More Pros Call For Coaching BAN, Arslan Ash Responds | Tekken 8

[@unchartedrocks1]

Leroy comes up on stage & says, “believe in your heart.” You bet I win every tournament with those words of encouragement.

[@jondavis3427]

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[@travelerwatanabe]

Coaching doesn't need to be banned, just perhaps some added rules around it

[@nep401]

My thoughts exactly like only 1 coach should be registered and that there should coaching limit to a few numbers

[@joaoichigo1]

@@travelerwatanabe or you could only have one if your opponent also had one

[@Justlookingaround19]

Rule no.1 Coaching can only be done before the Match Starts 😊

[@travelerwatanabe]

@@Justlookingaround19 that one, I disagree with.

[@ChrisM-wv4gs]

Agreed doesn't need to be banned but we need regulations

[@TK-ev]

As long as there is already a time limit between games, the player is inclined to do whatever they please in those 60-ish seconds. If it can happen in between rounds in combat sports then the FGC should be able to handle it. Though I do feel that only one designated person should be allowed to provide advice throughout the entire day.

[@majones117]

Saying Boxing or MMA is not a mental sport is an inncorect statement. Both those sports rely on reading your opponent, playing mind games, remaining calm under pressure, and executing a game plan. I see nothing wrong with coaching but i do think that the time limit NEEDS to be enforced. Players should start calling officials on each other for taking to long and offenders need to be warned for a 1st offense and then round losses for a repeat.

[@riceyboi7069]

Isnt there a 1 minute rule? Also, dont coaches need to be registered? These 2 rules need to be double downed on. Coaching is fine, but the tine limits and limits on who can coach you are important.

[@Ishmaster2020]

I think it’s fine, there should be limits like time and having to register your coach beforehand

[@IamDeftly]

There is a time limit of 1 min but that rule is broken all the time. Just yesterday during Mixup so many times people's coaching visits are taking as long as 2 min or even longer. The time limit is there but from watching the last few big tournaments the rule doesn't appear to be enforced.

[@ksang0013]

I like the register coach beforehand rule

[@TK-ev]

​@@IamDeftly if that is the case the TO's need to crack down on it. If people break the time limit they forfeit a game.

[@slugshotgun]

I don't know how coaching helps or drags these tournaments but I do feel like a 30-60 second break is needed between sets.

[@chucklos391]

No coaching. Period. Every player to himself during a match. Up to him to decipher the match.

[@huzaifawajid4333]

Coaching is an essential part of combat sports doesn't matter virtual or irl boxing MMA BJJ competitions video game. Coaching doesn't mean sh*t if the player couldn't capitalize on it.

[@falconeshield]

In tennis, once the match starts the coach stays on the side. They prepped them enough. That is what should happen in video game torneys.

[@brotherels]

Bitch this ain't boxing bruh I am sick and tired when one person loses a round a coach immediately jumps on stage and slows the match down, then when the other loses they bring their coach up like bro I'm here for the 1v1 not 2v2 exchange

[@funkrates4778]

Lmao!!! How detached from reality do you have to be to compare combat sports to playing a video game. I suppose Call of Duty players comparing themselves to soldiers at war is legit too. Touch grass my friend.

[@huzaifawajid4333]

@@funkrates4778 l take bad comparison no body in real life thinks that COD comparison. And I didn't compared sports I compared the aspect of coaching. So you should touch grass green rank

[@funkrates4778]

@@huzaifawajid4333 lol green rank? Why don’t you touch a school book so you can have more than one brain cell. You have a fighters trainer in his corner because he’s there to treat his cuts, bruises, provide water and evaluate his fighter to make sure he can continue to fight. That’s like Tekken huh? Okay dog brain.

[@Userfound7]

Honestly i feel like they should get tournament sanctioned coaches and have a button the players can press for the coach, so its not a random person and it eliminates the possibility of one player having access and the other not having access

[@Jeneric81]

Tekken is not like chess, bc you can’t get fed the optimal move to make while playing the actual game. If you allow someone to coach in chess they can use computers to actually calculate the best move at every turn

[@La_Mort_Noire]

In my opinion, Tekken is more like boxing... Especially if it's the rules that Mike Tyson wants a place on Jake Paul... 15 rounds, 30 second breaks in between... That's why I don't respect people who don't rematch on the game. It's best 2 out of 3.

[@tabben82]

Midfight coaching is actually annoyin af, it's so gona get abused by messing with momentum etc if there is no rule on it soon

[@rryuko3668]

yup that already happen between Ak vs Bilal in LCQ 2019 please watch it XD

[@furqanbangash]

agree with so many people in the comments... there should be rules around it and it has to be followed strictly with penalties if someone doesn't follow them..

[@u12blue]

Finally somebody addressed this. Idk who came up with this bs. Its wasting so much time and kills momentum for players. Being able to gather yourself after the match is also part of the mental aspect of the game. Coaching ruins the integrity of the esport scene

[@RuTo94]

Coaching fine just as long as they give a time limit. It's like saying for any sport they'll have a coach to tell them what they need to do to win.

[@SonnyAmadeus]

Ban coaching! Especially by other pro players who are in the tournament. Fighting games are 1 on 1 battles, you should win by yourself not with advice mid set from another competitor. It's crazy to me. If they want to regulate it more, coaches should have the title Coach and be available on request by the loser. We should also be able to hear what is being said IMO.

[@BigTexas88]

Idk bout this big dawg. I get the mind games and set ups but that’s just like in sports. Ur coach sees it and makes adjustments and it’s ur job has a player is to apply it and win. It’s a professional setting. All professional competitions has coaching. Just about adjustments and if ur coach is better than the opponents coach u gotta live wit it.

[@xravenx24fe]

Okay, but some pro players have whole teams of people. There aren't public coaches like public defenders, so now what, it's pay to win, or have friends to win? That's lame and besides it's just as much about time stalling as it is coaching

[@TK-ev]

​@@xravenx24fe Tekken seems to have a problem with time limits more than anything. If that gets strictly enforced, it can help solve the roundtables coaching problem.

[@fancyhermit7]

Coaching doesn't necessarily have to be banned, just make it have limitations

[@MrRaynx3]

if its a tournament like 1v1. No coaching be allowed. But if its like those matches like Korea Vs Japan 3v3 should be fine.

[@zzproduction1922]

there is time limit around 60 sec i think

[@MikeZehdnicker]

Some good rules like limit of coaching time limit, pre register whos the coach only allowed if both have coahes ? dunno man or just totaly forbidden

[@ceroenblanco]

I think each player could have some kind of tokens they can spend on coaching when they feel they need It.

[@Cherry91]

You say the winner shouldn't get to be coached. But what if the opponent switches character for the next match and the winner's coach has some advice to give with regards to the new pick? Should that winner lose that game and then their coach can come in? And the same conundrum will happen in case the loser decides to pick another character as well. I don't think that rule is enforceable. Strict time limit and ensuring the coach does what they say they'll do are the only way to make sure it doesn't go out of hand IMHO.

[@aspoiledpotato6231]

Speedkicks' solution to coaching is actually kinda good, you should only coach before the match no one should ever coach while the match is going on or atleast limit it to like 10 seconds

[@tricksalot2]

there was that old sfv meme with like 4 or 5 players coaching 2 players while playing the game.

[@saadfareed8365]

If coaching is causing delays and etc then using Bluetooth should also be tackled which causes delays more than coaching. There is nothing wrong with it.

[@ZCodeBLEACH]

They should do it like boxing. 30 seconds between rounds. That's all you get if you want coaching. Limited time to get coached. I do like the coaching tho.

[@alimehdikhan-vw6rv]

It’s not wrong 😑 it’s ok to have coaching this increase hype

[@HusniArsyah]

(5:13) - I Rather people ban these, how you could thinking to do this 3 times low, in result get punishment... 🤣

[@shopeeseller]

Coaching is cheating. If coaching was that important it should happen BEFORE the first match begins. Coaches just angry they don’t get their 10 seconds of screen time.

[@GBELCHIOR616]

Speedkicks doesn´t even use Howrang anymore.

[@divinefist8153]

My dragunov got wierd moves now I don't use the mf

[@linja3946]

I believe this should be well identified on what needs to be done when 2 players finish a match of having a downtime for the losing player selecting a character... Will they allow other people on stage other than the authorized or designated personnel maintaining the event and equipments or devices being used? Does it make a real difference or double standards since these players presumably prepared for these tournaments and lab all characters to be more competitive? I think coaching should just be a passive approach to this game and not the hands on deck type like what we see right now... I think momentum wise, they should consider this as a bad thing to that player having the upper hand because yes it's a mentality and psychological mode too with such disruptions in the game. The game of Tekken is like a Tennis match were the strong willed could overcome adversities...

[@MrSamuelAdam4]

I 100% agree this should be banned. You're competing for a lot of money. These other players aren't playing the match so they shouldn't be allowed to say anything. It's up to the competing players to notice & adapt to what is going on in the match.

[@TK-ev]

Combat sports fighters get punched in the face and still get coached for 60 seconds. Simply make sure the time limit is enforced.

[@MrSquishy0]

Just give a 30 second time limit and only if you lost the match you can get a coach

[@ericalfon1620]

Funny how this man in Twitter compared MMA or Boxing to Fighting game. MMA & Boxing: wrong move --> you could severely injured or can even die --> that's why coaching is allowed Fighting games: wrong move --> you just need to come up with new strategy --> that's why coaching should be banned. I agree Fighting game is all about mind games and pattern reading. It's more similar to chess match. It's absolutely weird if some pros play Chess and in the mid game they got coached by Magnus Carlsen and win after that. 🤣

[@btiiithug9585]

Coaching is also done in sports which aren't related to fighting lmao is there any danger in golf cricket? Baseball

[@michaelriddick4693]

It's a slick way to slow people down to stop the opponents momentum...

[@imperialistsloth6795]

thats how it works in regular sports too

[@michaelriddick4693]

@@imperialistsloth6795 that how they did Venus Williams when she first started playing tennis... Icing the opponent I guess

[@Topgamer357]

You don’t always have to immediately rematch in a lot of tournaments anyway.

[@imperialistsloth6795]

@@michaelriddick4693 its a valid strat only problem is in tekken there isnt a limit and there are no pre selected coaches

[@TK-ev]

​@@imperialistsloth6795 yep. Same way some players get memed on for taking 60 seconds to breathe and slowly drink water. That doesn't get banned.

[@justinpat2]

it's a videogame and the pros are supposed to be showcasing their own skills and ability to adapt to their opponent, coaching is stupid

[@Ymyeh-lr8wj]

You can argue the best boxers in the world who have been fighting for years still gets coached because A) In the heat of a match even pros get tunnel vision. B) they don't see the whole picture at times. Coaching will only lead to better plays and players.

[@funkrates4778]

Coaching should be banned 💯 percent. I agree it’s like chess. Imagine to chess players in a tournament having friends come up and telling them what moves to make. You know these guys are coming up and saying “you can punish that ‘string’ with with a f/d 4” or “he goes for a low every-tine after that sequence, so do your standing punish as soon as you see it.” That’s cheating and is the same as a chess tournament player having his friends come up and tell him the best move sequence to make. BAN IT‼️

[@clockpenalty]

Fighting games are about knowledge and pattern recognition. Ban coaching in 1v1 tournaments but lean into it in team tournaments with headset comms so people dont need to come up on stage. Coaching is cheating unless it's a team tournament. The effectiveness of coaching in team tournaments like street fighter league shows the effect it can have to skew performance.

[@TK-ev]

How is it cheating? People get coached in Boxing and MMA and no one calls it cheating.

[@clockpenalty]

@@TK-ev Boxing and MMA are physical. It's your coach's job to give you a pep talk and to cover the mental aspect of the fight. But fighting games are about knowledge and pattern recognition. It's like being coached in an exam. If you just get told the correct punish or informed of a pattern you didn't detect yourself, that's not "coaching" that's illegal teamwork....AKA cheating.

[@ItsDonBro]

Coaching in a party game is insane work lmfao

[@ItsDonBro]

It's crazy how we want to address coaching and not the fact that we have to go to random select on a randomizer that is in fact NOT random. It's the same order. SO you can still counter with the wall less stage. Made a new rule for absolutely no reason.

[@ivan-fs]

Coaching should be banned. A videogame, no matter what type, is closer to chess than its real counterpart, and its an essential part of the game to be able to read your opponent's tactics and overcome them. Another thing that also should be banned... players using their phones mid matches... it's downright disrespectful.

[@raijinxfujin7314]

Sooo in boxing they literally have coaches giving them tips and answers during the breaks of each round and it’s completely fine. You literally have coaches shouting to you in football giving you orders whilst you’re running around in a real match. It shouldn’t be taken away it should be kept but with a bit more rules to make it fair so people can’t take it to far.

[@etnabq5236]

The goal should be to be better than other sports. Common people get a grip.

[@CoolGuyJ84]

It really should be banned. Coaching just drags the pace of the tourney overall, and gives the player sort of cheat knowledge that they shouldn't be given. And this is completely different from something like MMA (UFC), where a person's own life/health is on the line. Not to mention with every MMA fighter, they always have a coach or a second in their corner, which isn't the case for the fighting games tourneys. While some may say it can be regulated, I'm not really a fan of that aspect either. If it's done through regulation, where does it end? There will always be those who try to find loopholes, with 30 second coaching trying to extend it to 32 seconds or 35 seconds, shrugging saying it's 5 seconds difference. I'd say keep it consistent and just ban it in all tournaments, so these matches go through fast without delays; and each player just dealing with it based on their own knowledge of matchups.

[@JohnSmith-hf8zn]

I feel like coaching makes it more of a 2v2 game

[@ZyletaSF4]

let's imagine coaching in chess, there is no need to say more, it is extremely unfair, the main thing that attracted me to fighting games is that everything depends only and exclusively on you, now you're fighting two opponents, I remember how in a tournament I lost only because my opponent didn't know metchup at all and the person sitting told him where to block and where to punish, it was a disgusting experience, downright offensive and rude, the guy normally didn't know frame data of my character, I lost not to the opponent I was playing against but to his coach

[@Jeneric81]

@@ZyletaSF4 Chess and fighting games are actually incredibly bad comparisons. If coaching was allowed in chess then the coach would just use a computer to calculate the best move at every single turn, ie the game would essentially end up being bot vs bot. In Tekken this obviously wouldn’t work as it’s way too fast.. A coach will never be able to provide any such gamebreaking instructions in between rounds.

[@ZyletaSF4]

@@Jeneric81 If couching doesn't help, why did everyone start using it? you get the idea ? If you are calling for help from a trainer, it means that you have problems and are looking for help, Isn't this a form of cheating, there was the same situation once when a guy was talking in the chat between fights, asking his friend and it was considered a form of cheating, it's the same Intellectual games should not have such things, in box it is understandable because we train with our coaches at a high level, pro players adopt extremely quickly, they only need a few words, Additionally, this is another barrier to overcome for players who do not have coaches but would like to start taking part in tournaments, such players will be alienated at tournaments, if it continues like this, to take part in a tournament you will have to be sponsored, have a coach and a towel man, and your own chauffeur

[@Jeneric81]

@@ZyletaSF4 Ofc coaching can help, but it would help if you actually read. Coachinh in chess is extremely dissimilar to coaching in Tekken. If coaching is cheating then every competitive sport is cheating. NBA coaches aren’t telling players how to dribble or how to perform a jump shot , they’re telling players how to strategically play the game, so it’s 100% the same

[@ZyletaSF4]

@@Jeneric81 you should learn to read with understanding, I said that the coach trains you outside the fight diet training strategies, so in a sense in sports it is understandable that success depends on two people, with fighting games you train yourself in the comfort of your home, so you should show it yourself What did you learn

[@Jeneric81]

@@ZyletaSF4 This is completely a-historical. Fighting games have primarily been arcade games where people gather socially to play against each other. They were console games only as an afterthought until less then a decade ago. I spent serious time at Green Arcade, all these top korean players you see are as good as they are because they gathered in such a place, played against each ptjer and learned with and against each other. Your notion that becoming a good player is primarily about spending time at home by yourself is not congruent with how most of the great Tekken players developed their skills and knowledge.

[@spooky4223]

How do you ban couching?

[@Jeneric81]

@@spooky4223 That is fairly easy, tennis is a very simple role model.

[@cameron4809]

I have no problem with coaching if it becomes an issue you should have a minute timer but I don't often see coaching being that long. its only done after sets. I having 6 people come up is dumb but just having one or 2 max guys to coach is fine. Its part of all sports. in mma and boxing they are yelling instruction constantly in the fight atleast in E sports they care coming up after sets and not not next to them talking mid round. the way you talk about tekken being different then fighting because its about pograming your opponent then mixing things up with timing or moves is not true. they are very much the same in that way.

[@arisamone]

The arguments against coaching is kinda stupid. And stop comparing chess and fighting games, they’re not the same. The difference is chess is solely a mind game and you don’t need to use anything other than your brain. A game of chess is not a battle of the physique of the players. You could still compete if you’re blind, or in a wheel chair, or don’t have arms because those are irrelevant to the game. Tekken however like many other sports is not exclusively a mind game. You still need to execute those actions with your body, i.e. your arms, hands and fingers. It doesn’t matter how good your mind game is if you can’t execute them. Chess is a battle of the mind and strategy, Tekken is not. Chess doesn’t need you to react in a quarter of a second to your opponent’s move, other than Blitz Chess, but even then the moves in Blitz Chess are already calculated before the moves are made anyway, so it’s not really reacting. Chess doesn’t have a rock-paper-scissor. So why compare Tekken to Chess when every other sport on earth allow coaching?

[@AchillesxHeal]

i dont see any problem with it. i think at times you need a second set of eyes to win. we not talking about casuals or your local scene. this is a big dog tournament with a big pot.

[@2ndai385]

Tbh just cut the stream feed when a coach is on stage, cut to the commentators. Time limit won’t solve it, just allow them to only go up on stage twice so they have to be tactical about using it. Also if you’re not getting coaching that’s your fault, it’s not against the rules yet so use it to your advantage. They should get their own coaches. It’s just their own dumb prude and ego and the fact the coaches waste to much time. If it doesn’t get banned. We need a time limit, and that they can only go on stage once or twice that’s it. They should not be going on stage after every match.

[@sadetwizelve]

No coaching! If you're not smart enough to make adjustments then that's your fault. No coaching in the fgc.

[@switch7151]

I feel like what’s the point of going to tournaments unprepared and expect from someone you know to tell you things mid match. This is not a casual match. This is a tournament where you showcase YOUR OWN knowledge and skill at Tekken. Coaching should not be allowed in tournaments.

[@drunken_viper]

Playing the devils advocate here but if the other player also has the option to get coached mid sets but doesn't go for it...or is coach less😅 plus He also doesn't mind the other player being coached then should it matter? Imo If one's a good player and has confidence in his skill coaching shouldn't matter. If it's the case that he starts getting bodied after coaching then it's his own skills that will help him to adapt and overcome...same applies to the one getting coached as sometimes coaching doesn't do shit to improve their odds ... it's only a problem for everyone when it does. Arslans point is fair too..what if it's someone new or if someone chokes and they need some encouragement. To be fair some rules and time limitations should be in place tho.

[@Jeneric81]

@@switch7151 This is why NBA teams show up to the playoffs without coaches

[@switch7151]

@@Jeneric81 You’re seriously going to compare TEAM Sports to a 1 v 1 esports game. Valid.

[@switch7151]

@@drunken_viper Good point and I agree with you. If they really want to implement coaching then there should be rules for this as there are instances wherein time is being consumed for coaching after being bodied losing the momentum of the winner to gain better chances of winning. Maybe its just me but I do not believe that your friend will go up to you and tell you “you can do this” “we believe in you” type of BS. There will always be tips going along with that BS.

[@AlexPereirasLeftFoot]

@@switch7151 Tekken has teams dedicated to the game aswell my guy.

[@shadowboxkicker]

Ban coaching for all sports. No futbol, basketball, or even boxing.

[@leastvieweverreally]

What do you think coaches all time outs for? Stop the game and sit down and talk. What do you think happens between quarters, they don't talk at all? Add some rules and make it like an actual sport but if someone talking nice into your opponents ear is all it took for you to lose then you probably didn't deserve to win anyway. This is being overblown.

[@leovash]

I hear this . but i think the coaching in T8 aint that bad . they take about a min or 2 . i do think there should be a limit to keep the matches from being prolonged. but banned ? no .

[@HellCat_Kenny]

No one else having to fight their way to pro level gets a coach so why do pros get to? Imo coaching flies in the face of the whole point of a tourney like how sault explained at the beginning, it's supposed to be about YOU vs THEM. Also most players can't just get a coach, its a top player privilege sort of thing and i think it just serves to let the orgs have their money makers more chances to stay on the camera long term, the top players showings are the crown jewel of the tournaments, i think it takes away from their showings too, it's not that impressive when you have someone who's brain isn't in the pressure of the match come to you every game and say "hey dude you need to block X here" that should be on YOU to recognize and beat, thats the whole point of the game. Also e-sports aren't sports, it's a marketing move to call them sports, thats it.

[@Jeneric81]

@@HellCat_Kenny It’s a competition and the role of coaching is functionally identical to sports

[@HellCat_Kenny]

​@@Jeneric81its not a sport and will never be

[@HellCat_Kenny]

Any who thinks esports are a sport has never had to run until they puke before and it shows.

[@Jeneric81]

@@HellCat_Kenny That is irrelevant to the argument at hand.

[@HellCat_Kenny]

Not really when people's justification is "well fighting sports do it" @@Jeneric81

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

the whole thing "friends" is the biggest problem imo. hire a REAL coach. you know? like in the csgo teams.

[@Onishiro]

Once per match up until winners/losers finals and none in grand finals. Also speedkicks sucks. He's no "best Hwoarang." That's Rest, Yeonrang, and MadDogJin.

[@sardartv3536]

There should be a rule. My suggestion is that there only allow 1 time coaching in a whole game for each player when he lose. There should be option to chose only one coach for the whole tournament

[@Ymyeh-lr8wj]

Boxers gets coached. Hell every other team sport has coaching too so why not?

[@scottmalkinson6983]

Raef loves to coach. He needs to chill.

[@adetayoogidan8464]

the chess comparison is shit tbh because chess is a 1v1 strategy game based on the idea of "war" tactics with multiple pieces at play giving a plethora of options to win or lose, also there are 2v2 chess competitions that are still gauged on who is the best duo. So understand a coach and fighter are a duo so regardless of a combat sport or fighting game the question is.. who are the best to perform? in giving advice and executing or not executing said advice cause a fucking fight game is not anything like chess there's less time to think there is no back and forward pauses within turns to analyze your opponent to act defensively/offensively cause being stagnant in a fight is detrimental not to say it doesn't exist in chess but its not comparable and you saying that you can condition your opponent and do whatever in traditional combat sport is fucking hilarious cause that's a rarity in fights it happens a good amount to see in the hundreds of thousands of fighting highlights(keyword), but its not the status quo.

[@THENIGHTMAREINC]

Are tournaments going to provide coaches to every player? Because not everyone who plays is sponsored and has someone on the side to correct mistakes. Fighting games can be at least perfectly balanced in real life.

[@tracephage]

That UFC comparison is dumb... chess is indeed a little closer, gotta love how they doubled down on it though, they prolly take it very seriously.

[@AlexPereirasLeftFoot]

Combat sports are a chess game aswell. If you knew anything about them you would understand that. Fighting games mirror combat sports. Why do you think Tekken is like "playing chess" Because Combat sports are aswell. The conditioning example makes no sense because you condition in both. And he left out the latter comment.

[@tracephage]

@@AlexPereirasLeftFoot hahahaha, I was talking in relation to coaching, fighting with your body and hearing your coach during and between rounds isn't the same as someone who'd coach a chess or Tekken player in between games. You didn't even mention the coaching aspect which this video and that comment was about...

[@AlexPereirasLeftFoot]

@@tracephage how are they different

[@tracephage]

​@@AlexPereirasLeftFoot if you knew anything about them you would understand by now.

[@AlexPereirasLeftFoot]

@@tracephage im making the point that they arent different in that aspect. I'm sure youve probably never fought professionally nor have you played chess professionally nor have you played Tekken professionally so you have the sum of 0 experiences trying to tell someone else what they do and what they don't know while you sit in your sweat on your couch eating cheetos and what not. Have fun tho!!!

[@shehrozgnabi462]

Wow i remember in the tekken 7 days when you start player this game and i call you a scrub and look how much have you grown up, Tekken Emperor? You might be able to beat me know. Keep it up

[@TheSidekickking]

Wtf couching do? It cant enhanced your play style overnight 😂. Just words going thru my ears

[@thedude4192]

Respectfully, nothing worse than creators like this who think they are too Hollywood to respond to comments

[@Trinioutsider34]

Nothin is wrong with coaching, the time spent talking needs to be limited.

[@tryingtochangemyways5074]

Coaching shouldn't exist if you can't beat your opponent then you deserve to lose

[@Zenkai.boost.Kekkei.Genkai]

who gives a shit about the pro scene ????

[@brandonlee-ev2dj]

coaching is for weak minded players...imagine evo grand finals set and homeboy runs up to help with coaching advice mid set on stage

[@ravelt101]

damn all sport should ban coaching why stop on fighting game.

[@Gashshiningstar]

Please.... Coaching has been happening for years. They are just acting like this because more money is on the line. Take that L and let it go.

[@luxuriousmindset1906]

Nah Pakistan is the best tekken players remember they never shut up about it but need coaching ban it let them play for themselves lets see how good they really are

[@mfmichi]

This community cries about everything.

[@dmd2652]

Y'all do know that boxing's called the sweet science for a reason the thought that you think physical fighting doesn't involve mind games wow guys wow I love e sports but y'all trpipin y'all trippin😂

[@bekbek5797]

Tekken coaching is just stalling and wasting time. If the player don't know the match-up then that's his problem. It also discourage lone wolves joining the competition. "Why should I join? He got a team, I'm alone so I'm totally fucked up when it comes to strategy."

[@merajislam5987]

Coaching feels lame. Fake comradeship in my opinion.

[@justincha4973]

Banned it

[@xravenx24fe]

Honestly? Yeah. Its unfair. Pros literally coaching other sponsored pros midmatch while lower level players are stuck with less, like a golf amateur who cant buy the top line gear or bring a caddy and the event doesnt provide one.

[@hermanjohnson9180]

Coaching is fine. But within reason. IRL MMA the coach or trainer is yelling tips the whole time.

[@brentthompson1607]

Coaching needs to be abolished. It only benefits the pro players. Think about, when Arslan Ash loses, he gets another top player to coach him. What if you are a nobody who just managed to beat Arslan Ash? Who is going to coach you? It is not a fair practice because coaches have varying levels of expertise in Tekken.

[@Jeneric81]

@@brentthompson1607 …just get a coach?

[@brentthompson1607]

@@Jeneric81 reading comprehension is an important life skill

[@Jeneric81]

@@brentthompson1607 Yes. So is logic: What is preventing anyone from just getting a coach? Absolutely nothing. This is like low baseline stuff in any field where there’s competition.

[@brentthompson1607]

@@Jeneric81 did you not read where I said coaches have varying levels of expertise? I never said it was difficult to get a coach.

[@Userfound7]

Also he said that arslan has access to various different high level players for different characters, a new person can't just walk up to someone for coaching especially if you have a match, granted there are some players that will help if you look like your having a hard time but majority of the time your left alone

[@guuriki1]

There's nothing wrong with coaching at all imo. Tbh, for me personally with my profession in the security industry, no one should be randomly coming up on stage, i cringe everytime i hear a commentator ask, "Who's that on the stage? Oh, that is one of his/her boys. " Imo this needs to be looked at carefully on this part tbh. Why not use head set communication devices? This really isn't that big of a problem that can be fixed simply.

[@Kaze_PL]

Tekken is a one-on-one game, so I don't see the point in anyone giving suggestions during a fight. And if someone needs support and motivation, they can get it before the fight. Tekken is not a sport, so there is no need for coaches. And no, there is no point in adding further provisions to the regulations. Personally, I don't care, but I definitely believe that these types of people should not be present during a fight.

[@Jeneric81]

It’s a competition, so it’s functionally identical to a sport when it comes to coaching.

[@C_H_U_]

I disagree. I believe coaching is phenomenal for players and the game itself, HOWEVER…. Coaching should be exclusive to non-tournament players. This will prevent “player coaches” from clout soaking. Make it happen BandaiNamco.

[@Triforcebro]

Pros shouldn't need coaches in tournaments.

[@jazzoj5]

Yeah because in sports pros don't have coaches, oh wait...

[@zanmato4453]

@@jazzoj5 call it esports all you want tekken is not a sport it's a videogame

[@jazzoj5]

@@zanmato4453 and?

[@Jeneric81]

Michael Jordan shouldn’t need a coach in the playoffs. Jfc….

[@jazzoj5]

@@Jeneric81 😂

[@unchartedrocks1]

Leroy comes up on stage & says, “believe in your heart.” You bet I win every tournament with those words of encouragement.