Mormon mission rule book 101 📚

[@brainstormsai]

“Hello! My name is Elder Price And I would like to share with you the most amazing book” 🎶 edit because I keep getting questions this is a quote. (From a great musical btw)

[@GoblinModeMVP]

Hello! My name is Elder Grant, it’s a story about America a long long time ago!

[@CruelSeason]

“It has So many awesome parts You won’t believe how much this book can change your life “

[@weirdestcore]

Hello! My name is Elder Green! I would like to share with you this book of Jesus Christ.

[@paulroadley1104]

Yeah its called the Bible

[@paulroadley1104]

​@@CruelSeasonRubbish

[@rocky8758]

Can’t hold children?

[@crunk1]

It's to avoid allegations of child abuse.

[@bopeep86]

They can hold pets....

[@changan2942]

They can hold children if they're close relatives, my sister served her mission in her home country and i saw her a lot at church, she always gave hugs to my baby brother. 😂❤

[@crunk1]

@vipervek it doesn't say anything in the Bible about that. And there's nothing in our religion against it. It's simply a rule to avoid allegations of child abuse.

[@crunk1]

@vipervek It's out of an abundance of caution. We handle our Primary (Sunday School for the children) with the same caution: 2+ adults must be present in every classroom, adults can't hold kids (unless they're close/related), adults can't have kids on their lap (unless they're close/related), etc.

[@haleywood8040]

Proud ex Mormon. I escaped the cult.

[@chaplainmattsanders4884]

I applaud your courage & wisdom.

[@bopeep86]

Soo brave. 😆

[@Mega-Tim]

Most scholars agree it's not a cult, but you can keep feeling bad for yourself if you want.

[@changan2942]

I'm a proud Latter-day Saint. ❤

[@BrodyThomas33]

@@changan2942 me too

[@stonystarkindustries]

"unless its 3 girls 2 boys" with that uncomfortably eager smile tho

[@dademade93]

🎉

[@deanmatters5739]

These poor brainwashed kids. BTW. Mormon church is worth billions but these missionaries have to pay for their mission. That's business

[@yaetoaprado8442]

DISCLAIMER: READ EVERYTHING I TYPED THEN TAKE IT AS A GRAIN OF SALT AND MAKE YOUR OWN OPINION IN THE END BASED ON YOUR OWN TRUTH AFTER YOU TAKE MY SUGGESTIONS. It is strenuous work that is a choice to go (especially a choice for women, and men are required to go but it is still their choice to go through with it or if any circumstance prevents them from being able to serve it isn't something that people should look down on but should try to understand. Some members are more focused on the letter of the law sometimes but so long as it's in the boundaries of the law of the Gospel it is alright--- the Lord knows your situation and will give you blessings regardless). Either way the money goes back to the members of the church through relief society/elder's quorum and young women's/ young men's, building churches to accommodation the rising member conversions, building temples so people have access to the Lord on a more Holier ground in keeping and making covenants and where people can have prayers answered too or minister and answer the prayers of others (revelation can be received in many ways like dreams, people, scripture study, attending the temple and more, there is no limit to how you receive it unless you put that limit). There is joy in the work to work for a mission and to serve a mission. I haven't served mine yet but the stories I heard are incredible and some had me heartbroken because of the choices some missionaries chose and they haven't worked on their conversion because of them paying more attention to the opinions of others than of God. Stay for the doctrine not for the people. On top of service preach His Gospel. Honestly without the Gospel of the Church I would be a very different person today and not the good kind. I would be on a high horse, bitter towards others, alone, and envious. Before you say "brainwashed" I'd suggest you read the works of the church first and meeting with missionaries before making an assumption or an opinion. At least we can trust The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in our 10% tithing to give aid to those who are less fortunate. I suggest to listen to This Thing Was Not Done in A Corner by President Gordon B. Hinckley to answer most of your questions and listening to Ward Radio (a podcast about our church to answer your questions and challenge them with information if you'd like) and before you say we are racists we are not. Here's the scripture to prove it: 2 Nephi 26:33 For none of these iniquities come of the Lord; for he doeth that which is good among the children of men; and he doeth nothing save it be plain unto the children of men; and he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembered the heathen: and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile. The Two Greatest Commandments: Love God with all thy heart, might, mind, and strength. Love thy neighbor as ye love yourself. following those Two Great Commandments helps so much to follow the other 10 commandments of the Gospel and helps improve ourselves with each passing day. why church? line upon line meaning building truth upon truth. I wouldn't have stayed if the Gospel truth wasn't consist in my life and I mean it. Everything makes sense. Elder Holland's talk "Tomorrow the Lord Will do Wonders Among You" is a comforting talk if you'd like to listen to it. Joseph Smith is a true prophet and every action he took was asked of him by God and it was done for God.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

We pay for the mission because it is a personal sacrifice and choice we make.

[@Busher-c2t]

We don’t have to pay for the mission but we can

[@AnonymousMissionary]

@@Busher-c2t Na you have to or someone in your place, the church wont unless it an extreme circumstance

[@joaop.barata6062]

@@AnonymousMissionary I didn't pay for my mission. It was not an extreme circumstance. I'm also not brainwashed, but thank you.

[@moonman239]

And then there are "mission rules," set by the local supervisor (called a "mission president.")

[@MadMasterNeil]

It's 2023. These children sheltered?

[@oloblish]

It's actually quite similar morals for Muslim youth, which is a religion about 2 billion. In a lot of ways Western norms are the odd ones out compared to the majority traditional world.

[@briandavis6898]

I sure hope so. Kids today have a lot of evil to contend with

[@thecapitalg]

That's why around half have left the church. (Yes, this is factual. Studies have found the Gen Z retention rate to be less than 50% within the LDS Church.

[@Rizemble]

​@@oloblish as a muslim please dont speak without knowledge, just because Christians dont follow Christianity why bkame us muslims for actually ticking to our books.?

[@oloblish]

@@Rizemble haha if you actually understood what I was saying you would not have made this comment

[@Angelec99]

Most of those things are for their safety or help keep them focused on the mission.

[@neonzoldyck5727]

To swim? And to hold children? Where does it say this in the Bible.

[@SalamHerbs-db5nt]

Right 😂 its a cult of control

[@Angelec99]

@SalamHerbs-db5nt you must have been born yesterday

[@SalamHerbs-db5nt]

@Angelec99 regardless of when I was born I am a child of God

[@JamalAdam455]

​@@SalamHerbs-db5ntSamuel 15 3 that seems like child abuse 😂

[@CO-yy2rv]

A missionary asked if I'd like a cake bringing for a lesson, of course I said yes They went to the local Polish store and it was laced with Rum liquor...😋 I got drunk from it, thanks Sister Missionaries haha 😂

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

That's hilarious, they would be so embarrassed if they found out.

[@HolyGrounds33]

Matthew 7:21-23 King James Version 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[@joaop.barata6062]

Amen brother, I'll use that on my next sunday talk

[@My_trashtalking_account]

You're not missing anything from not watching movies. Movies sucks now.

[@jacobfluckiger3686]

Those are just some rules to help you be a better missionary! Missions are hard but they bring a lot of happiness and love to people all around!

[@SalamHerbs-db5nt]

"Missionaries" LOL

[@SalamHerbs-db5nt]

O

[@somerandomdude7776]

damn bro, this is commitment

[@srso4660]

More like coercion 😅

[@cooperrichards2434]

@@firestorm942 what are you talking about it’s there option to go and if you really don’t want to be there you can leave whenever you want we aren’t violating any human rights plus you can keep the priesthood and stay in church if you leave. Is a choice

[@mikkifrompreston]

@@cooperrichards2434that’s not true. The mission presidents hold missionaries passports and control their money, which does make it more difficult to leave. Of course missionaries can leave early, but they need to ask permission and cannot do themselves

[@cooperrichards2434]

@@mikkifrompreston your right the church (consensually) holds your passport and money it makes it harder to leave however if you go to your mission president and I need to go home I’m going home early there is no “no”. There might be a “ why” or a “ this might to a few days to arrange” but you don’t need permission to leave legally they can not hold and they don’t. And there’s reasons they keep your passports like so they know if you leave and so they know if your got kidnapped or just left if you just say nothing and leave. It’s more tedious but leaving is definitely allowed and accepted.

[@mikkifrompreston]

@@cooperrichards2434 i think its wrong that the church makes missionaries pay for their own missions. If you leave your mission early, they keep your money deposited as well.

[@henrisb1247]

Please realize that Jesus never came to Missouri and that you don’t need to know a secret handshake to get into heaven. You need to repent and believe and then you will be ok but you can’t buy your way to heaven. Jesus sees through that

[@BigShotSpamton]

Jesus hasn't come to Missouri *YET*

[@AnonymousMissionary]

James 2:17

[@robertarnold6192]

Repenting and believing is still at the core. Nobody’s buying their way into Heaven. But shouldn’t we all be giving our excess wealth to those who need it? Remember the Lord’s parables.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

@@robertarnold6192 Wait, so is your point that mormons are buying their way to heaven somehow? Im not trying to be condescending, I just dont really grasp your point :)

[@Helltown66]

You're delusional

[@bboice08]

These things are not taken away. What might be a better way to put it? Delayed perhaps? Remember spiritual eyes take time to form. Ask yourself this…when I was born was I able to walk and talk straight away?

[@victoriaphillips9296]

Guys, it only for 18 months or 2 years. They can do whatever they want but they choose to follow these rules. Alot of these rules are to protect them or for safeguarding children etc. Plus they don't have time for the movies or swimming etc. They are super busy all day every day. And then they go home. Its not the end of the world, just a small portion of their life that they decide to spend this way. Having done it myself, it's no big deal to not do these things for a limited period of time. You can go without dating or swimming or movies. It won't kill you I promise, or damage you

[@justincase01]

Two year sentence in the freezing cold, suit & tie ev e r y d A y (except one) always with the same ugly dude from back-hick hayseed ville), but after the mental trauma of accepting your fate, you simply look up in the sky at every airplane ✈️ 🛫 waiting it out to take you back home. For two years I really could've been doing other productive things. I threw 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 related to that two years away, .. journals, pictures, ... I have nothing from it. Memories (a few good ones, admittedly) only.

[@changan2942]

@@justincase01 that's your experience, the purpose of serving a mission is to spread the true word of God to the world. If you're willing to serve Him, God will bless you! 😊 It's all about your will and faith to do His work. People can have different experiences from serving missions. My experience was great and it was the best decision I've made in my life so far. It helped me come closer to God and learn more about Jesus Christ.

[@BankruptMonkey]

It's not "choosing" to do it if their family will disown them if they don't go on mission. It's also not a "choice" if they had to make the choice when they were 8.

[@nayibeanduquia8602]

​@@BankruptMonkey nah bro almost nobody does that

[@Barkz01]

​@@nayibeanduquia8602fr 😂

[@InsertRandomThing]

Hey Mormons, I know this is a big ask, it was for me as well, but I’d recommend reading the CES Letter. Paraphrasing Apostle Hugh Nibley, if something is true, it can stand up to investigation. Just give it a read, actually consider what it’s saying, and see what happens from there.

[@Dieoall]

Crazy how the CES letter was debunked by his own sister

[@AnonymousMissionary]

I read and its literally hot garbage, I would recommend you look at the Faithful Reply to the CES letter by Jim Bennett.

[@joaop.barata6062]

I'd recommend you read the truth and light letter.

[@Mmmmmmmm19000]

Why can't you hold children???

[@help4343]

liability

[@barzun8]

my favourite part of the mormon story is when moroni comes down from the starship enterprise!

[@Joshua_One_Nine]

Book of Abraham Facsimile 1: Common Scholarship, Egyptologist, BYU, and including the Gospels topic essays by the LDS Church. Found that Facsimile 1 is just an Egyptian funeral text and Joesph Smith just drew in areas where the papyrus was damaged. All Egyptologists agree that the restoration of Joesph Smith was wrong and inaccurate. Here are some of the numbers 1-12 of what Joesph Smith said they meant vs What they are. 1. Joesph Smith / 1. Egyptologists 1.) The Angel of the Lord. Note: this should have a human head, however, the papyrus was torn off here, so Joesph penciled in a bird's head. 1.) Isis: the sister-wife of Osiris. 2.) Abraham fastened on an altar. 2.) Osiris on an embalming table wrapped in clothes for mummification. 3. )The idolatrous priest of Elkenah attempting to offer up Abraham as a sacrifice. Note: the head of Anubis is a jackal, however, the papyrus was torn off here, so Joesph penciled in a human head. 3.) Anubis, the Egyptian funeral God. 4.) The altar for sacrifice by the idolatrous priests, standing before the gods of Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah, Korash, and Pharaoh. 4.) An embalming table aka; the lions' couch. 5.) The idolatrous God of Elkenah. Note: there is no such Egyptian god Elkenah. 5.) These are canopic jars that contain the deceased organs, and are represented as the sons of the god Hor. This is one of Qebehseneuf, who receives the intestines. 6.) The idolatrous God of Linnah. Note: there is no God Libnah in Egyptian archeology. 6.) These are the canopic jars that contain deceased organs, and are represented by the sons of the God Hor. This one is Duamutfer, who receives the stomach. 7.) The idolatrous God of Mahmackrah. Note: there is no God Mahmackrah. 7.) These are canopic jars that contain the deceased organs, and are represented by the sons of God Hor. This one is Hapy who receives the lungs. 8.) This idolatrous God of Korash. Note: there is no Egyptian God Korash. 8.) These are the canopic jars that contain deceased organs and are represented by the sons of the God Hor. This one is Imsety, who receives the liver. 9.) The Idolatrous God of Pharaoh. Note; this word Pharaoh is an anachronism, as it was not used as a title until Thutmose the III (ca, 1479-1425 BC) long after Abraham's death in 1637 BC or 1801 BC) 9.) The Egyptian God Horus or Sobek, whose head is a crocodile. 10.) Abraham in Egypt. 10.) Funeral offerings covered with lotus flowers 11.) Designed to represent the pillars of heaven, as understood by the Egyptians. 11.) Serekh represents a gated facade of a palace, thus signifying that the ceremony took place behind the wall inside the palace. 12.) Raukeeyang, signifying expanse, or the firmament over our heads: but in this case, in relation to this subject, the Egyptians meant it to signify Shaumau, to be high, or the heavens, answering to the Hebrew word, Shaumahyeem. Note: Raukeeyang and Shaumau are not real Egyptian words. 12.) Water the crocodile swim in. This is just the first Facsimile, don't forget Joesph also did not know any "Reformed Egyptian" because no such language existed. The church knew this back then and today. At the time no one knew real ancient Egyptian yet because the Rosetta Stone had yet to be found. Look into it if you don't believe me on the LDS official sources called, the Gospel Topic Essays. Also, look into the Kinder Hook plates as well they were faked on purpose to see if Joesph would translate them to see if he did have the gifts he claimed. Spoiler alert: not knowing they were fake he did translate them. Causing more embarrassing problems for the LDS church later on. If you want truth go to the bible and if you want Lies go to the LDS official history. God Bless!

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

Oh look you copy-pasted a misleading anti-mormon article without caring to do further research or give context. Here's a question, if this is a funerary text, then how come the guy on the table is clearly still alive? When you place a guy on a table in order to cut him open and stuff his organs into jars, I think whether the guy is still alive or not is a pretty big distinction when deciding to label the ritual as funeral rather than a human sacrifice.

[@Joshua_One_Nine]

@KnuttyEntertainment I'm really confused by your statement...? If you could tell me where I copied and pasted anything, I wrote this out from research. Could you please explain that he's alive thing, it's an Egyptian funeral papyrus, and I just wrote what Joesph said and compared it to what Ancient Egyptian scholarship on the funeral papyrus and took what they say it means. I dont know. Maybe you have some secret knowledge they don't have or something?

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

@@Joshua_One_Nine In Egyptian artwork, when you see a figure standing with their legs apart, that signifies that they’re alive. Dead people are always drawn with their legs together. The guy on the table in facsimile 1 has his legs apart and is flailing his arms. He’s clearly alive. The Joseph Smith papyri included a bunch of different fragments. Some of those fragments included parts of the Egyptian Book of the Dead which is a funerary text. Facsimile 1 is NOT part of the book of the dead. It’s a separate text. When Egyptologists first looked at it they assumed it was part of the book of the dead because it was alongside those other fragments. Especially because it resembles other depictions of ritual embalming. However in all other depictions, the man on the table is a mummy. Facsimile 1 is an entirely different ritual, likely a human sacrifice. The man on the table is flailing around, there’s a guy leaning over him with a knife, and there are canopic jars beneath the altar to store his internal organs.

[@Joshua_One_Nine]

@KnuttyEntertainment I've never heard that before. I also think you seriously can't believe a known Con-man who actually was convicted of treasure seeking and was known for his tall tells wouldn't make up,"Reformed Egyptian."and who we know drew in Abraham in the facsimiles was someone that God would make a prophet. I think he lied, and unfortunately, many fell for it. You should come to the real Christ and repent of Mormonism.

[@이정호-b5n]

모르몬교가 아직도 있구나. 나 어릴적 모르몬교 선교하는 젊은 남자 둘씩 다니는거 많이 봤는데, 공통점이 하나같이 깔끔하고 잘생겼다는거. 그렇게 남자들만 봐서 모르몬교에 여자도 있다는건 몰랐네.

[@M3rluzz0]

This video is dubiously clipped

[@ricksimon9867]

Theoretically you could argue that there is no difference between Paul of Tarsus and Joseph Smith, but historians will tell you that Smith knew he was lying while Paul might have believed the stories he had heard about Jesus.

[@egalitarian-rex]

If everyone could discern fact from fiction the plague of religion could be eradicated for the betterment of mankind and the planet.

[@pogiplayboy]

The oldest bible is the Ethiopian bible. Read it. I am a direct decendant. This is fake religious beliefs based on fake things

[@oloblish]

​@@egalitarian-rexMao Zedong said the same thing. He also extinguished more people than anyone in history.

[@egalitarian-rex]

@@oloblish, I commend Mao for his clarity of thought on religion. I condemn his totalitarian style of governance and his genocidal actions.

[@ToxicFangX1]

Historians of other faiths, right? Clearly that is 1 perspective. Members of the church don't believe that so what's the point?

[@jccavoli8945]

Why should you be deprived of so many things Jesus has presented to us

[@JamieBlackman-h5x]

Seems to be like a cult 😂

[@user-zr6ee6lb9m]

It absolutely is

[@ariannahancock6133]

These rules are there to protect us. To help us stay on our path to God. To keep us safe from satans temptations and from sin. (Just for those who don't understand)

[@ppgranja3]

They're pretty much treated like 5 year olds, even though they are all a bunch of adults

[@Ghost-scream-14]

Not everyone who calls out to me: Lord! Lord! Shall enter the gates of heaven.

[@trentonhuggins465]

Bro seemed pretty happy about the rule not allowing him to be with the opposite gender 😂

[@hksuperstar]

Looking once is ok but twice is lust of the eyes. Service before self. That was a ripoff from a federal airbase nearby.

[@aidenanderson5120]

this is to keep insurance costs down

[@ILike_Cookies]

I hope to go on a mission someday

[@Itzmayn]

Me too… I can’t miss that in my life

[@ToxicFangX1]

It's awesome! You'll learn and experience much more in that time period. I highly recommend it.

[@Itzmayn]

@@ToxicFangX1 me too… I’m just 16 can’t wait till I’m 19

[@henrywillis6127]

Its a cult. All of you are in a cult.

[@SageTheRedFoxTherian]

i dont personally want to go on a mission but then again i just started yound womens this year so it might change!@@Itzmayn

[@Cel_566]

Exhibit A: The Mormon glow 😃☀️

[@jonathanbradley6527]

A book that keeps rewriting its self

[@mariemcconnell6734]

I love and pray, these young sincere kids, will come to know the truth, and the truth will set them free. Please, if you’re following this religion. Set all other books aside, and read the Bible. The true Word of God. 🙏🏼✝️☝🏼❤️

[@Meghan-iq5zj]

So glad I’m not Mormon or as they say “LdS”😂😂😂😂😂

[@BigShotSpamton]

So glad I'm LDS

[@Meghan-iq5zj]

@@BigShotSpamton I’m also very glad I’m not in the lds cult

[@AnonymousMissionary]

@@Meghan-iq5zj L

[@joaop.barata6062]

@@Meghan-iq5zj I'm also very glad YOU're not in the LDS cult. We don't want you

[@Meghan-iq5zj]

@@joaop.barata6062 I’m glad that a horrible cult doesn’t want me. I’m glad that I don’t have to go to church every Sunday (even though I do), I’m glad I don’t have to have an army of children, I’m glad I’m able to drink hot beverages, I’m glad I can wear what I want and believe what I want, I’m glad I don’t have to serve a mission by going door to door soliciting to tons of random people that most likely won’t answer, I’m glad I don’t have to wear sacred garments, im glad I can watch and listen to what I want, the list goes on…

[@DietaryCar]

So 2 girls one guy is okay giggidy

[@victorp6910]

when i was a teen i had three female mormon ladies that came to my home , they were definitely in there 20’s

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

Probably missionaries then.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

Yea, the age limit is 26ish for men and no limit for women

[@perditionsflames9963]

Mormonism can be summed up in four words. Silly rules and blasphemy.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

Bru Low iq argument

[@RandeepSingh-x1b]

I like the this way of life it’s family life at it’s best

[@emilwandel]

Yes water is evil, that is why you get baptized with water. Swimming makes you clearly unworthy. How can anyone take the rules seriously.

[@hksuperstar]

She’s not homely looking. She looks ok.

[@jamesrgoes]

Almost every Religion's God resembles their followers. It's a naturally comforting feeling for a human to belirve in a God that physically resembles themselves🤔

[@joaop.barata6062]

That's not true at all, there are plenty of religions that believe in a formless god

[@jamesrgoes]

@@joaop.barata6062 and how popular are those religions? We are talking about fractions of a percent compared with just Christianity alone🤔

[@Elizabeth-rk3do]

Are they allowed to read the New Testament?

[@nathan_02everything97]

Yes, they love the new testament

[@Bigchestboi]

Yes we actually studied this year

[@Elizabeth-rk3do]

@aidenprewitt3903 The New Testament tells us that eternal life is a free gift 🎁. Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is death, but the gift 🎁 of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace ye are saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God; not a result of works lest any man should boast.

[@PriscillaPerez-nh5xt]

Is this Sam ?the guy from OKOP show?

[@ngatihine6072]

Silly rules. That's why they break them. They get up to all sorts of nonsense.😂

[@LDSflow]

I've seen missionaries swim. So that's a lie bro.

[@henrisb1247]

Shows the faith of those missionaries

[@LDSflow]

@@henrisb1247 they can return home and swim all they want. Where does it say they can't?

[@gman9tree851]

It's when there doing a mission not in general

[@typical-teen6040]

She is cute tbh

[@jenniturtleburger3708]

Imagine dedicating your life to something made up by a con man. Sad.

[@BigShotSpamton]

Dedicating life to... Jesus?

[@AnonymousMissionary]

Have you read the Book of Mormon? Read it and then tell me that a dude with no formal education wrote it in 60 working days by looking at a glowing rock in a top hat.

[@jenniturtleburger3708]

@@AnonymousMissionary Lol, ok buddy.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

@@jenniturtleburger3708 Bru you cant just go out and dog on something if you know nothing about it -- not even about this but just anything in general

[@AnonymousMissionary]

@LaymanScribe Did you read it with an open mind or read it thinking that it was heresy?

[@Daniela-gp4fk]

Is he wearing lipstick?

[@pogiplayboy]

Probably.

[@marcushinton772]

You just waste two years of your lives, then be controlled for the rest of it

[@ham7357]

It’s funny when religious people clown on other religions as if their own isn’t bogus or it own kind of cult

[@maggieras126]

Spoilers: it was not ok 😭😭😭

[@cooperrichards2434]

Respect

[@beanbean3535]

As someone who is speaking with missionaries, and reading the Book of Mormon, why does it repeat the phrase “And it came to pass” 1,385 times. It really reads like a child was trying sound old timesey

[@cooperrichards2434]

@@beanbean3535 that’s just how things were written back then. You could say similar things about the Bible. Maybe that was a thing started by Nephi then just continued down the chain. Or from a non- members perspective yeah it does sound how you describe.

[@beanbean3535]

@@cooperrichards2434 it was translated into English though? Since there isn’t a direct translation between any two languages it just doesn’t make sense. It just makes the whole think repetitive and hard to read. Also, what about the fact that we tested the genetics of native Americans, and they don’t have Jewish decent? It doesn’t line up with the story

[@cooperrichards2434]

@@beanbean3535 well then perhaps Joseph believed the closest translation would be those words maybe those really were used a lot and he was confident it was those specific words. Either way i think if the Bible or the Book of Mormon were easy to read it would take away meaning as everyone would read them there would be no opposing force to read them, if that makes sense.

[@beanbean3535]

@@cooperrichards2434 why would god purposely make people argue over what he is. Shouldn’t he care more than that?

[@Luvqshell]

I respect you, but doing things for god no going to church, praying, reading the Bible, and doing good things doesn’t get you into heaven. You might be a “good person” but nobody is a “good person”. The only way to get to heaven is to trust in our lord and savior Jesus Christ and turn away from your sin, and believe in him . Look up other videos if you would like to look into Christianity, look it up on KZbin with videos and read the Holy Bible. Jesus loves you, and so do I! 💗

[@yaetoaprado8442]

I'm LDS and I like how you said turn away from your sin. I feel like a lot of the Christian folk I met forgot that and just say trust and believe in the Lord.

[@langleybeliever7789]

Why does the guy have on lipstick. Is that allowed with the magic underwear.

[@joaop.barata6062]

Why are you seeing things? Do you know need a shrink?

[@langleybeliever7789]

@@joaop.barata6062 Are you blind! Watch the video again. I think your magic underwear is too tight.

[@FiveForever-mr9xb]

Hello elder and sister❤❤❤❤❤

[@Frank-it9kl]

Wtf??? Swim??? Movies?????

[@Michellehere]

repent.✝️

[@yaetoaprado8442]

we have that

[@pasainchina97]

LDS are bound by rules not unlike the pharisees in the bible. The pharisees also hated Jesus because he claimed to be God. Mormons also reject Jesus claim. Pharisees did many good works in there work based religion much like Mormons.

[@joaop.barata6062]

We do not reject Jesus' claim, we believe He's God. On the other hand, I believe you're a saducee.

[@SalamHerbs-db5nt]

Such a nefarious control system. Smith was a great conman and i look up to him and hope i can acdomplish 1/1,000 of what he has in my own endeavors.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

He was not. Read the Book of Mormon and then tell me that a dude with no formal education wrote it in 60 working days by looking at a glowing rock in a top hat. It is literally impossible for him to have done it without God. Joseph translated the book by the gift and power of God.

[@pogiplayboy]

She's cute he's a nerd but I feel they are related.

[@Lady-C]

Wait why can't they hold children??

[@williammueller6639]

Would you want a sexually stunted and emotionally repressed person to hold your kids?

[@rudyruiz7962]

Jesus is the way the truth and the life not no smith guy

[@fuxkag3908]

They Believe in Jesus Smith is just a Prophet who claims to have been visited by Jesus in 19th cent

[@joaop.barata6062]

Yes, we would agree with that. Thank you for stating out beliefs.

[@bonitobonita9263]

Not really big difference from other religions. Just because the religion is super popular, that doesn’t make it less religious or less restrictions

[@BiologicalComputer]

It’s a cult though that’s obvious

[@hiepdoshin7846]

It's high-demand vs low-demand

[@calcontakemeaway9069]

Very sad.

[@b.c334]

Christ is the true healer and He warned us about false prophets like joseph smith. Its time to truly repent and truly turn to Christ. Book of Mormon is a huge lie. There is only one God and you cannot become God and there was no god before God. God is the beginning and the end the first and the last ❤

[@codename495]

The LDS cult is out of control. These poor young people.

[@jamesricks]

I was one of them. Luckily most of them get to see an inside view of how the church works. Within a couple years of returning, once they get their lives back, the majority of them leave the cult for good.

[@samuelcannon]

Crazy y’all think it’s a cult

[@Arlecchinofan97]

@@samuelcannonIt’s seems to me as the same as Islam, a warped version of Christianity that took elements from the church and refitted them into a new faith entirely. When did Jesus say that you have to adhere to these specific kinds of traditions and wear once piece garments under your clothes?

[@AnakinSkywalker.Vader.]

agree to disagree the church is not a cult. That is a rumor. I think the book of mormon musical made up a lot of false rumors. I find it sad that many people do think its a cult. try to read up about the real beleifs of our church

[@rachel-leegeorge3374]

​@@AnakinSkywalker.Vader.yeah .I'm sure it all started with that musical...

[@irmavincent9546]

Yes? But they let you flirt women.

[@bopeep86]

Speak English

[@johnescobar6]

Lolol nope-definitely discouraged, but of course, on both sides, it happens anyway.

[@timhansen3376]

Expect the bloody broadcasting to promote religion????

[@aaroncrutcher5957]

Cult

[@AnonymousMissionary]

Why?

[@ShaneBro]

Rules to be in a cult? Crazy, run away. Think about what you are being limited to and what other people in this world are allowed to do. Your parents need to put boundaries on what you do not a 'religion'.

[@MissJanina1]

Those are mission rules, so only 18-24 months. Then they go back home and they can do all those things.

[@r.o.1330]

.....got to love the brainwashed.

[@BettyLamb-q6h]

Such control.... sorry for you.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

Bru they chose to do it. Its not control if its voluntary

[@BettyLamb-q6h]

@AnonymousMissionary to an extent it's voluntary. When you have had it drilled into your head since you were old enough to understand that you must go on a mission, it becomes control. If they choose to not go on a mission, they pay the price.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

​@@BettyLamb-q6h What is the price to pay if you dont go? And even if you are told your whole life to go, who is going to make you go? your parents, maybe you could say. In my opinion if you go on a mission because your parents said to, then you are a coward for not standing up for yourself

[@BettyLamb-q6h]

I don't think it's that simple. I'm not mormon, never have been, but was raised in a high control religion. I agree that they could refuse, but they won't. Very convoluted. It makes me sad.

[@joaop.barata6062]

Funny, we're sorry for you.

[@martid03]

Swim??

[@NyxesRealms]

Very sad

[@darlenebrice9324]

It is sad that more kids don't learn to serve and sacrifice and abide by high standards for 2 or less years of their life. Most people complain that youth nowadays are very self- centered and lazy, but have a kid choose a high standard and you criticize them. Some young people are out conducting mass murders in the schools. I commend these missionaries for choosing a higher path.

[@jamesricks]

It helped me see how the church actually works. I would love to have those two years back, but glad I was able to leave, despite the continued challenges with family

[@lukantep]

​@@darlenebrice9324i thi k he is talking about them twisting the Word of God

[@ToxicFangX1]

@@darlenebrice9324 Dang, I wouldn't have said it any better.

[@ToxicFangX1]

@@lukantep Oh he is? "Very sad" gave off that impression? I wonder... or is that just how you view the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints because that's also what you've just been "told"?

[@DebsterRiley]

Even God grants us a day of rest and relaxation. If you can’t take one day to recharge, to do something that you find enjoyable, go play tennis, go to a PG 13 movie, play a round of golf. Well, if you like a church having that much control over you, then that is your choice.

[@MissJanina1]

They do have a day off a week. And the rules only apply during the mission (18-24 months), then they go home and back to their normal lives.

[@jonbaker476]

@@MissJanina1 No they don't. they have half a day off to go shopping and wash clothes. They still can't do anything they'd like to do. It's just as restrictive, you just don't have to knock doors for a few hours. All the other rules still apply

[@yaetoaprado8442]

@@jonbaker476 small hobbies are great to have on the mission. Chess, Sketching, photography, flower crowns, singing, whatever it is you can do while laundry is washing, or when you are cleaning the house. It's like a marriage with 4 kids. Some parents can't find the time for big hobbies but they can for small ones. Plus when they come back it'll be alright, like the last person said they'll go back to their lives either how they left it or a changed person for the better. As for the stress I can't speak for other missionaries but the mission does have pamphlets to help handle the stress or anxiety one may feel on the mission, or they can meet with someone to talk it out or with their mission companion.

[@JacoblikesPorsche]

1 word CULT

[@AnonymousMissionary]

Why? like genuinely I am curious why you would think that?

[@quijybojanklebits8750]

Hasa diga eboi

[@erinncarl9294]

This Mormanism sounds like a real drag !!

[@crunk1]

These rules are only during missions. And some of the rules are more pragmatic than dogmatic. Like, "can't hold children" is to avoid allegations of child abuse. The "uneven" rule sounds a bit different than what I had - you can't be one-on-one or two-on-one with the opposite gender. That was to avoid sexual misconduct/allegations.

[@jamesricks]

That’s an understatement

[@ToxicFangX1]

Doing nothing sounds like a drag too...

[@nancysteen9111]

Wow, Mormon missions-- boring, stressful, repressive, AND expensive. No wonder young people are lining up to get out.

[@yaetoaprado8442]

@@nancysteen9111 because of a lack of understanding, not because of the mission

[@HeatherJSN]

Yeah, it has to be 3 girls and 1 boy. For the record, I'm a former Mormon.

[@Alyssajean-m5c]

A man’s dream lmaooo

[@fatherofchickens7951]

He cute😋

[@carlosayala8171]

Cant swim? Why?

[@AnonymousMissionary]

Liability, they dont want any dumb kids drowning

[@ArabellaPottery]

It should be against the law to allow children to join any cult until the age of 25.

[@colynrobinson212]

By most countries standards "children" stop being children by the latest age of 18, and that's the US. So while your idea is a solid one, it holds no logic to it as people will already be doing whatever they want well before they even hit 20.

[@ArabellaPottery]

@@colynrobinson212 Tell an adult that if They want to join a religious cult. You first have to mutilate your body. Children don't get to decide what perverts do to them. They really should have that choice.

[@oloblish]

Why would you let people join a cult at age 25?

[@ArabellaPottery]

@@oloblish religious cults don't care how old you are.

[@heidi-dx4yg]

It’s not a cult

[@vanessamutoni4869]

What kind of demonic religion is this ?

[@PraisingWithFriends]

Sad.

[@Abcdefghijk920]

It’s a scam. The whole church is

[@sanikamnjoshi]

The musical was damn good. Is this the OG cast? Lol.

[@williammueller6639]

And now they can't say Mormon since the current Profit and Narcissist hated the last two Profits.

[@bopeep86]

Strange what you say. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, we were always LDS. The anti "mormon" called the members that as to mock. So the Church allowed us to just be identified as that. But nobody in the church called ourselves that until they embraced it in an ad movie...The prophet said let's not do that, and call ourselves what we actually are. Pretty simple.

[@williammueller6639]

@@bopeep86 "the church allowed you..." And now they don't. Thanks for proving my point with your word-vomit justification detailing the mental hoops you have to jump through to justify their ever-changing rules. So, if you are in a cult, how would you know?

[@rachel-leegeorge3374]

​@@bopeep86lots of members called themselves Mormons prior to that.

[@yaetoaprado8442]

@@rachel-leegeorge3374 because that was the term most commonly heard by those who mocked and children thought that was what we were called for a generation or two. or new converted members like my mom thought that was what the church members identified as. The church just takes the maligning of others like a champ, we've already proven ourselves over and over again and even better than others at times through statistics.

[@rachel-leegeorge3374]

@@yaetoaprado8442 there was a whole campaign publicly in the early 2000s, where members were encouraged by the LDS church to call themselves Mormons.

[@k1ngzgaming757]

Lmao

[@monkeyspank3005]

They deprive kids of their best years smh

[@RockerBoyWolfie]

This is great example of brainwashing

[@anthony212459]

Good little cult members.

[@rogeragness226]

But boys can wear lipstick?

[@ElmiTerencio]

loooks layk al assad,% ustroops food supply,warmongers,telcom hackers,deadsea

[@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843]

Such a cult

[@timmiestabrnak]

So culty. This is wild.

[@BlueberrySummertime]

It’s not culty is called culture Daniel 💀

[@bluelaser3415]

Damn, sounds like a prison

[@Joshua_One_Nine]

Correcting Errors A selection of changes to correct errors in the Book of Mormon. • Christ named too soon In the Book of Mormon narrative, the name of Christ is not revealed until 2 Nephi 10:3. Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ-for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name. - 2 Nephi 10:3 This necessitated that "Jesus Christ" be replaced with "the Messiah" in 1 Nephi 12:18. 1830 original edition1837 and subsequent editions1 Nephi 12:18Yea, even the word of the justice of the Eternal God, and Jesus Christ who is the Lamb of God.Yea, even the word of the justice of the Eternal God, and Jesus Christ the Messiah who is the Lamb of God. • King Benjamin still alive after being dead In the Book of Mormon narrative, Mosiah 6:5 records king Benjamin's death.

[@AnonymousMissionary]

They knew who Christ was before he appeared to them, they had prophets prophesying about Him. It did not replace it, it literally says "Jesus Christ the Messiah." Both names are in there Not sure what you mean when referring to Mosiah 6:5

[@Joshua_One_Nine]

@AnonymousMissionary I hope this clarifies your questions. 1. It is true that prophets in the Book of Mormon did prophesy about Christ long before His birth. For example, Nephi and others spoke of the coming of a Savior who would redeem mankind. However, the specific name “Jesus Christ” is not revealed until 2 Nephi 10:3 when Jacob records that an angel revealed this name to him. The change you mentioned in 1 Nephi 12:18 from "Jesus Christ" to "the Messiah" in the original and subsequent editions of the Book of Mormon could be understood as an editorial clarification. The reason for the change may have been to maintain narrative consistency, ensuring that the full name “Jesus Christ” was not used before it was revealed in the text. The prophets knew the concept of the Messiah, but the specific name was revealed later. 2. You’re correct that the current editions of the Book of Mormon include both “Jesus Christ” and “the Messiah” in 1 Nephi 12:18. This change occurred in the 1837 edition, likely to align with the broader doctrinal understanding that "Jesus Christ" and "the Messiah" refer to the same person. The original 1830 edition did not have this clarification, which may have led to some confusion. The inclusion of both titles in later editions serves to clarify that "Jesus Christ" is the specific name, and "the Messiah" is His title. 3. In Mosiah 6:5, it is recorded that King Benjamin died after anointing his son, Mosiah, as the new king. The point about King Benjamin “still being alive after being dead” likely refers to any later mention of King Benjamin in the text. These later references do not imply that King Benjamin was physically alive after Mosiah 6:5, but rather that his teachings and influence continued to be significant in the narrative. Any subsequent mentions of him reflect the enduring impact of his leadership and teachings, not a literal continuation of his life.

[@Joshua_One_Nine]

@@AnonymousMissionary The original 1830 edition does not. The original 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon has undergone numerous changes over the years. While the core message and narrative have remained consistent, there have been an estimated over 4,000 changes made to the text. These changes range from minor corrections in grammar, spelling, and punctuation to more substantive alterations that affect the wording of certain passages.

[@Joshua_One_Nine]

@AnonymousMissionary There is a significant issue regarding the changes made to the Book of Mormon over time. The original 1830 edition, which was claimed to be directly translated by Joseph Smith through divine means, should logically have no errors if it was indeed an accurate translation from God. However, the reality is that numerous changes have been made not just grammatical corrections but also substantial revisions to verses and doctrinal content. These alterations raise questions about the authenticity and accuracy of the original translation.For the specific examples of changes between the 1830 and 1981 editions of the Book of Mormon, here are some well-known instances: 1. 1 Nephi 11:18 1830 Edition: "And he said unto me, Behold, the virgin which thou seest, is the mother of God, after the manner of the flesh." 1981 Edition: "And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of the Son of God, after the manner of the flesh." 2. 1 Nephi 11:21 1830 Edition: "And the angel said unto me, Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Eternal Father!" 1981 Edition: "And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Son of the Eternal Father!" 3. 1 Nephi 11:32 1830 Edition: "And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Everlasting God, was judged of the world; and I saw and bear record." 1981 Edition: "And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Son of the everlasting God was judged of the world; and I saw and bear record." 4. Mosiah 21:28 1830 Edition: "And now Limhi was again filled with joy on learning from the mouth of Ammon that king Benjamin had a gift from God, whereby he could interpret such engravings; yea, and Ammon also did rejoice." 1981 Edition: "And now Limhi was again filled with joy on learning from the mouth of Ammon that king Mosiah had a gift from God, whereby he could interpret such engravings; yea, and Ammon also did rejoice."

[@pogiplayboy]

That under bite...you know what that says genetically?

[@iMatti00]

Who are you talking about? And what do you mean? Are you saying inbreeding or something?