Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance 20th Anniversary Analysis

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The4thSnake

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@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 Жыл бұрын
Liu Kang being killed still one of the most biggest moments in video game history showed Midway would cross the line in the MK stories.
@EndoScorpion
@EndoScorpion Жыл бұрын
It's great, especially in a series where the same guy wins all the time and nobody stays dead between games. Kang stayed dead until the time was reset, then killed again. I do wish writers and game devs would actually commit to keeping characters dead more.
@elvisp116
@elvisp116 Жыл бұрын
Shocked the shit outta my young ass. I blamed mortal kombat annihilation and mythology for them killing Liu Kang lol
@WinterBoots15
@WinterBoots15 Жыл бұрын
@@EndoScorpion it was such an outta their mind idea but it was so good and worked out so well that in the reboot they reused the idea! They also added onto the idea by making them revenants.
@EndoScorpion
@EndoScorpion Жыл бұрын
@@WinterBoots15 The heroes who died in Deadly Alliance were revenants in Deception. And at least that arc went some where and was concluded. Unlike in the NRS era. Dark Raiden also used Liu Kang's soulless body as a thrall (a revenant). The Midway era did it, and did it way better. The NRS era didn't add anything new or interesting to it, and most of the revenants were forgotten about, only showing up once or twice to get beaten up by the player. Heck, making Kang the ruler of Netherrealm was probably stolen from Noob Saibot's Deception arc, where he wanted to become ruler.
@mike91mdk45
@mike91mdk45 Жыл бұрын
I was pissed back in '02, not gonna lie lol. Loved the game though. Kung lao was a good alternative
@lke6231
@lke6231 Жыл бұрын
The midway era was the golden age of MK. After Warner acquired the IP it just doesn’t feel the same, it feels like they don’t understand what made the games great.
@schemar17
@schemar17 Жыл бұрын
Ed boon and everyone else dont control nothing anymore
@JennyTheNerdBat
@JennyTheNerdBat Жыл бұрын
Story-wise, absolutely. The gameplay was kinda garbage though (especially in comparison to other 3D fighters at the time), and the less said about its character additions (be it Drahmin, Kobra, or goddamn Hsu Hao), the better.
@gabrielortiz3811
@gabrielortiz3811 Жыл бұрын
Thats an awesome plot this game has thanks for making me aware of this. This was an epic video to watch. Also the heart the devs put into this game.
@turbostriker2673
@turbostriker2673 Жыл бұрын
As someone whos grown up with the Nettherrealm era of MK...who the hell was gonna tell me that Scorpions DA costume was this Godlike? Because its indeed GODLIKE.
@animatedink2529
@animatedink2529 Жыл бұрын
Hey Snake, that was really cool of you to give Adema a shout out by saying they’re still around and to bring em back for the next game, even include new footage of their performance. Small thing, but they’re my favorite band and I discovered them through Deadly Alliance, so this game holds a very special place in my heart. Might even be my favorite MK. Wish it was available for virtual consoles
@triplecripple17
@triplecripple17 Жыл бұрын
Even though the 3D Era is before my time, I absolutely love it, I'll play deception over mk11 any day. My older cousins when I showed them MK unchained for the PSP, they got so happy and nostalgic, they remembered the special moves and some combos even after so many years, and my much younger cousin, him and I play mainly the 3D games he loves chess kombat and motor he thinks 3D Era is far better than modern, he got taste for sure lol. I love deception and unchained. Actually all of the PS2 Era games, MKD and MKA have great konquest modes, I love it. I wish NetherRealm acknowledged the 3D Era more or actually remastered, I love it. I can't wait till you do one for deception and armageddon
@MGall_Channel
@MGall_Channel Жыл бұрын
Sub-Zero was my Moloch killer. His Sword style sweep and kick attacks were very OP.
@Adam-qf8ps
@Adam-qf8ps Жыл бұрын
I remember playing this as a kid; I was alone in my bedroom, and although I was already familiar with Fatalities from the older games, I had never seen them on Deadly Alliance; so when Sub-Zero defeated me, and the screen suddenly turned black, and the creepy music started, it absolutely terrified me 😆.
@LeftBehind666
@LeftBehind666 Жыл бұрын
Really liked this video. Would love to see one for deception and armageddon.
@christopherlopez2464
@christopherlopez2464 Жыл бұрын
So good, best thing I saw on KZbin today. Thank you The4thSnake 😁
@thatoneguy1232
@thatoneguy1232 Жыл бұрын
I kinda wish those unused characters in the concept art came back and be used as like more fodder at least😆. It’d be cool to see them around. Imagine Zebron in a tournament for an excuse for a character to move up the bracket or even just in the background of a stage lol
@moustache1411
@moustache1411 Жыл бұрын
Babe, wake up! A new 4thsnake video just dropped!
@zavi1919
@zavi1919 Жыл бұрын
People have been posting your game tier list on certain forums and the outrage is hilarious
@Jahlil.W
@Jahlil.W Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, how bad is it? Just curious.
@raidentheconsultant9838
@raidentheconsultant9838 Жыл бұрын
What forums out of curiosity?
@zavi1919
@zavi1919 Жыл бұрын
@@raidentheconsultant9838 I tried to post a link, but it gets deleted automatically. Someone posted it on the Mortal Kombat sub-reddit and it has over 300 responses, a lot of them are pretty angry posts lmao
@Jahlil.W
@Jahlil.W Жыл бұрын
@@zavi1919 The high number of salt from the MK subreddit is laughable.
@raidentheconsultant9838
@raidentheconsultant9838 Жыл бұрын
@@zavi1919 I figured that was probably the case. Shouldn't be too hard to find anyways.
@Sapphireeyes104
@Sapphireeyes104 Жыл бұрын
I loved this game. I was introduced to Deception *way* too early as a youngin', then got DA later because mom liked it [Mortal Kombat as a series] too. I'll always remember her favorites were Li Mei and Nitara (Mine were Baraka and Reptile). This game easily has my favorite designs for most of the characters. It's a shame people don't like most of the 3D era characters because of them being introduced here. I like Movado's design, hookswords, and the hidden spiked shoe thing. It was cool and he could have been done much better I think. Hsu Hao I didn't really care for though. Mokap was a riot. I just can't help but love him because of how dumb he is. Great stuff, honestly. I do agree Moloch can fuck right off though. That all said, being a dumb kid, I got this thinking it was Deception and being disappointed when I couldn't toss enemies off into the acid bath or off the dragonfly and stuff. I ended up playing the hell out of it anyway. Some of the fatalities scared little me back then (but I mean so did the MK4 press start to continue pit so I wasn't exactly the bravest lil' one), but some of them have always been genuinely hysterical like the Quan Chi one or cool like Scorpion's or Reptile's. The Krypt was my favorite part, and there were such iconic joke things and interesting stuff to see there. I LOVED the "Cooking with Scorpion" fake ad, and genuinely wanted to try a bowl of Kano's cereal back then. Later, I ended up getting Armageddon, Deception, and Shaolin Monks in a triple pack. Those 4 games are easily my favorites for different reasons. I love the unlockable content in Deadly Alliance and again, most of the designs, I loved the adventure like story in Deception and adored finding everything, because I liked the adventure feel in that game Shaolin Monks was right up my alley though I wish it had more unlockable people to explore with, and Armageddon having the Kreate a Fighter thing ended up taking up WAY more time than I would like to admit (and every single profile slot on the card...well, a few cards. ^^;). TL;DR, easily my favorite and most nostalgic MK eras. And fun shit like "Cooking with Scorpion" need to make a return someday. I'd like to see an analysis of those other 3 assuming you haven't (mostly Deception and Armageddon) if you feel up to it someday. I liked listening to you recap everything, a lot of which I forgot, and give your opinions on different aspects. It was a nice listen while I was kickin' ass in Splatoon 3. 🤭
@XMan2001X
@XMan2001X Жыл бұрын
32:38 while I absolutely ADORE this fatality in Deadly Alliance (and Raiden’s), Scorpion used his spear for a fatality in Mortal Kombat II to cut his victim in half at the waist. This is his 2nd fatality that utilizes his spear.
@mikaela5938
@mikaela5938 Жыл бұрын
i like fully lizard reptile more than semi lizard reptile in games like mk9 and mkx but i still like him being more human looking until he takes his mask off like the classic games
@MugApwool
@MugApwool Жыл бұрын
*"YOU CAN'T KILL ME!!!! I'M IIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMOOOOOOOORRRRRRRTTTAAAAALLLLLLL!!!"*
@greggood4146
@greggood4146 Жыл бұрын
it'd be great if you covered Unreal Championship 2 someday, mostly because I've rarely see people talk about it. it sucks that the PC port was never finished, but its works fine on xbox.
@ElSandwich777
@ElSandwich777 Жыл бұрын
Even though it’s the most hated Mid Series 3D era game, it’s far and away my favourite. Everything in it was brand new. Multiple fighting styles, weapon style, new mechanics and most of the characters I played at that time. I loved the designs of Shang Tsung and Kung Lao, as well as Raiden’s Elder God Alt, it was easy to learn and play and of course, it had the Cooking With Scorpion video. Of the Mid Series I think it’s easily the best. Even if it lacks Puzzle Kombat and Kart Kombat. Not til MK9 released much later did I feel that same hype I felt playing this game for the first time when it was new. (But not for the reason you might think)
@Ricki_47
@Ricki_47 Жыл бұрын
I hope you one day decide to do a video on deception
@Sommeill
@Sommeill Жыл бұрын
The old MK world was much more interesting than new wannabe MCU setting NRS made in an afternoon.
@liquorsnake
@liquorsnake Жыл бұрын
This game came out the day i was born and its is one of my favourite cool
@attackstory9023
@attackstory9023 Жыл бұрын
As an old fan a kid from the 90s arcade era. Kenshi is my favorite new character
@mrz4252
@mrz4252 Жыл бұрын
This is still one of my favorite games from the series! So many memories!!
@Spit1990
@Spit1990 Жыл бұрын
If anyone ever asks me why this and deception are my favorite titles, I'll link them to this video.
@pious83
@pious83 Жыл бұрын
While I was a big fan with the original Trilogy (Since starting with MK2, less so a fan of MK1). Still never touched MK4/Gold. This was the game that I clicked with the most. I adored it at launch and still think extremely highly of it. Warts and all.
@sinister8924
@sinister8924 Жыл бұрын
i adored this game, i played it so hard growing up!
@richiea2907
@richiea2907 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this one had my favorite designs for the characters
@nemopouncey3827
@nemopouncey3827 Жыл бұрын
I always liked when they kicked the camera guy during their win.😂
@gallonegroch.8499
@gallonegroch.8499 Жыл бұрын
This video brought back some memories of my time playing Deadly Alliance. But now I regret giving the game away to a resell shop. Same goes for Deception.
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 Жыл бұрын
Now I can't wait until we get an anniversary vid for Armageddon
@Quatrixjs1
@Quatrixjs1 Жыл бұрын
Loved how DA nailed the dark and mystical feeling of MK. And the large amount of lore you could uncover was great.
@darlingxluxii7977
@darlingxluxii7977 Жыл бұрын
It was amazing and the Krypt helped explains more with the characters ❤
@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Жыл бұрын
And now it's just GI Joe.
@drwho9319
@drwho9319 Жыл бұрын
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 yes! I want them to go back to martial arts/asian lore. It became to military like
@Abel_Unstable
@Abel_Unstable Жыл бұрын
True mate! Also kinda sad Deception outshined Deadly Alliance, but I loved both nonetheless.
@thesbleeder2162
@thesbleeder2162 Жыл бұрын
​@@drwho9319I think MK 11 had a good mix. It's unrealistic to think that Earthrealm would get invaded and that no military would get involved.
@RedHeracross
@RedHeracross Жыл бұрын
This was the Mortal Kombat game that made me start seriously paying attention to the story. I loved this game back in the day.
@langying
@langying Жыл бұрын
Same!
@bwestacado9643
@bwestacado9643 Жыл бұрын
Same. I began with the original cabinet in a 7/11, but it was Deadly Alliance when I even noticed a story lol
@darlingxluxii7977
@darlingxluxii7977 Жыл бұрын
YES and deception ❤
@darlingxluxii7977
@darlingxluxii7977 Жыл бұрын
I felt Armageddon is when they started to go less serious with the theme to me
@donatellod.dabbins3609
@donatellod.dabbins3609 Жыл бұрын
Cooking With Scorpion is one of the best things to unlock in the Krypt, not to mention the game having the Adema Music Video (Immortal is still a fucking bop!) Deadly Alliance is underrated as fuck. Hell the whole 3D era is underutilized nowadays.
@nightshade6988
@nightshade6988 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree!
@carlosalaniz9665
@carlosalaniz9665 Жыл бұрын
It’s nice to hear you speak about the things you like about an MK game. I came in around the MKX critique and so I got all of that plus all of MK11. I’ve revisited this video a couple of times now. Hopefully we see something like this for Deception and/or Armageddon
@SkyPilot-qx2sb
@SkyPilot-qx2sb 11 ай бұрын
We gonna have to wait a few years for that one mate lol. I love to hear him talk positive bout mk too…. He definitely does a good job positively showing the 3D era of MK… often looked back on with disdain… at least from what I’ve seen.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 Жыл бұрын
Outside from Armaggedon, both Deadly Alliance and Deception are my favorite Mortal Kombat stories (they are for the franchise what IW and Endgame were for MCU). Not only they expand the mythology with new characters but the idea of killing Liu Kang was bold move and gave chance to other characters, specially Kitana and Sindel to develop, rather than just pulling a "Death/Return of Superman" and bringing Liu Kang back for the final fight because of "protagonist armor"
@AllTerrainNewfieJRY
@AllTerrainNewfieJRY Жыл бұрын
Mortal Kombat Deception is my favourite of these 3D era Mortal Kombat games. Deadly Aliance is great too though.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 Жыл бұрын
@@AllTerrainNewfieJRY Same. I see the both games as the IW and Endgame of the MK universe: One story ends in cliffhanger with heroes being defeated and and the second show their rise from the ashes. My only complain with Deception is that, I wish it had story mode showing what happened after Shujinko was betrayed with him teaming up with the other heroes to defeat Onaga.
@UfodexENMD
@UfodexENMD Жыл бұрын
Jax's alternative design actually makes sense in this cannon/timeline since he still has his natural arms underneath the metal ones. So he can remove them if he'd want to
@CevicheGato
@CevicheGato Жыл бұрын
The original cyber arms were more like strength enhancers. As well as metal shielding. It can be taken off like gloves 🧤
@Ninetails2000
@Ninetails2000 7 ай бұрын
​@charleshastings7260 Hes basically doing Jaqui's thing before she existed. Its also the reason why his metal arms can always look so different whenever theyre depicted....even though that reason stopped making sense once MK9 came out.
@C.R.Cole331
@C.R.Cole331 Жыл бұрын
1. This mean we gotta wait 2 years for a Deception analysis? 2. I really don't see how people can look at the 3D era vs. Netherrealm and honestly think Netherrealm is better when it's obvious the devs cared WAY more in the 3D era
@tanmanstudios
@tanmanstudios Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t a fan of the gameplay, but this era is my favorite when it comes to the lore. I think the 3D era has such a bad wrap because it introduced so many lame characters and the fatalities are some of the weakest in the series. But with that being said, I really respect the crew for putting so much effort into the lore and I personally love the new gamemodes. Chess, puzzle, kart, and conquest mode are all lots of fun!
@CarbonRollerCaco
@CarbonRollerCaco Жыл бұрын
People want gameplay first in their games. Street Fighter IV showed them decent fighting game play, and there were plenty of fighting kusoge already. That said, NetherRealm DOES need to get its act together with storytelling methods.
@justbluffing2868
@justbluffing2868 Жыл бұрын
well have a deception analysis b4 a new m=mk game
@riceel9068
@riceel9068 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with the second point...too bad im 19 and i didn't grow up with midway MK games
@riceel9068
@riceel9068 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with the second point...too bad im 19 and i didn't grow up with midway MK games
@EndoScorpion
@EndoScorpion Жыл бұрын
I remember my brother and I playing MK1 and 2 on Sega Mega Drive, and we had a PC copy of Trilogy. I only rented MK4 and was quite disappointed with it at the time. But I distinctly remember my brother getting me Deadly Alliance for my birthday - and this is when I really fell in love with the series. I really dove deep into the lore and the characters. The 3D era is where MK peaked in terms of story. And the costumes were amazing, some of them still stand up at the the best in the franchise. Deadly Alliance not only cemented my love for the series, but also my love for Scorpion too. Prior to this; I'd play mostly as Johnny in Mk1-2, and Noob Saibot in Trilogy (he was so OP in that game). I love both of Scorpion's costumes in DA. His Hapkido style, and that swaying of his stance is forever burnt into my memory. Friends and family would rage-quit when I played as Scorpion because I would dominate. Even Moloch struggled. If I ever got stuck on Moloch with another character - I'd whip out Scorpion to kick his butt. Ironic considering Scorp's canon ending in this game. This has to be Raiden's besr costume too. To this day I still wish we got a proper conclusion to his Dark arc. I'd happily forget about all this timeline crap and just pick up from MK Armageddon or even Deception. I say Deception because I feel that Midway's need to include all the characters from the series hindered the story. While it was great to see some characters come back, some could've easily been forgotten or stayed dead. Still, I liked Taven and would love to see him return. Hsu Hao is no way near as bad as people say he is. I actually liked the dynamic between the two dragon clans and the OWIA. And the fact Hsu Hao destroyed the OWIA's means to travel between the realms put a massive delay on the heroes getting to Outworld, giving the Deadly Alliance enough time to amass their army. I mean, wasn't Li Mei the last soul to be (almost) put into the Dragon King army (with Bo Rai Cho saving her at the last second). Imagine the heroes got there a lot sooner: They could've regrouped with Cyrax and Kenshi; Sub Zero wouldn't be galavanting off with Frost elsewhere; Scorpion might not have needed to sneak in underground; Li Mei's souls wouldn't have been tainted by almost getting put into a skeleton body / forming a connection with Onaga; and Bo Rai Cho would've stuck around to help in the fight. Significantly strengthening the Forces of Light. I'm probably reaching a bit, but I still feel Hsu had a bigger effect on the story than people give credit for, and like other characters who got a second chance / expanded upon; there is potential there to make something better out of Hsu. Mavado can f off though! XD Never liked that guy!
@TheDarkYoshi1000
@TheDarkYoshi1000 Жыл бұрын
My roommates and I still play this game and deception on weekends. Such a great game and one of my absolute favorites.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake Жыл бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes.
@TheDarkYoshi1000
@TheDarkYoshi1000 Жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake absolutely. My buds and I will be waiting for a Deception video, its our favorite game. Many runs of Konquest.
@sorakazama7031
@sorakazama7031 Жыл бұрын
Deception, shouldn't monks, umk3 and Armageddon is all I cared about. Newer ones were mk9 and mkx
@Dr.Lemmy_C_Yabum
@Dr.Lemmy_C_Yabum Жыл бұрын
Wish I had friends like that lol
@SoleilPhoenix
@SoleilPhoenix Жыл бұрын
Deception is way better for me, but DA set the path
@thedredayshow9246
@thedredayshow9246 Жыл бұрын
You talking positively about Quan Chi almost feels like character development. Interesting, Mr. 4th. Edit: Props for calling out the fan base for dunking on Hsu Hao. Really is refreshing seeing him be defended
@featherguardian6023
@featherguardian6023 Жыл бұрын
Deadly Alliance is Probably the Most Underrated Game in the Franchise,like the Sonic Franchise I Love when a Team of Game Producers Experiment New Things,I Love the Music and The Roster of Characters are Really Good with Interesting Designs and Characters,to this Day as A Artist that Drawn 300+ Characters,the 3D Era Characters can Work on Modern Times.
@fernandoenamorado2480
@fernandoenamorado2480 Жыл бұрын
Both this one and mk4. Why mk4? Bcuz it’s the first 3d game for mk and bcuz of thst it gets hate and yet still it’s playable and the music was amazing the darkness of the feel and vibe of the story and backgrounds were dead on and it just felt like a game in the works for a long time. I used to hate it myself in comparison to mk3 and mk2 but that’s honestly not even a bad thing bcuz mk2-3 were and still are considered some of the best mk games ever so it just suffered from not living up to what mk2/3 delivered however mk4 was still good in its own right. Shinnok would’ve been fine as a final boss had he just been given the double life bar shao Kahn was and double attack power it would’ve been the same. Deadly alliance seemed boring as heck at the time. To me if mk4 was a step down from mk2-3 then deadly alliance was a step down from mk4 and I say this in terms of the fun level and a lot has to do with the overall feel of the game. Looking back the game is very good if it’s not compared to say mk2-3 or the newer great mk games the graphic improvement was perhaps the biggest thing deadly alliance impressed me with. I think the music is what had me underwhelmed honestly. I think if this was music for like a practice mode or left as such it would’ve been fine but for the main gameplay it seemed alor slower and just off from the intense fast paced dark mk4 music. I can still enjoy deadly alliance todsy more than before perhaps but again I’m js what I felt it lacked which the music is what killed it the most for me honestly. Story development and lore for not only this game but for unraveling the lore of past and future games this game was probably the best. Deadly alliance was a break from the intensity that was the buildup of mk1-4 but honestly the graphics you can tell they put everything into it and I feel like deception and Armageddon both were not as good on graphics
@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4392
@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4392 Жыл бұрын
DA was never underrated. When it came out it was consideres a massive improvement from MK4.
@SonicHaXD
@SonicHaXD Жыл бұрын
2:18 this right here is why you're the best channel ever XD
@RubenGarcia-rt7us
@RubenGarcia-rt7us Жыл бұрын
As someone who always played the 3d Era games as a kid but never understood the story, I'm glad your videos have made me appreciate this Era more than the netherrealm Era games
@NucleaRaptor
@NucleaRaptor Жыл бұрын
I love MKDA so much I'd fuck it. It did so many things right and made me fall in love with the series all over again. Also, the Sarna Ruins kinda have story relevance, it's supposed to be the outside of the Lost Tomb where Quan finds Onaga's army.
@bigsky1047
@bigsky1047 Жыл бұрын
The 3d era was amazing. Shame that people will never see it for what it really was.
@codafett
@codafett Жыл бұрын
The nostalgia crowd won and we've all seen what happens when a series refuses to let itself grow or evolve in a natural way.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 Жыл бұрын
Nostalgia can be toxic.
@CarbonRollerCaco
@CarbonRollerCaco Жыл бұрын
@@Jahlil.W I'm outright GLARING that way.
@CarbonRollerCaco
@CarbonRollerCaco Жыл бұрын
@@codafett I hardly think nostalgia killed OR saved MK. Rather, I can appreciate each era for what it is and even get how they can all fit together. The idea of a Keeper of Time allows EVERYTHING to be canon while still having there be structure. Basically having MK's self-awareness be seriously core to its lore. As for Sindel in case that's a sticking point with you, there are signs she's possessed, specifically in Jade's arcade ending in MK9 and Sindel's own MK11 gameplay. That all said, the 3D era could've used one more game before Armageddon instead of MK vs. DCU in order to have a full set of meat on its bones even if the core gameplay still wouldn't've been hot, said gameplay DID need fixing as even from a casual standpoint fighting kusoge were getting tiresome, and having one character win all their fights each chapter is indeed hamstringing the reboot era's (and Injustice's) storytelling.
@MrAjking808
@MrAjking808 Жыл бұрын
Ehh these costumes were 2000s cringey & new characters were just meh 🫤 .
@bradhuddleson5216
@bradhuddleson5216 Жыл бұрын
DA and deception were absolutely amazing the best stories in Mk as well.
@munem939
@munem939 Жыл бұрын
When 4thSnake does an anniversary better than the MK devs themselves lmao
@CarmineKar98K
@CarmineKar98K Жыл бұрын
I miss when games didn't need to be dumbed down to be simple for a wider audience, the lore prior to NRS's version was way more interesting to me and only made me want more.
@metallicaspiker16
@metallicaspiker16 Жыл бұрын
Ok, so unpopular opinion here… Deadly Alliance is actually my favorite of the 3D era games. With it being the first true 3D MK game, and one of the first games I owned on the PS2, it was a breath of fresh air from the cheesiness of MK3 and 4. Sure, Deception was objectively a better game mechanics wise, but DA (at least in my honest opinion), looked better, and even sounded better.
@NucleaRaptor
@NucleaRaptor Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons MK2 is so beloved is that it completely nailed the aesthetic of sinister oriental mysticism. It's bright and colorful, yet oozing with style, atmosphere, and dark Chinese sorcerous shit. The series didn't really hit that golden ratio again until MKDA. Deception went almost a little too dark with its muted brown-gray color palette and the borderline experimental soundtrack, so it took me a little while to warm up to it, but now I like it almost as much. Wish at some point another MK game makes me feel the same way those two do. ._.
@metallicaspiker16
@metallicaspiker16 Жыл бұрын
@@NucleaRaptor MK II is my overall favorite title in the series. You hit the nail on the head with this, and my first exposure to MK II was the SNES port (which ended up being my favorite version that I still own to this day). Everything about this game was perfect to me as a fighter 😊
@GenMaj_Knight
@GenMaj_Knight Жыл бұрын
MKDA Reptile was my favorite design overall. Made him feel like he fit into Outworld rather than just being a green clad dude.
@wesstewart2677
@wesstewart2677 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, this design and MK9 are my favorite designs
@tyrkun1624
@tyrkun1624 Жыл бұрын
@Orobas That outfit is great
@glassofwater281
@glassofwater281 Жыл бұрын
How do you like the new MK1 Reptile's forms?
@GenMaj_Knight
@GenMaj_Knight Жыл бұрын
@@glassofwater281 I think they went way too hard in an Alligator-looking direction. Really looks like the Gatorclaws from Fallout 4 rather than Reptile honestly.
@glassofwater281
@glassofwater281 Жыл бұрын
@@GenMaj_Knight Yeah I agree. When he switched forms my first thought was Godzilla. But I do think it's cool he goes from smaller and swift to a brutish monster
@TastyChurro
@TastyChurro Жыл бұрын
No joke my favorite thing about DA are the extras like concept art and various other things you unlock in the Krypt. But I absolutely love the Making Of video which to this day I'll watch and never get tired of it. The cheese fries always make me hungry lol.
@baddragonite
@baddragonite 11 ай бұрын
Every time I see the Krypt in any MK game or the old adventure modes it always just kinda makes me wish we'd get a straight up RPG/Adventure game in the MK world even if it's just kind of a dark souls clone or batman arkham clone gameplay wise I Think it'd be great for exploring the world
@flipkiller8521
@flipkiller8521 3 ай бұрын
An Arkham or Dark Souls clone would be boring as fuck. An MK game with Shenmue or Yakuza gameplay would be way more interesting.
@LucasFeniks
@LucasFeniks Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you talking about DA. It's a nice change of pace from talking about games you dislike or outright hate. I'm hyped to hear your thoughts on Deception and Armageddon when those videos drop.
@codycardin
@codycardin Жыл бұрын
During the Liao dynasty(the Khitan Empire) there was a ruler named Shengzong 982 - 1031 and when I heard the lecturer pronounce his name, I thought he said Shang Tsung. And then I thought, the 4th Snake needs to know about this(cuz you use to do a history series). And while I'm certain it's just coincidence, I thought you might vaguely care
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake Жыл бұрын
lol
@zakeermcconnell388
@zakeermcconnell388 Жыл бұрын
That might ironically be where Shang Tsung’s name came from. Good eye. I’m actually learning about Chinese History now so this is a good fact for me to learn.
@zaymac117
@zaymac117 Жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake you've got several bots impersonation bots in the comments please ban it.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake Жыл бұрын
@@zaymac117 I need to know where they are first.
@cevatkokbudak6414
@cevatkokbudak6414 5 ай бұрын
ok
@zavi1919
@zavi1919 Жыл бұрын
I really wish NRS would give the 3D Era games one last chance and just remaster them already. Sadly after seeing how they clearly didn’t do shit for the 30th anniversary I’m doubting it at this point.
@MysteriousTomJenkins
@MysteriousTomJenkins Жыл бұрын
Would be really cool to see a 3D Trilogy that mergers all three games (including the GBA version so we get all content) that polishes up the graphics, gives better fatalities and improves gameplay of not only the core game itself but the Konquest modes as well. I remember seeing videos in the Armageddon Krypt of early Konquest Mode where Taven had a bow and could actually attack stealthily, that'd be cool if that was added back in and there was more to do in both Konquest modes.
@Yuzoboy
@Yuzoboy Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned how memorable the music was in Deadly Alliance. The Netherealm Studio MK games have not captured the musical prowess the earlier games achieved.
@TheGoldenAlchemist86
@TheGoldenAlchemist86 Жыл бұрын
When deadly alliance came out my parents wouldn’t let me get it due to the violence but a kid in my neighborhood had it. I have such fond memories of going over to his place every weekend to play through it. This and deception holds very fond memories to me. I really hope you’ll do a video like this for deception and Armageddon in the future
@AllardRT
@AllardRT Жыл бұрын
Two things I never get tired of: 1. The4thSnake shitting on the NRS era of MK 2. The4thSnake propping up the 3D era of MK We absolutely need a Deception video.
@SilkyLew
@SilkyLew Жыл бұрын
These 3D games are trash. When your mini games are better than the core game, you have a problem. They're fun to laugh at though.
@AllardRT
@AllardRT Жыл бұрын
​@@SilkyLew Uh-huh. Sure.
@CarbonRollerCaco
@CarbonRollerCaco Жыл бұрын
@@SilkyLew Yes, the older MKs were basic trash standard gameplay-wise, but inoffensively so (gratuitous gore aside), and we're talking STORY here. THAT's what captivated The4thSnake. Old MKs may be kusoge, but they're GOOD kusoge.
@DougDongo
@DougDongo Жыл бұрын
These games had a cool aesthetic and some nice bonus content but they played like trash. There’s a reason a tournament scene didn’t exist for this era of mk.
@AllardRT
@AllardRT Жыл бұрын
@@DougDongo I neither know (nor care) about the tournament scene, but they were head and shoulders above any previous MK entry as singleplayer games - there was no cheating bullshit AI and thus you could actually (shock gasp) try and use your character's full arsenal rather than figuring out the one way to cheese the shitty AI. I replayed UMK3 recently and cheesing the shitty AI was the only way to win.
@th3seek3r60
@th3seek3r60 Жыл бұрын
MKDA is where people put heart and creativuty into a game MK NR trilogy is when a soulles corporate entity takes over PLUS : LIKE/SHARE THIS VIDEO!! WE NEED MKD AND MKA REVIEWS
@vahlok1426
@vahlok1426 Жыл бұрын
This video alone shows me all over again how much story, passion, and character in general went into this and Deception. I miss MK games like this.
@seasonembrace3624
@seasonembrace3624 8 ай бұрын
Honestly one of the biggest sins NRS committed was not bringing back any of the the songs from the 3D era or remixing them.
@justinjones7411
@justinjones7411 4 ай бұрын
Thank you some much for this video. I'm am sick of every MK "fan" saying that the 3D era was horrible and that the NRS era is flawless. DA and Deception are probably some of my favorite games. I love how experimental Midway was in this era. We got cool mini games like Puzzle and Chess Kombat. I love that there was bigger approach to the story and lore of the games with Konquest Mode. And while most of the new characters may of not been great we still got some that are still beloved today like: Keneshi, Havik, Nitara and oh course Onaga who is leagues more memorable than Kronkia as a villian. The only valid criticism I'll accept is that the game's graphics had aged poorly. However IMO as long as a games are fun to play I feel like graphics shouldn't matter that much .
@thatoneguy1232
@thatoneguy1232 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always imagined what a modern take on that opening would be like. Just thinking of Shang Tsung saying in Liu Kang’s ear before he snaps his neck “three times you’ve bested me in kombat and three times you failed to finish me. Now Liu Kang, your soul is mine”
@Dancinalucard
@Dancinalucard Жыл бұрын
I have played all the games since the beginning and followed the story. It was the reveal that Noob was Sub-Zero from MK 1 in Deception that blew my mind and made me go back and really study the lore of the series and have become a fervent follower since then. Since it was Deception that mind fucked me it has become my favourite in the series but the story has fallen Since that game.which made DA fall to the way side for me. You have now reinvigorated my love for it and now I shall go back to it and unlock everything
@TheCrystalBlood
@TheCrystalBlood Жыл бұрын
The first Mortal Kombat game I ever played. Still holds a soft spot in my heart to this day. I don't care if people don't like the 3d era, I enjoyed it back then and still like it now.
@CevicheGato
@CevicheGato Жыл бұрын
The 3d MK games was what got the MK franchise back on its feat after that abomination of that MK Annihilation movie.
@Doomness87
@Doomness87 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered how the 3d era games showed story and though konquest mode text blocks aren't the most interesting to get into I'd rather a story that takes a lot of reading and is good than a story that looks amazing but is shit and yeah I agree with the sentiment about needing playable fights some stories are devoid of conflict but still interesting as it shows us different sides of characters and relationships with other characters. ... Did u intend to rhyme "if this shit aint your jam you aint a real mk fan lol. THIS VIDEO WAS YOUR BEST HOLY FUCK THIS IS WHAT NICE SNAKE LOOKS LIKE GIVE ME MORE MOREEEEEEEEEE. Nah but in all seriousness it's clear you've have a lot of passion for this game and I'd love to try out the 3d era games one day but who knows when that'll be lol pc players at this time where kinda shafted rip.
@loki_cx
@loki_cx Жыл бұрын
1:28 i think only hsu hao's fatality did something like that where it wasnt achieved by just shrinking the model's head or appendages, so i'd like to think that wasnt as much of a factor to model detail. the universal bloody stumps wouldnt be introduced until deception so yes, hsu hao of all people has the most gory fatality in the game
@EarthrealmerMK
@EarthrealmerMK Жыл бұрын
I used to play MKDA as a kid, probably either MKT or this is my first MK game; The Midway MK series will always be canon to my heart. I can't wait for MK Deception analysis.
@dksoulstice6040
@dksoulstice6040 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't a huge fan of MK4's gameplay, and Deadly Alliance is the game that got me back in MK heavy again. Liu Kang getting killed off is also the first video game event I can remember that I absolutely despised. Partially due to how poorly his death was portrayed. Liu Kang is MK champ x4 and apparently has zero environmental awareness and gets OHKO'd by a Quan Chi flaming skull. Lul okay Midway. But yeah. Loved this game. My favorite MK growing up.
@MysteriousTomJenkins
@MysteriousTomJenkins Жыл бұрын
I do find it funny how both Liu-Kang and Raiden make that same mistake. They're fighting against two people and yet they focus too much on one of them and let the other take them out. For Raiden, its worse because he could literally teleport out of the way.
@GoliathSmoke
@GoliathSmoke Жыл бұрын
Deadly Alliance has always been my favorite of the mk games, sure its got some flaws but its always been my go to mk game in terms of both story and characters.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 Жыл бұрын
The 3D Era of MK was the peak of Fighting Game storytelling. Kai and Fujin should have been in the roster of Deadly Alliance instead of Raiden however.
@ALLSTAR5498
@ALLSTAR5498 Жыл бұрын
Tekken has a similar problem with making nearly everyone connected to the Mishimas instead of doing their own thing and it frustrates me.
@ultr4nima
@ultr4nima 5 ай бұрын
Fucking hell.. this comment couldn't have been any more true now considering the reveal of Reina in Tekken 8 Yeah man just give Heihachi yet another unknown-until-now bastard child, don't forget to make it a young woman because the series also can't bring itself to have a female character that has visibly aged! I love this series but god are these two points my biggest pet peeves with it
@TheDigitalApple
@TheDigitalApple Жыл бұрын
20 years ago today, the start of MK’s best trilogy was released!
@Doralga
@Doralga Жыл бұрын
I'd say Armageddon lacked and slumped in comparison to the Deception and DA games still way better then netherrealms plotline in future entries
@richardw1043
@richardw1043 Жыл бұрын
Ok fine, leave out Armageddon and include Shaolin monks. Best trilogy.
@laurentiusmcmxcv
@laurentiusmcmxcv Жыл бұрын
@@richardw1043 Armageddon is still fun and fine tho
@Lucy2Juicy
@Lucy2Juicy Жыл бұрын
@@richardw1043 Nah Armageddon is still a good game, and a good game product. With a lot of game inside of the purchase. Similar to how SF6 looks to be a good game overall rather than just a good fighting game. It stands well in it's own right and is part of the best trilogy.
@laurentiusmcmxcv
@laurentiusmcmxcv Жыл бұрын
@@Lucy2Juicy Ye, I really like KAF and the universal parry, also some stuff from DA is there
@evildietv
@evildietv Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, my first Mortal Kombat game was Deadly Alliance, I remember playing that game, and the 3D era as a whole with my family all the time
@wolfhurricane897
@wolfhurricane897 6 ай бұрын
I gotta admit. The Deadly Alliance sounds more like a pro wrestling tag team. really. imagine it. "On the way to the ring. The Deadly Alliance!"
@holeeshi9959
@holeeshi9959 Жыл бұрын
Cooking with Scorpion is still the best part of MKDA
@grimm_destroyer5566
@grimm_destroyer5566 Жыл бұрын
Learn about Chopping, Meat 🍖 Tenderizing, Cake 🎂 Decorating and Chopping!!! Lol
@FreneticZetetic
@FreneticZetetic Жыл бұрын
CHOPPING!!!
@macrussell78
@macrussell78 Жыл бұрын
That and the music video.
@JahlisMan
@JahlisMan Жыл бұрын
I confess, even as an MK fan since 97ish, I played Deadly Alliance and Deception for the 1st time only in 2020. didn't have any consoles in 2000s, and my old PC couldn't run the emulator well. but when I finally played DA, especially after seeing (from afar, ain't touching it) what a disaster MK11 was, I was blown away. It was dark, cool, complex... I still go back to DA more than to Deception, there's something really tactical about its gameplay that's missing in Deception imo. I didn't really like how you had to complete all the conquest stuff for the story bits, as it could take quite a while (the game refused to register some tricky combos, like with Cyrax). but the story was so interesting, so intricate. it really showed the potential MK universe had. oh, and people who hate Hsu Hao can get f'ed, the guy hit like a truck and was one of the stronger characters in the game.
@SonicHaXD
@SonicHaXD Жыл бұрын
21:16 you can make a wasted plotential video just on this character XD
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain Жыл бұрын
The bigger thing wrong with Li Mei's Baji Quan stance is why the fuck is she kicking, Baji Quan is far more about being squared up against your opponent and pummeling them with your elbows, knees, and shoulders. That's like its defining feature, how did they get that wrong
@RanOutOfSpac
@RanOutOfSpac Жыл бұрын
Liu Kang’s death broke my fucking heart when I first saw that cutscene as a youngin’ and it also scared the shit out of me. Deadly Alliance is my favorite MK despite my favorite character being dead and unplayable.
@gtafans93
@gtafans93 8 ай бұрын
Remember when Mortal kombat had metal to launch there games? remember disturbed for mk9? Good times mk is metal as fuck
@darlingxluxii7977
@darlingxluxii7977 Жыл бұрын
Mortal kombat deadly alliance along with deception were the two 3D era games to me that started to go deeper with story and characters. It took the world more seriously compare mk games now it becomes more humor. Yes mk 1-3 were comedic at times but 3D era is what helped mk get more serious with the characters and lore. also I felt it was more open and creativity, I mean the the character select music were the BEST 🎉
@affanozagac313
@affanozagac313 11 ай бұрын
Waiting for the MK:Deception 20th year anniversary
@eXimiusMax
@eXimiusMax Жыл бұрын
10:25 - 11:05 This is one of the reasons I enjoy SoulCalibur VI’s story. Every character has their own tale to tell, some not even related to the main plot at all such as Talim’s, and it really helps the world feel bigger and more alive. I wish modern MK had this approach tbh, even if I do enjoy watching the cinematic, if only for dumb fun to turn my brain off to.
@doctorqrow3452
@doctorqrow3452 10 ай бұрын
I'd kill for "Ultimate Edition" remasters of the 3D games with all content from every edition.
@DianaTaffie
@DianaTaffie Жыл бұрын
Bless you Snake, fans needed such a video. Not many Middle Era Games reviews to begin with, i love those so much myself... Will be pleased to see more about my beloved Deception and pretty fun with its roster and customization Armageddon c: Even though i started with classic games, i never liked them that much outside of violence and being one of my first fighting games. But hoo boi, when i got to play Middle Era games... I was in love, got really into the fandom too. My emotions are so mixed right now with Netherrealm Era. I don't _hate_ them, but they do so much wrong in my eyes. Pain.
@CarStreetGasGone
@CarStreetGasGone Жыл бұрын
Lol NRS vs Midway is a huge difference, NRS is way too modern Midway was perfect for keeping me feeling like i was back in time then currently when playing. Now when I play MK I feel like seeing a Liu kang driving a tesla is not too far off 😂
@ShadowSumac
@ShadowSumac Жыл бұрын
My most favorite game in the series, even ahead of MKX, and one of the best, IMO. Amazing art style, amazing soundtrack, good gameplay, superb bonus content. And, of course, one of the best, if not the best story in a fighting game, where every single substory is part of the whole narrative. Deception attempted to replicate this, but to no avail, I feel.
@bababouille9707
@bababouille9707 Жыл бұрын
31:35 THANK YOU. I’m still so pissed that Frost in mk11 has red blood and a human skeleton. THEY LITERALLY MADE AN ENTIRE ENDOSKELETON FOR TERMINATOR, but Jax and Frost who are long time important fighters in MK get no such treatment
@NoName-cz3wn
@NoName-cz3wn Жыл бұрын
Said it a million times: I bet ANYTHING Mavado was going to be in MKX before Takeda was established. He's in the komik, and if you replace Shirai Ryu with a Hookswords variation, Takeda's game play all of the sudden becomes a perfect next-gen reimagining of the original Mavado game play concept. And what's so bad about Hsu Hao? Would the series really be worse off having another grappler? The Red Dragon as a group were awesome and were completely squandered by NRS. You can't judge the characters thru the same lense you judge characters who have 30 minutes of full acted cutscenes to.
@MysteriousTomJenkins
@MysteriousTomJenkins Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't get the hatred for Drahmin and Moloch, they look cool to me with cool titles of Oni Torturer and Oni Destroyer and I find it funny that are treated like jokes when in two different timelines, they were major threats to Scorpion, the series icon. In the first timeline they nearly kill in, and in the second he runs away from them but nah, they suck, lets just have their heads be thrown out in intros or characters talking about how they murdered them. >.>
@NoName-cz3wn
@NoName-cz3wn Жыл бұрын
@@MysteriousTomJenkins agree with that fully as well. And Moloch was insanely oppressive when you fought him, even in a 3D space. It was very intimidating to 12yo me. They were also integral in bridging the plot gaps between MK4 and MKD
@Abel_Unstable
@Abel_Unstable Жыл бұрын
Im glad 4thSnake still had some "respect" toward Bo Rai Cho. I for one didn't hate him much, just kinda weirded out why he had to be a Joke Character. MKX did him better to make him a Master character and also my personal favorite.
@Quetzalcoatlus100
@Quetzalcoatlus100 Жыл бұрын
Never quite understood why the MK sweaterans seemed to dunk on this game and the 3D era as a whole. Especially in regards to the mechanics as it absolutely adds extra layers of complexity to each fight with every character and stance having little bonuses like power ups, taunts etc etc with the potential for some ridiculous combos using the switching styles. My best guess is that it's these mechanics spat in their cereal allowing even novices to interrupt the combos and sweaty tactics. Also Characters like Hsu Hao or Mavado while yeah design be a bit lacking, nothing really to do with playstyles. They fell to the wayside like many characters in Deception introduced. Nothing was really done to elevate them or stand out. Armageddon made that worse by having all of them side by side really hammering home the similarities and the stinkers
@ThrashMetalWolf666
@ThrashMetalWolf666 Жыл бұрын
The gameplay was alright at least in Deception. It still pales in comparison to other 3D fighters, and the style switching system is rather gimmicky. Hsu Hao, and Mavados playstyles sucked which is the main reason why they suck outside of having very little personality. Hsu Hao is a grappler in a game where grabs are blockable. His animations also make him look like a goofball, and are not accurate to the fighting styles he's supposed to represent, especially when he's a Chinese wrestler. Mavado has two special moves, one being his sidestep which is alright but his grappling hook charge is terrible. A lot of the 3D era characters suffered from uninspired, bad, or out of place special moves.
@AnomalisticD
@AnomalisticD Жыл бұрын
34:46 ayoooo SNEAKO 😂😂
@slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk
@slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk Жыл бұрын
The lore and design of characters and stages were incredible in the 3d era. It was the most fun mortal Kombat had ever been. Killing liu Kang in the intro was mind blasting. Also, the intro for deadly alliance, deception and Shaolin monks are 3 of the best intros to a game I've ever seen. I think the only intro that surpasses them is the intro to onimusha 3.
@EndoScorpion
@EndoScorpion Жыл бұрын
I know it's not his full rope dart, but Scorpion does use his kunai more like a knife, in one of his MK2 Fatalities to slit his opponents throat before cutting them in half across the abdomen. Shaolin Monks had a variation of this too.
@pixelgoat7317
@pixelgoat7317 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, I'm finally NOT the only one who likes Reptile better as a reptile~! (Makes happy SonicHaXD noises)
@iceeblueburst03
@iceeblueburst03 Жыл бұрын
I remember that stupid yet hilarious fatality with Quan Chi where he stretches his opponent's neck up.
@MistressDove
@MistressDove Жыл бұрын
A beautiful piece that excellently paints exactly why the 3D era was so good.
@steakcrust558
@steakcrust558 Жыл бұрын
LOL no
@ryanmidwood9384
@ryanmidwood9384 Жыл бұрын
@@steakcrust558 worst take I’ve ever heard
@steakcrust558
@steakcrust558 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanmidwood9384 because you dont think critically. The fatalities are the worst in the series, the fighting styles are clunky and slow, there arent massive combos, the gameplay is slow, the roster is shit. This is the series where mk was following trends, not setting them
@steakcrust558
@steakcrust558 Жыл бұрын
@@Jahlil.W now whos the troll? Remind me. I bring objective reasons why this was the worst series, you attack the person instead of the argument. Either come up w reason why the game is good or shut up
@video_ouija7114
@video_ouija7114 Жыл бұрын
@@steakcrust558 change your little diapey
@countdragula
@countdragula Жыл бұрын
Will we ever get a mortal Kombat deception review?
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