Workers REVEAL the Truth About Working at Honda

Honda workers in Indiana are organizing to form the company’s first U.S. union. Workers say they want to join UAW because people are “injured almost on a daily basis.” Honda has responded with vicious anti-union attacks. Workers are filing charges with the NLRB.
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[@211teitake]

I'm Japanese and I stand with unionization. In Japan all auto makers are unionized.

[@andresmattos7541]

Read about unit 731.

[@RadKitflix]

@@andresmattos7541 what a deranged reply

[@McDonnellDouglasMD--]

I would just like to ask what does unit 731. Have to do with modern day Honda Because that was in World War II unit 731 happened under a different regime and a different philosophy where the Japanese were more imperial and different ways of thinking Which has no place in a modern day questioning because you’re trying to say look up unit 731 when we are talking about modern day Honda in 2023/2024

[@sabrehawk-427]

Well there a big difference between Japan and the USA over in Japan the workers take pride in there work over here with UAW workers you have people who take pride in there work and people who are just lazy and don't even show up to work and the union protects there jobs when they should be fired this causes the workers who had pride in there work to screw off to Quality go s down

[@211teitake]

@@sabrehawk-427 Maybe that's the case but if there is a known issue, the union contract should address it. There should be a clause that allows workers to be fired for objectively poor performance such as being lazy or unexcused absences. I don't think American contract lawyers, employment law experts, and business management experts are so stupid that they haven't figured out how to write and implement labor contracts to weed out bad workers. I don't necessarily think it's a union issue but a management and labor contract issue.

[@WAL_DC-6B]

As a retired member of the BLE&T (Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers & Trainmen) I wish these Honda workers hoping to form a union all the best.

[@TerreHauteRemoteGoat]

"Unless you are willing to go out and do something about it, it's never going to change." Truth.

[@dvdv8197]

Collectively we bargain, alone we BEG. In solidarity with all Workers and Unions. ❤❤🎉🎉🥳🥳🔥🔥 GO GET IT HONDA! 🙌🙌

[@jimmousseau2765]

😂😂😂😂 It’s the communist way.

[@JohnT.4321]

It is great to see workers are uniting on the economic field. There is power in a union.

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Its a deal with the devil. Just a different flavor of brimstone.

[@j._.taylor]

Commies

[@JohnT.4321]

@@j._.taylor Where?

[@michaelwright1602]

Only if you run the union. The UAW is the worst. Bunch of crooks.

[@ecwilson4088]

You should do a deep dive into staffing agencies, and how they are destroying the working class. As a former middle manager for one and now proud union member, they should all be outlawed.

[@Asigedge]

Absolutely. Theyve also flooded the job market with their fake indeed post etc.

[@UpgradeUrWinRARTrial]

Send them an email with some pointers on where to/who to start looking for, might give them a much-needed jump start

[@tw8464]

Exactly

[@michaelelwell1331]

Temp agent suck I worked for one at around 26 11 bucks a hour line work we would switch every few hours to a different department before I quit after 3 months they had a different temp agency and I said wheres the other one oh we not with them anymore 😂😂😂😂

[@eljoel89]

@@UpgradeUrWinRARTrial Elwood Staffing was the temp agency that staffed for Honda's Greensburg plant.

[@timetowakeup6302]

This is a GREAT channel. I discovered you guys with the video “How Uber Robs It’s Drivers”. You are doing the REAL investigative news journalism that used to be the standard, but sadly is no longer. Bravo to More Perfect Union for having integrity and for being true to the people!

[@truecatholic1]

Unions aren't the best solution. They are controlled "opposition."

[@dvdv8197]

To the genuine, or disingenuous, detractors out there: STOP WITH THE HYPOCRISY THE UNION IS DEMOCRACY ❤️🙌

[@df20001]

Mods: PIN THIS COMMENT.

[@colorless_man7325]

you think us has democracy??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@frankd.506]

The union busting trolls are all over this site every time they post something they're like roaches.

[@colorless_man7325]

@@frankd.506 us has universal health care, that would be troll.

[@flyinpolack6633]

Democracy is 2 wolves & a sheep voting on dinner plans. The United States is a REPUBLIC, not a Dumocracy..

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

I think this amply demonstrates that Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc. have allowed this because they want factories in the US with Chinese labor standards. This might not have been the case initially, but it certainly is the case now, they think they have to do this to be "competitive".

[@markfreeman4727]

not just them, every company nows is trying to see how far they can implement such standards (or lack there of) without being sued

[@CyphDragon]

It's capitalism doing what capitalism does. Costs must be cut to the absolute lowest level. Wages are a cost, benefits are a cost, headcount is a cost, safety standards are a cost. To the beancounters, everything that doesn't directly make money is a cost...well, except for executive "compensation"...and *must* be cut as much as possible. This is what end-stage capitalism looks like.

[@qjtvaddict]

East Asian to be honest it’s not limited to China but you are correct in a way

[@doggytheanarchist7876]

It's not like American labor standards are any better than Chinese labor standards. Don't let this injustice make you xenophobic

[@Handle70770]

There are literally factories that are staffed by 13-year-old children.

[@docternoblex]

Man I really liked Honda, they make great products, but reading and learning about working conditions, and talking to people who worked in Honda and Toyota, man I am so glad to see the push for unionization

[@timetowakeup6302]

Even The quality of both Hondas and Toyotas have begun to slip over the last 10 years. Still good, but not the same as they were in the 90’s and 00’s

[@ryanlittleton5615]

This happens at any non union factory not just Honda but I feel ya. This hurts as a Honda fan.

[@dakotawoodruff2622]

What did you read about the working conditions?

[@codegeassfan4life28]

​@@dakotawoodruff2622same sucks when brands you like don't support basic decency and rights for people. Boycotted Kelloggs, BP Starbucks, McDonald's for their anti union stance adding Honda to my list doesn't hurt me, might hurt their bottom line, just wish more people would do it

[@dakotawoodruff2622]

@codegeassfan4life28 Honda pays $34 an hour on a 3 year pay scale at their factories in Jan. UAW just costed every Temp to lose their job at 3 factories so far. Over 4k people are out of jobs and more are coming. Record profits mean record contracts, which means record layoffs after that. Tell me more about how the UAW cares about those workers who lost their jobs.

[@frankd.506]

File and unionize quickly while you have a friendly NLRB chief and crew, Biden removed Trump's anti-worker NLRB chief and gave us a bill to make it easier to unionize that could all change. Union strong 💪

[@chrisfoxart]

Act now before things flip next year (if at all)

[@jason916]

All about the political power and donations. Only purpose of a union

[@frankd.506]

@@jason916 What do boots taste like?

[@jason916]

@frankd.506 says the guy who can't wait to give a chunk of his pay to a political organization. No one is holding a gun to these peoples heads to work anywhere. Unions DO NOT CARE about thier members only their money

[@jason916]

@frankd.506 oh look the UAW just endorsed the guy trying to kill the auto industry. Keep drinking the kool-aid all the way to the unemployment line

[@jahmez4791]

Feels very similar to Rivian, we have an ambulance out front every other day, not counting anyone leaving injured in their own vehicles.... We believe in you Honda workers.

[@longforgotten4823]

A strong tide raises all vessels. Solidarity with the United auto workers of America. For the unions make our country strong. Power to the workers and power to the union.

[@dvdv8197]

UNION BUSTING SHOULD BE A CRIMINAL OFFENSE!! 😤😤😤😤 UNIONIZE. YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT!! 🎉❤

[@JohnT.4321]

Scabbing a strike should be illegal as well.

[@dvdv8197]

​@@JohnT.4321Absolutely. 👍👏

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@JohnT.4321 so hospital patients should suffer just because whiny staff don't want to work? Do you want patients dying?

[@JohnT.4321]

@@jonathanjones3126 The only person whining is you. Workers in hospitals work a lot and would work circles around you. In that profession, it requires different union tactics that would never harm patients whatsoever. Are you implying that non professional should just walk in and take care of patients?

[@jonathanjones3126]

@JohnT.4321 I work in a hospital, every time I walk through patient areas I see one or more nurses in each pod on their phone goofing off. Meanwhile they refuse to restock their own areas from a nearby supply location. I see nurses and doctors and tech blocking/constricting hallways with random equipment, they also block fire extinguishers. If their ever was a emergency evacuation their would be alot of deaths due to the medical staffs lazy ways. I see that and more on a daily basis at work

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

Good Luck in your union drive. I'm sure you already know that the Department of Labor made a new rule in 2023 that if a corporation is found to be using anti-union tactics then the Department of Labor may recognize the new union automatically.

[@AnthonyAdrianAcker]

UNIONIZE! I worked for USPS for 6 years and left after I was injured. Without the Union I would never have gotten the year of rehabilitation for my shoulder injury caused by the work. UNIONIZE NOW!

[@ryanlittleton5615]

As a Honda fan, UNIONIZE!!! You guys should do videos on Toyota, and also Hyundai/Kia.

[@alohatigers1199]

Workers around the world, unite! ☭ Whether if it’s democrats or republicans, Do not vote for a candidate who is backed by billionaires and/or corporations. Let’s not accept mediocrity (no more voting for the lesser of 2 evils) and let’s start voting for the right candidate who supports workers and not shareholders.

[@coop5329]

I would but I've never seen one of those.

[@dickgoesinya4773]

I like the hammer and sickle

[@yadidimeanmaine]

@@coop5329 His name is Donald Trump.

[@ThriftyCHNR]

He is as corporate as it gets. He wears a working man costume, but he is a privileged white shoe boy@@yadidimeanmaine

[@roguedogx]

Piece of advice to any union organizer listening. A friend of a friend has conveyed that the conditions in the R&D facilities aren't much better. It's to the point where other manufacturers were poaching their best talent just by offering better hours. Basically once the 2 year retention bonus has expired, they bolt. So I'm sure the engineering team would be very interested in what you have to say.

[@notmuchfortalk]

Join a union for sure, but don't just join, pay attention, vote in union elections, and keep that union in line. I worked at a union bus manufacturer and I can attest that not all unions are good for the worker. You have to stay involved.

[@jonathanjones3126]

The uaw president is super wealthy due to its members generous gifts....(dues)

[@asillynertasillynert2204]

@@jonathanjones3126 And the workers are significantly better off. Compare them to non union starting pay of 17-20 and thats low end with long time employees making 33 and having decent benefits. Look over at tesla hmm 10-15 starting pay and upwards cap of 18 and terrible benefits. I am thinking that 1.5% due is providing quite a bit of value.

[@mmmd3429]

Right to work state will always have freeloaders. They will pay zero and reap the benefits.

[@eljoel89]

God, screw that plant. I worked there from 2012 to 2014. They were allowed to keep temporary employees for up to five years without hiring them. About 2/3rds of their workers were temporary. You also had to rotate shifts every two weeks. When they did do full time hiring, they made temps apply to the general hiring pool as well as their own internal pool. They basically drew names out of a hat at random too so they could hire someone with no attendance points left before someone who never missed a day. You had to reapply for full time every six months because they didn't keep records on the hiring pools. We had a guy have a seizure on the line while putting in sunroofs and had to shut the line down.

[@michaelwright1602]

Just like the UAW... I'm in the plants, the UAW is not the answer.

[@JesseB187]

I'm surprised they didn't just roll him off the line and have some offline support step in to that process. Can't afford any downtime!

[@theunknownone5663]

​@@michaelwright1602i work with a guy that had the UAW in his plant. He said they did nothing for them. They where more in bed will the upper management then helping the floor. He also said they screwed them out of everything good.

[@sabrehawk-427]

I work for temp services in past I worked at a plant and busted my ass thinking I would get Hired on two months later they came up to me and said we do not need you anymore goodbye it devastated me after that when it worked for a temp services I was just a warm body there nothing more nothing less temp services shouldn't be allowed to work people for years without hiring them or tell them some timeline the job last they get rich off your hard labor

[@michaelwright1602]

@@theunknownone5663Yes sir, that is how they roll... It can be very devastating for folks to be on the receiving end, bust your ass, go above and beyond... Not how it works.

[@dawnsalois]

REMEMBER HR WILL NEVER TAKE YOUR SIDE. THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE CORPORATION ONLY. NEVER TRUST THEM, AND GET A LAWYER IF YOU NEED TO.

[@stanleysourelis5104]

HR will protect the company, using anything you say against you.

[@rexfranks1159]

Worked in union auto plants, food plants, steel mills, and coal fired and nuclear power plants. And ive made a good living. 62yo now and retired. Ive been blessed.

[@cassiusdhami9215]

"Labour was the first price, the original purchase - money that was paid for all things. It was not by gold or by silver, but by labour, that all wealth of the world was originally purchased." Adam Smith

[@Craxin01]

Greed destroys everything.

[@helenm6732]

Stand up, stand together and don’t back down.

[@dvdv8197]

The current NLRB has to protected at all cost! 🙏🙏

[@dollazNzentz]

Being apart of a union gives YOU a seat at the bargaining table. It gives you a voice.

[@middleagebrotips3454]

From a country where overwork to death (karoushi) is part of the culture.....

[@sabrehawk-427]

Are management should take note and get there head out there a$$

[@donna8243]

Well, this just crossed off Honda from my list of next cars to buy.

[@Undertaker93]

😂 Have fun finding a reliable car then You gotta realize all companies are shady/crap It's human nature

[@noseboop4354]

​@@Undertaker93Buy Mazda, most of their cars are made in Japan by unionized workers, and Consumer Reports puts their reliability very high, right next to Toyota.

[@sabrehawk-427]

And yet you do not see Mazdas from the eighty s and ninety's on the road because they are junk Mazda is not on the same planet as TOYOTA or Honda as far as consumer reports go pay me and I will tell everyone that your product is better than it is that's the American way

[@billseivers3528]

It's unfortunate for Honda that the management allowed the working conditions to deteriorate in these factories to such a degree that the production employees are now pushing for a union as their only means to improve their conditions. I respect them for standing up and attempting to make things better for themselves and future generations of American workers.

[@markrupprnkamp5832]

I hope you folks get a contact that benefits labor on helping making a safer work place with less injuries.

[@missshroom5512]

I hope you get pensions and life long healthcare💙💙💙

[@kingmarx810]

Go Honda workers!

[@charlestreibley9904]

This is the same story at every single work place across the country! Cheaper for the Company to break the laws then to follow them, so..............!

[@rini6]

So glad that the workers see through this and understand what Honda is doing.

[@gardenboots7464]

STANDING WITH the auto workers! Stay strong.

[@JulianVR4]

You know how Delta airlines keeps a union out of the workplace? They actually PAY their mechanics and gives them benefits. Year-end bonuses and profit sharing. Flight benefits. Discounts. Swag. All that stuff.

[@EvenRookiesCanWrench]

Amen

[@sabrehawk-427]

The reason the mechanics get more money and benefits because they are trained to work on air planes and they are in demand if they piss off a mechanic he will back his truck up to the shop and load up his tools and have a job with another airline I bet the pilot makes more than crew to well that is not fare ether after all anyone can fly a airliner

[@SimGunther]

Every car made in the last 15 years got more cameras than an iPhone and you don't get any say on what data is sent either from the car or your phone if you connect it to your car

[@ri3sch]

Democracy in the workplace

[@philrabe910]

My first 'real' job was at a small printing shop that was too small for the giant GAIU to unionize but our employers gave us nearly the same compensation as one of Chicago's large printing outfit.

[@carsonwieker]

Thanks MPU and everyone, important video and progress happening here. All the best, cheers!

[@buggerfiggie8780]

Greed Corrupt and Corporate Welfare leads the work place. UNIONISM

[@mouaem1]

I work in a company and was part of the union for 5+ years. I agree with what the union stands for but sadly many people take advantage of the company with the Union protecting them. The protection from the union and the union contract can result in people having much entitlement without putting in their full effort. Not saying all the workers are this way but it isnt uncommon. This bad work ethic is why unions get a bad reputation. These big companies in turn will start outsourcing all the work they can anywhere else that will do it cheaper and if the opportunity presents itself, they will relocate the entire facility. Honest days work, honest days pay will keep everyone happy.

[@knarf_on_a_bike]

Solidarity!

[@rickhaydan3433]

Unions are as much a part of capitalism as any other piece of the economy. All suppliers get to negotiate prices with Honda So why shouldn't suppliers of labor?

[@Himsofinee]

Makes me sad to hear this, I bought a Honda and I want to support Honda co. But not if they’re mistreating people who help build the vehicles we buy.

[@moosesandmeese969]

We need unions in every industry, and the government needs to make it a right to strike and unionize

[@missshroom5512]

The people need to take action and tell the government not wait for the government..just saying…UNIONIZE 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@smokingjoe9864]

Not me. Unions are another tax. They do nothing. The Owner runs the company. Period. Don't like the job, then quit.

[@frankd.506]

​@@smokingjoe9864Union buster or that severely uninformed?

[@smokingjoe9864]

@@frankd.506 China has the largest union in the world. Unions are communist. I believe in free Capitalism. Let's say you bought a company. Some general labor employees come in and demand satisfaction. Are you going to appease their demands. You own the place. You believe they are treated fairly. I would fire them. At will employment. Those guys knew what the job was when they got hired.

[@smokingjoe9864]

@@frankd.506 let's tell another scenario. You bring your vehicle to the garage. Quoted 700 dollars. Pick up the car and they charge you 850. Why? The employee felt he was worth more. He took the job at an agreed upon rate and conditions. Factories have always been dangerous. You work injured like the rest of us. Take an aspirin. Stitches are common. Factories were for the tough drunken Irishman.

[@azthundercloud]

When i worked at bombardier completions center in arizona, they pretty much ran scared of unionization. They gathered the entire site and pretty much gave us $125 to not vote union. They started laying off and shortly after they shifted production elsewhere.

[@dexterplant778]

Just the fact that any vehicles are being manufactured in the US, by non UAW companies is unconscionable.

[@Johnr37us]

I was with a company for 33 years. Then I retired .Because of the actions of my former company over my last ten years. I can definitely see why workers need a union in todays work force.

[@EvenRookiesCanWrench]

As a Union Rep/Organizer who started as a Rank and File Member. It's all about collective power to make your workplace safer and get the pay/benefits that you deserve.

[@YXUHUNTER]

Good places don't need union.

[@frankd.506]

If there is such a thing it's because of union competitors .

[@user-sw1nv7qz2c]

Unions = restoring human dignity to max

[@dvdv8197]

I'm glad these people generally love (or rather loved) their jobs and are/were PROUD of the product they produce. BUT THAT SHOULD NOT BE HELD AGAINST THEM! Whether they LOVE it, or simply LIKE it, they're ENTITLED to a FAIR, LIVEABLE wage for 40 h/week! Make it happen UAW, do right by every Honda Worker and so many more. ❤🙏

[@hhwippedcream]

Solidarity, brothers and sisters. Hoping for your victory.

[@doggytheanarchist7876]

It's wild how they get away with this obvious abuse of power again and again.

[@f430ferrari5]

Go work for BMW then or Audi or VW or Mercedes. Trash unions. Trash Democrats. Free market. Stop the corruption. If people don’t like the working conditions then QUIT. Go find a better job. Oh that’s right. You all can’t. Victim mentality. Forever victims.

[@user-sw1nv7qz2c]

Unions = restoring human dignity!

[@BraytonHop]

lol its really good actually working at kroger is harder than honda

[@msjodikat]

Love. It. So excited for y’all. Strength in numbers. Union strong ❤️

[@stronklemonade2797]

Union solidarity.

[@jcsrst]

This is the frontline war in America! Workers must take back their power! This is class war and the ONLY way to change business in America! More power to these workers!! I hope and pray that they can do it

[@jonathanmcmillin9713]

i used to work for the Honda Marysville ohio plant and i can tell you that a union is been in dire need for a very long time.

[@justanothertroll9476]

When upper management or managers get aggressive that tells you that they are in fear

[@marcusa.rivera6377]

A union with balls! Strong and aggressive! 💪

[@jgg204]

And it's showing. Honda quality has decline substantially. If Honda Corporate wants their workers to assemble Honda vehicles to the brand's quality reputation specs, Honda Corporate will need to pay its workers a wage where they can afford the very vehicles they are building. When a Honda assembly line worker with 5 yrs of experience can't afford the payments on a 2023 CR-V for their family car, even with the employee purchase program discount, that's a big F'ing problem

[@cosmicinsane516]

You never work for anyone. You should always consider yourself self employed and a business as your customer. You succeed by helping them succeed. When your customers aren’t making money, you find new customers. Never keep a job more than 5 years. Never ever tell your coworkers anything true about yourself or your life. Don’t use a mortgage to buy a house. If you put yourself in debt with large payments now you are always panicked at the thought of having to look elsewhere for work. Also never stop looking for a new job even when you’re happy with your current one.

[@justme6591]

ABVV in Belgium has stood with me for most of my working life, I'm happy I have reps in the factory, nearly everyone is unionized in our factory!

[@Bettinbig7024]

Thanks for posting.

[@twosons5290]

Unions made our country better Anyone wonder why things have gone downhill in the last 30 years? This is one reason!

[@nobaloney10]

Thank you for the good work you do

[@smokingjoe9864]

Lazy and weak workers.

[@b-ryder4324]

What sucks is if these big companies would treat there employees fairly, there would be no need for a union. But they insist on hammering there employees, firing them for a slight mistake so they dont have to give raises. Greed is all it is

[@connied8507]

Unions came into being because of corporate greed. We're in another cycle of greed. Unionize to balance the scales.

[@Pmz604]

The idea of employment protection, income security.. That by working for a company that company is compelled to take care of you until retirement..is false in todays times

[@GangGangBirdGang52]

Honda does have a UAW parts facility in NJ

[@eliladd2355]

thank you for sharing this story

[@larrysmith8397]

I have been a member of UAW Local 1590 for 54 yrs -active and retired. Trust me when I tell you if you get representation that will stand up for you when a manager tries to fire you, just because he can, you will kiss the ground many of us walked on in the picket line. STAND UP

[@geraldhammond2382]

Retired member of the ATU , never regretted for one minute paying those union dues. Union Strong!

[@cylonred8902]

My son works at the Marysville plant - they are treated and paid well. Right out of high school making $19/hr with overtime at least 2 times in the month. He has NO complaints about the conditions...

[@dominique___1980]

Dear Honda -- I am in the market for a hybrid SUV. I saw the documentary on Hyundai (1st or 2nd rated). I will not buy Hyundai because of their anti-union stance. And now Honda is on my DO NOT BUY list, too. #DoNotBuyHonda

[@Tony_904]

USW member here hoping these workers the best!Solidarity!

[@sabrehawk-427]

Will you help when they are unemployed standing in line feeling out forms

[@frankd.506]

@@sabrehawk-427 Check your translator that came out wrong, it has to be cold under a bridge these days .

[@sabrehawk-427]

@@frankd.506 wow that was a good one cold under the bridge I have to remember that one you smart

[@JohnCunningham-sy5ug]

Good luck keep your brothers and sisters together. Workers unionize

[@NewLeftToday]

Solidarity y'all! Stay together despite all the pressure from the boss, and y'all will be able to do it! Go make history, the whole country is behind you!

[@virgilioblanco]

I experienced a workplace joining a labor union, "Productivity" plummeted!!!

[@briankoenig8923]

UAW Local 2075 member here, stand together and vote your conscience.

[@mrroger3rd]

Always going to medical with a work related injury. The company doctor would say you did it at home . Advil and ice . Thank God for the UAW

[@ryanmullins2103]

It’s nice to know we are in this together. I worked at Walmart and as you would imagine It’s the same and it fucking sucks.

[@alberthendricks342]

A very proud moment for these workers and the UAW. Al Hendricks Roofers local #44

[@MrMannyhw]

I am surprise they didn’t get fired for trying to form a union. Usually union formation is very low key.

[@smokingjoe9864]

If you owned a company, would you want some general labor employee telling you how to run Your Company. I seen it before in the 70s and 80s. Price yourself out of work. Honda will just go back to the Far East.

[@frankd.506]

Ok so you are a union buster,sad theres still people like you stabbing people in the back for a few bucks, not for nothing but unemployment is at record lows you can find other employment.

[@user-sw1nv7qz2c]

Disinformation

[@keithela1067]

Special thanks to the folks in this video who have risked their employment. We don't know what is going on in these factories until some folks speak up. Leaves a bad taste to think that I thought Honda and Toyota were 'good' companies.

[@MissyMuthaTruckiN]

Honda= "Oh hai, OSHA, Here's your safety check, settled out of court, see ya next week!" People have died in there and bodies not been found, welding areas....

[@raymondeddy3733]

Bunch of lying bullshiters on here.

[@ceremyjlarkson9475]

I have always loved Honda's automobiles, but their modern factory culture is not only making their vehicles worse but it is cutting into the worker's abilities. I hope they get everything they want from this and get themselves a union, they deserve it. Hopefully Honda will return to being a car maker I can purchase from and know my money goes to the right people.

[@MrHeavy466]

Private unions _can_ be a wonderful resource to stop abuse and keep management accountable. I hope the union doesn’t succumb to corruption.

[@matthewsaxe6383]

Workers need to have a voice

[@generator6946]

Unionize America

[@benitojr468]

Nissan of Canton, held a union vote. The vote was No

[@wiegraf9009]

All the best to the workers from Canada!

[@NoName-ik2du]

I had no idea there were _any_ automotive plants in the U.S. that weren't union (barring maybe some new startups). I used to work at a UAW plant, and the union did make it suck. But the union also resulted in shockingly high pay for very little work. I find it odd that supervisors at Honda are pushing back against unionization. Being a supervisor in a union is a perk, too. Your pay goes up because your employees' pay goes up. Your job is easier because there is a distinct set of rules that _everyone_ has to follow, and if an employee complains about the rules, you just direct them to their union rep. _And_ you aren't allowed to do any work yourself; you are _only_ allowed to _direct_ employees. The rigidness of everything is what makes it suck (no matter if you're in the union or a supervisor), but you can also make a good living for very little work (if you're into that sort of thing). Unions are a requirement because corporations are evil. Don't be evil, and your plant won't be turned into a hopelessly inefficient money pit by people who are tired of being abused and put in harm's way. Pretty simple.

[@JohnnyD1993]

Cool it with that disinformation. Manufacturing work pays shockingly high for very little work?

[@NoName-ik2du]

@@JohnnyD1993 You've obviously never been in a (good) union or didn't bother to read my comment. There's a reason for the stereotype that union workers are lazy. In my department at that job, not a single worker worked beyond 50% capacity. That means every worker had *four hours* of downtime throughout the day, every day. People had secret beds and card rooms set up around the plant because they had so much idle time. Workers there were also paid about $24/hour (in 2014) when non-union shops were making about $15/hour for the same work, not to mention the annual profit sharing bonuses that were thousands of extra dollars each year on top of the regular pay. Shockingly high pay for very little work is the only way to describe that job.

[@JohnnyD1993]

@@NoName-ik2du so far we've learned - Unions defend bad workers that deliberately hurt the company - Workers are allowed to do fuck all for half of their shift - Supervisors become individuals that demand respect, not earn it - The pay is shockingly good compared to the competition for the _expected_ workload What else would you like to add to your list?

[@NoName-ik2du]

@@JohnnyD1993 Points 1,2, and 4 are correct and pretty much sum everything up. Point 3 is not. Union supervisors do not demand respect. What I said is they also have less to do in a union, so it makes their jobs easier as well. You may notice that all of these points are _in favor_ of a union.

[@stevenhenry5267]

That newscaster from Channel 4 openly sided with the auto companies repeatedly.

[@ellwoodwolf]

It’s Honda. They are the type of company that research old feudal maps of neighborhoods to exclude people from positions.

[@ritaperdue]

Power to the people!!!!

[@RealAnthonyJones]

Living in a red state but wanting a union. Good luck.

[@turbolegend3976]

Union is good AND necessary only when used responsibly!