Starting a 1911 Chase Touring Car

[@terran698]

and here i was thinking my 85 dodge ram was hard to start when it was cold. glad to see such a work of art preserved instead of being scrapped

[@JesusTorres-qr1gz]

Outstanding and impressive work of art that toy that you share with us, most kind of you, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico, Jesús Torres.

[@ricksbulbs]

In case nobody has noticed, this is an air-cooled 3-cylinder, 2-STROKE! All the 2 stroke hallmarks are there---simple round heads with no valves, exhaust manifold low on the cylinders, intake manifold way down on the bottom of the engine with carb, it is obviously a "third port induction" or "valveless" 2 stroke with the lower piston skirts controlling intake into the 3 seperate crankcase chambers--like an old SAAB or DKW. It's a sweet runner, too! I bet it has alot of torque! Cool car!

[@kfl611]

Well obviously !

[@noscwoh1]

The differential is under the car, and the rear wheels are chain-driven from stub axles. If the clutch runs in oil, jacking up one wheel reduces the drag when cranking. Leaving the car in gear and cranking lets the mass of the rear wheel act as an additional flywheel. (An old Model T trick, too.)

[@nuil501]

Theres is one exemplar of these cars in Brazil; last time it was seen, it was on Museu da Ulbra, Ulbra Museum. It was a perfect, preserved operational car.

[@SpiritsoftheWolf]

wow, that auto is rare, it was founded in 1907 and ceased in 1919, so far there are about 25 to 50 of them still existed

[@wholeNwon]

That cranking technique is guaranteed to eventually produce very serious injury.

[@AndrewLohmannKent]

His thumb should be facing the same way as his fingers or the engine could smash his thumb off. Also he can crank slowly until a quarter before an ignition stroke then pull the handle up quickly over top-dead-centre. I watched dad do it and instruct me as a boy.

[@AndrewLohmannKent]

This demonstrates why at that time Steam and Electric cars were very much better and had been so for the previous 60 years.

[@wholeNwon]

Exactly !

[@wholeNwon]

Steam was great, once you got pressure up, and that took a while. Thereafter, the pilot kept thing pretty warm and the initial firing up period was shorter. Really cold weather was another story. Run low on water and have to suck it up from a pond or trough using the pumps, you'd have to jack up a rear wheel on a Stanley. They weren't very fuel-efficient and were very expensive. But they didn't kill you with a crank, though scalds were possible. Interesting tech.

[@AndrewLohmannKent]

The very fast Stanley steam cars were slow to heat up but many others were 90 seconds from cold. Having said that all these early cars were hard work to maintain or prepare before starting. I spoke to a guy with a British car called a Satelite made in 1914 and that car has half a dozen things to lubricate before you start the car.

[@geesantavee1294]

great video.... how these men struggled thru with Jokes!... big, satisfying WIN lol

[@starpuss]

*KickAss Engine! Love the 2 stroke engines!!!*

[@frankeaston6832]

thanks for the info you're right the later two stroke engines are light years ahead of the chase better designs. the fuel and oil today are much much better by the way I overhaul Maytag 2 cylinder washing machine engines very Innovative 2-stroke design

[@ClassicChrome86]

Very cool video. Very good info. Thanks for posting. Just subscribed.

[@nopochoclos]

It reminds me of when I run out of battery in my Citroen 3cv, the crank is very short, you need a lot of strength to beat the compression, but it's funny people keep watching because they do not think they can turn on like that.

[@kimmer6]

Kerosene lantern running lights. 10-12 candle power.

[@boalmstrom1232]

kimmer6 ko

[@superhyphy129]

wow my car couldnt even hold a candle to those numbers.................

[@A_Man_In_His_Van]

Nope acetylene.

[@kimmer6]

Stop at 2:29 and see the kerosene fuel font, wick raising knob, and burner.

[@emztwisted605]

Its time to go bro! The cops are here! Alright! Give me a min or an hour to turn on the engine! 😂

[@nikolayshestakov3107]

Машине 100 лет и она ездит. Это же круто!

[@aaron71]

NH plate at a PA show... did he DRIVE THERE?

[@Hotrodelectric]

Not necessarily, though that would have been epic.

[@kevinbyrne4538]

It's downhill from NH to PA. Just check any map -- NH is above PA. ;)

[@HunterShows]

Of course not. They use trailers.

[@talon1706]

Ya, and I was behind him to whole time. :(

[@mickangio16]

After reading many comments I thought I'd add one. The motor was probably a bit hard to start because the owner is very much aware of the danger of motor kicking back. For engine to run properly the timing must be advanced to fire the spark plug BEFORE the piston reaches the top of it's stroke. When trying to start the engine the advanced ignition timing can cause the engine to kick back. To lessen the chance for a dangerous situation the timing is retarded until the motor starts and then advanced to optimum setting determined by the fuel being used, temperature, atmospheric conditions... all those things measured and adjusted for in modern vehicles by sensors & computers. With the early vehicles the adjustments were guesswork and getting to know your particular vehicle and what that vehicle likes under different circumstances and environments. A rich fuel mixture would probably make engine start easier but too much fuel could flood the engine and foul the spark plugs. I haven't bought any lately (or ever) but I would think that 1911 Chase spark plugs could be hard to find and probably not cheap. That could explain the owner's preference to keep his fuel mixture lean(?) As for the ignition timing, retarding the spark until after the piston has started on it's way back down the cylinder reduces the chance of the motor kicking back but makes the motor harder to light off. Better safe than sorry. I don't have experience with hand crank start engines but I do have with kick start motorcycles. On old kickstart Harley Davidson's the starting procedure was similar. You had to retard the timing to start or could be painfully injured. As for comments about "one wheel drive" and "one wheel peel" - I couldn't really see in video but I'm pretty sure that both wheels have a chain drive on them driven by a differential unit mounted under the car. I liked the video and appreciate the fact that somebody took care of that beautiful car. I would have liked even more to see it fully warmed up and driven.

[@kfl611]

I often wondered what was meant by spark advanced and spark retard. I know a lot of the cars had the adjustments on the steering wheel and it had to do with starting the car and it's smoothness of the engine's operation till it heated up. Thanks for the excellent explanation.

[@garychandler4296]

I would tend to believe that jacking the rear axle was to alleviate belt tension that we know as "clutch drag", which would make it even HARDER to crank.

[@markdotts6798]

Model "T" Fords were like that as well. In some cases, it was best to block the rear wheels to keep it from creeping forward.

[@javierbocajuniors4294]

Saludos flip. Hermoso tres cilindros del año del ped . Que sonido !!!!🤗🤗🤗

[@Mullay2]

This must have been air cooled much like the old Franklin. I see lots of cooling fins on the cylinder jugs, and no evidence of a radiator or water jackets.

[@henrykuliczka8038]

Mullay2 ,

[@aserta]

Air cooled indeed. There's a shroud that sucks air through the separated top grill, down through the back on the 3rd cylinder, and under, via a massive centrifugal fan.

[@gregorytimmons4777]

Shouldn't the primer cup valves be closed again after the prime?

[@machobunny1]

No wonder the horse lasted so long as the preferred way to get around. I can imagine, 100+ years ago, many people would call you insane to want to mess with something like that, when old Nellie was so eager to just hitch up and pull the surrey or sleigh, or plow. Now we get to go through all that again with semi-tenable innovations like the Tesla.

[@jameshay7247]

Old Nellie was only like that if you had a groom to clean, feed, and comb her, and put her harness or saddle on. Horses are high maintenance.

[@42lookc]

Being from Canada, I always wonder watching these videos, how they ever managed to start those cantankerous things in -30° weather. They seem hard enough on a perfect summer's afternoon! I can't imagine when everything is stiff and cold and the oil is thick.

[@AndyGeesGarage]

I asked my great grandmother , they had a McLaughlin Buick and her answer was they didn’t they either didn’t go or they hitched horses to the sleigh . There was no snow removal on the roads back then either.

[@misters2837]

My Grandfather drove Model Ts and his advice was to either take a bed of coals and place under the engine (Makes me Shudder to Think how "drippy" and close to heat the Holley NH was!) Or bring out the previously drained motor oil and water from the warm house...pour them in and start it up.

[@kfl611]

You get some big arms cranking this car in the winter.

[@1951don]

That was great. The cylinder heads look like something off an old motorcycle of that era. Somebody said that its a 2-stroke? Wow.

[@valve0radio]

Yes!;,. you can see that there is no valve casings, and that the exhaust manifold comes from the ports at the bottom of it's stroke! Also you can see individual sump/ crank-case per cylinder for its crankcase induction aspiration.

[@stevenking2980]

Wow that's awesome! Thanks!

[@Maxumized]

Was this a Buster Keaton lookalike contest too?

[@mortier9]

I'd say Harold Lloyd.

[@Matt40andstuff]

this ones pretty cool, looks air cooled?

[@edisonphonographs]

Is this one wheel drive? Nice car. Thanks

[@lelboy]

It's supposed to start "lean"?

[@jvmiller1995]

He will loose his thumb one day if he keeps grabing that crank like that. Anyony who has ever started those old engines and had one kick back while still holding the crank knows to tuck your thumb so if it kicks the crank comes out of your hand and not break your thumb. cool car

[@frankeggers4024]

+Jeremy Miller In 1914 a GM executive died of complications of a broken arm sustained while cranking a Cadillac for a woman. That impelled GM to develop a practical electric starter.

[@jvmiller1995]

+Frank Eggers Thats a cool piece of info i did not know.

[@szili76]

+Frank Eggers actually not true...

[@Cragified]

Funny thing about such stories, they generally aren't true. DELCO patented the first electric starter in America in 1911. And Cadillac was the first to install them on automobiles in 1912.

[@Mercmad]

Delco patented it's own electric starter but wasn't the First . That honour belonged to another guy. Samuel Rushmore. His earliest patent preceded Delcos but the interesting about him was that he had a young German guy working for him who picked up a few hints on Automotive electrical gear, Robert Bosch.The later products from Bosch all used the moving armature feature of the Rushmore units. Samuel Rushmore passed away forgotten in the automotive world . The newest car i have worked on with full Rushmore electrical gear (lights even) was a 1913 Vulcan, made in England.

[@hanestshirtsarecool]

Is that a Hemi?

[@boataxe4605]

Rick Delair Ok, enough of the Saab story.

[@peopleofthecircle]

Now, we only need to turn the key! Thank goodness for innovation.

[@deltaforce4214]

Boss: why are you late and sweaty Me: car problem

[@mauriciotadeu924]

estes herois preservam a historia!

[@robertocarlosramosgonzalez9770]

Apenas para mí, que acostumbro salir sobre el tiempo ,y ya me veo prendiendo ese cacharro.

[@edisonphonographs]

@DominikDrinkhahn I was looking for the differential and could not see it so I thought it was one wheel drive. Thanks

[@ramairgto72]

Wonder how much of that engine could be made in a home garage today...

[@jaswmclark]

You would need to have a good pattern maker and foundry to duplicate the castings. Otherwise any decent machine shop could make a copy.

[@Kagaines]

Solid tires?

[@mortier9]

No, it has pneumatic tires with inner tubes.

[@markohynninen2553]

Now this is real MOTORSPORT ! ; )

[@rob-the-priest260]

2:23 and there was much rejoicing...😆

[@jamesbecker3203]

LOL x D

[@marcocazar4266]

Es una obra de arte, Una maravilla

[@dima.jiharev]

No start button, why?!

[@jordydominguez3395]

Does it do a burn out

[@tihzho]

Aviation gas (AV GAS) still uses tetraethyllead (TEL) for an octane rating of 100. So leaded gas is still out there!

[@condimentking14]

2 cycle?

[@NJPurling]

Those barrels and heads remind me of a Trabant motor.

[@bobbylee2853]

A hand cranked time machine!?

[@davewayne9610]

I know if the hand cranked cars backfired it could easily break your arm.

[@no1dirtbag]

+DAVE WAYNE if the engine kicked back it (the handcrank) would disengage

[@frankeggers4024]

+Valeriy Reiter We'll forgive the English. Most of us can speak only one language so you're doing better than most of us. However, a brake is what stops the car. A break is a fractured bone or other item.

[@valeriyreiter4199]

Frank Eggers Oh, sorry for that... :D It's a bit difficult to remember Russian, English, Spanish and German at the same time and without a lot of practice

[@szili76]

+Valeriy Reiter now you are just bragging!

[@valeriyreiter4199]

szili76 Maybe, unconsciously

[@DesertSessions93]

Wow that looks like a two stroke!

[@caroltenge5147]

what would ralph nader say?

[@twistedyogert]

"That's unsafe at any speed?" "You'll get killed on that thing!"

[@Creeperboy099]

sorta reminds me of the V8 hemi engine that the Big Red air raid siren runs on

[@samtellier7441]

dud that's from New Hampshire I live in that state

[@rafaelrosendo4053]

two Strokes ?

[@joem1767]

A whole new meaning to "honey, I'll go warm up the car"

[@kfl611]

Honey I'll go warm up my arm and back muscles ! Oh my aching back.

[@97TRAKIN]

That "One wheel peel" though!...

[@ralphturner3798]

Back in 1911 was it really that difficult to start that car? Can you imagine a potential buyer showing up at a dealership and having the salesman take that long to start the car? They'd loose a lot of sales, I would imagine. The Ford model T came out in 1908, and I don't think that it was hard to start.

[@mortier9]

A Ford Model T was a simple car, but the actual starting process was involved: turn on fuel valve under the car, check oil level by opening petcock underneath car, set throttle lever, set spark lever, place car in neutral, close choke, set mag/battery switch. Only then can you turn the crank and hope it starts!

[@AndyGeesGarage]

Cars were very hard to start, in fact Kettering the inventor of the electric starter had a friend die of infection that resulted from a broken jaw that happened while starting his car. Cadillac started putting them on their cars in 1912.

[@HunterShows]

I don't think so. Probably out of adjustment or something like that. It should start in a few tries.

[@noscwoh1]

Egad! This video should be "how NOT to start a 1911 Chase." Never, EVER crank a car like that! If that engine had backfired, the poor owner would not only have a broken arm but probably a shattered jaw as well! A 2-cycle can kick back just like a 4-cycle can. That being said, it's a beautiful car with a very unique engine. It should start on the first pull -- the problem might be a weak magneto, or just a poor state of tune. Cranked cars aren't that hard to start in practice if they're in shape.

[@jameshay7247]

And his head would have exploded, and he would have been thrown into another dimension...

[@bedspread6224]

dude needs an 18volt dewalt

[@K1ll3rM4st3r]

It seems the way he is cranking it is dangerous. If i'm not wrong here, its a 2 stroke and 2 strokes are sometimes known for running backwards... it could take his arm off! Should be using his left hand for cranking.

[@DahlbAZ]

So this is a vtech?

[@davsaltego]

Why not still use 2-stroke engines? Less complicated and every other stroke is a power stroke. Seems like they’re more efficient and less polluting.

[@mortier9]

They are simpler in design than a 4-stroke, but not less polluting, as you mix oil in with the fuel and it all goes out the tail pipe.

[@CakMadHudiLamongan]

what this cars??

[@DesertDigger1]

Can you imagine trying to start it when its about 8 degrees outside?

[@ianreed1528]

Two stroke???

[@mortier9]

Yes, a 3-cylinder, 2-stroke, air-cooled engine. This design eliminated a lot of parts.

[@ianreed1528]

@@mortier9 I know there are a lot less moving parts in a 'stroker, I'm just a bit surprised that this uses one. They weren't really very efficient until Ernst Daegner improved the exhaust technology

[@kfl611]

Does the car have no doors?

[@mortier9]

Correct, this car has no doors. This was often the case with autos made before World War I. The body designs were similar to carriages. Some cars had no tops or windscreens, either.

[@kfl611]

@@mortier9 Or seat belts or air bags ! I guess if your top speed was 10 mph, it was sort of safe.

[@manoelbandeira3729]

Imagina na época o cara ter que fazer toda essa manobra de manhã pra ligar o carro, mais valia ir trabalhar a pé mesmo.

[@miketalbot6974]

Dude ur picture perfect . Love da outfit ☺️

[@AultmanTaylor]

originally they all where highwheeler trucks we have one but it's stuck

[@ObiTrev]

What's the Sewing Machine oil for?

[@mortier9]

The oil can contains gasoline which he adds to the cylinders. This helps with a cold start.

[@Pandaoniman]

This is perfect with the youtube 1911.

[@nerrawmitchell]

I love this vid and all but I saw a car that was from the 1910's and it started in a lazy quarter crank but it was very well tuned. Now I'm not saying that one isn't tuned but ya.

[@Mr69barracuda]

Would not like to have to start that for work on a cold winter morning!

[@mschiffel1]

What a PITA to start.

[@SupraMsR]

2:53 nice exhaust ;)

[@74LesPaul]

All these old car starting videos . . they should have one starting the PT Cruiser.

[@Daveinet]

With the way mechanical mentality was back then, I always wondered why they didn't have a clutch that would engage a large spring to spin the motor to start it. Once the engine starts, make the engine wind up the spring, so it is ready to go next time.

[@mortier9]

That was actually an accessory item you could buy to fit the old crank-start cars. You don't see many today, however. They also had starters that used the acetylene gas that lit the headlamps.

[@Daveinet]

@@mortier9 That is interesting. With all the videos of old cars out today, its surprising to not have ever seen that setup. Something I'll have to search for. I always liked the startup for the old Field Marshall tractors.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

@@Daveinet A shotgun shelll to the head...always starts something....

[@Daveinet]

@@JohnSmith-yv6eq LOL

[@BigBoyLies]

early cars are basically a horse carriage with an engine slapped onto it

[@kfl611]

But not as reliable as the horse.

[@mewhor]

Such a dangerous way to start a car especially after it had been choked and primed so much

[@JoeKyser]

lead helped seat the valves :)

[@michaelvrooman5681]

lead also deters detonation.

[@Mr69barracuda]

Lead did many things. Lead helped reduce engine knocking, boost octane ratings, and helped with wear and tear on valve seats within the Engine.

[@furripupau]

Interesting that it is a two-stroke.

[@gathotkaca6911]

Drip, drip, and it works... Cool

[@ronaldomello4463]

Essas invenções antigas são o maior barato.

[@raybin6873]

That's Bernie Sanders first car! LoL! 😁 (Love ya Bernie!)

[@douro20]

Chain-drive transmission to one rear wheel- that's how the early Mercedes racers were built. I'd imagine these things are hardly a breeze to drive.

[@aserta]

Both wheels are chain driven, with a center dif.

[@bbishoppcm]

NEVER, EVER crank an engine that way. That's the fastest way to lose an arm. ALWAYS crank by bringing the engine to a compression stroke, then "flip" the handle with your palm open. If the engine backfires the way he's cranking it, it'll rip his arm off.

[@kfl611]

I thought he was doing it wrong too !

[@motodude1]

Starter motors are a good thing....

[@alexproz6368]

[@alexanderwingeskog758]

Need to get my eyes checked... for a brief moment I read it as (Porsche) 911... But anyway! loved it! although 3 or more hands would be preferable if you own this cars and want to start it... quick :-)

[@JimmyKraktov]

Aerodynamic. Cupid uses arrows :~)

[@yanhoo4249]

Pneumatic valve. Amazing

[@Guns_N_Gears]

That guy is gonna hate life if that engine ever kicks back.

[@Krankie_V]

"they put lead in gas in the '20s" umm no leaded gasoline wasn't made available to the public until after WWII, it was developed for aircraft engines first

[@mortier9]

Check Wikipedia under "Tetraethyllead" to read more about lead additives in fuel. It began in the 1920s. Here is a link that provides more detail of its introduction in motor fuel: www.toxipedia.org/display/toxipedia/History+of+Lead+Use.

[@Krankie_V]

mortier9 interesting, that almost totally contradicts a documentary I watched on it a while back

[@johnharrison2466]

no wonder they didn't use vehicles back then for get away cars

[@bryanmartinez6600]

John Harrison yes they did police had too do the same too 😂

[@rosslink1961]

you can thank Cadillac for that

[@brandonbishop1500]

NEVER start an engine with a closed hand... you can rip an arm out this way, should the engine backfire.

[@wi11y1960]

That is the rule for a model T Ford, not necessarily for all engines.

[@philipcooper8297]

wi11y1960 It is for all engines, even on motorcycles the lever kicks back.

[@bikejunk1]

+Brandon Bishop that has a lot to do with how the crank is engaged on more deluxe cars it is a ratchet rather than just a sprung cog that engages the engine cheap cars like a model t Ford or my 1914 Maxwell will break your wrist if your stupid enough to start it with the ignition advanced

[@jameshay7247]

It used to be a broken wrist, then a losing a thumb... next generation will insist it will rip you in half...

[@frankeggers4024]

Looks like a two-stroke engine.

[@valeriyreiter4199]

+Frank Eggers Yeah, it is)))

[@Nick_1911]

Yeah but is 3 Cyl look @ 2:41:)

[@Kole208]

so arrow dynamic!

[@kaivanfreak]

I think you're right

[@TalenGryphon]

One wheel drive! Cheaper than two!