WHAT HAPPENED To The 2016 NBA Draft?

[@ccramit]

I cannot believe the Celtics held Pick #3 for two years in a row and left with arguably the best players in both drafts. Crazy.

[@ajbaltazar8809]

Picks originally From Brooklyn

[@redriderbbgun8018]

Yeah, for once, the nba gods dealt with the Celtics favorably 🎉

[@AirIsGood4UAll]

@@redriderbbgun8018 for once?

[@ccramit]

Unlike my Bruins who had 3 consecutive picks in the first round and pretty much wasted them on a decent Top 6 winger and 2 guys who barely have any NHL experience since 2015.

[@plusnightlife]

it's not arguable, they absolutely are the best two players

[@bandjolyn]

Picking up Murray to play with Jokic was the absolute perfect pick for Denver man. And the moves since then have been prefect. Just beautiful roster construction for that run.

[@procastination_is_my_passi4182]

Such a perfect duo not even just in terms of their amazing skills, but also their lack of ego, their mutual support and also their natural chemistry!

[@Shortballa11]

the Sabonis story is crazy. Tells you how much impact being on the right team can have to your career.

[@mrvk39]

also speaks to how talented scouting is on OKC. They are amazing and seeing potential in young players others dont

[@spidamitchell8311]

I liked him as a rookie when he played well in a loss vs the spurs and he’s improved since then 😊

[@djLagwayEnjoyer]

@@mrvk39most scouts are actually very good at their job. The reason why most of these “busts” go so high, is because owners, GM’s, and coaches will override or flat out ignore the scouts recommended picks for their own bias or whoever their heart gets set on. Also, some franchises will allow fan opinion to influence their pick too.

[@djLagwayEnjoyer]

@@mrvk39if you notice the really great development teams/orgs, their front office, coaches, GM, and owner are all on the same exact page.

[@mrvk39]

@@djLagwayEnjoyer you might be right! I've never been inside an NBA board room to know what owners and GMs do, but I suspect they DO veto and approve some key decisions - definitely big FA signings and big trades but also maybe lottery picks too. Generally, if an owner micromanages to a point he selects draft picks, the Franchise is in trouble.

[@shewannawithout]

Kris Dunn looks like he could become one of the most surprising career revivals of all time honestly. From a virtually a whole season out of the NBA and in the G-League to looking borderline elite in a short stint with Utah and following it up just this week in preseason

[@therealneal3034]

I'm still in awe that the Wolves could have had a lineup of Dunn (who's been decent to good in Utah), Lavine, Wiggins, Lauri, and KAT but traded it for one year of Jimmy Butler.

[@Shortballa11]

that wouldnt work out. There was no alpha dog with Lavine, Wiggins, and KAT. And Lauri needed opportunity to breakout. In Chicago and Cleveland he couldnt find his rhythm. Dunn is a great defender bt at most he is a back up guard in the league. At least Jimmy got them to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years.

[@Homdom2332]

Thank you for reminding me Dunn was in Utah 😭 soon as he started talking about him I started to go to google. Shits tragic

[@kevinlove9191]

😮

[@JimBob-jr5up]

Wouldnt matter. Give the wolves all the talent in the wotld, theyre FO on down is broken.

[@therealneal3034]

@@Shortballa11 if Jimmy had stayed longer than one year, it might have been worth it.

[@Kamanchuisdabomb]

Man... Suns had such a rough stretch drafting: Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Alex Len

[@moresportinglogically4420]

Brutal for sure

[@reimeralgabre2986]

Although Kings are better now. Their draft in the past 10-15 years makes me wanna cry even tho im not a kings fan.

[@spidamitchell8311]

@@reimeralgabre2986kings was next level

[@redriderbbgun8018]

Don't forget Marquese Chriss! 😂

[@danielshaltes911]

How DARE you pass over the man, the myth, the legend Georgios Papagiannis? Do you know what it feels like to have your favorite team use a lottery pick on Georgios Papagiannis? I do. I was there, Gandalf.

[@NotGord]

The dude has giannis in his name hes gotta be good

[@renzocabarco472]

Who should we draft with our star player being arguably the best big man in the league at the time and a year after Cauley-Stein? Yes definitely another center, who wouldn't even play over actual productive minute soaker Kosta Koufos gdi Sac

[@cutc2k764]

with yo Lame ass

[@Mochajay95]

The fact that the Kris Dunn highlight was the same play over and over again, proves that he is what we thought he was.😢

[@Skinslyfe]

Buddy he’s been great on the jazz do you even watch the nba?

[@M_murph19]

Even though it would take a lot longer, I think it would be cool for you to cover those mid first rounders even if they never panned out

[@moresportinglogically4420]

Good to know! I try to balance video length with which players to cover

[@Ray-Electronica]

Cant call Fred Vanfleet borderline all star caliber player if he was a actual all star in 2022

[@allthingsfitness3957]

Likely called him borderline because that’s how he was this past season at best

[@fablez]

and he was an injure reserve all-star. i’d say it’s fairly borderline

[@滋榎本]

I used to really believe that Ben Simmons could be the successor to Magic Johnson and LeBron James.

[@beankobe8205]

Facts

[@dylangeller4692]

He could’ve been. He had the talent and probably still does. It’s his mentality. He doesn’t care and is a p****

[@TarkiTark]

That’s fair tho he had and still has a chance to show it but I had the same expectations when we were drafting him

[@beankobe8205]

@@TarkiTark just had back surgery tho

[@TarkiTark]

@@beankobe8205 we’ll see I hope he improves from the last couple of years I thought he could really be a generational talent

[@MrAgosek]

Jump Shot 7/10 is crazy for Ben Simmons lol

[@twoface9959]

I’m not going to lie, as a Bulls fan, I wanted Kris Dunn badly, in the draft year before, and hoped he slipped down to the Bulls to draft as a backup PG/future successor to Derrick Rose. However, he went back to Providence for his junior year, and ended up being drafted higher (rightfully so), but seeing him play for the Timberwolves and my Bulls, I was quickly disappointed with Dunn’s play.

[@BookJay35]

The nuggets got Murray with the pick swap from the Melo trade with the Knicks crazy how things worked out

[@petermuchiri6631]

Did you really say 'you could argue the Nuggets do not win the 2022 title without Murray'? Man! There is absolutely no way they win without him. I remember how he made crucial baskets against the Lakers in the WCF.

[@oscirusjones3862]

i remember dragen bender, he was being called croatian porzingis

[@Desolateinfinity]

As a Suns fan, Dragan Bender and Josh Jackson have fused into one player in my mind. It feels like we drafted Josh Jackson two years in a row, one pick behind the Celtics at #4 both years.

[@lechinny]

the top 4 picks were identical both years, thats crazy

[@luny2nez281]

I remember when Ingram averaged 27ppg after the all star break the year both him and LeBron was in LA. That was when I knew Ingram was gonna take the next step on another team

[@tnk4me4]

The trade with Poetl to San Antonio fundamentally changed how I evaluated trades. Everyone was in the mindset that the trade was Kawhi for Demar but a friend of mine said "You can actually tell how badly the raptors robbed the spurs because based off playoff production Demar and Danny Green are really close together so this trade is actually Kawhi for Poetl" Blew my frickin mind at the time

[@CykoruKun]

Ben Simmons really had 7/10 assessment for jump shot at his scouting card which was the same level as Malcolm Brogdon LOL

[@siimtokke3461]

And Jaylen Brown is an NBA Champ with Finals MVP.

[@marleylevins8852]

Love these draft videos

[@cche16]

masai loves a tall, lanky, athletic african and it worked out. pascal didn't start playing basketball until he was 16 in cameroon. he left home young and took basketball seriously since his dad was a huge fan and it was his dream to see him make it. sadly, he died so pascal worked hard to make it to the nba. the raptors development team is one of the best. pascal, van vleet, barnes, og, poetl, etc. all became starting players/all stars after dominating/winning in the g-league.

[@swishboy]

Remember when Thon Maker is the next MVP? Lol

[@ClareAmel]

Without Murray, the Nuggets lose in the WCF if they even make it there. To think a pick swap from 9 to 7 was that consequential.

[@cyclingpanda1]

I would've thought as a nets fan you would've mentioned caris lavert's journey.

[@amybenzaquen7417]

Domantas sabonis’s career is so weird

[@richard6200]

not really, because his years in OKC was already pretty good its just he wasn't the main guy thats why.. he slowly establish himself in IND and was an all star & alot just started to notice him last year

[@RoarkMilenthal]

bro did yall realize that buddy hield got like a full diploma

[@thezackast2752]

How does a guy named Dragan Bender not be great. Didnt you listen? HE BENDS DRAGONS

[@DeJohnTheSinger]

Justice Young getting drafted in the second round was a complete steal #orangejuice

[@TheMarkoSeke]

Kris Dunn is back in the league and playing really well!

[@arttunieminen4583]

How was BEN SIMMONS jumper rated as a 7💀

[@Miguel_0011Z]

Missed a few notable players between Sabonis and Siakam

[@M_murph19]

Watch out for Dunn this year in Utah, he finished the year great last season

[@BeyondthePlay2025]

Pascal is easily the best player to come out of this draft.

[@akz2628]

He is but it’s very debatable

[@brotherog8490]

Nah blud, JB all NBA.

[@BeyondthePlay2025]

@@brotherog8490 you know pascal is 2x All NBA right?

[@masonpower9544]

@@brotherog8490damn no ring or left hand tho

[@dark8prince201]

Jaylen Brown 7

[@thomasworldpeaceiii425]

As a 76ers fan I was hoping they would’ve got Ingram

[@noaimgn737]

Ingram looked great besides lebron, especially post all star break

[@havok2111]

“They can’t all be winners, kid.”

[@sazgreen5463]

after pre season games ben simmons has been looking pretty decent like 80 percent of what he was

[@tonylabrusca6602]

Weird that we still call people young who was drafted in 2016 lol

[@lucian6857]

celtics coach didn't gave a chance to yabusele when all his teamates praised him, now he play real madrid, he is not bad as a lot of players of this draft that u describe as

[@bryceyoungenthusiast]

Raptors got siakam poeltl and vanvleet lol without them they wouldn’t have won in 2019

[@christiandiaz4769]

Bro said Terry rozier was bad

[@SlapSoCold]

Right lol

[@ethanreese5338]

Need a 2012 version fr

[@moresportinglogically4420]

Working on that one now!

[@TylerUsher-jz4mj]

I believe this changed when I started playing NBA 2k 2016

[@TylerUsher-jz4mj]

LoL but thats something else

[@saul-goodman]

To clarify, Simmons missed the first half of the season due to injury, and the second half of the season due to a desire to win ROTY. They should’ve been a red flag for his work ethic.

[@hobo3860]

ben simmons now🌝

[@kcaghanenu1203]

An ignored factor of this draft was, it was one of the most international drafts ever player wise so I think with the rise of someone like Porziņģis at the time a lot of teachers were trying to bank on international prospects they just failed at it.

[@jacob9538]

The NBA commissioner is not a human being.

[@MrBeastjebuz]

??

[@saulpineda5539]

Jamal goin #1 in a redraft

[@redriderbbgun8018]

Maybe, maybe not. JB is a 2-way beast...you can't say that about Murray. But I will say that Murray is an absolute assassin on offense with nerves of steel in close games. They're both ballers and would equally deserve to go #1

[@cplflake]

You could argue the nuggets wouldn’t have won the title without their second best player? Fire take

[@Obi482]

Idk man. Murray was fucking crazy last finals. In games he needed to be there he exploded

[@cplflake]

@@Obi482 that’s what I’m saying, it was sarcasm

[@Obi482]

@@cplflake I was probably high asf reading this my b lol

[@dyl1068]

Could we see a What happened to the 2014 NBA draft?

[@iannoble]

Ben Simmons was NOT consensus #1 it was between him and Ingram.

[@kingjack7108]

Forgot to mention vanvleet winning a chip in 2019

[@FixtionFolk]

No way u said buddy heilds senior college season was just “good” he was literally getting curry comparisons

[@moralesglitxhh27]

bubble boy would go #1 in a redraft

[@jggonzalez6299]

Ben might be the biggest waste of talent I’ve seen in a while

[@therealneal3034]

I think he'll bounce back to at least being productive. He won't be an All-Star again, but he'll at least average an efficient triple single. Although his reputation won't ever be the same and he'll be regarded as a sad NBA story.

[@jggonzalez6299]

@@therealneal3034 I honestly don’t have any faith he even cares enough anymore

[@therealneal3034]

@@jggonzalez6299 of course. I said what I said with the assumption that he does. Based off Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson’s interviews on podcast when asked about it.

[@fscorpion678]

i don’t even watch basketball like that

[@UnCharlie]

Womp womp JB goes 3 still

[@wolfdrayvus101]

Murray dropped due to “character concerns”

[@tomwatson1]

The sixers didn’t have a chance because of Simmons.

[@leeartlee915]

Of course the Blazers didn’t have a pick in this draft…

[@HadYTtoolong]

How is Jalen Brown already 27 but his birthday is 10.24.23…

[@PantherProdz]

Ben Simmons would be a mvp in the 80-90

[@nickbh15]

Easily argue that they don’t win the chip without Murray? Lol what? That’s an objective FACT..that literally didn’t do shit in the post season until Murray was healthy and able to play

[@mrvk39]

This is such a forgettable draft. There are a few all-stars but no superstar and every player, even a successful one is disappointing in some way. Like Simmons never developing an outside shot, Brown never developing a handle and a killer instinct, Ingran never fully healthy for long, Siakam kind of disappearing.

[@kidmagineer]

Ben Simmons is not an All-NBA

[@WalterTurnerBBB]

Surprised you think that Jaylen Brown goes #1 in the redraft. Feel like brown is great, but probably the 2nd choice with Brandon Ingram a more likely #1 who would have fit with Philly really well and would have had a few years to grow same as previous situation

[@NGUI13.]

I think a case for J Murray at #1 can be made

[@WalterTurnerBBB]

Agreed, and if this was 2 years ago, people would be saying that Siakam has a case for that #1 pick@@NGUI13.

[@tim.noonan]

Murray > Ingram, and probably Brown too tbh

[@saviorofs0ng]

some unmentioned decent role players in Taurean Prince, Malik Beasley, Levert (who was balling before his injury), second rounders like Brogdon and Zubac and ofc superstar Pat McCaw lol nah but yea pretty weak draft in terms of overall accolades considering Brogdon won ROTY with not-so-stellar numbers and not too many perennial all-NBA or all-stars so far. Most of the guys that are still around are about to hit their primes tho

[@Ellsgab]

Brick Simmons isn’t a bust yet?

[@jontos1441]

Pascal the only multiple time all nba in this class. Should be no 1 in a redraft

[@mindofball19]

i hate that nobody ever actually reviews a draft class. just like 17 players lmao

[@silent229]

i remember this draft. it was a awful draft class

[@spidamitchell8311]

Simmons 3 Ingram 1 Brown 3 Siakam 2 Sabonis 3(4) Murray 1 Number of all stars And Jamal Murray and poetel are solid

[@kayydubb232]

3:06-3:32 IS FACTS!! #252

[@rysupastar718]

Thon Maker got famous again due to Gilas Pilipinas-Australian Boomers Brawl

[@slaugmromni6743]

It’s very strange to ask what happened to an event. Events happen, but do things happen _to_ them? What happened to the 1999 World Series? Or the Tet Offensive? Or the Haitian Slave Revolt? See how these questions don’t really make sense?

[@leeartlee915]

I don’t care if Denver won a title. I will always hate Murray.

[@SlapSoCold]

Cuz You goofy

[@Lanatus]

Even with Brown as good as he is, he is still isn’t worthy of a 3 pick.

[@monsterdragondeluxe]

Oof, the Simmons thing is aging like milk. If you think about it, the 6ers have some horrible draft picks. I mean, Embiid fcking sucks outside the normal season, in witch he is absolutely amazing. Simmons is going to be a sour taste in the mouth of 6ers fans, Noel is a bust. Okafor mega bust, Fultz was useless for the 6ers....i think the process failed massively. Maybe I am wrong, but it is starting to feel about it.

[@BIRDLANDSPORTSZONE]

Ben Simmons is a complete bust. He's up there with kwame Brown

[@Reynolds69er]

He won playoff series’ as the second best player on a team, is a multi time all star and all defensive player. He is no way a bust at all, a disappointment sure but only because he had such a good start to his career

[@23lacross]

I mean he's a 3 time All-Star, 2 time first team all-defense and was third team all-NBA. That's more accolades than a lot of number 1 overall picks.

[@drewtobia]

i wish kris dun was good

[@PlayersUnlimited]

Like This If Jaylen Brown Is Currently The Best Player In The 2016 NBA Draft!

[@richard6200]

siakam & sabonis are better

[@FleeceGonzalez]

This draft ain’t age well at all

[@mindofball19]

like it or not i’m still taking Ben Simmons over Brandon Ingram

[@Lanatus]

Simmons is a point guard that can’t shoot. Or learn to shoot.

[@chad_b]

I think you mean future fraud mvp ebiid

[@marsspacex6065]

Ben Simmons is a bust.

[@robertmcnally2220]

Simmons is a bust

[@AlegendArises]

He’s still a multiple time all star, made the all defensive team and was a dpoy candidate. He made an all nba team too, definitely underwhelming but not a bust

[@Echo-qd4wn]

Because he can't shoot as a 6'11 point guard? I guess it's a shooting big men all matters in this era, no wondered why Ben still ridecule to this day.

[@joinergreatz3029]

1. Brown 2. J.Murray 3. Sabonis 4 Ingram 5 Siakam

[@jontos1441]

Are you kidding ? Siakam 2x all star 2x all nba 1x Champion Other 4 Brown 2x all star 1x all nba no rings Murray 0x all star 0x all nba 1 ring Ingram 1x all star 0x all nba 0 rings Sabonis 3x all star 1x all nba 0 rings While I could understand an argument that he is below sabonis and at a stretch brown, the other two are a joke bro

[@davidolajide3707]

Siakam number one easy

[@LeGoatJamesOfAll]

@@jontos1441siakam is not the better player but he does have the best career

[@IHateMaL]

Ngl i thought Brandon Ingram was drafted before 2016. In such s casual

[@taekobain]

@bsolz

[@TheMarkoSeke]

Kris Dunn is back in the league and playing really well!