More Performance - More Flight Time // Mobula6 HDZero // Part 2?

Not much to say, make a whoop fly better.
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[@jakestyles002]

I think it is great how clear you are about your personal bias and at the same time present a quality detailed review. I appreciate that alot about your content.

[@CalleyyyC]

Thank you Nick! Not sure how I missed this video but came to watch it before watching the 75mm vid. Headed over there now!

[@jakestyles002]

That pool cover is going to ruin the "FPV Splashdown Reel" that I have been looking forward to since you told us you were getting a pool. Love your work, Thank you.

[@TheVeganarchism]

Great video. That HDZero image quality is so good, can’t wait for the goggles so I can get one of these 1S beauties!

[@DMarko22]

Nice improvement in your backyard, I like the extra cooking space by the pool.

[@spikespine3]

Great vid, Nick! Glad you followed up your review with this, love the improvements! Happy fourth 🥳

[@-Gruntled]

After getting sore fingers every time I changed props, and then looking for some sort of prop removal tool and finding none, I decided to go a different route and purchased "Wisdompro 16 Pcs Finger Tips, 4 Sizes Anti-Slip and Reusable Silicone Fingertip Protector" from Amazon. I wear one pair on each thumb and index finger so I can grab the prop without any pain and the motor without any slippage. It comes with more sets than I need so I gave some away to other whoop flying friends. Nick, you should try it for a cheap and effective solution.

[@Adam_Carbone]

I like that you are making an improvement video on the Mobula6 HDZero, not many videos on the quad to begin with so this is awesome! It is cool that you were able to get BlueJay firmware on these ESCs. The DVR footage looks great! Not very much breakup indoors. This quad is definitely speedy and more efficient, two relatively simple changes go a long way! I remember when you were talking about possibly getting a pool a while back, so it is cool seeing the progression of the pool and outdoor living space with each video that is posted! Love the micro time, thanks for the video!

[@beratsbuilds]

I was waiting for this video :) Thanks a ton!

[@curazyheart7143]

For 40mm Gemfan Props, the Gemfan prop tool is life changing! Lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I generally don't have problems with gemfan props on 1mm shafts. The gemfan 2023 on 1.5mm shafts can be hard to get off.

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome mods, Nick! Fantastic flying! 😃 Pretty nice little quad indeed! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Rooonga]

Happy 4th from the UK Nick! Didn’t expect a video today - so many thanks for this.

[@parker1ray]

I flashed three with Blue jay, and two were fine, the last was not and had to be rolled back! The third quad developed prop wash and wobble, and when reverted back to Blheli, all was well!

[@wingsounds13]

Nice that you can get an improvement with the BlueJay ESC firmware and different props. This is a cheap hop-up. Now on to the 75mm frame. :D Like you, I much prefer the performance (and efficiency) of the 75mm form over the 65mm. However... for me the sweet spot is 3" tooothpicks like the Babytooth and Gnarly Primo. Adding HDZero to those would be a minor performance hit that should be more than balanced out by the improved video.

[@bradleybeaudry8935]

I started drilling my prop hubs after hurting my fingers and destroying a few motor shafts trying to replace props. A gentle quick pass with a #62, .0380in, or .9652mm bit works good. They feel a little loose but stay on the shafts. Doing this on 4 whoops, and some 50 packs, I only lost 1 prop in a hard crash.

[@rfly-fpv]

Great video as always. Really looking forward to see 75 frame with 1S HDZero whoop :) Now I'm flying Mobula 7 ELRS - finally long range in whoop but it's analog quality really sucks :P

[@calcifiedbonecollector3222]

I don't get that whoop long-range thing? Why should I go long-range with a frkn whoop?in my opinion 100m are already ultra long-range for a whoop why go further. If you want to go take a real kwad!

[@rfly-fpv]

​@@calcifiedbonecollector3222 In near past there was no single board whoop FC with everything integrated. Now we have HappyModel ELRS board with 400 mW analog VTX. Now I have no problems flying 100 - 200 m even behind the trees that was not possible with 25 mW VTX and FrSky. Mobula 7 ELRS is very lightweight and flies like a rocket. If I could have the same sized whoop with digital HDZero system then it would be the best thing in the world. Sometimes you cannot bring "real quad" as you wrote because there are people that might be scared by something bigger even if it's below 250 grams.

[@edrone_]

One of the best review videos for sure! I am so close to pulling the trigger but for some reason I am hesitant I think mainly because of the issues with the previous Mobula 6. I'm really curious as to why they would have went with biblade props over triblades? I think I will wait a bit longer and see how they hold up overtime before I order. I really appreciate your feedback and thorough review Nick well done as always! 👍

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am more and more sure they try to maximize flight time and get the lowest possible weight. Part of the marketing side to our hobby

[@CaptCalgary]

Flawless review Nick!! Looking forward to the 75mm format !!

[@seanconnolly2179]

Happy 4th Nick !!!

[@testpilotian3188]

I made a cable from an old 9v power supply and used a step down regulator to 4v to power the whoop when flashing the firmware, saves the worry of finding that one battery that dies for no reason out of the blue and loosing the board potentially.

[@fatdogfpv9347]

I'll be watching this later when I've finished work. Keep up the great work.

[@w1llyFPV]

Hello Nick, this DVR is really great. What is the chance that you could install this vtx on for example Crux3 2s? 😜

[@StuckOnAFireHydrant]

Save that poor stranded Roomba!

[@johncarold]

Hi Nick Great video on the 65mm HDzero quad, I just don't know if I will try mockingbird, I tend to mess-up with downloading firmware, Thanks again for your review of your quad.

[@ProjectMockingbird]

31mm Azi's are notoriously hard to get off and I've had to clip off quite a few. Drilling them out is tricky but works...Haven't had the issue with 40mm tho. I have had pretty good luck taking a hair dryer to them and then working them off, but you have to be careful not to melt things.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I must be flying the 40mm much more often, I would have started with the gemfan props first

[@StuckOnAFireHydrant]

Just outta curiosity nick now that both those connectors have been out for a while now, which do you prefer the gnb27 it bt2.0?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't think I have a true preference, other than I don't like transitioning batteries to either...its a pain. With that I think I would have to chose BT2.0 as more 1s high quality batteries come with that connector. Tattu, NBD, WeBleedFPV 300mah all have bt2.0. So far only GNB and Emax branded batteries come with GNB.

[@mercurymoyes4018]

Just got a Cetus pro, the first owner couldn't get it to go. Hope I just have to bind it fly and that it hasn't been fried! Fingers crossed when bargain hunting!:)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

They should come bound. Maybe they didn't know what switch to use for arming?

[@mercurymoyes4018]

@@NickBurnsFPV finger crossed that's the case I think English was their second language only time it doesn't have translation! Just started raining here sadly may not be maiden flight today:( . maybe a coffee and arm it in the house:)

[@mercurymoyes4018]

@@NickBurnsFPV an update to the Cetus pro maiden flight... Well not that well lol ,I did re watch your video and I watched a few more, turns out in normal mode the sensors can go wacky eg zooming upto and sticking on ceiling!, I had this effect but it did sound not smooth so I tried to recalibrate the control, and somehow I may of unbound the drone as a yellow light comes on after the flashing blue that would usually go solid blue! Aghhh better hit the instructions again I guess

[@headfog7621]

I think if I fall in a pool that doesn't have a cover I would have a better chance of swimming out, If the pool is covered I can see the cover wrapping up my arms and legs when impacting the water. OR ripping a hole letting me fall threw then leaving me with only one way out like falling threw the ice. Love the work thats been done looks like yous pick the right people for the job.

[@paulgkong]

Yuu

[@headfog7621]

@@paulgkong not sure what that means....

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Not likely. This cover is cabled into the sides, and is supposed to withstand 2000lbs. The kids and I have walked on it a number of times. Like walking in a bouncy house. :)

[@headfog7621]

@@NickBurnsFPV wow you should do a video on that. that is very good to hear not just the stats but a family test ....Love it😉

[@danielbourke1138]

Much better to cut of stubborn props rather then bend a motor shaft 😃

[@technoxtreme178]

I have the new 70mm Mobula 7 with the 400 Mw video and non-HD (for weight savings). It is fast and responsive, but I run out of room too soon in my backyard which is about 110' x 40' ...so this might be more suited for anyone with less space than Nick... and I like the gap/proximity capabilities of a 65mm. The HD Zero is light-years better than the analogue I'm on, so yes...this appears to be the direction that whoops are going... looks like it's time to get a new pair of goggles with HDZero receiver... what is the current state-of-the-art google for HDZero... or should I wait until the dust settles with all the new HD goggles hitting the market now?

[@marcosrossetti1582]

I'm also looking for the HDzero Goggles. I'd like to pull the trigger on the vtx module. But I still don't have an HDMI capable Goggles. So I'd have to buy that as well. So for me it seems that waiting for the new HDzero goggles seems to be right around the corner and should have the unmatched low latency only HDzero can offer.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

HDZero is in the process of making their own goggle with hdzero built in and the capability of adding an analog module to it. I don't know when they will be out, but I suspect we will start to see prototypes and testing in the next 60days. Probably another 60 days to production and then launch. If that timeline is to far out, the only qualifier in a goggle to work with hdzero is hdmi input. The skyzone 04x and 04 lineup will work as well as the fatshark hdo2 and orcq goggles. I am not sure the eachine ev300o work but they should if they have hdmi input as they are likely made by skyzone. I am not aware of budget goggles that have hdmi input.

[@RyanQuellet]

Nice video! I hadn't considered the slower spin down in 96kHz and now I notice it. I wonder if I can tune it out somehow

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, like one of those memes. Now that you feel it you can't unfeel it. I wouldn't think we can tune it out, but I am often wrong. One thing I was thinking about exploring is using 96khz with esc braking on. Seems like that would offset the efficiency we get from 96khz.

[@RyanQuellet]

@@NickBurnsFPV how about dynamic idle? I haven't experimented with it yet, but it's supposed to help with low throttle performance

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@RyanQuellet I only recently toyed with that, but on a larger propped quad. Should try it on the whoops too

[@Daddyfly_FPV]

Nick, what do you think about the Skyzone 04x2 goggles with the hdzero vrx? I had DJI system but sold it off. I still fly a ton of analog but with entry level box goggles. I figure with the sky zones I can still fly analog and make the jump back to digital with the hdzero vrx, too. I fly a lot of whoops mainly. I only fly my 5” occasionally….just not enough space.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I presume the 2 is the second edition of the o4x? If so that is what I have switched to for hdzero. The analog receiver isn't as good as rapidfire and I have found even the 60fps dvr is slightly inconsistent with frame recording which is important to me as making these videos I sync the dvr to flight audio from a second camera. Probably not that important to most.

[@jimmy0tran]

Thanks for the review. I bought one based on it and loving it. I am thinking of getting the Mobula7 HDZero because I have batteries for it and would like a longer flight time. How does the flight feel of the 6 compared to the 7? Would the 7 be able to care in Cadxx Peanut?

[@lililililililili8667]

My banggood mobeetle6 still hasn't shipped and I ordered it as soon as your mobeetle video came out

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Sorry to hear that. I don't know why Banggood hasn't shipped it. I would suggest contacting banggood support.

[@lililililililili8667]

@@NickBurnsFPV it will eventually come probably shortages or something

[@marcosrossetti1582]

I didn't know you also have some 35mm prop whoops. What FC do you use on them? Since you are making sure to test everything on this HDzero from different props and firmware before going to the 75mm frame with 40mm props, why not go in steps and test it on a 65mm frame with 35mm props biblade and triblade? This FC seems to fit, I'm not sure about the HDzero vtx though...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

35mm props on a 65mm whoop isn't very popular, due to the restricted size of the FC, it pretty much has to be diamond shaped an not all the diamond shaped FC will work well as they can press on the whoop and then the prop strikes the other side of the whoop.

[@parker1ray]

My Mobula 7 HD is also a bit lethargic!

[@SeeFPv-qm6ie]

nice

[@8BiT_fpv]

Yepperz! Sweet

[@dirtymcstinky1656]

I've got two bundles on order but I have questions! Given the fc is the superbeef4 I assume that doesn't have a vtx hence being 2.5g. is the fc thinner? Could I put the hdzero vtx with crazybeef4 in a metor frame? I'm worried now about the heft of this Vs the viable weight for 0802. Do you have 1002 and will you try a build with them? Sorry for all the questions Nick.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't have plans to try 1002 motors on 31mm props. I don't think it will turn out well. I think the minimum prop on 1002 is 40mm. I have a video on the rcinpower 1002 motors. This new aio will likely fit in about any whoop frame. Its smaller than all but the crossed shaped aio. As to thinner, I don't think it is, but when the are thinner the difference in weight is marginal

[@onclefly8450]

Hi Nick, but more $200 for this + HDzero reveiver crazy for the 65mm price 😢😢

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The alternative is to say analog. Prices won't likely come down for a good long while. And when they do they won't go down to 2019 prices....seems they never do.

[@onclefly8450]

@@NickBurnsFPV Yes, I never want HDzero because at the end of the garden or behind the house you have a worse quality than analogue 😆

[@fpvsmurf]

If one switched this to bluejay and decides to later go back to default, how does one do it? Just flash bl heli?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes, we flash back.

[@farisnazeri9841]

hello ,can you share your pid tuning

[@american7169]

Are you seeing any issues with the gnb27 plugs? I have 10 packs for the nano baby and 3 are super tight and 2 are very loose, so much so that if I bump in flight I lose power.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, I have seen that, mostly I experienced that early after release and not so much lately. If the connection is loose we can tighten it up with a very tiny knife edge, the connection as a split in it that we can spread out to tighten up the connection. for those that are to tight we often need to spread the distance between the two "pin" connections.

[@bigO1960]

could you recommend a good bind and fly tiny whoop for a beginner pilot I have a radiomaster TX 16 and analog goggles.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

mobeetle6, mobula6, mobula7 1s I have videos on all of them.

[@bass3587]

Nick can you make a bad video? 8 mean so your reviews are so good we need to see a bad one so that we know you're human. 😁😁

[@phatpastor32974]

What’s you tune? Is there a preset?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I haven't done any presets. The tune in this video is the stock mobula6 hdzero tune

[@andreiiulian5649]

Hi @Nick Burns, what do you think fly better? Mobula 7 1s / Mobeetle 6 (with toothpick frame come in) / Moblite 7? I ordered Mobula 7 but i have to wait restock and i can change the product with banggood

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think the mobula7 1s flies better and longer. the mobeetle 6 with a larger battery, to fly longer, doesn't fly as well as the mobula7 1s.

[@andreiiulian5649]

@@NickBurnsFPV what about flywoo firefly 1s nano baby? :D

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@andreiiulian5649 the original or the freestyle version?

[@andreiiulian5649]

@@NickBurnsFPV the freestyle version

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@andreiiulian5649 Its close but I would still give the edge to the mobula 7 1s

[@walkofshamebadairdayfpv6120]

I cut azi props off.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I was getting pretty close to that step.

[@chansky8145]

Hài quá

[@screamatthewind]

I like mine. All the newer Mobula's are good aircraft. Don't buy from Banggood. Been waiting over 100 days for a refund on a DOA aircraft. They do not honor their return policy. Buy from a regional vendor instead. Got mine from DefinanceRC.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

We often have to "nag" the eastern vendors. The don't seem to have the follow through

[@tonymorgan328]

I have actually used wire cutters to get props off that I couldn't remove otherwise. Saves the motor shaft, just be a little careful.🪓