Mortal Kombat 1 Is Kind Of A Mess...

[@C0LIN.]

Thread for responses to comments I’ve gotten: “He doesn’t know about evil Sindel” that’s not really an argument she loses to Mileena and almost dies to good Sindel 1 on 1…

[@sasaki999pro]

To be fair. That Sindel scene from MK9 was also stupid AF and pretty much everyone unanimously agreed as such. Like half the cast lined up like bowling pins and jobbed super hard to put evil sindel over and set up the revenant plotline. It was pretty stupid overall not gonna lie. Some people also forget that the game is also literally over a decade old so naturally the audience that actually played it is going to shrink substantially over time in proportion to the target demographic. Its been enough time for a child to start their first day of kindergarten and then graduate high school into adulthood.

[@Arthur_____Morgan]

To be fair mortal Kombat has always been that way

[@CARLOSTORRES-nr9bv]

I agree what you said aboutMK1

[@AegisKHAOS]

Nevermind they referenced the most hated MK9 scene ever. I thought it was bad that while good Sindel and Mileena managed to give evil Sindel a fight, Fire God Liu Kang, of all people, went down with just ONE KICK from evil Sindel.

[@tyroneshazernim3277]

Hey, your how powerful is spider man Ps4 was awesome. Can you do one for Miles Morales to?

[@OxyMoronicTV]

Within the mortal kombat fandom, it's become tradition to accept mediocre stories

[@scottchaison1001]

Don't say stupid things.

[@OxyMoronicTV]

@@scottchaison1001 whats ur problem?

[@scottchaison1001]

@@OxyMoronicTV What's yours?

[@OxyMoronicTV]

@@scottchaison1001 i dont have one

[@scottchaison1001]

@@OxyMoronicTV I doubt it.

[@raqueltyrant]

I thought that people missed the not sympathetic villains that are just evil to be evil. Shang tsung wanted to merge the timeline and kill everyone just because he was petty fr.

[@hurricane7727]

It's the Mk11 Aftermath Shang Tsung

[@j.i.nthenobody54]

That and him and Liu Kang are D1 haters to each other. If Shang didn’t find out about Liu’s timeline, Liu probably would’ve and invaded his

[@juniorjunior5884]

I think people's issue is that tsung came off as a crafty guy who would only make calculated risks. He barely got control of the hourglass in his ending, gambling with a multiverse where his greatest rival is the one who won comes off as stupid. I can see him doing it, but only if he really stacked the deck in a future game. But it's not a bad choice to make him the final boss.

[@chrismarple]

The probably with mk villains is that they are all that way. And they are all just one off villains that are brought in at the beginning and then die/lose and rinse and repeat. The writing is horrible.

[@obrians-brown1307]

I think the fact Mileena is being treated is why she's so different. I think the treatment is causing a mutation in the disease for making it more volatile and aggressive as seen by her instant bloodlust and the way her mouth opens.

[@C0LIN.]

Ur writing for the story lol

[@obrians-brown1307]

@@C0LIN. I should? Or do I suck at story writing too? 🤣

[@C0LIN.]

@@obrians-brown1307 No I’m saying that what ur doing in ur original comment, that’s why I said “ur writing for the story” bc what u said not really an argument that has any support from the narrative

[@obrians-brown1307]

@@C0LIN. You are right

[@scottchaison1001]

@@obrians-brown1307 He isn't right.

[@Phoenixyy2k]

I'm maining smoke only because he's voiced by Yuri Lowenthal

[@Eonslight]

Extremely solid reason to main him respect

[@Natezilla_2]

Yuri's the GOAT

[@RedhoodBeyond]

Smoke is my favorite MK character and he's voiced by one of my favorite voice actors. That's one fat W

[@Nah..__406]

Same

[@theartassassin1865]

PREACH

[@_Doxcy_]

The mileena bit feels a lot like you need to be directly told exactly why things are the way they are to understand things. Being bloodthirsty doesnt mean they become mindless zombies. The original tarkatans were bloodthirsty, but had a fully functioning society. Its more like they lose their original sense of self and become a bit more animolistic. Mileena has been inflicted with tarkat for a very long time, as implied by the "been gathering for months". The treatment keeps it at bay. When she doesnt receive treatment, shes overhwlemed with the bloodlust all at once, making her act way crazier than the tarkatans who have been living with it slowly building up over time.

[@cvak6887]

Bro didn’t even see the comment but yeah I was like “what?” 😭

[@djthakidd1]

he didnt play any of the other games and doesn’t get why he didn’t understand the pore😂

[@DatcleanMochaJo]

​@@djthakidd1If the game can't explain the lore needed to understand the story in a reboot and being asked to play at least 3 other games is dumb. What a low IQ argument you and the user above said.

[@7quantumphysics]

Sindel from the older timeline was made to be OP! Canonically she was always powerful, but they went crazy in MK9, where Shao Khan took all of Shang Tsung’s power and added it to hers, giving her the ability to literally body everyone in the room. That was similar to this cutscene in MK1. I was disappointed it happened back then, but I guess at least it holds up to how broken they wrote her character in the previous game. As for other things about characters that seemingly come out of nowhere, like Jarred regaining control of Ermac, and Titan Shang Tsung having Dio Brando energy towards Liu Kang, many of these are callbacks to previous games. So even though this is a reboot of sorts, you get more out of the story from being invested in the characters in previous games. Sadly, it leaves everyone else going “wha…ok then😅”

[@gringles]

It’s hard to believe that Sindel would slap everyone away, just to lose to Mileena. Nightwolf at least nuked himself to take her out. Sindel literally flips Geras onto his back and that knocks him out. We’re talking about a being that can’t be killed.

[@kzakulenga5138]

The stupidity of that scene REALLY hurts the characters involved if you think about it. Titan Shang got his asswhupped by Liu so bad at the Pyramid in the finale that Quan Chi had to sneak attack Liu and immobilize him. Twindel defeats Liu Kang in Mileena's chapter alongside everyone else. Twindel defeated Liu, former Mortal Kombat champion Liu,Fire God Liu Kang. Keeper of Time Fire God Liu Kang. By herself; Twindel DEFEATED everyone in the room including Liu but minus Mileena (because of plot armor and bad writing) The point I'm making is that Titan Shang struggled with Liu in their 1v1 but Twindel beat his ass and every one elses despite the fact that she was outnumbered. By the logic of that Scene Twindel and Mileena are the most powerful characters in this new era That is fucking terrible 😅😂😅😂😂😂

[@Martianig]

5:49 it’s because that’s what happened in the last timeline Shang tsung was actually a earth realm champion but he cheated in mortal kombat and the elder gods cursed him then he became evil

[@oni8526]

Yup

[@C0LIN.]

Ok sure, still doesn’t explain why he gave Shang Tsung a shitty life

[@obrians-brown1307]

​@@C0LIN.Maybe because he's inherently evil so if he did have a good life and accessiblity he might have twist it for evil means? I don't know. I just thinking without Damashi help he wouldn't amount to much a quack snake oil salesman other say if he was in a position to get his hands on finances and resources.

[@archon9648]

​@@C0LIN. If I remember correctly this was explained in the story mode. Liu Kang altered the lives of all the Mortal Kombat villains so they were no longer threats. He gave Shang Tsung a meaningless life so he would no longer be a threat to the realms like in past timelines, thereby making him useless.

[@C0LIN.]

@@archon9648 I don’t even think this is stated in the story, but let’s say hypothetically it was. This still doesn’t counter the comment ur replying to😂

[@arllyfat_cat9678]

A lot of the issues here could be so easily fixed if they just removed the character chapter system and had fights choose the character on a fight by fight basis, like in Street Fighter 5 which has a better structure because of it. Or maybe like SoulCalibur 6, where they have the main story then smaller individual character stories, including DLC characters and guest fighters. I do like MK1s story, it's definitely the best MK story NeatherRealm Studios has put out, but the chapter system being gutted then ripped in half could solve a good chunk of these issues.

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

Huh?

[@aSTROnomical_8]

The irony honestly is even though it’s a reboot you actually lose quite a bit of perspective on the story from not knowing the previous stories. Sounds kinda weird since it’s a reboot but it actually helps a lot to know the previous stories.

[@DatcleanMochaJo]

Right but even with context some of the writing is silly.

[@austinsavage5962]

As someone who watched you stream this game im just gonna say you have no room really talking about the gameplay when you dont even fully grasp it

[@C0LIN.]

I won’t argue with u there

[@true128]

The reason you were not able to grab the person is because you cant grap someone who is still recovering from a hit , and also different characters have different grab ranges

[@Jay.A.Y]

22:59 you couldn’t grab sub cause he was still in hit stun from the forward 1. You can get the grab when you stagger on block

[@MrDegenerate28]

I really like the story despite the valid criticism And I think a lot of it has to do with your knowledge of the previous mortal Kombat games you'll really appreciate the changes to the characters And how better the story is compared to mk11. Having said that I think the biggest problem with NRS story mode is that since this is only a 4 to 6 hour campaign It doesn't have time to really explore a lot of characters because some of your complaints are actually resolve in the character arcade endings that give you more context to things. I really hope one day NRS will do a Shaolin Monk style game based off of this new timeline because a lot of what they set up here is so good that I would love to explore it a more greater detail.

[@eternalwisdom7164]

Are u slow😂😂mk11 story mode wass 1000times better than mk1 story ....trash people like are the reason y we have mk1 to begin with....

[@AmariX90]

You really don’t know anything. I suggest you watch or play the previous games mk9 , mkx, and mk11 to understand

[@khyranvaughn]

That’s what I’m saying 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@C0LIN.]

Debunk? Argument?

[@AmariX90]

@@C0LIN. I’ll agree with the takes on Sub-zero not killing Shang, scorpion and sub-zero losing to the outworld soldiers and kenshi surviving but (alt) mileena dying to the same attack. I think kenshi should’ve gone blind another way.(But it’s mortal kombat so shit like that happens when characters should’ve died to something but didn’t) I’m saying to watch or play the games I listed bcuz you don’t know why Liu kang gave him a shitty life, you don’t why the (alt) Shang wants to destroy everything and merge liu kangs timeline to his. And also the sindel thing too. You’ll only understand watching mk9

[@AmariX90]

@batmanarkhamfan-cr4do not tryna be mean but he’ll probably complain about them all as well 🤷🏾‍♂️. He could also just watch the history of the game too

[@connorharnage6697]

Plz do not suggest those trash fire stories to anyone ever again. MK9-11 was a dark age in terms of MK storytelling, one I'm glad we're slowly getting out of

[@petesaguy1707]

NRS writers aren't very intelligent or talented but they know how to throw a bunch of cool things into a story and hope it's mindless enough to sedate most people from questioning the inconsistencies and idiocy. Big fights, one liners, callbacks, plot twists, blood, guts, and cameos are all these guys know, and I guess that's enough for casuals who don't care about things making sense.

[@scottchaison1001]

Don't say stupid things.

[@jermaineelliott2685]

This is possibly the best summary of NRS I've read. Ever.

[@hammer-0]

Evil sindel was from the previous timeline who actually did kill everyone. well not everyone but a lot of characters and almost killed johhny cage in previous timeline. I think the thing about liu kang letting johhny film is valid because it will help johhny out plus earth realm would think it's just a movie not that it's actually real and telling from johhny cage tower ending thats exactly what it was he uses those recordings to have ideas for a movie earth realm doesn't know anything about out world they just know they are movies. And liu kang giving shang sung a meaningless life wasn't really a bad thing because then they couldn't become the enemy the only reason they did was because of evil shang sung also there destiny are because of themselves liu kang started there lives but if shang sung wanted to he could actually try and help people but he didn't his meaningless life could have been better because he has the free will to do so but he chose not to make his life better so that isn't really liu kang fault tbh. Also for a long time now mortal kombat is a very inconsistent franchise so anything that happens you kinda have to deal with i started around mk armageddon and got use to the inconsistent stuff when mk 10 came out that's basically the flow of this game anyone can beat anyone.

[@C0LIN.]

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[@LoksTheGamer]

Imagine Johnny credited Liu Kang as God at the end of the movie. The amount of confusion people watching that would be funny asf 😂

[@hammer-0]

@@LoksTheGamer fr 😂

[@hammer-0]

​@@C0LIN.Thxs colin

[@hammer-0]

@batmanarkhamfan-cr4do oh then yeah you right

[@ephesiangaming2302]

Liu Kang was just a normal Earthrealm champion until Aftermath, do you really think his first endeavor into the timeline was going to be perfect when Kronika herself admits to messing it up several times. I also think the "issue" with certain characters beating other characters they shouldn't is to show the balance in the MK Universe, anyone can win. That's why people like Lord Raiden and Fire God Liu Kang aren't completely unstoppable entities.

[@C0LIN.]

I never said I expected it to be perfect I expected Lui Keng to use common sense in shaping the lives of people he considers could be a possible threat. Also “characters beating other characters…” this doesn’t make sense there’s people in this world that are very obviously more skilled, more powerful, and better in fights than others. That’s not an excuse for inconsistency

[@ephesiangaming2302]

@@C0LIN. Lui Kang also states he believes in free will, his main goal is a peaceful timeline but he will not control the people. That's why Shao Kahn is a respected general instead of a feared emperor, thats why Rain is a high priest instead of a power hungry demi god. He set them on the right path but he didn't control that path. Also consistency can be boring a lot of the time, MK has always had that type of story. Its more about over the top, emotional, rising to the challenge beats then it is about telling a realistic story. Anyways though love your vids and conversations homie keep up the fantastic work!

[@scottchaison1001]

​@@ephesiangaming2302This story is pretty good.

[@char1363]

​@@ephesiangaming2302And if you think about it more Shao doesnt start hus insurrection until Shang shows up because before Shang Shao was working under Sindel of centuries

[@kelvinjones5502]

I feel like the story was Pretty good and made sense to a degree. people also forget in fights to the death anything can happen.Even if your honed skills give u the advantage it can’t guarantee you will win 100% it’s always the 1% u can lose no matter how skilled u r as shown in fiction and real life

[@sencha5572]

"So evil Sindel can beat up every single person here at the same time-" Oh he doesn't know...

[@C0LIN.]

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[@sencha5572]

@@C0LIN. It was more of joke really

[@dr.mixer8930]

Yeah as least they didn't actually have evil sindel kill most of them like in mk 9

[@Max1mus449]

5:37 it’s revealed in Johnny’s arcade ending that liu kang choose him as one of the champions because he wanted him to tell earthrealmers about outworld through his movies

[@irequirecalcium1959]

Welcome to the writing team of NRS, this is strangely some of the best writing they’ve had if you don’t count the Injustice games.

[@Hajime790]

This is strangely some of the worst writing they've had

[@Nightlizard1564]

@@Hajime790nah the worst writing was definitely with 11

[@mel-el5862]

Mk1 story is trash

[@irequirecalcium1959]

@@mel-el5862 welcome to writing in fighting games buddy

[@mel-el5862]

@@irequirecalcium1959 poor excuse for a shit story.

[@caldervanegas240]

okay look I’ve been on your side of a lot of complaints with S.K. But now you have basically became him, Like keep on complaining about very small things that you really shouldn’t be thinking about like Shang tsung not killing the group which is just a story thing. I have feeling you’re going just reply and say how I’m fucking stupid or something. But really don’t care and I’m just going tell you this that most of the things you complained are very nitpicking and clearly don’t fully understand Mortal Kombat

[@J1210mk2]

Me too

[@C0LIN.]

Explain how Shang Tsung not killing people he considers a “loose end” is a nitpick it’s quite literally just him having inconsistent writing… And explain how every other thing is a nit pick, or debunk this video…

[@caldervanegas240]

He probably wanted to keep them alive for experiments, Shang tsung has a big ego it fits his character and yes I saw the video. I really don’t want to have a bad feud with you I so want to make a clear that I’m just giving criticism to your arguments and I don’t really feel like just saying cursing at each other is going to do anything.@@C0LIN.

[@J1210mk2]

Shang probably saw them as weak and he then underestimated them.

[@caldervanegas240]

@batmanarkhamfan-cr4do I’m not afraid just want to keep the peace and also had some bad experiences let’s say that

[@Lazyllama-ro1jh]

It’s funny how this was a reboot but the last game was extremely important for this one

[@KWTN316]

Because it was a soft reboot, a different version of the entire games story that’s still connected to the previous ones

[@rymreaper]

General shao was treated terribly Since you have like 5 fights per character I was really expecting raiden to lose the tornament It would've been a great twist and a different departure from older games. Heroes losing a tournament on screen? Hell yes. But nah farmbou raiden defeats reiko and shao. And after watching the story losing the tournament wouldn't have severely affected the plot anyways, since sindel is nice and still in control. She could convince shao to not conquer since "look the prophecy is wrong this time because we won so hold your horses" . Also, instead of the npcs , general shao capturing Scorpion and sub zero would've atleast redeemed him somehow. But nah they were in over their head with dumb writing

[@hurricane7727]

In Mk Deception Opening Raiden 's Earthrealm Champions had Failed to Stop the Deadly Alliance and were Defeated and a Similar Situation happened in Mk Legends Snow Blind.

[@ItsAssFace]

General Shao should've only lost to Raiden or Sindel because at least them 2 make some sense, him losing to Reptile and Scorpion really makes him feel like a jobber whos only strong during cutscenes.

[@rymreaper]

@@hurricane7727 back then when victory felt earned Threats felt like a threat

[@rymreaper]

@@ItsAssFace that reptile scene was unnecessary

[@dr.mixer8930]

What are jobbers anyways?

[@StillND]

It’s funny you mentioned about Geras not being Timekeeper so that Liu Kang wouldn’t sacrifice anything in Chapter 12, because- (⚠️⚠️⚠️SPOILER ALERT, if you haven’t beat a Tower as Liu Kang or Geras!!! ⚠️⚠️⚠️) -in Liu Kang & Geras’ Tower Endings, it’s explained that after Liu Kang went back to just being a protector of Earthrealm, he lost his immortality. And knowing that, he assigned Geras as the new Timekeeper and Geras gladly accepted it.

[@DeadKaat]

Honestly the story wasnt too bad, some weird choices on pacing and chapters but other than that way better than X and 11 IMO. For me the gameplay with Kameos is really fun and opens up alot of new combo routes depending on the kameo you select. As someone whos kind of a nerd about that stuff, it appeals to me alot. My only gripes (pc specific) is the lag spikes when it comes to special tower effects and and transitioning between gameplay and winscreen. Games been out for a month now and its still now great on pc lol. Great video

[@Jay_daewi]

I get that this is a new story with new backgrounds and all, but this story has wayyyy too much tell don’t show. Like every time a new character showed up there was always a 5 minute yap session. Reptile: oh no shang has my familyyyyy oh noooo. Baraka: I’m sufferinggggggg I’m sick oh nooooo. Ashura: I’m a demon who wants to be human oh noooooo. Nitara: that blades enchanted. Kenshi: yakuza oh nooooooo

[@dashawnstallings3169]

18:21 if you go to Mortal Kombat nine from 2011, Sindell whoops everybody’s ass back in 2011

[@Cranberrymaster1]

The reason why he says we are many. You are one is because Ermac is an analymation of souls. And it's just those 2 people.

[@firesoul5943]

it's not just a reboot it's the series'second reboot

[@_Doxcy_]

20:55. Geras is a construct. A fixed point. We dont even know if hes capable of becoming a titan (which he probably cannot). Furthermore, because he trusts liu kangs judgement, it is likely better than liu becomes a titan again. Rather than geras who would eventually be left alone to guide the universe after liu kangs eventual death

[@JodyGoChase]

5:42 - it was revealed in Johnny’s tower ending that Liu Kang planned for Johnny to introduce earth realm to the real shit by making a ”cinematic universe“ based on what happened in the game 8:35 that’s just… an MK staple. You can get thrown around, slashed, burned, but carry on with your day

[@blessedxxiii8908]

spittin facts spidey👑💯 -story feels rushed and makes no sense -gameplay is good that sums up netherealm studios lmao

[@themancalledben2731]

It's kinda cool hearing the perspective of someone who's not into MK or the genre.

[@The_Punisher]

Not really

[@Dctctx]

If that’s the case, their opinion is worthlesd

[@luherrera8118]

@@DctctxNo it’s not. A good game should be good independent of the previous entries in their franchise. New fans are good for the series and for the FGC.

[@JuntaoMasta]

The reason Shang Tsung talks like that is because they’re trying to capture a similar performance done by Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa. Who played the role of the original Shang Tsung from the 1995 movie and then reprised his role in MK11. Even tho there’s been different but good VA’s for Shang Tsung before, the way Cary Tagawa delivers his lines is so iconic and fit the character so well that many people love it this way.. As for why they couldn’t just get Cary himself back to reprise the role, nobody really knows.. I heard a rumor that he’s actually dealing with an illness and that’s why he didn’t come back but I REALLY hope that’s not true :(… But, I think the VA they got for this Shang does a really good job imitating the same charm that Cary brings to the character. It’s not perfect, but pretty dang close… Also, I recommend checking out MK11, goes on sale quite often for 5 bucks. It may help you understand the story a little bit better, atleast MK1’s story 😂

[@LordEmpyreal]

The bit you didnt get about the alternate timeline Shang Tsung is that he: A) Considers Liu Kang his greatest enemy and would consider killing everyone in his timeline the ultimate victory against him. And B) Is a conqueror who just discovered after eons that there is more to conquer after already being ultimate ruler of his entire timeline.

[@hurricane7727]

That is Mk11 Aftermath Shang Tsung .

[@sasaki999pro]

This games story is like 1/3rd compelling prologue narrative and 2/3rds sequence of contrivances and references that are only to facilitate a climax where NRS said "F**K IT you want fan service?? You want justice for your favorite character?? do it yourself!!" and just let you choose who the hero of the multiverse was gonna be.

[@boredflandre8234]

I always feel they brought in Armageddon waaay too early, like there was no build up on it.

[@tremaynehawthorne8273]

Also, how are Havik and Baraka able to properly pronounce words with B, F, P, and V in them with no lips? 🤔🤣🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Jojo-nq3bp]

the stairs/armageddon final scene is a throwback to mk armageddon

[@blessedxxiii8908]

thanks sherlock holmes

[@Melon-Head1789]

My theory to why kenshi's sword didn't "guide him" until now was because Johnny was wielding it and not Kenshi, so really its someone who has a relation to sento (the sword) can then be awaken. But thats just a theory a... I'll shut up 😐

[@BlaxkSun]

Here’s the thing, a lot of what you said instantly gets dismissed cause you don’t know about the story of previous games. This is a rebooted time line but it’s apart of the aftermath timeline, the titan Shang Sung… matter a fact hold up

[@J1210mk2]

@@TOXICFREAK2021It’s more of a soft reboot/sequel despite the name being MK1.

[@austinsavage5962]

@@TOXICFREAK2021its a soft reboot so you still have to understand the story line to comprehend the story

[@BlaxkSun]

Like Baraka has never been that power, but he has been able to hold his own. Sindel killed like 5 or 6 characters in rapid succession in 9. Yes, Bi-Han might be in the process of almost killing Shang but if someone comes out of nowhere screaming bloody murder, you will stop to. I’m not saying the story is perfect, but what I am saying is as someone who made 2 hour long response video to a guy and manning a crusade against people trashing on Spiderman in both game and comics, I know you know you need to have the full story to get the full context.

[@C0LIN.]

@@BlaxkSun 1. You're telling me Sub Zero of all people is gonna be flustered by a bunch of random NPCs, also did u forget about everything else I mentioned in that scene lol? 2. "Sindel killed...." I addressed this in the pinned comment 3. Baraka being able to hold his own doesn't discredit anything I said

[@C0LIN.]

This isn't really an argument and ur explanations in this thread, as well as similar comments haven't provided one either

[@BlaxkSun]

Okay yeah exactly, you really need to play the previous games man cause yes, Evil Sindel is the one resurrected from 9.l, who’s done the same thing.

[@C0LIN.]

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[@BlaxkSun]

@@C0LIN. first of all I’d like thank the academy for this honor, to my peers maybe next time, @C0LIN. Keep up the good work. This one just wasn’t it.

[@C0LIN.]

@@BlaxkSun I was telling u to read the pinned comment lol

[@BlaxkSun]

@@C0LIN. you had me pinned for second my bad

[@connorharnage6697]

@@C0LIN.I see a lot of people saying this and I just wanna clarify because they're all wrong. The Evil Sindel in this game is NOT the Sindel for on MK9 but a new version after Shang Tsung created a new timeline at the end of MK11. This makes your critique even more valid as the MK9 Sindel at least had the excuse of being powered up by the countless souls Shang Tsung had absorbed over his life before Shao Kahn (General Shao in the old timeline) transfered them to her

[@NiohArcadia]

It's a non in-game reason but the reason why many characters don't die in this game is because they have to be playable in the next games so the writers don't have to try as hard to come up with scenarios and so Netherrealm doesn't have to make as many new characters so they don't fuck up everything like last time... even though they already did with this timeline bullshit and Lui Kang being a fucking idiot. Also were talking about a franchise where resurrections, evil versions, and zombie versions of characters are common place so I see no reason to actually kill some characters to at least give the Illusion of this franchise having some balls until the next installment

[@AegisKHAOS]

I gone through the vid, and as much as I found M1K's story to be a huge improvement over MK11, you're not wrong. The story absolutely has issues, much of them carried over from previous games. You really don't have to know the story of previous games to point out most power inconsistencies, logical choices, eye stabbing, etc. Heck, as clever as certain aspects has been, like making both Aftermath's endings canon, I did not want to see multiple timelines in the story. Time travel itself was bad in MK11. A MK multiverse is something I would rather the game not do. And I never thought Shao Khan could get even more castrated, yet NRS told me to hold their beer. That said, I still enjoyed its story, enough to make me mostly forget about MK11.

[@hurricane7727]

We had a Good Shao though which Rocked.

[@AegisKHAOS]

@@hurricane7727 For one chapter where everyone is selectable. Too bad. It was a cool moment I could use more of, regardless of writing.

[@scottchaison1001]

@@AegisKHAOS Don't say stupid things.

[@kribby6730]

The Shang Tsung that loses to Baraka isn't the main villain of the game. The main villain is a titan version of Shang Tsung from the previous game (equivalent to Liu Kang in power). Also, the reveal of Titan Shang Tsung doesn't work if you don't know the story up until this point. The reveal is less that it's Shang Tsung and more that the alternate timeline exists and that the seeds that the game was planting about Kronika being Damashi were not true. Also, Shang Tsung is evil, yeah he wants to conquer every timeline, that just makes sense. I genuinely feel that a lot of this video is silly nitpicks that really don't affect the quality of the story in a horrid way. I get if that's the kind of video you want to make, but I also feel like you should probably have a good amount of knowledge about the franchise you're talking about when you make that kind of content. Your assessment of Geras, Shang Tsung, and Liu Kang are severely brought down by this lack of knowledge and your engagement to the twist is obviously lessened.

[@Jojo-nq3bp]

your complains really just boil down to the chapter system we all complain about- every one has 4 fights and like 20 minutes of focus the campaign too is short but at the end of the day, it's a fighting game so idk what to say anymore😂😂

[@TheRealMichaelJonesJr]

he wasn’t proven worthy of leading his clan that’s why sentó wasn’t speaking to him yet, plus he barely just got the sword

[@TheRealMichaelJonesJr]

the first fights in the johnny cage movie was literally there to show that he’s still a movie star or at least an actor like he’s always been, also it was to show that he’s failing as an actor and the movie was being made because the director literally owed johnny so that was the point of the movie, then after in Johnny’s mansion his wife literally made the point that they’re in debt or they are going broke

[@raykincaid7619]

The same person who got after SK for appealing to reality kept repeating “he should be dead” or “they should be dead”

[@wingsofsigma]

in a mortal kombat game 💀

[@C0LIN.]

I’m appealing to reality because people are consistently shown to die from this type of damage in the world… Sure makes sense, so than explain Mileena dying from the same thing? (Nobody in Spider-Man PS4 is shown to would have died from the things S.K. brought up he also even brought up gameplay moments)

[@thatboyakira4202]

​@@C0LIN.I can honestly just watch your videos because as soon as I enter the comment section... It's just... It gives me aneurysm every time. Never have I seen a more toxic community both in favor and against the creator. The videos are fire tho, I love them.

[@ragewireloki6213]

⁠He isn’t asking for realism, he is asking for consistency. His Kenshi example was to show how inconsistent the game is with what kills you and what doesn’t. Kenshi gets stabbed through the eyes? Still lives. Mileena gets stabbed through the eyes? RIP. Spider-Man consistently shows how people don’t die from certain things that would probably kill you IRl, but its at least consistently inaccurate.

[@thatboyakira4202]

@@ragewireloki6213 what does your comment have to do with mine?

[@rymreaper]

Ok about kenshi, it's extremely RARE like one in a billion chance that someone can survive thar attack. There have been irl cases where people got shot through head and still survived. A person had a 7 feet rod completely go through his skull and he managed to live. I still would have preferred the sais to not go THAT deep. Like it could've had the same shock value even it only pierced like an inch only

[@LluviaLuvRain]

Yes but that hit him in a spot where he could survive

[@Justin94339]

lots of people would disagree with this take.

[@The_Punisher]

He should stick with Spider-Man

[@Why____Not]

Well, we (MK fans) are used to bad stories, so we think this is good when this is bad, just better than X,11, and 9.

[@C0LIN.]

If they can form an actual argument that debunks my arguments they’re more than welcome

[@C0LIN.]

@@The_PunisherDebunk?

[@lilzodiacahmad7298]

So uh that Sindel scene.. who uh who wants to tell him 😂

[@C0LIN.]

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[@bananaluma]

10:09 because they aren't actual tarkatans, they're clones. (so they probably don't have "natural" or "biological" tarkatan blood)

[@brandons.hernandez3368]

MK9 has the best gameplay, roster, soundtrack, contents, etc. MKX & MK11 is a mid, MKX has the best gameplay combo system while MK11 has the best visual graphics & effects, but both failed in the story unfortunately. MK1 … … … REALLY DO I NEED TO SAY IT LOUDER!!!??? That game is a total disaster, huge disappointment game, I feel that Mr. Boon & NRS has left the building

[@J1210mk2]

You kinda need to play the previous games to understand the story.

[@C0LIN.]

Majority of the criticisms in this video I don’t need to have to played the other games

[@J1210mk2]

Quite a few of them are explained in previous games.

[@C0LIN.]

@@J1210mk2 I mean maybe but from all the rebuttals I’ve heard so far it doesn’t really

[@dindoyop7478]

Not really, the mk lore is stupid

[@mohammadirbazakbar1377]

First thing i have to say is, WOW this video is a lot. 2nd, the things that happen in this story like kenshi surviving mileena or baraka beating shang tsung or sub-zero not killing him and all, i have to say its all just basic plot armor. 3rd, despite what we got as barakas backstory, people ( including me ) really loved him as a character. Cuz the only thing that mattered was baraka actually catching w's. As in the previouse games, when he was a villain, he was a jobber who was always losing fights. Guess when liu kang restarted history, he gave the jobber role to shao. Which makes no.4, liu nerfed shao HARD. In previouse time lines, shao KHAN was so powerful he was able to cause problems to elder gods and absolutely destroy LORD raiden. #5, idk much about geras as he was a character introduced in mk11. But my guess is he is basically like a robot. Just programmed to be loyal to the actual keeper of time. Since that is his role in every other time line. Which is why he would never take the power himself. #6, other tarkatans are just "banished" or as i like to say kept hostage. While mileena since she is a princess is treated very seriously for she is the heir to the throne. Hence, her unique transformation. #7, For non-fighting game guy I'm surprised you actually enjoyed this. But pvp, and kameo system. Imo, its a skill issue. I have seen people doing combos while using kameos to keep a combo going. And those combos eliminate half of your health in one go. #8, i will give you this, geras was dumb for not telling liu kang about shang and quans benefactor before he sent the squad. But then again, plot armor. #9, this is kind of my own thing to say but, this story has way too many pause moments and no one is talking about them. Finally #10, which i have to say is just why shang wants to merge the worlds. There can be 2 reasons, 1: he's just being petty. Yeah. shang was always waiting for the right moment to over throw his former master shao khan. So he would be the one being served and not the one serving. Which is why he's a grown man acting like a manipulative little brat whose up to nothing but mischief. And 2: in his mk11 ending, he has stated that him beating kronika ( another long story ) is proof that he also can be defeated. So, it is likely he wanted to rid of liu kangs world so he wouldn't be a problem in the future. If i missed to explain something. Lmk.

[@C0LIN.]

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[@bigm980]

Lol only in 2023 where we are blessed with content relevancy crisis syndrome would somebody dare critique the quality of a Mortal Kombat plot. From the first movie through all games and media produced, this entire franchise prides itself on being driven by B-List storylines. It's a defining characteristic of the IP. I'm not going to watch this video but I hope you had fun making it. Thats what MK is all about!

[@KWTN316]

Evil sindel can beat up every single person here at the same time? So who’s gonna tell him?

[@13JackDiamond]

Maybe because you didn't play the previous games, but one thing that should be mentioned is how Shang Sung and Quan Chi were given miserable lives so they didn't cause destruction, and yet Shao is literally the reason the timeline needed to be reset in MK9. He's been the biggest, baddest main antagonist through out most of the games and he's still clearly evil in this game, but Liu Kang is like "Shao who? Oh, right. What trouble could that little rascal cause." Then again, he's been a joke of a villain for a while now, especially in this game.

[@Darth_Autisticus]

True but I agree with him on some stuff

[@monkeyandtangerines3621]

He wasn't wrong though and you didn't really need to play mk 11 it's basically the same plot as this game

[@alexmouso7256]

In all honesty, MK1 probably has some of the worst gameplay known to any fighting game. Mk and Injustice have their restrictive af gameplay and also pretty shitty, bland, forgettable music. Casey Edwards has done like 2 cool tracks, but his other works like In DMC5, well... this pales in comparison. You can't even special cancel in this damn game. Yeah it's faster than 11. Knowing other FGs like Tekken, Street Fighter, Uniclr, Melty, I'm not touching this piece of a crap gameplay-wise fg. On a positive note I liked the writing and dynamic between Kenshi and Johnny, as well as Scorpion and Sub-Zero. Voice acting performance was stellar, visual, art and background direction were damn awesome. I just wish NRS made their games better, because they have the writing fundation, the legacy and for sure, the budget. Also Kameo fighters are meh, I'd rather they did not exist, MK9 was way more fun, since you could Tag Team 2v2s with friends

[@AnonymousC2218]

👏👏👏 agreed M1K is stiff

[@ee-co4264]

EXACTLY, they did that with Baraka and Reptile. They get you interested in the character then it just ends and they don't show up again lol wtf

[@LluviaLuvRain]

It’s even worse when you realize the 1v1 intros are canon. Like one says shang tsung was held captive and escaped after mk 1. Like how did a powerless mf escape from 2 gods with an object that shows them where he is.

[@robertomoya4502]

I only watch your Spider-Man videos. This video and resident evil 4 reviews is why 🤣

[@C0LIN.]

Not really an argument

[@deadpoolcoolkidg1222]

Exactly🤣

[@evilzdeadite]

This guy will no doubt ruthlessly defend spider-man 2 even if it turns out to be ass

[@v1ncewillcomeback]

Wow. You got the whole squad laughing. At you, you little bitch

[@dsweetestkitty1527]

I think the dumbest thing ab this story mode was unleashing Armageddon on game 1 when all of the roster isn’t out yet which made it a lot weaker as opposed to waiting until game 3 or 4 like they did before all the reboots

[@jbob4996]

Weird thing to say that baraka was not a believable threat to shang tsung by referring to something that has yet to happen

[@blakemamba2067]

Mortal combats story has never once been good . I think the same story has been adapted to movie about 5 times and while I think one of those movies is good (scorpions revenge), the tournament the entire plot revolves around has not once made sense . But scorpion and Johnny cage are cool enough that we keep doing back to the series.

[@scottchaison1001]

Don't say stupid things.

[@GreenWolf2k]

Still watching your video. I just finished the story part of your video and all I gotta say is, "Welcome to Netherrealm storytelling where unless you are playing the character, they are a jobber. " I did enjoy this story more than MK11 (not hard to do) and maybe the same or a little over MKX. But nothing will top MK9's story. I get why they make their stories the way they do because it would get annoying switching from one character to another and having to learn a whole moveset for 1 or 2 fights. Especially if you plan on playing on higher difficulties, but I'm sure they could find a way to make it work. It does feel weird seeing a character like Shang Tsung be a total menace, but suck outside of his own chapter. Does anyone remember in MK9 how Johnny beat Reptile, Baraka, Sonya Blade, and Kano but then proceeded to lose every fight after his chapter was done. I honestly don't have a solution to this problem with their stories. Edit: LOL your gameplay section is so short. Makes since though as you explained why it is. Yeah I have to agree the Kameos are a BIG negative for me. The gameplay for this MK title is more enjoyable than MK11 if we take out the Kameos. MK9's gameplay was broke as fuck, but hella fun. MKX is my personal favorite with all the crazy Kombos you could pull off. God I miss my Flame Fist Lui Kang.

[@NaveRellim34]

I feel like 2 things that would have made this story much more interesting would have been letting Shao Kahn win the tournament and beat Raiden. This would have been more interesting because it would have shown Raiden is strong but inexperienced and made Earthrealm betraying Outworld more believable. The other thing is there should have been only 2 timelines based off the Aftermath endings

[@ChrisYoungGunn]

You're more forgiving than me. I've been playing since the original mk1 and give it a 5; and that's me being generous. John Kahner was pretty funny though lol

[@fdragon0216]

Actually, Liu Kang letting Johnny record makes sense because in one of the follow up endings, it is said that Johnny was originally called to get inspired by Outworld and create movie franchise out of it (it’s Liu Kang’s way of telling people about Outworld)

[@faken6252]

For a game that's supposed to be a "soft reboot", it really does expect you to know everything about the previous entries for you to understand half of the story. Mid-game, the last good MK was MKX and there I'm only talking gameplay wise.

[@spider-man5544]

I think mk1 being a messy story was fun tbh a lot of the things to the are mostly references to old mk games and its fun

[@Off_lucci]

bro aint make one good potint until 7

[@Glogloflex1n]

What really pisses me off the most is the shao khan thing it’s like the writers forgot who shao khan is

[@discorabbit]

The ONE thing ruining this and every story nowadays: it’s all too “on-the-nose.” First grade stories, over-explained. No mystery. Stop explaining sheit, Netherrealm. Let us WONDER!

[@spooneater9001]

Mk9s story was hilarious and quite well done, but only if you know the story of the previous mortal kombats

[@rymreaper]

About mileena Shang Tsung also says "before it's too late" There are lot of diseases in real life with stages , stage 1 can be treated easily but stage 2 is like exponentially worse . Immune system also determines weather a person can survive a disease or not. A disease can affect different people differently. There's so many unpredictable factors that mileena becoming blood thirsty isn't while other's seem to be normal even though they have seemingly progressed worse is still realistic She has never lived in stage 2 to be able to control the instincts.

[@alven977]

I am so happy that I lived my childhood in Midway era: Deaddly Alliance, Deception, Shaolin Monks, Armaggedon. Just watch the intros, magnificent.

[@scottchaison1001]

MK9 >>>>>

[@Dhxgdbdhhxhdjdj]

@@scottchaison1001 MK11>>>>>>

[@scottchaison1001]

@@Dhxgdbdhhxhdjdj Good joke, you should be a comedian.

[@Dhxgdbdhhxhdjdj]

@@scottchaison1001 Its my favorite game, hate if you want pal. I personally think MK9 is mid. The story is good but everything else is kind of lackluster.

[@Akira804]

Kenshi doesn't die because in hes original universe he is blind and had to get his sword from Johnny which had hes ancestors in the sword to help him fight that's why he doesn't die 😂

[@user-dg6ku3rc3h]

Shang Tsung honestly really had no layers to him even in the previous game he just evil for the sake of evil in fact I think that all the villain in this series except maybe Kronika and Evil Raiden and evil raiden wasn’t a villain

[@trulyhim2481]

Ngl evil sindel really got that dog she been squad wiping since mk9

[@cooldoberman2024]

what? how do you mean.

[@nttiv7725]

This genuinely is the worst MK I’ve ever played, input problem, not reading fatal blows, that p2 hit box bug, Cyrax Baraka, half assed dialogue, etc. literally an unfinished game.

[@sw5976]

No input problem you are just bad at the game. Mk11 is the worst one. And the p2 hitbox bug has been fixed

[@RedhoodBeyond]

I agree with most of your points in this video. The game might be a mess but I still love it. About the evil Sindel beating everyone, I believe it was just a reference to MK9, hell most of the stuff in this game are references to to the other games like the og trilogy, the 3D era: Deadly Alliance, Deception and Armageddon. Great review Collin

[@Prushinthespirit]

Referencing one of the worst directed and universally hated scenes in NRS history was definitely a smart idea...

[@Aibadenshi]

The part that make me laugh the most in the game is the part where everyone is struggling with the hourglass. Like there are 4 character that is either equal or almost equal level to Tsang Sung standing next to him trying to fix the hourglass plus Geras, none of them would be like hey why don't we interfere with him so he stop destroying the hourglass or kill him in mid his channeling since all of his minion got knock off.

[@coreyschultz2033]

I felt the story was a mess when playing through it myself but i couldn't tell entirely why. This video pointed out my problem.

[@GrabaCuppaPodcast]

The only real reason I'd play this game is to play as Homelander and that's pretty much it. I'm just looking forward to Spider-Man 2 tbh. Maybe I'll play MK1 at a later date.

[@msp720]

9:13 You say Shang left without killing them and mentioned that he doesn't like loose ends. What did you think the gas was supposed to do? Give them a light cough?

[@ragewireloki6213]

Why use gas? You are a f****** wizard, and can do literal magic. Just burn them, or skewer them or whatever ability you have, you can do that. WHY NOT DO THAT?

[@illismonati]

the story won’t make sense if you don’t know the story of the old games lol

[@blankfacegone8558]

Love u Colin but L takes bro

[@ragvald8835]

The point of mk is that any character have the potential to beat anyone else, there are no power levels, even for gods, so Baraka could take on Shang Tsung, Reptile - to beat Shao, and Sindel could beat half the roster again and then get her ass whooped by Milena. Even being a god - either Liu Kang, or Cetrion from 11, or Shinnok from 4 or 10 - doesnt really means to have an edge over mortals. But yeah, story mode is merely an excuse to arrange some fights and provide basic background for characters. It's silly by design. And if you are curious about what happens to that specific character in the end, you play towers with him - it got epilogues for everyone. Oh, and btw, the scenes like Sindel beating everyone or the entire pyramid part are nods to previous mk games. The pyramid scene is basically an opening for mk: armageddon, for instance.

[@C0LIN.]

This is just an excuse for inconsistent writing, we’re not only shown but told that certain characters are more powerful and more skilled than others

[@ragvald8835]

@@C0LIN. If it was irl, yeah, Liu Kang could just rip a black hole like he does in his fatality and that would be it for the bad guys. But it always was a silly universe with inconsistent writing, and even ultra-all-powerfull characters get rekt by anyone, really. Kitana beat old school Shao in 11, despite hyping him for decades(!) as a greatest warrior, mage and schemmer among all realms. Shao himself abides by mortal Kombat rules during first 2 games, because he's afraid of Elder gods - but then Cetrion, an elder god, gets bodied by Jax and the likes, and Shinnok gets rekt by poorly explained Cage magic. And then in 9 Shao does get punished by an orbital strike by those very gods. Is it inconsistent? Hell yes. But it's not a story-focused game, so it gets a pass. It's still fun, isn't it?

[@scottchaison1001]

​@@ragvald8835The story is pretty good, I don't know what are you talking about.

[@Hajime790]

@@scottchaison1001 The story is pretty bad, I don't know what are you talking about.

[@scottchaison1001]

@@Hajime790 Nah, the story was pretty good, although it pains you to admit it, mate.

[@goldengrain9851]

I can't believe they're holding national tournaments when it has been proven video footage of a player 1 advantage bug, player two cannot complete combos.

[@thebigagaming4439]

Can you make a review video on invincible and the boys? I’d be really happy to see your opinion on them. Love your videos and I’m a big fan me and my girl binge your videos

[@oukeith]

The story falls apart in the second act im so sick of multiverse narratives in media.

[@BrighterThanYours]

My complaints. The roster(who the hell asked for so many non mortal kombat characters? The combos(those juggle combos used to be something expert players would stumble on. It’s apart of the game now. 3-4 max button only combos down from like 7 per character). The combo breaker system. The kameo setup(this should’ve been a feature or option only). Also why is Shao the only one who can attack a character laid out on the ground?

[@A.jmmmm04]

Who are the non mortal Kombat players ? Combo breaker was thing already in previous games Shao kahn- that's part of his playing style, it's like saying why doesn't Johnny Cage have projectiles lol

[@juniorjunior5884]

This does feel like they should've made a new character to be the true villain. Using Tsung's alternative version kind of works, but not really since Liu should always be on guard for that man since he knows how close he was to losing to his rival. In fact my other issue is Geras. He was remade in Liu's image and is basically the keeper of time who oversees the timeline for Liu, but how could he not know about the alternative Tsung? How can both the timeline where Liu won and the one where Tsung won exist without anyone knowing since they both have access to the hourglass? How does Geras not realize there's an entire multiverse where the villain won? Comics have this same problem when they go into multiverses, the mess leaves them inconsistent. Normally it's handwaved away by cosmic beings we don't know. But Liu is the god here, he had access to time, he saw everything but somehow missed this big issue staring at him. It comes off as dumb. It's not the worst, but the time travel stuff made the writing struggle to keep building stakes.

[@joshuaknox2724]

i LOVED the faces and voice actors they used for scorpion and subzero in mk11

[@super.hero.landing]

To be completely honest, as soon as you said this was your first real MK game you've sat through, your opinions became a bit invaild to me. I feel like this game is more appreciated when you know the lore, and of course the other games leading up to this. It is supposed to be treated as a soft reboot. While the story isn't perfect, I do appreciate what they were trying to go for, although the Shang Tsung merging the timelines at the end was a bit too ambitious. I'm just saying I feel like you're judging the story and characters a bit too harshly, being that this is your first MK game.

[@austinsavage5962]

The whole thing about why dont they kill them why dont they just kill them killing a champion of earth realm or outworld out side of mortal kombat is extremely frowned upon by both sides just because theyre evil doesnt mean they dont have standards and rules

[@C0LIN.]

He was literally about to kill them with the experiments anyway “the process is fatal of course”