difference to cooling.

[@DW-xt6nt]

Good review, really best wait for true Zen 4 7040 780 iGPU or with eGPU 16 core 7945HX, this one just a Zen 3 mild refresh.

[@Hostilenemy]

Has anyone actually disassembled the heatsink on these (UM690, etc) Mini PCs to see if they're using Liquid Metal or not?

[@farmur9680]

Yes, UM690 has indeed liquid metal in it, so does the UM773.

[@DIAMANTENEGRO-db8dh]

serviría dejarlo sin la tapa para que no se caliente tanto?

[@zakdrek-dimension5379]

What is overheating is the ram it gets really hot and the mini pc start to throttle down I try with diff ent rams already and same issue my only fix was opening the case and putting a fan Were the ram is. That fix the issue from 80+ degrees to no more than 60 from the point on the performance is stable I connect the fan to in external cable but I see 3 pins in the motherboard i have been trying to figure out if that is for a fan do you have any idea about It?

[@murdock94]

Seriously thinking about buying one of these and just leaving the top off so it can breath.

[@waelberraies7027]

great review as you test both gaming and emulation in the same video. speaking of emulation can you please include dragon quest 8 on citra or pcsx2 because that game is so difficult to emulate and it can be a good benchmark for ps2 or 3ds emulation on these mini pcs

[@willyko]

Thanks for your review, it just make me happy again on my purchase decision of this mini pc. I would like to have your advice on whether I can directly upgrade this mini pc's cpu with the newer and more powerful Ryzen 7-7840hs without other modifications, thanks !!

[@yostevedotcom]

How is the computer

[@eliezerortizlevante1122]

I got my barebones. All UM773 comes with RZ608 WiFi 6E cards (Supports 6Ghz bands) (Mentioned on this video)

[@AcousticTelevisions]

I'm looking into getting the sakura edition of this (I live in Tokyo rn) but I'm a complete newb for mini PCs When it arrives I have to add things myself? Those components, ram and storage, do they come with the machine? And do I have to separately buy Windows etc? Basically, how much does the user have to do once the machine arrives before playing. Is it not like regular laptops with evertthing ready to go? Apologies if this is a silly question, I'm trying to learn.

[@Robtech]

If you buy it with memory and storage it comes with Windows 11 Pro and is ready to go, like a laptop. So for you, the basic option would be 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD. Or if you want more memory and storage you can select those.

[@AcousticTelevisions]

@@Robtech thank you so much for replying! If I can be cheeky and ask a other question: can this play triple A games, like Hogwarts Legacy? Or do you recommend something like HX99G? Which was recommended to me as another option. I don't need perfection and max spec settings, but playable and enjoyable

[@Robtech]

I haven't tried that title, but you can search up the game title with Radeon 680M graphics to see how it performs. There should be some videos.

[@AcousticTelevisions]

@@Robtech oh good idea! Thank you!!!

[@Caution40404]

Is heat still an issue if not gaming? Just watching 1440p KZbin content and doing some basic stuff.

[@Robtech]

No, should be okay

[@Zwitefli]

Thanks for this excellent review ! I'm interested in buying this mini-Pc (after the EQ12 with a N100 wich is a very good 24/7 Plex Server ;-) ). Do the thermal problems appear only during games or are there present during a video conversion with Handbrake for example ? I would use it for working, a very little gaming and video encoding. I was looking also for the Beelink SER6, but there are no barebone, less ports and no 2.5Gbps, and I already have the SSD Nvme and 2,5" SSD... Or an Intel I7 1360P Nuc ?

[@Robtech]

I only noticed it when both CPU and GPU were stressed. Just CPU (like handbrake) was okay. Could be just the RAM overheating.

[@Zwitefli]

@@Robtech Thanks a lot for your answer ! If it's only when the CPU and GPU are stressed together, it will be very rare for me I think ;-)

[@dave_r]

I've been looking forward to this review, but I'm not sure why (other than liking Rob's reviews) as it sure feels like the 7735HS is a marketing gimmick, and it's just not that different (and in some ways it looks like a slight downgrade from the 6900), and they make no effort (oops, I forget the heat sink attached to plastic) to cool anything but the CPU. To be fair, they have finally learned to glue the damned silicone thingie to the metal stand. I keep hoping that for other than the very low end mini's that more of those little 40mm fans in the SSD/RAM space will appear.

[@user-og8sl3yj9o]

Hello ,what would you recomend for mostly browsing and office use? also a future upgrade of parts? i thouge about beelink eq12 n100, maybe the n305, also the beelink ser5 max 5500h or the morefine m9 n100? considering low noise ,good cooling and good performance.

[@Robtech]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZmtYaGefMmCobM

[@davidchesser584]

I've had mine for almost 2 weeks and the stand still sucks. The 773 slides off and slides through the stand.

[@JoeStoppinghem]

The pink one would be appropriate for the Barbie movie. 😂 Also maybe test with Gecko Rolling, which is a live-CD OpenSUSE tumbleweed.

[@davefroman4700]

Yo Rob, Have you checked out the new cooling in the UM 790 Pro?

[@Robtech]

No, not buying any minis for the foreseeable future as ad revenue has plummeted on KZbin recently.

[@Osirus37]

Due to the idiotic design of no vents on the RAM / SSD compartment, I just remove the bottom cover and keep it off.

[@akin242002]

Great video! Intel NUC just can't compete for gaming on a consistent basis. However, I like the Intel NUC easier setup and Office 365 use. Examples: Outlook, Word, Excel, Power BI, and PowerPoint. Gamers should only consider AMD unless they want to sell a kidney to get Nvidia GPU.

[@TheGrizz485]

I got this and I really love it but the performance loss after several minutes of high load is so annoying. Any solution . one moment you're happy @60fps the next it dips to 40-50fps and the only thing you can do is reboot the to get the 60fps. I wonder if this box can be undervolted I think it might help in keeping the performance at high levels much longer.

[@Robtech]

You could try taking the bottom lid off. Should help.

[@TheGrizz485]

@@Robtech it did so is putting the fan on maximum. Both solutions are not good long term

[@Robtech]

Yep, which is why I pointed it out. Twice now when others did not.

[@immortallix]

Ooh boy. Having to remove rubber feet to get inside a machine is a deal breaker for me.

[@ghostdatamedia]

While the Minisforum and Beelink 7735hs PCs have USB4 I think only the Minisforum one supports external hard drives. Can anyone confirm?

[@pseudoki]

I don't see any esata on either, so I don't believe either can do it from that perspective.

[@ortinio]

Why no Geekom pcs were listed in comparisons?

[@Robtech]

I haven't reviewed any apart from the Mini Air 11 which is a budget mini

[@DenisDenis-uh7lc]

What is the best mini pc by your opinion intel nuc 13 fen or beeling ser6 pro

[@Robtech]

It really depends what you're using it for. For gaming at this size, the only option is one with a Ryzen processor that has Radeon 680M or 780M graphics. And for a better gaming experience, something like the Minisforum HX80G or HX99G

[@zid2714]

They should make a mini nas

[@come2me007]

Does the barebone comes with nvme ssd and 2.5" hdd screws?

[@Robtech]

Yep, screws are included.

[@jt3000o]

How long does it usually take to ship I've been waiting for mine for 13 days

[@Robtech]

I pre-ordered months in advance. You'll have to contact them for a shipping date.

[@bludcri]

Could this mini pc acheive over 60fps or is it limited to that? Im pretty sure the igpu inside can do more, so im just wondering

[@Robtech]

For games with less performance requirements sure. Plenty of Esports titles will run at above 100fps.

[@bludcri]

Thanks for giving a reply so quickly! Earned a sub

[@GeordiLaForgery]

Great review this one is toastie thanks

[@SRKDR]

Hi, can you tell me how I can disable the boot logo on my UM 773 Lite?

[@Robtech]

If it's not an option in the BIOS, it's not possible.

[@SRKDR]

Thanks, I couldn't find a way in the BIOS. A pity.

[@eliezerortizlevante1122]

8:48. Dont give me ideas. I have a dremel on me Also theres a 3 Pin on the back of the pc. Hope its for a fan. lemme double check. On multimeter says 5V. I dont have a 5V fan. Has anyone tried?

[@buildwithk]

So the barebones comes with WiFi 6e?

[@Robtech]

Yes

[@maximustitan8171]

The DDR5 got super hot fast when playing games. It can reach 85-90c and the performance will drop

[@Meesaa06]

Agree I have this mini Pc and I m experiencing hot memory issues I found slot 1 was hitting 95c and slot 2 memory was 85

[@andresangulomejia8304]

What could be the lifespan of this mini PC?

[@Robtech]

You mean before it stops working?

[@djashjones]

You going to check out Miniforum Uranus?? 🤣🤣 The B550 Pro looks interesting but it could be a lipstick on a pig!

[@Robtech]

Nah, not buying any units at the moment.

[@saab_9]

Can I run arch linux on i t?

[@eliezerortizlevante1122]

If you have a UM773 dont add heat pads under the heatsink. Makes performance even worse. Also you can add a fan at a cost of a SATA drive if you want to.

[@silentheaven]

Do you have any photos or elaborate more the fan mod? Which model?

[@bigmiket]

Hi. Do you have any info that would support your finding?

[@kusandrzej7973]

GJ👍

[@bakakafka4428]

Minisforum really needs to dump this ugly plastic box. They had a great metal design in the HM80, with much better cooling. This latest gen case is a big step backwards.

[@HuntaKiller91]

$380 is decent but I'd like to see it go down again to $299 before buying 😏

[@Jay_kaying]

Ghouls 'n Ghosts t-shirt!