ThiccFila EXPOSES How Much Gearbox Pays The Borderlands Stream Team!!!

[@MorninAfterKill]

Last night on stream we ended up stopping by ThiccFila's channel and saw that he exposed the EXACT PAY FORMULA that Gearbox and 2k uses to pay the Stream Team!!! Lets Gooooo!!!

[@blakemorris6184]

MAK I hope people start to have the value I hold you with in the borderlands community people like you are always gonna be important thx for what you do man

[@Jetaime206]

Gotta start watching your live streams tbh

[@zechlape5826]

Thank you thicc for helping out the community like this.

[@TheBarrenBaron]

47:41 & 54:30 Spitting facts MAK, no matter if I agree with you 110% or 10%, I know you're real. I've never once had to really question if you had ulterior motives, selling me a story or were some corporate dog who would sell his friends and community out for a McDonald's paycheck. You being you, is what's kept me coming back for last 9 years. I

[@stoney2732]

I tried to sell my soul once, Satan had me escorted out of and trespassed from hell.

[@spiritupgrades]

What the hell did you do?

[@nickdelozada]

I remember watching mak since the road to 30 days farming the captain Scarlett chest room crazy how much has changed in the community since then

[@DomEnrico]

Yup but people will sit their and say Mak has changed. Nah he's the same loud mouthed asshole he always was (and I mean that in the nicest way possible) but its the community around him that has changed.

[@CrowFuu]

Im a firm believer that New Tales From The Borderlands didnt even sell 10,000 Copies across all Platforms. That game is a clear sign that Gearbox has nothing but Diversity Hires on their Writing Team and people hate the Writing of BL3 and Wonderlands. I can bet that Borderlands 4 will be even worse in the Writing than BL3 and Wonderlands. If we are lucky we will have the "Skip Cutscene" option on Day One, but I dont think they will add it because they know people will always use it.

[@captainziggy82]

I’m glad bro made this, we will never get good Borderlands games UNLESS we call out the nonsense. Reward mediocrity and that’s all you’ll get.

[@daytimelantern6570]

If more people are calling out Gearbox and there lackeys on thier bullshit and keep them accountable things will get better Maks gotta keep fanning the flames

[@captainziggy82]

@@daytimelantern6570 agreed, someone gotta play the ‘bad guy’ and that’s fine

[@daytimelantern6570]

@@captainziggy82 the narrative of him being the bad guy is utter shit and deflectioon

[@multiple_errors4053]

​@@daytimelantern6570 But it's what he is.

[@tankraptor712]

Mute button giving you the works harder than gearbox

[@MorninAfterKill]

lol stoners gonna do stoner things :D

[@DomEnrico]

For K6 and Joltz, I really don't think it comes down to the money. It comes down to being able to be cool with the developers. Like has been said before, its the lifestyle they can live now, being flown out by gearbox and given the VIP treatment. When it comes down to the core of the issue its still Randy and these gearbox devs. I just imagine nothing but a bunch of thin skinned people who start crying and have to sit in a box everytime they hear a negative thing about their game. If you have good people creating this game they want honest criticism of the game, because they know what they have to work on to improve. Now they use that money the franchise has earned to silence the voices and pay off the biggest creators. Hell compare BL1 and BL2. They took the issues people have with BL1 and made a better game with BL2. I feel like these were developers who wanted to improve that game and they worked on in and created a masterpiece with BL2. I wonder how many of the people who worked on BL2 are even still employed by gearbox.

[@blakemorris6184]

This was so trippy I forgot I watched this on stream last night

[@MorninAfterKill]

lol woooo its all new content all over again for you :D

[@TheMacAtnight]

I need an explanation as to why I’m so invested in this drama/case, my consensus is that MAK has actual evidence and kinda like the politician we need and the fact I feel kinda scammed on BL3, I played it once all the way and never touched it again but I’ve played borderlands 2 multiple times after that

[@killersalesguy2581]

“Goddamn it Thicc-fila!!! You got me blue-balled! Fight the Raid Boss wth 🤦🏻‍♂️ “ 😂😂😂😂

[@Bflattened]

Back in the day 2k nextmakers kept talking about having a Diablo or Destiny styled features in Borderlands years before Wonderlands released. Gearbox listens to this feedback. When Wonderlands was revealed, I kept saying that Wonderlands was going to be a budget Diablo and people jumped down my throat for it. What did chaos chambers end up being? Budget Diablo. Call it a conspiracy theory, but I point partial blame to that kind of feedback. Wonderlands is a byproduct of community feedback that was terrible feedback distributed by the nextmakers.

[@scatered1]

ALL TIME PEAK 399?! That's hilarious! Why has Gearbox become so incompetent?

[@jamesreising470]

Just saying mak I’ve been watching you for years and I won’t stop no matter how “crazy” you seem ❤️❤️

[@kamiyal]

399 alltime high is funny as fuck. Randy is in shambles rn!

[@1monkey1typewriter]

What people who are telling you to move on don’t get is that you’re not planning to do this forever. These videos are not only shedding light on behavior that was previously unknown to most of the Borderlands community, they’re also documentation of said behavior. That means that if Borderlands 4 drops and smaller creators are being silenced for having opinions contrary to what Gearbox wants, if K6 goes full psycho in DMs again like he did with Hellfire, etc. then that pattern of behavior will now be documented for all of the Borderlands community to reference.

[@chinnCHILLA89]

Thicc to replace ole DANDYRANDY IF THEY WANNA SAVE THE FUCKING FRANCHISE!!!!!

[@thedingdingboys101]

I care because of how passionate about this game series & this community

[@ViPxRampageXx]

23:40 went to check the wayback machine and you were right, there was no mention of sponsorship until 25th march 2023 5 months later, and the part about paying for the game and not being paid for the review wasn't until 23 January 2024 9 months after that.

[@PhewZen]

I don’t want wonderlands 2 but I do want what wonderlands could have been, it genuinely could’ve been the best game in the series just based on the setting

[@DeadlyDragon935]

Don't think I will ever buy a borderlands game ever again.

[@robbob1866]

That blue balls comment was hilarious! What the hell Thicc!

[@alexpearson8778]

Petition to get ThiccFila to reupload that video with the Wotan fight at the end 😂

[@chinnCHILLA89]

Imagine this: Randy doing a magic show asking for a hundred-dollar bill from someone in the audience someone in the audience that is a fan of this magician says all right here and hands hime a hundred-dollar bill Randy shoves $100 bill into a big stupid hat with an upside-down v on it and pulls out a giant steamy piece of s*** then says give me two more twenties if you want some toilet paper to wipe the s*** off with but the toilet paper ends up being gas station paper (wonderlands in a nutshell)

[@chinnCHILLA89]

I spent over 150 atg on this piece of shite hence the dedication of the comment

[@chinnCHILLA89]

Then to find out two of my most watched channels on my account lied to us and tried to get us to go against this man and take food out of his family's mouth is pathetic and I have publicly called out k6 and joltze dude about. This andun subbed IMMEDIATELY, I SUGGEST EVERYONE TO DO THE SAME , THE BUCK STOPS HEREEEE

[@WestCoastAgent_47]

lmao love the end of this vid.

[@TrialBySquire]

I'm down for a tiny Tina's sequel IF they drop the price to $30, don't release dlc for it, and don't try to give it an infinite endgame. Just make one shot adventures that are all about story using whatever the latest borderlands mechanics are at the time. A place to experiment a bit without hurting the main franchise.

[@floridaman6643]

What does destiny player base and borderlands player base have in common? They still trust the very company that has actively worked against them.

[@Over_9OOO]

I watched this Thiccfila video very informative and clear "how this works" and "how much" you MAK chanched his mind not much time before he thought differently

[@ninjasack9134]

my favorite part about epicnng constantly promoting his redux mod is that he still can't add an endgame, meanwhile missions for the dlcs, and the actual problems with the game. It can only fix small stuff like one gun does too much self damage, or this skill doesn't have a high enough percent

[@BorderlandsBoy0]

If you search for a video call: Borderlands 3 KZbin Rewind 2019 by RCBT you’ll see a lot of good moments from the launch of BL3 including Thicflias Woton Kill and Mak getting a 300% Phaseslam Flakker from GW. And also some of the nerfs that killed the game

[@ItsaNekoTV]

hell thats how i started BL2 was the first game i played and i was a broke ass kid that traded in games and used store credit at game to play video games and for about 10 bucks BL2 was the single best game i ever got for that price

[@kreyes1126]

This is needed. The current shill squad needs to retire

[@SadSadWrld]

At this point I think the only way gearbox/ 2k will listen to us is if we just don’t even touch wonderlands 2 but we gotta get this side of yt fully on it so the “good guys” don’t get the hype train going to that fuckin game

[@loseyljosh]

Stream team sounds like a high school cheerleader clique lol

[@ariesconner4565]

Devs need the mindset of releasing a game on the ps3, and xbox 360 they finish the game then add to the game with dlc not just release unfinished games

[@gintokikintoki4965]

Blue balled so hard😂

[@tankraptor712]

Not to be a pocket watcher but I remember watching joltz like 5-6ish yrs ago and he would always talk and complain abt his job and that he dosent get paid enough on yt to quit his job, only thing is but he had videos like his ep1 gaige playthrough with 1.2m views and still consistently pulling massive numbers

[@franktownsend3483]

1:41 I actually want wonderlands 2. I love DND and I loved the base game very much. Would be down for another game even if it’s just another solid main game

[@willheismusical]

I have a KZbin that talks about what I do and have done for my mental health while being bi polar, Urban Monk 365

[@floridaman6643]

Hahah I just caught on you accidentally muted yourself. I thought my audio quit on me 😂

[@Int3rv3ntion85]

i was gonna like the video anyway but the spectrum jokes made it happped lol

[@blowmonkey51]

That on the spectrum joke around the 5 minute mark had me reeling 😂

[@BorderlandsBoy0]

When they “Fixed” The Ion Cannon they also “Fixed” a glitch/exploit using Zane’s Capstone Double barrel with a face puncher In clones hand and a cut purse relic you would get infinite ammo. Ruined my build

[@rickfsu22]

Considering some of the logic used around all this shit, I'd say the majority of borderlands biggest creators are in the deep end of the spectrum brother lmao 😂😂😂😂😂

[@MorninAfterKill]

LOL im pretty sure most people these days are :D

[@floridaman6643]

That’s what happens when your parents to drugs or alcohol when they do their baby making 😂

[@albino5995]

I hope that short term money was worth it because we will get no more good Borderlands games because all the issues were just buried! Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face!

[@Big_B2184]

anybody else notice that both joltz and k6 videos usually both of them doing pretty much the same thing?

[@DedicatedSlaya]

I Care about the Borderlands Community too! I just hope that they don't get sucked up in the Corporate Greed Fiasco like some people have. It's our wallets against the Main Villain - Randy Pitchford aka Gearbox! ijs 🙄😎👍

[@blazeesq2000]

Claptastic Voyage is a good DLC. Tiny Tina was a great DLC. The DLC's in Wonderlands are a joke. It looks the Krieg DLC in BL3 was good but not great. I never played that because I prefer BL2.

[@floridaman6643]

It was okay or even subpar and if you seen the reviews on steam before they deleted as the dlc was released you’ll see borderlands fans ripping the dlc apart because it was a slap to the face with how pathetic the dlc map was. Too similar to previous dlc’s. The only thing people liked was learning more about Krieg.

[@jerrychicks2420]

​@@floridaman6643 Yeah kreig DLC was garbage. I just wished they were able to put more in the pre sequel. It had a lot of potential.

[@alienamongus1830]

Been watching your Wolf Among Us playthrough for the past few days now 😂 you going to play the second game when it drops??

[@MorninAfterKill]

I didnt even know they were doing a sequel tbh...i must look into this now lol

[@alienamongus1830]

@@MorninAfterKill hell yea yo. I'm hyped for the game, I'm sure it'll be just as good as the first. I hope to see you do a playthrough when it finally drops!

[@Fluctuatingmiasma]

I have fun playing borderlands 3, I'll take 36k a year to tell people that gearbox, i don't have a channel or anything but what do you expect for minimum wage

[@BorderlandsBoy0]

To be completely fair most die hard BL fans just watched someone else play New Tales of the Borderlands because even the fans didn’t have faith in the game. Also no one asked for Wonderlands and yet everyone went crazy even tho it was obvious from the first trailer it was a copy paste job of BL3 with worse writing

[@The_13th_Vessel]

What's your opinion on EruptionFang?

[@taylerphoenix9388]

Hi Mak, theres a very small youruber called WholyMilk that is running the new torgue mod and some interesting challenge runs that have never been done before. Hes really good but hes sitting at a lowly 2k subs. Just wondered if you could shout him out (if you havent already)

[@David-he7nw]

People getting more veiws bitching about borderlands than playing it...man this drama wont end...to many veiws lol.

[@spiritupgrades]

Wut

[@David-he7nw]

There are more vids complaining about than gameplay is all I was saying. @@spiritupgrades

[@derekwilhelm1555]

Why the fuck dont they ever fix the issues on the older games like bl2 on ps5 i always crash when u get to sanctuary and get to the scooter cutscene and there alot of gamebreaking bugs too not just that that dont give a shit after the launch of a game they just dont care

[@floridaman6643]

Honestly, this is the first time I’ve ever heard about that and I’ve put roughly 4k hours into the game. Are you sure it’s not the ps5 software because that particular issue never happened on ps4 or even xbox one. (I’ve played on every platform possible, bit of a fanboy)

[@derekwilhelm1555]

@@floridaman6643 i just think its not optimized for ps5 n im not a fanboy idk if that even matters i justs prefer PlayStation i played it my whole life

[@triple6274]

Just back from work what happened

[@GamutGaming]

Every review site that had reviews day one also had early access to the game. Show me proof that each one said they got it early. No no proof guess what early access doesn’t mean sponsored. They want reviews out at launch for the sales Idjiot

[@JosephLacey-q1r]

lol bro I got the ultimate jewfro ong.

[@vicentereyes8073]

Cmon mak they was just getting there bread now we understand lmao still wrong tho of them to go out the way to put you down and not even give say on the low like aye we getting our money

[@MorninAfterKill]

I dont care about them getting paid...thats whatever...its that they hid the fact they were getting paid them making vids like BRUTALLY HONEST REVIEWS to deceive the community into thinking these were actual organic gamers views

[@vicentereyes8073]

@@MorninAfterKill very true and the fact they were getting paid to basically be silent about the but when you were updating the community with news they took it upon themselves to try and sabotage you which is just sad they were out of line

[@ClayBoyce]

I watched all the vids. You make claims and show pics on Twitter of joltz and what he has to say, and then you get mad and claim that “they drug my name through the mud” you were the one that plummeted due to you not streaming anymore, and took a long ass break on borderlands 3 while everyone like joltz stayed and played the game. I understand your criticism and you telling people to “try again” but in my mind they always stayed true to the game even if they are big creators and probably only do it for the money because it’s their career, basically it’s their business and their way of income. It shouldn’t be a problem especially if joltz minds his own business. And if you wanna change my mind, feel free to reply to this comments with links to him dragging your name through the mud, and “slicing your throat”. I want evidence that he’s a piece of garbage.

[@ClayBoyce]

You can’t sit there and claim all day that you made joltz and how he copies you too. Especially when all of his pics for his vids have been the exact same for years, when it comes down to borderlands there’s not much else to show because the game is indeed unique with its style. I used to love your vids man, I loved watching you everyday. But intense drama between creators won’t solve anything, especially when you can’t really show much for it as much as you try. There’s no hate, it’s just a giant amount of people that can back them up yk, I know you’ll keep on going until one of them replies, and honestly I think k6 might. Fuck that guy lol.

[@MorninAfterKill]

@@ClayBoyce I walked away from content creation after all the harassment and negativity I got from Joltz and K6's community calling me a liar on every upload afterwards...go search through Reddit if you wanna see a documentation of all of it...even K6 talking smack. Like I said it's not easy being drug through the mud.

[@MoreHyenas]

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[@strangerofthe2067]

Wait, what did you just say about them taking out PPP loans? 😂 wtf lol why tf would a youtuber take a PPP loan? Or I guess I should say, what LEGITIMATE reason would a single person who makes KZbin videos that doesn’t have a company and employees relying on them have to take a PPP loan? I never heard about any of that shit, you have any videos with more info on it?

[@MorninAfterKill]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHrWc2Wpmq5narc

[@psyches2493]

I'll add that if you were to be more positive with the bigger CCs, they might all want to help with the major problems that root mainly from gearbox. You slander the CCs like they're the major problem when in reality you know that if gearbox did the thing you wanted, you would not be mad at the CCs.

[@floridaman6643]

Tf are you on big bro 😂. Edit: never mind you’re just acoustic as I can see your previous comments.

[@psyches2493]

@@floridaman6643 Definitely not the copium you're smoking if you seriously are going to defend the source of the problem.

[@lilzeddy]

ha u think bl3 is cheeks play that tales from the borderlands game not the first one thats a hood classic the SECOND one is just filth edit: oh haha u mentioned it nvm

[@psyches2493]

I see your frustrations bust please for the love of god why are you mad at other content creators and not only gearbox themselves? Also if you were as entertaining as them, I would assume you would also gain as much views w/o a sponsorship or any contract. but please make yourself a victim and blame the other content creators.

[@MorninAfterKill]

lol I got just as much if not more views than they when Borderlands 3 was around...heading into Borderlands 4 we need to purge all this out of the community before we can move forward

[@Denkmaldrubernacht]

Honestly I don't see the issue of people being sponsored to make content

[@tylerstudybaker]

if you can still stomach watching creators who are the very reason that the games won't get better, then you can do that.

[@MorninAfterKill]

@@Denkmaldrubernacht sponsorship isnt the issue. the issue is they didnt disclose it to their largest audience on KZbin like they should have. people have a right to know if the reviews/opinions they're watching are bought and paid for.

[@rickfsu22]

He never said he had a problem with people getting sponsored by gearbox, but when they're not disclosing it on all the content then it makes it seem like they're only paid on twitch and not youtube. They were paid for their sugar coated opinions about the game the whole time ​@@Denkmaldrubernacht

[@eyeballc13]

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[@triple6274]

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