One benefit to the bright colors: For people in the "wonderful" position of remote IT support, being able to tell a non-techie to press the power button on the "BRIGHT ORANGE THING" is a plus. Particularly when it lives around a bunch of black, silver and white devices, probably surrounded with a rats nest of cables.
@dedvzer Жыл бұрын
Just make sure they don't clear the CMOS 😂 Though I'm sure you can just unplug it (right?)
@ianwalker1182 Жыл бұрын
Presumably a power cycle will restore CMOS to default, probably with a warning and confirm message. I have not changed by settings for many years, and for experimenters it could be usefull.
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@dedvzer you can rip the button from inside with pilers
@IraQNid Жыл бұрын
@@dedvzer Put a small rigid cover over the clear CMOS button that prevents you from pressing it by accident.
@guyot1979 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 👍
@fk319fk Жыл бұрын
My son and daughter each bought one. They are very happy with them, aka they do not bother me about slow computers anymore.
@diotitus11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! I think you literally just sold me on the Windows Mini PC concept. I really love the fact that these Mini PCs can now literally rival full blown traditional tower desktop and that I can turn one into essentially a full on Windows gaming desktop just by connecting it to an eGPU.
@techluvin769111 ай бұрын
Don’t drink the kool-aid. They’re not anywhere as fast as a desktop with dedicated graphics for gaming. That’s just pure BS.
@DumbAss-jm3lv10 ай бұрын
@@techluvin7691add an egpu, and it could basically have the same performance as a tower desktop
@CptDuck4 ай бұрын
@@techluvin7691 But its good enough to do anything better than Laptop and 90% desktop in the world. Just bcuz it can't run all games in MAX settings doesn't mean its useless.
@techluvin76914 ай бұрын
@@CptDuck A total oversell that will only result in customer disappointment. Especially if they want to game.
@jallen1227 Жыл бұрын
Really wish Beelink would provide a barebones option allowing people to buy whatever memory or m.2 / SSD speed or capacity.
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Very much this
@antonnym214 Жыл бұрын
Nice reporting and review. This is a new channel for me and you are already my favorite for hardware. You have a gift for presenting super-interesting stuff. Keep up the good work!
@arachnotron82 Жыл бұрын
that proprietary power connector ruins everything
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Agree. We called that out specifically.
@post-leftluddite Жыл бұрын
Not everything
@ChaBawbe Жыл бұрын
Not really, it's just for power, not a deal breaker
@TweakMDS Жыл бұрын
@@ChaBawbePower bricks fail frequently. Kind of a deal breaker to not be able to replace them once this company moves on to other things.
@NOKIA5593 Жыл бұрын
@@TweakMDS are you saying this from your own experience?
@DR-999 Жыл бұрын
Your analysis is the best out there...your vids are so full of relevant info and well constructed format makes them easy to follow and interesting. Outstanding !! Thank you......
@GadgetyMV Жыл бұрын
Great that you test and show the noise levels.
@chiragshroff610 Жыл бұрын
Perfect Mini PC for the Proxmox Cluster i was thinking but proprietary power connector ruins everything
@carltone Жыл бұрын
You might be able bypass this proprietary connector and add your own. I know it’s a hack but a plausible work around if the original PS or connector fail.
@notreal5311 Жыл бұрын
you can run it off thunderbolt
@agadiyar Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t it also work off the USB-C power delivery port? I think he mentions it around the 13.30 mark
@JeffreyJibson Жыл бұрын
I also think it ruins it. My thought was one or two of these for a home lab would be cool, but that power connection. That kind of ruins having a common supply for multiple systems. mITX boards... That might be cool if you could stack them like a pi cluster.
@codyrap95 Жыл бұрын
Just power it via USB-C if you are not ok with the proprietary connector
@Cryptolorian Жыл бұрын
Add some proper 90mm fans or something and I'm in, those tiny fans are just too risky for me to even give these units a go. They should do a taller version where they have a 120mm fan in-taking air from the bottom which should great for cooling and be super silent!
@TwstedTV Жыл бұрын
For those wondering the price ranges from $1,050 to $1,200 depending on where you buy it.
@ghost-user559 Жыл бұрын
Man that’s pricy. So same price point as the Mac Mini M2 Pro with 4 Thunderbolt 4 ports and 10 GB Ethernet. But obviously more freedom on OS choices with this. Huh.
@chebrubin Жыл бұрын
@@ghost-user559 It is a real industry GPU. Not this underpowered Apple SOC "GPU" cores.
@MyKharli Жыл бұрын
perfectly adequate ones if your not fussed about gaming are a 100
@Penskyc Жыл бұрын
Are you talking USD?!? I have yet to see the gtr7 pro for more than $850 with 32gb/1tb, even less if you go barebones.
@ghost-user559 Жыл бұрын
@@MyKharli I mean definitely cheap mini PCs exist but a computer is more than graphics. Speed of ports, number of ports. CPU speed.
@spx2327 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the thermal pads for the NVMe SSD's, if I am not mistaken, only the SSD controller benefits from cooling to prevent throttling. NAND chips actually perform better with higher temperatures (to a certain degree needless to say).
@deimosian Жыл бұрын
There's not much heatsink so depending on the temperature deltas it's entirely possible it may heat, not cool, the NAND packages. Just like how an idle CPU can get heated by a stressed GPU if they're sharing coolant.
@drdroop2163 Жыл бұрын
They just need to make ITX boards of these systems for us to throw in our own chassis
@@NPzed Minisforum needs to do a better job with publishing BIOS updates before I would consider buying another product from them. Nice device, but good luck finding an updated BIOS.
@kidsythe Жыл бұрын
I'll ziptie it to my desk
@kidsythe Жыл бұрын
@@VeerMaharajthe perfect product. I love you man thank you.
@GowronSaves5 ай бұрын
bro well done you earned my sub, I like people who take their testing seriously.
@andrewharwood7843 Жыл бұрын
Just as a heads up. I have the non pro version and you can use the fingerprint reader as a power button. That way you never risk pressing the clear cmos. Also still wiating on full driver support from AMD. I and many others still having GPU related issues that I am parying will be resolved in software.
@_GarethRossUK Жыл бұрын
how do you enable the fingerprint power button also does it save the scan until windows asks for it and passes it and log you in?
@andrewharwood7843 Жыл бұрын
@@_GarethRossUK It just worked out of the box as a power button when pressed. I haven't used the sensor for it's intended purpose so can't comment on if anything is cached for logon. I'm waiting on full AMD support when I can use a complete clean install to do my full investigation about the viability of these in production.
@_GarethRossUK Жыл бұрын
thanks i had no idea, learning something new every day :D @@andrewharwood7843
@phillyguy8541 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did kind of a comparison with the minisforum um790. I have been trying to decide which of the 2 I want and I think it's clear now that it's the gtr7 pro.
@FrenziedManbeast Жыл бұрын
Great video - these are some handsome looking NUCs! I still struggle to place the Philosophy of Use for these devices. They are extraordinarily expensive, lack pcie connectivity that better priced and maintainable form factors such as mATX offer, and feature proprietary parts making future maintenance almost impossible *when* something goes wrong. To be certain it's a whole lot of compute in a small form factor, but who out there needs this kind of horsepower without onboard pcie connectivity that a standard form factor provides? The SFF (and smaller) devices are probably still best served as ultra-affordable and low-compute solutions for simple end users. Power users seem almost certainly better served doing it themselves in a way that offers better connectivity, similar compute, and standardized parts for better future upgradeability/maintenance.
@WayneReynolds. Жыл бұрын
This is exactly my thought process whenever I see these cool mini pcs .. yes they're small ... But they're basically laptops in the form of a desktop and they come with similar maintenance and upgrade handicaps .. I've had friends obsessed with this tiny pcs and when i explained everything in detail vs an ATX system they've just gone ATX with a reasonably smaller case ... So I guess the appeal is the form factor
@TheBackyardChemist Жыл бұрын
The first use case I can think of is traveling, especially as a mobile workstation. You can plug this into any hotel TV, and this is more powerful CPU/RAM-wise than almost any laptop, and a lot of things that would need a PCI-E slot (10G/25G NICs, capture cards, etc.) can be connected via Thunderbolt/USB4. With two internal PCI-E 4 SSDs you can load it with 16 TB of high speed storage.
@FrenziedManbeast Жыл бұрын
@@TheBackyardChemist Who's actually choosing this over a laptop? Who's living out of hotel rooms needing gobs of compute? If they are in media they have workstation laptops with equivalent specs, as nothing in this mini-PC is out of reach of real mobile workstations. And you need a laptop for actual mobile computer versus dragging around a jackery + monitor + keyboard + mouse + mini PC lol. Regarding high speed USB-connectivity: historically running loads sustained for long periods of time over USB controllers has led to unfortunate early demise of said controllers. However I admittedly do not know how well that conveys to USB 4 controllers, and can't recall seeing anyone report on it. I know the spec allows PCIe tunnelling, but not if the same durability of PCIe bandwidth/cards comes along with that.
@TheBackyardChemist Жыл бұрын
@@FrenziedManbeast I think this will absolutely smoke any laptop under 1500-2000 USD in CPU performance, and is smaller than almost all ITX builds. I can see this as a game console replacement for someone who moves a lot. Maybe truckers, sailors, fuck if I know. Or for people who live in really small apartments in Hong Kong or something.
@FrenziedManbeast Жыл бұрын
@@TheBackyardChemist Right, and the entire point I made is a laptop is a mobile computing solution while this is not. It's definitely more compute per dollar, but without the maintenance, expandability, PCIe connectivity, or upgradeability that a standard form factor uses. Now if that suits a user's niche case then great! But this company has spent untold thousands likely bringing this thing to market, and I don't expect they'll move many units at $800+ a pop considering the market saturation when paired with the extremely niche nature of borderline hedt compute in a 1L format.
@brokeelectrician1463 Жыл бұрын
Bought the GTR7 pro after watching your video on the GTR7. I've have the unit now for about 6 weeks. You should add an edit to this video because unfortunately this mini pc will now run more than 1 monitor without crashing. I've been dealing with customer support since I took delivery of this thing and like you stated it's very bad. All they can tell me is to wait for an update to the amd 680m gpu. I've updated to the latest driver (7-20-23) and it still goes into a reboot cycle everytime I add a second monitor. I love the computer and all that it promises but this has been one of the worst experiences with a new computer I've ever had. Had I known I would be dealing with connectivity issues, a sketchy mega link for a fresh copy of win11 pro and a cpu gpu combo that is so new that some of the features don't work properly I probably would have went with something else. Has anyone else been dealing with this?
@KK7RZK Жыл бұрын
Yep. Me and a friend having the same issue. Using more than one monitor will result on constant crashes and freezes. These things are garbage. Check their own support forums for the real story about these.
@brokeelectrician1463 Жыл бұрын
@@KK7RZK Thanks for the reply. Can you link the support forum here? I feel like this should be talked about on the review. Patrick even points out in the review that it can run up to 4 monitors but as you and I know this thing fails miserably with 2 connected. He loses creditability with me when things like this are a known issue but not mentioned.
@gigabit9823 Жыл бұрын
I got the UM780 Pro and it's the same nightmare. Returning that turd back to Amazon.
@mr.needmoremhz4148 Жыл бұрын
Sorry if this is a very late reply and hope it got solved. I initially encountered it myself. The Reboot cycle (with or without a second monitor) has to do with the power consumption/save setting of the CPU and hardware itself. In BIOS/UEFI, if you disable everything regarding C/P states and power saving/ control settings and the "suspend to RAM" option (this is a security issue anyway), I think I also disabled the ACPI feature entirely. The reboot/freeze issue was solved for me, I had a reboot or freeze 0.5 -2 min into the OS if I even got there, and I received my devices back in early June (btw I use multiple monitors). You can probably tinker with those setting to find out which ones are causing it or get an update UEFI/BIOS, or a replacement from them by now. I haven't really looked into it. This problem isn't or wasn't unique to Beelink and I think (not sure) the hardware or specific component firmware got a small update by now. I'm not a Windows user, so this is on a hardware level and should resolve the issue. But because the OS itself can cause various issues in how it controls hardware or requires certain (obscured) power settings to be enabled to function properly, I'm mentioning it. I'm also not sure how this works for MS Win with hardware security (standard secure boot, etc.) parameters (potentially) enforced. Or if the settings provide (full) compatibility/ functionality with x version of Windows and other software on top of it 😉
@Enigma8750 Жыл бұрын
Really good review. I agree about the proprietary magnetic ZIF power port however the save is that you can power it also with the USB port on the back. I remember when these systems came out and the performance was laughable. Now they are putting performance that most desktops don't have with half the power consumption. Thumbs up STH.
@BillLambert Жыл бұрын
The proprietary power connector is what 100% kills it for me. I like the rest, but that magnetic plug is truly pointless when a plain old DC barrel would have been just fine.
@brayyy5609 Жыл бұрын
Why is that such a big deal to people? The PC is stationed at an area on your desk. Are you constantly unplugging and replugging? I dont understand how this is a deal breaker, as it has nothing to do with performance or power.
@jeevejavari8461 Жыл бұрын
@@brayyy5609I'm guessing people are fussed about the part failing. The reason being that if it fails getting a new power adapter will be a pain. Or maybe beelink goes under and there's no alternatives for another part. I get the concern but Personally it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. If I'm not mistaken the device also supports USB c power delivery
@HappyQuailsLCАй бұрын
yes but as I understand it, it supports usb power delivery, not supply
@jollojakar8995 Жыл бұрын
UM790 Pro has liquid metal and good cooling. Easy to close any performance gap with a bit of O/C. I would be more swayed by the power connector. Either way, very similar products, can't go wrong.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul Жыл бұрын
Liquid metal is not something I want in my PC for sure.
@tonycheung1559 Жыл бұрын
They still not fixed the bottom? There is a fan but no holes to exhaust the air.
@jakobw135 Жыл бұрын
How does the b-link pro 7 compare to a similar mini PC with the Intel i7 chip? Does the b-link come with a i7 as a possible choice?
@akin242002 Жыл бұрын
The Ryzen 7 7840HS is nearly identical performance to Intel i7 13700H on a single & multi-core basis. The big difference is in the energy efficiency on your electric bill and the iGPU, which heavily favors Ryzen 7 7840HS. The electric bill issue is a big problem in Europe and some small towns in the USA. Otherwise, not an issue.
@ewenchan1239 Жыл бұрын
I run a Beelink GTR5 5900HX for my TV as well and that thing is absolutely SMOKING fast. In fact, there is so much excess processing capacity, that I have started to get the system to take on some of the virtualisation duties as well by running a backup Plex Media Server (in case my main server is too busy doing other stuff), as well as hosting our own, local, Minecraft server. I LOVE the Beelink systems. They're cheaper than the Morefine mini PCs, and they are more performant than the Minisforum mini PCs. Great job, Beelink! (Good to know that USB 4 power delivery works though, so that way, we don't HAVE to use the proprietary AC adapter.)
@danielgriffith89119 ай бұрын
keep your eye on Minisforum.. some have Occulink now
@Billblom Жыл бұрын
I looked at the reviews of the Minisforum and Beelink.. Both are impressive, but that CMOS clear button and pain in reassembly are great reasons for avoiding the Beelink. Performance on the Minissforum is well beyond decent. I have not managed to get any noise audible from 4 feet away. The power adapter is somewhat problematic since getting parts out of the far east if the adapter fails is a serious problem.. I *really* like the beelink pro's dual ethernet ports.. If they put the cmos reset on the back and recessed I would be happy with either box. Mine is on and powered up for up to 14 hours a day, and never gets hot...
@BoraHorzaGobuchul Жыл бұрын
Wonder if: - one can easily reversibly disconnect the clear CMOS button from the mobo - install ssds with heatsinks - will they even fit?
@geekinasuit8333 Жыл бұрын
I know these are listed as "gaming" boxes, but for me it would be really nice if there was a company making these with IPMI so they can be run headless and remotely controlled, and also it would be fantastic if the chassis was design so that a dust filter can be affixed. I use a minipc (it's not beelink) for controlling dual fibre lines in my home/office/lab, it works really well (5 eth ports, 64Gb ram + 2TB store). I run several dozen lxc containers on it controlling various things such as redundant DNS, email for notifications, and much more. As for Beelink, one issue I have with their products is there's seemingly no option to max out RAM and storage when placing an order, the option is not even available for the "pro" version, too bad and I don;t get why since we're talking about only a few $ for saving a lot of hassles upgrading.
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
I agree, that is why I mentioned they need a barebones. The IPMI is a bit tougher because it adds another 4-5W of power consumption with an ASPEED AST2600 and all of the other components.
@geekinasuit8333 Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I'll happily pay more for the extra features, but maybe there's not enough of a market to make it worth while. I'm wondering if there are separate mini remote control boxes that you can buy that will do remote KVM and power cycles? I suppose if an extra box is needed, an ASRock server mobo and chassis is the better option unless space is very tight. Anyway, I like the work you are doing it's always informative and much appreciated.
@phoneaccount6907 Жыл бұрын
Why do you need all of these, kid? Are you making $ from it, or just waste your time ...
@geekinasuit8333 Жыл бұрын
I own a business, I use these devices for development purposes, and running live services. I rent several cloud servers to run SaaS services for customers, the home based servers and mini's are for developmentand use, and also for my general networking and computing needs. I have a full blown server at home with IPMI, but it's not for development use and is expected to always be stable and working. For development, I need remote access when something goes wrong and I have to reset while away. I could buy another server with IPMI, howerver space is limited, the mini's are great space savers, cost less, make less noise, less heat, and get the job done. I bought a wifi power switch to hard reset each development mini, it works OK, except not as good as IPMI for diagosing issues remotely or adjusting bios settings Everyone has their own unique reasons why they buy these products. I use one mini when away for extended time, it's better for my needs than a laptop, although I also have a laptop, it depends on the situation which device I'll use.
@hernan5253 Жыл бұрын
Any comments on customer support, both for Beelink and Minisforum?
@PeterLawton5 ай бұрын
On the power connector, there are two opposing use cases. A mini PC that loses power then loses unsaved work. A laptop that loses power then runs on battery, without losing unsaved work. So easy breakaway is a plus for laptops, but a reluctant disconnect on a mini PC is a plus (it's still easy with the magnet, but an accidental lateral tug is protected).
@hillcrestvideoprod1 Жыл бұрын
I am trying to put an inexpensive/effective computer to run OBS live streaming for a history museum…any thoughts? Also could use the same inexpensive unit to run scanners and Photoshop for image repairs. What are the drawbacks of using these units for these purposes? I use computers, but don’t fully understand the workings to be honest.
@ericjarvie Жыл бұрын
Hey you do make an good point about the CMOS button in being so close to the power button that you may unintentionally strike that and catastrophically clear the system of memory instead of powering ON and yes thats possible if you use it everyday... but consider this?...When powering ON the machine is OFF and recieving no power supply therefore striking the CMOS before the power button will not clear the system...Also if you shut down with the start menu then again the machine is OFF and without power so again not possible to utilise the CMOS function...Sure the button's close and you could get confused but most times you operate around this area the machine should be turned OFF aswell powered down...Just thought i'd point that out..!!
@ericjarvie Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for likes but just want to point out that the GTR Pro magnetic charge cable may not be so "properity" as you think as ive only recently adopted magnetic charging cables after purchasing an torch with magnetic charging...It occoured to me that if ever the cable got lost i would be without charging capability so purchased an spare replacement item...I noted the charge cable had an identifying part number "Mag 2" after using the cable and being happy with the performance of precise and snap fit and more importantly no electrical arcing or sparking when connecting i decided to purchase an well known and advertised brand of an Magnetic charging cable system that comes with attachments for use with USB C Micro USB and Lightning charging ports...I also noted other brands use the same system and share the same specifications and fit so quickly came to the conclusion that perhaps an standard of fitments has been "somewhat" adopted with these myriad of magnetic charging cable connectors IE Mag1 Mag2 and who knows given the size and voltage for the GTR perhaps thats rated as Mag3 or 4 maybe even Mag5...My point is since they are getting popular and prevent electric arcing and sparks they are incredibly safe and an standard of fitment for industries adoption would make sense since the product is so darn safe!!...Dont get me wrong i had initially thought them gimmickey but see the advantage of magnetic charging now and the fact theres no bright blue spark to start fires or initiate an explosion on connection and believe that those cables and fitments may become far more widely available in the years to come..i personally think they are good and obviously very safe... We shall have to wait and see but dont say i didnt tell that fitments of Mag2 Mag3 4 and 5 may be all convienantly found on all the retailers shelves and whats more very soon...They are very safe very safe indeed...!!
@gherbent Жыл бұрын
Out of all mini PCs I recommend the Beelink brand to my friends as I find their build quality way above others. Sturdy, reliable, well engineered.
@TrusteftTech Жыл бұрын
That orange one is so beautiful! I kid you not if I had money I would order one right now. Or two.
@blackterminal Жыл бұрын
I am using a Intel Nuc that used to be used for business transactions in my Fathers hotel now it lives a new life as a tv pc. Thanks Dad. Its a handy form factor.
@lucimon97 Жыл бұрын
9:10 the nand chips don't particularly need cooling, its mostly the controller
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Totally true, but if you add/ replace a drive then the controller may be in a different spot
@JMartinni Жыл бұрын
The SSD cooling solution is fine. The controller is what heats up and needs cooling the most. This way there's also no chance to trap heat and transfer it from the controller to the NAND chips.
@BLASTIC0 Жыл бұрын
alright, im a little confused. I though I understood that "routers" suck, because they are 3 devices all in one, a router, hub & access point and its better for them to be 3 separate devices? what am i missing/misunderstanding here?... cuz it seems many of thee things have more than 2 ethernets (one for in and 1 for out on a router) and are meant to be hubs also?
@keeperofthegood Жыл бұрын
I like simple SBC systems for their simplicity of application :) When it comes to "mini" PC's I like their potential to fill a need, but don't know how maintainable they may be (what do you do in 18 months when the magic smoke comes out of the power brick, will they still have these, will third party offer them, will you be resorting to a power drill a barrel connector and crafty modification). But then, the need would include disaster recovery, students in dorms, field research stations which would not be real long term uses. Dunno, will discuss this with my daughter, she is looking for a small system right now and this does appear better than the competition.
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
If the PSU dies just cut the existing cord so you can reuse the same connector and solder the cables (either to a female barrel connector or directly to a new laptop PSU with similar specs, 19-ish V and 6A).
@zxcvb_bvcxz Жыл бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 "just" asking people to solder things is a pretty high bar
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@zxcvb_bvcxz Context: I'm answering someone that proposed power drilling the case and doing internal solder work to install a barrel plug, so he is capable of basic soldering. For people that can't solder there are also perfectly good non-solder connectors like Wago (lever nuts) or twist nuts, and also terminal blocks. They are all available anywhere and cost a few bucks
@Alpha8713 Жыл бұрын
@@zxcvb_bvcxz Electrical tape and/or wire nuts would work well enough. Just need to get the polarity right.
@BeardedGeezer Жыл бұрын
I ordered one to use as a home theater PC for one reason: it outputs 5.1 surround through the HDMI jacks. The minisforum unit only allows for stereo through HDMI.
@g.s.3389 Жыл бұрын
in your website it would be useful to have a table wih all he minipc you have tested and all he virtualization systems that work or not, like esxi, proxmox... so to chose the best one. I am trying to find a minipc that is esxi 8 compatible on which I would like to put on allt the apps that now are on my 3 raspberry and more in the future. I already have a big server with esxi but i do not keep always on because the consumption and noise is quite high I use it for testing and AI. thx.
@fk_tech Жыл бұрын
connector gets loose when moving the device or lifting it up while it is own. The magnet stays attached but power is dropped causing it to power down.
@sergeikulikov4412 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see main cooling system
@thebrownlizard39889 ай бұрын
amazing review !!!! btw i randomly found someone using ur video and put music on it and a logo to hide it ,
@MrSERIOUS9 Жыл бұрын
I am building LAN networks to provide connectivity and content to rural schools where the internet is not available. To date, I have been using a Raspberry Pi, together with a Cambium access point and a 6TB HDD to build my server. Could the GTR7 Pro be the most powerful option out there to deploy a big mesh network, avoid bottlenecks, and allow a larger number of simultaneous users to connect to my LAN? My plan is to provide Wi-Fi connectivity to multiple classrooms, the exterior of the school, and the health center that is 50m down the block, while allowing more than approx. 500 users to connect simultaneously.
@richardnoble7170 Жыл бұрын
are there drivers for MS Server 2023? I use the beelink gr5 as a portable server for trade shows.
@TehFreek Жыл бұрын
I just *cannot* take seriously any mini-system that has an exposed "Clear CMOS" button. I don't care if there are workarounds for powering on the system, one day someone *is* going to unnecessarily press that button, either accidentally or deliberately.
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with this
@MartinVonReichenberg Жыл бұрын
Doesn't need to be held in order to activate?
@WilliamOwyong Жыл бұрын
I think I'd be disabling/disconnecting that button straight away if I got one... Especially if it becomes a PC for the kids
@daveme3582 Жыл бұрын
Same thing I thought when first seeing such a silly feature on something not marketed to a lab or the sort @@WilliamOwyong
@ahilker1 Жыл бұрын
Although a dumb design, I don't think anyone here commenting about the rubber "clear cmos" button knows how easy it is to remove (it just pops right out). Then the micro switch has to be actuated like we're all used to - by inserting an implement of some sort.
@mikebal77778 ай бұрын
I just wish external GPU enclosures would get standardized so I could run one of these as my main PC
@havoc_64 Жыл бұрын
Would you consider this for a small Server to host some vm's?
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
I would, but I might go with a step down in CPUs. But we ran this for a few months in Austin for that before moving to Scottsdale
@havoc_64 Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks Man! Love the channel and your videos!
@nielsdebakker3283 Жыл бұрын
The um790pro with memory cooling and better heat pads for the nvme drives get my vote. Ideal would be a mix, chassis(ports) gtr pro, wifi and memory/drive cooling um790pro. And of course a normal feed plug.
@_GarethRossUK Жыл бұрын
the new baseplate with cooling vents drop memory and ssd temps by 14*c
@genus.family Жыл бұрын
Will it throw the Green Screen of Death?
@brianfoster7064 Жыл бұрын
The propriety power supply isn't a problem. They provide instructions on how to set up the USB-C as power input on the site... If you want to use USB4 port(PD3.0 100W) for power supply, please set the TDP to 54W in your BIOS settings and use a PD charger which supports 20V voltage and maximum OCP of 6.32A. Please be sure to connect 120W power adapter to DC port for power supply if you set the TDP to 65W.
@TakiTarik Жыл бұрын
i dont get what the two gigabit ethernet ports are for.? Like why 2 ?
@JCDenton205 Жыл бұрын
another long awaited retrospective to watch lets go
@BarryBazzawillWilliams Жыл бұрын
I cannot get an AU version of the power adapter, why BeeLink
@realandrewhatfield Жыл бұрын
Patrick, maybe I missed it, but can these be run via USB PD? Would love it if we arent forced to use that proprietary power connector. @8:58 it seems to be something wanted/needed and @13:58 it seems to be implied that you could.
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
You need a higher wattage power source to do so, but it worked with the eGPU chassis
@realandrewhatfield Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Good news, thank you! Next step will be to replace that power brick. Given the current $100 price tag for a 140w USB-C brick it might be a while...
@mrdali676 ай бұрын
Nice thing with the different colors. I think Blink like you said just pushes the tdp a bit more than Minisforum. They are pretty conservative about the tdp setting. You can push it higher with software and I would not have problem doing that even Minisforum do not condone doing it. Their power bricks is big enough to boost it without a problem, and it does push the graphics performance when you allow the cpu to go a bit higher. It's not that I personly would be using it, but It's also nice that Minisforum delivers an Oculink adapter if you want to push an eGPU a bit more than the USB 4 interface bandwith. I don't know why, but I just have an idea that Beelink in the past have had a bit of problems with Quality. I like they have chosen to change their design to about same formfactor as Minisforum. This model looks surpricingly like Minisforum if it wasn't for the "Dutch" color 😄
@gtr2798 Жыл бұрын
So is this a good buy? Not a big computer nerd so I’m just looking for a good mini pc to do basic business stuff and small gaming.
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
This is good, but for your use case, check the pricing on the non-Pro version.
@bastian433 Жыл бұрын
Still happy with my SER6 Pro, it at least uses a normal adapter. it's not as fast as this but fast enough, and sure was a lot cheaper. More people should tell Beelink to quit using the nasty non-standard connector.
@marksawesomeadventures Жыл бұрын
I really liked this Review, I'm all excited about this one, because it's perfect to throw in my Back Pack and use the Hotel TV as a Monitor as I travel the World. 😁 I feel like I would throw the whole White Plastic Divider plate with the Fan out, and just make my own Turbo Fan with a Screen Grid for the whole Top Cover, (I'm not going to be sitting my Coffee on top of it or anything) 😁
@john2001plus Жыл бұрын
I don't see a price, but I assume that the difference in cost will push me to buy the cheaper Minisforum. It is my understanding that I could tune the settings on the Minisforum to get a little more performance.
@RyRylieOfficial Жыл бұрын
can this play and run vrchat? not in vr mode, but can it run in desktop mode? if i can get a answer that would be great.
@ryanslats6764 Жыл бұрын
Is beelink gtr7 pro good for vr racing games?
@rosswitte Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. If I may ask, what do you use a living room PC for? I feel like I might be missing out on something fun and convenient. Thank you.
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
It is used as a home PC. Also, when my wife and I need to look at things (e.g. paint colors for the house) it is easy to get it up on a big screen. If I had time to play games, it might be that as well.
@pcmicrodude8 ай бұрын
Nice review! Where can I find one of your ratcheting screwdrivers?
@threadripper979 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how the LTT screwdrivers are a flex. OK, OK, I admit I have one, too. 🤣
@Bob_Smith19 Жыл бұрын
It’s a quick way to tell you have more money than brains.
@threadripper979 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but it's the ONLY screwdriver that I've ever had that has the ratchet turn the right way. I happily paid for that feature.@@Bob_Smith19
@shaolindreams11 ай бұрын
I do like the teal green one it would match my office nicely. I used to have a bright orange ACER predator monitor... the orange one would go perfectly :D I think with a couple little mods, custom cooling with a noctua fan and a high spec nvme, you're cooking.
@Maisonier Жыл бұрын
Amazing device, I'd love that with 10gbe and IPMI instead of two 2,5gbe lan ports.
@ChickensAndGardening Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I wonder if it can handle Debian Linux or similar, in addition to Win10 which I assume it does by default.
@StevenMelikean Жыл бұрын
I just bought this today and I have a question about the back removable plate, i.e., did I hear you right regarding Beelink has REPLACED THE EXISTING BACK COVER WITH ONE THAT IS PERFORATED NEAR THE FAN TO IMPROVE AIR FLOW, whereby noise and temperatures are further reduced? Or, did you ask Beelink to provide you with a special cover to address the noise and heat issues? If you or someone else can answer this question, I would be very appreciative. By the way, great review!
@MegaMastiffman Жыл бұрын
It completely blows my mind! That these manufacturers don’t hire an interpreter and then call oh I don’t know maybe YOU!!! And get a clue on there most profitable market!! So dumb really. Makes me want to buy up BeeLink and just take it to the next level. Great job man love the videos thank you.
@flickerblip9044 Жыл бұрын
That new mag power adapter is coming up through non-PC channels. I have some hyper -power led flashlights with the same high current mag-based chargers .
@thedanyesful9 ай бұрын
For the screws, wouldn't a normal run-of-the-mill screwdriver fit fine where your over-sized screwdriver shaft doesn't? Also you picked some weird benchmarks to show. How often are you expecting us to run 7-zip and heavy OpenSSL workloads?
@ServeTheHomeVideo9 ай бұрын
We just use those as a baseline. They tend to be pretty decent in scaling across cores and across different core types.
@om3galul989 Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to GEEKOM AS 6
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
We did not do a video for the AS 6 but did a main site article: www.servethehome.com/geekom-as-6-review-an-amd-ryzen-9-powered-mini-pc-asus/ The AS 6 is probably more of a SER7 competitor (see our latest upload) with the SER7 being a generation newer AMD APU onboard.
@jpallen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Curious, would your recommend it for heavy video editing and picture editing, how does it compare to the Mac Studio?
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Depends on the CODEC. If you are doing Apple ProRes, then the Mac is better. If you are using AV1, then this will be better. I have the M1 Ultra Studio and it goes largely unused at this point.
@mixelplix5 ай бұрын
I bought Minisforum UM790 Pro and have been nothing but happy. I got the barebones for 375$ US. Then put in a 2TB SSD and 64G of fastest ram. It's been awesome for only 575$ US. Runs BG3 flawlessly, and every other game I try.
@financesdomatter Жыл бұрын
This would be perfect if it had a card reader as well - why do you think it’s not included?
@lumibraulius Жыл бұрын
Between the "Clear CMOS" button in a place that makes no sense whatsoever and again with the proprietary power connector, it's out....NEXT
@supervan5597 Жыл бұрын
do you think we change replace the fan with a noctua one for ultra quiet workflow??
@astrahcat1212 Жыл бұрын
I'm in love with the mini computer trend.
@_GarethRossUK Жыл бұрын
My GTR7 7840HS on Geekbench 6 won't score higher than 9500 and mostly 8800 why is that? You scored 11930 yet my single core score actually is as high as your 7940HS so I don't know whats happening but I am monitoring all the cores are active. It says its 65w enabled, I have not changed anything with the bios and not updated it either.
@megabaneen8057 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Love you vids. Love how they have a usb A 3.2 in the front USB 2 what a let down. Wifi 6 not E let down. Can the wifi card be upgraded?
@MiniArts159 Жыл бұрын
The fact these things outclass an Intel 12900 (non-KS/K) is really understated.
@thomasmichaelschwarz9741 Жыл бұрын
I have the minisforum um790 and the cooling solution for ssd AND memory is far better. Even under stress test the temps stay super cool plus super silent. And if you want to beef up the cpu you could in the bios. But why ?? It is already powerful enough at stock. Wonder why you prefer this one now.....
@Manic_Panic Жыл бұрын
Besides the heating issues, the GTR7 has a proprietary power connector and an exposed cmos button anyone can press. I have the UM790 Pro as well and I don't mind that it's 5% weaker than the GTR7 Pro since it's far more stable, runs way cooler and doesn't have any proprietary nonsense. It's also the most silent pc I ever owned, running the PS3 emulator and I don't hear the fans. I only hear them when I do zip compression.
@chuckthetekkie Жыл бұрын
My mom would absolutely love that orange PC as it's her favorite color. If I had the money I would probably get it to replace her current Windows 10 PC a 2014 Mac Mini.
@pmusic6414 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Do you have a recommendation for a fanless mini PC?
@justiziero11 ай бұрын
Something that wasnt mentioned at all is the fingerprint scanner on the top. For now, the only brand and model to have iit, and thats a huge PLUS. BTW I dont know what happened with stock, they dont have it anymore on amazon
@knofi7052 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, Patrick! Is the Bios complete and unlocked?
@3702251a Жыл бұрын
I wanted to know what kind temps were looking at in a little box
@peffken8834 Жыл бұрын
Thx for the discription. I miss some impressions and experiences how well the system does in practice, like gaming, video editing, graphics, or a Cinebench.
@stevendelach2847 Жыл бұрын
I dont get the context behind Linus not liking the screwdriver. Plz someone fill me in
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
He just stopped by to say hi as Jeff Geerling was taking video of me making the screwdriver (I filmed him doing the same.) I do not think Linus would have hired me based on my speed.
@dnldnl4880 Жыл бұрын
Do we know if vspehre 8 will run and leverage the internal nics?
@JapChinLuvr Жыл бұрын
The CMOS clear button bothers me. I wonder if it could be disconnected inside, and only reconnected if actually needed? I might think about getting 4 tiny pieces of plastic and super-glue them to make a little box around the button so that it's available if you really need to use it, but the box would make accidental activation unlikely.
@NoMastersNoMistress Жыл бұрын
Well this craps all over the Crapple M2, but when Crapple solders everything onto the mobo that's trivially easy to do.
@poorplayer92495 ай бұрын
Really enjoying your content! Just subbed in. I'm watching this video 1 year after it dropped and the GTR7 is still OOS on Amazon. Of course, the price on Amazon now is a couple hundred less than it was at release. But that really bites, 'cuz this one has lots of the features I'd like to have in a mini. I can't even find a "Pro" listing or option choice. Even the Beelink store doesn't show the GTR7 sku when I search there. Any suggestions for "close to" options that are currently in stock? Preferably with Windows 11.
@jacobsoby391011 ай бұрын
USBC power is possible but according to their website.: If you want to use USB4 port(PD3.0 100W) for power supply, please set the TDP to 54W in your BIOS settings and use a PD charger which supports 20V voltage and maximum OCP of 6.32A. Please be sure to connect 120W power adapter to DC port for power supply if you set the TDP to 65W.
@nathangilmour1460 Жыл бұрын
Random question - where could I buy the black and blue screwdriver that you have on the shelf over your right shoulder in the background? Awesome video as always thanks for the insights. I think this device made the top of my list when I retire my main custom desktop and go to a mini pc.
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
I am not sure it is for sale. That is the LTT Creator Edition screwdriver
@nathangilmour1460 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, thank you so much for the response!@@ServeTheHomeVideo
@0wl999 Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, the company that makes these seems sketchy as their own website is dead. I'll look for another comparable unit...🤔🤔🤔
@kansax8253 Жыл бұрын
Did you check out the power phases and how hot the VRMs get? That's a big issue with motherboards, especially ones from AliExpress.
@gizzmoguy. Жыл бұрын
Can i use to 4k display at 120 hertz on with this minipc?
@Fitchett201210 ай бұрын
I appreciate y’all‘s videos… Can y’all recommend a mini PC that will accept a secondary 3.5”drive, in addition to an SSD or M.2 boot drive?