Can’t believe you forgot when the Magic traded Luke Ridnour to the Grizzlies for Janis Timma. It was arguably the most important trade in NBA history
@moresportinglogically4420 Жыл бұрын
My fault
@Quietcomet Жыл бұрын
So true it’s probably the worst trade for one team and the best for another!
@laceup62 Жыл бұрын
As my man from the broadcast boys would say "WHO?" 😂
@boydriceisawesome2520 Жыл бұрын
Who?
@anthonysloan2620 Жыл бұрын
@@laceup62that's what I'm screaming
@SonnyK248 Жыл бұрын
OKC trade timeline 2008- with the 24th pick the OKC Thunder select Serge Ibaka 2016- Serge Ibaka is traded for Victor Oladipo and Damontis Sabonis 2017- Oladipo and Sabonis are traded to Indiana for Paul George 2019- PG is traded for Shai Gilgeous-Alaxander, Danilo Gallinari and five first round picks and two pick swaps that have so far become Tre Mann and Jalen Williams 2020- Gallinari is traded to Atlanta for a second round pick So essentially the 24th pick became SGA, Jalen Williams, Tre Mann, three first round picks, two pick swaps and a second round pick. Not a bad price 😂
@verymadhatter Жыл бұрын
That pick also goes way further back. Royce Young did a video on the entire history of that pick thats pretty interesting. it started out with the Rashard Lewis trade in Seattle when Sam Presti first got hired on.
@dubbyu4286 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that PG trade lead them to get Halliburton
@hotpot3283 ай бұрын
Damontis Sabonis
@hotpot3283 ай бұрын
Shai Gilgeous - Alaxander
@ivaneurope Жыл бұрын
I'd like to point out is that Jayson Tatum was not picked with the Brooklyn pick. That was the 1st overall pick (which turned out Markelle Fultz), which the Celtics traded to Philadelphia, who got the 3rd pick in a pick swap with the Sacramento Kings (who received the 5th overall pick - De'Araon Fox). Boston didn't own the 2017 Nets pick per sé, but Boston invoked the pick swap that came in as part of the KG+Pierce deal. Brooklyn got the 27th pick, which Brooklyn used to select Kyle Kuzma, who was traded to the Lakers along with Brook Lopez for Timofey Mozgov (basically a salary dump) and DLo. DLo was later used in the KD sign-and-trade, who was later converted into Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and multiple 1st round picks. Speaking of the KG+Pierce trade masterpiece from Billy King, this trade is the reason why Brooklyn has Ben Simmons as well. Jarrett Allen, who was used in the James Jarden trade from Houston, was acquired using pieces that can trace their origins in the KG+Pierce trade. And this trade is indirectly linked to other trades - including the Russell Westbrook trade to the Lakers (via Kyle Kuzma) and the return of DLo in purple and gold. Speaking of Mikal Bridges - the pick he was selected was originally the Lakers' own, used in the trade for Steve Nash, later traded to Philadelphia who traded him on draft night after selecting him back to Phoenix and ended up in Brooklyn. Which means that the Nash experiment in LA is another indirectly linked to the KG+Pierce trade. Basically the KG+Pierce trade shaped up the future of many NBA franchises
@DEADBEATDAD333 Жыл бұрын
Damn bro I need you commenting on every NBA video, love this breakdown
@Iceman-gs2xf Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown man
@Garnachogoat Жыл бұрын
Insane
@verward Жыл бұрын
I want everyone to pause for a moment and realise the 76ers could have drafted JT and Mikal bridges. That would have been a monster lineup. The playoffs where Ben Simmons had his melt down, is also the playoffs where JT dropped 50 on the nets to drag his team to a win. That team could have won the chip that year.
@bytgfdsw2 Жыл бұрын
The Monta Ellis-Andrew Bogut trade should also be mentioned. It allowed Steph Curry to be no 1 on the team and gave Klay the opportunity for more minutes. Bogut as a passing big really helped the development of Draymond, and without the trade these three probably wouldn’t have developed the way they did
@saul-goodman Жыл бұрын
Kyle Lowry to Toronto for the 12th pick in the 2013 draft is an oft forgotten trade that had a butterfly effect on the league as a whole. Houston later traded that pick in the Harden deal, and OKC used it to draft Steven Adams. Nobody could've predicted 26 year old Lowry would emerge into the GOAT Raptor, nor could anyone have foreseen the growth of James Harden. That Lowry trade is so underrated and I see nothing but a win-win scenario for everyone involved in the chain of events that transpired during that wild offseason. That's the same offseason the Warriors got Iggy. It's also the year Milwaukee stole Giannis in the draft. In addition, it's the same offseason that Brooklyn made the Pierce and KG move. The more you really think about it, the 2013 offseason seems like one of the most eventful in NBA history, and at the time it was a bad draft and a weak free agency class. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. Thank you to anyone who read my tangent lol.
@perrywang689 Жыл бұрын
Mind blowing thing. Nothing that significant with the Clippers tho
@saul-goodman Жыл бұрын
@@perrywang689 Good thing I'm not a Clippers fan then lol. That was the summer they picked up JJ Redick who would become a staple of their most successful era in franchise history, so not nothing significant, just not Giannis, Lowry, Billy King levels of noteworthy
@perrywang689 Жыл бұрын
@@saul-goodman yeah JJ Redick was important but not on that scale u r right tho haha
@sconartist Жыл бұрын
Thank you Danny for fleecing Brooklyn allowing the Celts to transition from one era to the next!
@brooksandreason3416 Жыл бұрын
As a jazz fan I sure do love danny
@MrBubblecake Жыл бұрын
Yeah such an era it’s been for the Celtics Constant choke jobs in every playoffs 😂
@lydiac5374 Жыл бұрын
So what !!! Celtics never got a champion with these core
@Foodmachine_official Жыл бұрын
Carmelo talked about leaving Denver on "all the smoke". He said he never wanted to leave Denver but they were rather trying to rebuild than to build a contending team around him and that's why he left.
@ou8428 Жыл бұрын
It's revisionist history on his part to make himself look better. He was NEVER a good enough player to compete for championships. Impressive regular season stats but pretty empty come playoff time. An old Chauncy Billups was better as a playoff leader and contending piece than Mr. Jabstep.
@reimixo Жыл бұрын
@@ou8428 not really because that´s not what he said, he said that the yeam instead of building upon what they did in 09, they wanted to rebuild, going the opposite way they should be going, so he decided to leave
@aidanelder823 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how serge Ibaka basically turned into all of the assets to start OKCs rebuild
@johnl8634 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the Dwight trade happened, the next day, my friends and I made the Lakers super team on 2k12 and we playing with them. We were certain this was the team to end all teams lol.
@devontekuykendall3565 Жыл бұрын
The Jrue holiday trade was the first big trade of the 20s
@KindJoey7118 ай бұрын
What a ridiculous thing to say
@jordylont1879 Жыл бұрын
That Hornets situation is still such bullshit
@RE1GN_BLOOD Жыл бұрын
It really is pretty remarkable how much Kevin Love did change by going to Cleveland. With the Wolves he was a force only to soon become a slimmer, sleeker version of himself who though getting a chip didn’t create the legacy I at least thought he would for himself.
@moopert86 Жыл бұрын
The Melo trade was so crazy for the Knicks. They could have gotten him for no draft capital the next offseason, but they gave up a lot to get the dude. With that added depth and picks they may have been better suited to compete while he was there.
@therealneal3034 Жыл бұрын
I'm still convinced that the Paul George era in OKC would have gone a lot better if Andre Roberson's knee didn't explode.
@EzMoneyMir Жыл бұрын
Facts
@JimBob-jr5up Жыл бұрын
Of course. His OPPG -18 when in the starting line up would have gotten us to the 2nd round. But thats it i think. Those teams issues was Russ is simply not the guy to lead a team in the POs. A better and more interesting What If?, IMO, is; What if Presti knew he could not trade CP3 and we had to compete in 2020, so he also never traded Grant? That bubble year, barely lost to tge Rockets.... i dunno.... add J Grants defense and make him an option at the 4 and we might have made the WCFs.
@therealneal3034 Жыл бұрын
@@JimBob-jr5up idk man, Roberson's injury took OKC from the #1 defense to barely Top 10. He'd also have been the one guarding Mitchell and Lillard in both first round exits.
@reimixo Жыл бұрын
@@therealneal3034PG is still one of the top 5 perimeter defenders at that time.... it would not matter much...
@therealneal3034 Жыл бұрын
@@reimixo I mean, dropping 8-9 spots in defensive ranking cuz of one guy kinda says otherwise.
@SP.007 Жыл бұрын
The Jermaine O'Neal/Shawn Marion trade in Feb 2009, is what allowed 2010s to unfold the way that it did. Marion Had an expiring contract that Bryan Colangelo wanted, and he gave up a first rounder to get it. O'Neal had an extra year on his deal, which was more valuable when you think about the 2010 Free Agent Class. Colangelo used the money to outbid the Blazers for Hedo Turkoglu that year. Pat Riley, waited one year, returned the draft pick to the Raptors in a S&T for Bosh. Then they S&T for LeBron. and the Big Three Era kicked off the 2010s.
@Mr.StevenKerr Жыл бұрын
The Paul to the Lakwrs trade should have led to lawsuits, and Stern being removed. Way overstepped, he couldn't possibly be objective when he had all the owners in his ear and he works for them.
@RealTomahawk7 Жыл бұрын
1:43 I should mention this little bit that at the time, the Knicks were in a bidding war with the then-New Jersey Nets. The Knicks feared they wouldn't have the chance to get Melo had the Nets trade with the Nuggets and Pistons went through. Doubly so, as the Nets were soon to relocate. So yes, while it's easy to look back and say they should've waited, I understand why the Knicks were hasty to pull the trigger. At least with the draft picks, we can say Murray was the only true "hit" out of all of them. It sucks, but at least the Knicks are on the right track now.
@christophertapia1613 Жыл бұрын
i dont know if your from NY or not, but i am. This trade happened because the new cba was coming into affect that summer, in which contracts were going to be smaller if im not mistaken. Carmelo did not want that, and advised the knicks, that if they dont trade for him, he would go to the nets. Carmelo basically force NYK hand to make such a move, to please him. that is why i dont like carmelo, always has been, and will always be selfish.
@RealTomahawk7 Жыл бұрын
@@christophertapia1613 I am. All I remember from that 2011 CBA was the lockout that preceded it. So, they might have been smaller, but I can't be certain of that. It also didn't help that Melo was supposed to be the big free agent in 2011, after he refused to sign an extension in Denver. Somebody else mentioned in another video, that most of that Nuggets team were also heading into contract years, and Melo didn't want to be a part of a potential long rebuild. Melo also wanted to come home, and with the Nets set to move to Brooklyn, which was also kind of a homecoming for him, it's rational to believe that he would've signed long term with the Nets. Either way, both the Knicks and Melo lost out in this scenario.
@pogpodcasts3090 Жыл бұрын
Really good video idea please do more like this
@moresportinglogically4420 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@pzooka10 ай бұрын
2010’s was such a fun time to be an NBA fan. NBA on TNT cast was at their peak, the league was still offensively balanced and hadn’t fully shifted to the 3 point era yet, and man come on GAME OF ZONES need I say more?
@ImKarl Жыл бұрын
The Knicks definitely fumbled when they traded half of their core for Anthony who was actually going to sign with them anyway.
@GoBoSox2011 ай бұрын
As a celtics fan, that trade was the GREATEST trade in NBA history. Thank you DA.
@FullAntics Жыл бұрын
Love this channel . More similar vids to this one 🔥🔥🔥
@moresportinglogically4420 Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@John.Asante Жыл бұрын
You seem to miss that Jimmy wanted to stay in Philly but they didn't want to pay him
@AaronA_Aaronson0 Жыл бұрын
They thought his fit with Simmons wasnt as good as Tobias Harris, so they let him go.
@Antisxy Жыл бұрын
i respect the amount of lillard b-roll lol
@mackenzielabar1982 Жыл бұрын
Lovin these videos. Great stuff.
@moresportinglogically4420 Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@matthewscanlan8001 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@moresportinglogically4420 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@CiroxObama215 ай бұрын
NBA script seeming more and more realistic the more I watch these videos lol
@sonnyyang5167 Жыл бұрын
The initial trade for CP3 included Pau Gasol. That trade was way better than the Clippers’ trade.
@duffal0 Жыл бұрын
Thanks PG for leaving and giving us Shai and JDub🔥
@TTJJCC11 ай бұрын
The fact the league stepped in saying the Lakers Lakers didn't give up enough Chris Paul but trading Paul for a lesser package still makes no sense. Also, the Lakers were giving up a starter and their 6th man Odom in the deal.
@TheRealMRGG85 Жыл бұрын
As a Boston Celtics fan we knew right away we hit the jackpot
@mattyboy958811 ай бұрын
12:00 hey that was the best “process “ team 😂😂 hit the head on the nail
@LearnAtMyExpense Жыл бұрын
Butler did not force a trade from the 76ers. The 76ers at the time did not have a GM, as Colangelo Junior was fired due to his Twitter fiasco. Brett Brown and Elton Brand. At the beginning of the playoffs that season, after having had Ben Simmons at PG all season, Brown made the decision to have Butler bring the ball up and be the primary handler. This upset Simmons greatly and at the end of the season he told Brown/Brand that either Butler does not get re-signed or Simmons wanted a trade. It's laughable now, but at the time Simmons was still considered a star player, and was much younger than Butler. While a bad decision in hindsight, Brown/Brand decided to not offer Butler a contract to placate Simmons. This has been confirmed by both numerous journalists as well as Butler himself, though he was told they chose re-signing Tobias Harris over him, it was really Simmons forcing the 6ers hand. They could have re-signed both.
@BigHoss5063 Жыл бұрын
Spurs still getting some good assets from that trade rebuilding wise. Demar traded for Thad young, which turned into Malaki Branham. And Jakob traded for a top 3 2024 protected first rounder
@Notfluffed Жыл бұрын
The CP3 veto doesn’t make sense because the trade to the clippers that actually happened, on paper, is worse than the lakers trade package.
@MrBubblecake Жыл бұрын
The Carmelo trade had to be in top 3 most stupid trade decisions ever on NY’s part. Melo literally already said multiple times he planned on signing with the Knicks when his contract as up and they destroyed their bench and their future to bring him to their team a couple months sooner for absolutely no reason. I actually think it’s because of that trade, that teams will refuse to offer what the Bucks think they’ll get for Giannis now that he wants out. A team would be braindead to trade for him instead of waiting.
@terririnella4032 Жыл бұрын
Jamal Murray was a Knick potential draft pick, well we can add him to the list of (potential) superstars, legends, and hall of famers the Knicks could have gotten if they had kept the pick....yes Carmelo did very well in NY, and there is no guarantee he would have become a Knick or the player he is if they did draft him......but as someone who loves laughing at the Knicks, and has since the 90s, this is just hilarious and so much fun it just proves the theory that trading with the Knicks, and ending up with one of their picks (original or acquired) is the best thing a team can potentially do
@mattyboy958811 ай бұрын
9:22 one of the worst decisions Kawhi made was leaving the 6 after a ring 🤦🏾♂️ we he could’ve been legendary up north
@MrBubblecake2 ай бұрын
Nobody wants to live/play in Canada over LA 🤡
@mattyboy958811 ай бұрын
6:45 that highlight was never that cold to me because it look like he lost control of the ball
@sergeantsnags11 ай бұрын
i can’t believe people still make the same mistake but the “hornets” are the pelicans not the bobcats at the time
@Jay-rk5zr Жыл бұрын
crazy how nobody talks about that iguadola thing the warriots just steal a player from everybody they beat like they got a super power
@curtiszyr Жыл бұрын
Iguodala was making moves goddamn !!😂😂😂😂 he was in grizzlies and went back again to warriors to get more chips lmaoo this dude man 😂😂
@mattyboy958811 ай бұрын
7:06 Pierce was cold but he ain’t play no defense😂 KG was a solid two way player but they got old quick
@earthlylove4 Жыл бұрын
The nets-celtics trade was bad. But the Rudy Gobert trade was BAD.
@ICONOCLAST Жыл бұрын
22:23 I think you meant 2022 title..
@gugga2745 Жыл бұрын
hey man, what website did u use at 4:49 to look at the whole details of the trade? im a stat and information nerd and want to look at stuff like that all the time
@EonArashi Жыл бұрын
That’s BasketballReference. The transactions tab has that info.
@CiroxObama215 ай бұрын
PG should go back to Indi KD to OKC and Bron back to Cleveland that would make the NBA so much more interesting with everything that’s going on right now
@flibbidyx2 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Deron Williams to the Nets. Didn't really do much for either team. The Williams era obviously didn't work out for the Nets. For the Jazz, Derrick Favors was a fan favorite, but never developed into a star, nor did the draft picks they got (Enes Kanter, plus a pick they used to trade up and get Trey Burke).
@mattyboy958811 ай бұрын
10:53 never was a big fan of overachieving Jimmy but gots respect him
@Dogdude446 Жыл бұрын
The Kyrie to Boston trade was not fair then, and it certainly doesn’t look any better now. Cannot convince me CLE didn’t get fleeced
@Gary_From_Vault_108 Жыл бұрын
they turned those assets into Donovan Mitchell and Jarett Allen and Caris Levert what you mean
@lincolnsaha2333 Жыл бұрын
awesome video
@moresportinglogically4420 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@juampasto247 ай бұрын
You forgot two trades: Chris Paul to the OKC/Westbrook to Houston; Chris Paul to the Clippers.
@bezllama3325 Жыл бұрын
SO many of these big trades have led to 0 rings
@TeeEss700 Жыл бұрын
Just goes to show how many factors go into winning a ring and how difficult it is
@thetruthstand Жыл бұрын
I would never forgive David Stern for what he did to my Lakers. That move was unprecedented and political. The trade package that the Lakers, hornets and rockets agreed to was much better than Chris Paul to the clippers.
@erikaw7767 Жыл бұрын
Carmello was a great offensive player, thats about it. Never learned to lead, be a good defender or facilitate well enough to be a champ..
@Obreezy_Gaming11 ай бұрын
You called the Brooklyn trade for the Celtics old players the worst taste in league history. The Paul George trade to the Clippers has the potential to be worse
@MarkLaw13 Жыл бұрын
You see how this Mordaforker broke down Kawhi's trade but not the others. He called Kawhi troublesome and lucky but never said the same of 2016, 2020 and so on. What did Kawhi do to you man.
@seanholtz33559 ай бұрын
Hot take but I don't think the Raptors are complaining about Kahwi at all.
@verward Жыл бұрын
Iggy was a legit star on that nuggets team, he just wasn't a dominant scorer.
@mikegillette3021 Жыл бұрын
Butler bouncing around like that shows a pattern of behavior for a C list player 😂😂😂😂
@carlosharris284011 ай бұрын
Still waiting on the Blake griffin pistons 30for30😂
@gowencoates9539 Жыл бұрын
I havent even watched the vid and im dropping a like - 22 minute tucker vid today is a ginormous w
@moresportinglogically4420 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks!
@smoothjulio Жыл бұрын
The Nets-Celtics trade is the worst trade in NBA history. But just wait until Utah collects on all those picks Minnesota gave them for Rudy. Lol
@johnnydepp4866 Жыл бұрын
And both are done by danny ainge
@chriscadesca5266 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Melo thanks Dolan thanks delusional knick fans. That trade turned out to be a major success
@lelandj822 Жыл бұрын
Good vid but why not show highlights of the players on the new teams as your describing them?
@uncledrew4698 Жыл бұрын
Just a friendly reminder that Presti is the best GM in the league
@devontekuykendall3565 Жыл бұрын
Also the Warriors didn't win the 21' title. They won the 22' title
@liangeboball3776 Жыл бұрын
There’s actually no shot the dude doesn’t once mention the James Harden trade. Never gonna escape the rocket hater allegations
@viscount83889 ай бұрын
Kyrie loves Dallas more than Boston 😂
@jonahfalcon1970 Жыл бұрын
You think Billy King was bad for the Nets? He was equally bad with the 76ers.
@worksucksletsdrink601110 ай бұрын
2 time MVP and final mvp put some respect on his name!!!
@jop-zk3gi10 ай бұрын
so iggy was the first snake HAHAHAHAHA
@mattyboy958811 ай бұрын
8:18 the Nets is the worst rebuild but they bet on hall of fame players and lost at the least and got fleeced by the vets they signed
@roslolian11 Жыл бұрын
The Knicks didn't wait to sign Melo in free agency at Melo's request because he will make more money if he was traded than if he signed a new deal 😂😂😂
@lukegoldberg9720 Жыл бұрын
The worst trade gotta b the bill Russell trade
@joezerarenga1962 Жыл бұрын
If the CP3 trade was not vetoed, kobe would still be alive today
@kxraxe3689 Жыл бұрын
So in hindsight the NBA accepted the CP3 trade then declined? 😂
@jjmcg9688 Жыл бұрын
I thought Eric Gordon was in the Paul trade?
@chillingwitha.j.4964 Жыл бұрын
So Celtics basically traded pierce and kg for Tatum and brown
@danielsmartt9859 Жыл бұрын
Trade 😢😢😢
@asapluke Жыл бұрын
The sixers best chance at a title was easily 2021
@marlinesutherland5358 Жыл бұрын
The Nets are just an impatient organization, how do you make the same mistake twice in a decade? 9 out of the 10 Teams that have won a title in the last decade drafted one of their stars. Now they will have to wait 4 more years until they can truly build for their future.
@RyanBrown-bz9nh Жыл бұрын
I thought Boogie Cousins would be on this list.
@jehem2239 Жыл бұрын
Igoudala forces to be in the warriors the following season? You're putting dirt on Iggy's name.. He was a free agent that off season, he has all the right to chose his next team.
@carlianpelayo Жыл бұрын
Wow a 22 min vid?!
@manz7860 Жыл бұрын
Those lebron Cleveland teams were getting so desperate it was disgusting. Cleveland wade and Isiah Thomas 😂
@johnnylove2073 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Derrick Rose there for a minute too?
@manz7860 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnylove2073 yup
@W204MBC Жыл бұрын
also the pick used to draft Jokic was the Knicks until the Melo trade
@kamballer2159 Жыл бұрын
I still think Boston did IT dirty
@Kyle22oifer6 ай бұрын
God bless! Jesus Christ is King and saves and is the way! Psalms 62 - "Truly my soul finds rest in God; my salvation comes from him. Truly he is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I will never be shaken." Jeremiah 29:11 - "For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
@dusanv0181 Жыл бұрын
Voting for you “own” is proof of bias!
@SlabbyMess Жыл бұрын
Melo should have went to Portland after the nuggets
@JimBob-jr5up Жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that theres still ppl who dont understand the CP3 to Lakers non-trade. Its probably because most youtubers dont understand it so they spout shit. This was not a situation of a trade being rejected in a way like never before. The proposal that was made that both teams would have to agree on BEFORE submitting it to the NBA, is what was rejected. Stern and 29 owners who where subsidizing the continued existance of the NOP, voted on if the trade was acceptable and then if it passed the interim GM, i forget his name, would have submitted it to the NBA. But only 2 owners (Cuban and.... portlands) voted in favor of it, the other 27 teams voted against it and Stern as rep. for the NOP also rejected it, not that it would have mattered. Please people, for the of god, get thos shit right. Im so tired of people crying about it, all because thsy dont understand it.
@walterdbrown Жыл бұрын
The 2010s basically messed up the league, and was the first step towards this new way players get to play where they want. Sure, by trading players you manage to get assets in return, but how many times have these trades ended up being “win-win” scenarios for both teams? Not a lot.
@mattyboy958811 ай бұрын
9:50 Wiggins wasn’t a real all star he got in because they were winning which is lame like flopping in the NBA 😂
@Heat3955 Жыл бұрын
Unfair lebron wade bosh kd curry klay
@donquicemarzett4009 Жыл бұрын
Butler wanted to stay in Philly but, Philly chose to resign Tobias Harris instead lol. 😂😂😂
@felipecarrera9127 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 nuggets still won a ring before Knicks this century
@elijahg2230 Жыл бұрын
Lol stop it nobody with a brain thought that 2012 lakers was a super team 🤣🤣 washed Steve mash, Dwight injured, Kobe was just carrying bums that year
@miljanmatovic880 Жыл бұрын
You are missing the obvious... Giannis to Denver, because Denver IS serious about winning titles and Giannis + Joker = wins