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Tamiya Extra Thin Cement And Tamiya Airbrush cleaner - The Truth

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Tamiya Extra Thin Cement And Tamiya Airbrush cleaner - The Truth
So we test the Theory That Tamiya Airbrush Cleaner and Tamiya Extra Thin Cement are the same product and do the Same Thing!! Cement plastic Together!! Tamiya Cement is a go to product for Model Kit Builders so its only worth testing the theory that tamiya airbrush cleaner can glue plastic parts together just as well as tamiya extra thin cement...
Have a watch and let me know if you would use Airbrush Cleaner to glue your plastic parts together, leave a comment below
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Here are the Data Sheets
tamiya airbrush cleaner asset.conrad.c...
Tamiya Extra thin cement
www.hobby2you.e...
I grab a bottle of Tamiya Airbrush cleaner and a bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin Cement and see if the Ingredients in the bottles are the same and if the airbrush Cleaner will cement parts together.
Since the video I now know its 50/50 mix with the cement and 51/49 mix for the cleaner
Have a watch and let me know if you would use Airbrush Cleaner to glue your plastic parts together, leave a comment below
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@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Buy Tamiya Airbrush cleaner here amzn.to/3JYWTE0
@sorvad99
@sorvad99 2 жыл бұрын
only snag is £8.99 delivery! not a great saving, I'm going to check ebay and some other shops I think that delivery charge is really steep.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
@@sorvad99 i see 3.95 delivery.. check amazon for your own country by selecting it in the options
@sorvad99
@sorvad99 2 жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models I'm in the UK and I followed your link the only postage option I can see is £8.99 I don't know if I'm doing something wrong? I can only see this one and another for £24.56
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
@@sorvad99 Wow.. Looks like the cheaper sellers have sold out.. People must be buying all the stock lol.. give it a week and the price will go low again.. the company i bought from was froom italy and they had 30 in stock :when i did the video and now arent showing in the choices...
@sorvad99
@sorvad99 2 жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models Everyones seen your video mate :D
@bluedotdinosaur
@bluedotdinosaur Жыл бұрын
I noticed the chatter over this a few months ago and jumped on it. One tip! Don't throw away your previous Tamiya cement bottle. It is glass and will last forever. Keep it and use the airbrush cleaner bulk bottle to refill it!
@leovaeg
@leovaeg Жыл бұрын
and if you add bits of used sprues you can make "sprue goo" to help fill in gaps and put models together better
@Panos-xo9rc
@Panos-xo9rc 2 жыл бұрын
"Flowery,sort of sweetness smell"? Dude,you have taken the sniffing glue thing to next level...🤣
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
it was a whiff.. promise
@tippo5341
@tippo5341 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@BobMuir100
@BobMuir100 Жыл бұрын
Hi, it’s 51% 49% on the cleaner and 50% 50% on the cement. Just print off the data sheets (a legal requirement as toxic) and it shows they are the same. So yes one does get nearly 6 times as much so just fill your empty cement bottle and it’s cash in the bank! Bob England
@AAWOLFE-zc6ly
@AAWOLFE-zc6ly Жыл бұрын
here is my recipe for thin cement, which works exactly like Tamiya.... 50% lacquer thinner + 50% Acetone this will have much less odor than cellulose thinner/ lacquer thinner on its own, and less odor than Tamiya thin cement... the acetone facilitates fast clean evaporation, with some solvent power, the lacquer thinner is the stronger solvent that melts the plastic. enjoy ;O)
@Martin-so7ep
@Martin-so7ep Жыл бұрын
@@AAWOLFE-zc6ly does this really work ? how many kits have you tried this on ? Im really confused what to buy at this point, airbrush cleaner seems a perfect bang for buck
@TheDigitalThreat
@TheDigitalThreat Жыл бұрын
Saw the chemical breakdown of the two compared. They were 'near' identical. Not exact but so close its safe to call them the same. I forget which was which and the exact molecular designations (actone, Butyl ect) but the breakdown looked like this 49-51 / 50-50 basically just 1% difference in the mixture
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@technomicah
@technomicah 7 ай бұрын
I'm going a step further and ordering the chemicals from a local supplier. 50-50 Butyl Acetate-Acetone. Thanks for the visual confirmation!
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 7 ай бұрын
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@stuartsteel1
@stuartsteel1 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know why people bother buying airbrush cleaner. You can buy 2lts of cellulose thinner for about £15 and it cleans anything.
@Brabbs
@Brabbs 6 ай бұрын
Which brand? How much can you verify it can blend toy plastics together? (Asking as someone working with lego.)
@stuartsteel1
@stuartsteel1 6 ай бұрын
@@Brabbs I was talking in terms of cleaning your airbrush, not bonding. I can't get hold of the Tamiya airbrush cleaner in the first place to try the bonding aspect.
@h.cedric8157
@h.cedric8157 5 ай бұрын
​@@BrabbsMEK is what this Lego builder uses for gluing together big builds in his job
@vincentjackson3472
@vincentjackson3472 2 ай бұрын
​Methyl ethyl keytone? My dad used to get me that feom his work when i was bur a wee nipper starting out! Tha varnished bar stools at their home still wear the battle scars of an MEK spillage... 😅​@@h.cedric8157
@x3mperformace
@x3mperformace Жыл бұрын
If you glue up, before fitting the parts together, use normal Tamiya cement. The Extra Thin and Airbrush cleaner, is used by capillary reaction, hold the parts together, and add the Extra Thin / Airbrush cleaner to the small gap. This is only for use with pats that fits perfect together. If there are some gaps, use normal cement.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@tcandle695
@tcandle695 Жыл бұрын
Some modelers use MEK (which also contains acetone) as model glue. For airbrush I use cheap hardware store lacquer thinner or Acetone. I don't dip the rubber seals in this stuff. It will deform and destroy them. I will order a bottle of Tamiya airbrush cleaner and repack it in a extra thin cement bottle. Thanks for the tip.
@williamaycock579
@williamaycock579 Жыл бұрын
Good lord! That’s extreme and hazardous as hell. I’ve seen MEK do some nasty stuff to vinyl floor tiles. I’ve never left footprints in a floor tile before someone tried using MEK as a floor cleaner.
@Kconv1
@Kconv1 Жыл бұрын
@@williamaycock579 I use MEK substitute, which is acetone and ethyll butate, and it works great. You can put it in a oil syringe for oiling gears and it works GREAT!
@bas6983
@bas6983 6 ай бұрын
Mek is not containing acetone. Its a chemical component in itself as is acetone. They may have similar characteristics but are not the same or an ingredient.
@timcampbell1830
@timcampbell1830 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, you could have just shown the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for each one rather than guessing, or going off what you’ve heard, or anything like that. It’s not a conspiracy, or folklore or anything like that. It’s verifiable.
@jasonmonday3556
@jasonmonday3556 2 жыл бұрын
This. Both bottles contain a 1:1 mix of acetone and butyl acetate. There's nothing to test.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
i didnt have them to after the video.. one is in german but you get the jist surely that this is pushed out there so i ran with it and made a video
@TheRalle100
@TheRalle100 2 жыл бұрын
The MSDS (Sicherheitsdatenblätter in German) require only to include harmful or otherwise categorized material. So if Tamiya research testet something like Green tea (or any other unregulated substance)in in the extra thin its possible that it won't show up in the MSDS
@TheTedazerty
@TheTedazerty 4 ай бұрын
Yep, I use micro thin cement to clean the paint leftovers on my desk. Works perfectly!
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 4 ай бұрын
Me too ;)
@ModelMinutes
@ModelMinutes 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I wonder how many other products out there are virtually identical - i do find it frustrating that some of these products don't tell you exactly what is in them, merely that it "Contains" this or that - I'm convinced that Humbrol Clearfix is the same as Bostik general purpose glue, but just in a glass bottle with a 100% mark up . . .
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree.. we know humbrol paint is rustins...
@fightersweep
@fightersweep 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Must admit, this had passed me by somehow (and I spend too much time on modelling forums). As someone who swears by Tamiya Extra Thin cement, I'm totally sold! I was just about to order another bottle, so you saved me money just in the nick of time.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! link to buy it on amazon in the description
@robertfaust9406
@robertfaust9406 11 ай бұрын
I tested this recently on some model parts, and it works!
@bugler75
@bugler75 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I can buy this in France 👍🏼 One of the few perks!!
@oveiron_prime
@oveiron_prime 2 жыл бұрын
yes, it is exactly the same!!! it sticks just as well, plus savings 😊 50% acetone + 50 % ethyl acetate
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@kamui004
@kamui004 2 жыл бұрын
It's Butyl acetate in the cleaner and extra thin. Ethyl Acetate 40%, Acetone 40% and 20% MEK is what's in the extra thin quick type. Where I live although some chemicals are regulated you can still get a liter of acetone for around £2 and Butyl acetate for £10. That makes 2 liters of airbrush cleaner/extra thin cement for £12. Ethyl Acetate is around the same £10 and MEK around £20 that would make 2.5 liters of quick type for £20 with some MEK leftover. And yes I've done both and they smell and work the same as the Tamiya ones.
@oveiron_prime
@oveiron_prime 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamui004 Yes, very good recipe ! MEK (Methyl Ethyl Ketone, MEC or Butanone in France) increases the viscosity, we obtain a glue like that from Revell. Properly store, for not very expensive, you can make liters of glue for years !
@statoilbensin2190
@statoilbensin2190 2 жыл бұрын
@@oveiron_prime True however butanon (mek) is carninogenic so I would avoid using it too much.
@Andy.Gledhill.Models.
@Andy.Gledhill.Models. 2 жыл бұрын
I have never used Tamiya Airbrush Cleaner. I have the Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner. I also use the Mr Color Tool Cleaner. Now that stuff is amazing at cleaning your brushes. They probably have the same ingredients. But I will be sticking with proper cement.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@christopher5723
@christopher5723 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at the MSDS Sheets the products are for practical purposes identical, its just the airbrush cleaner is 51%/49% vs 50/50 for the Extra Thin
@roarexenl
@roarexenl Жыл бұрын
yes so not the same but works none the less
@everythingrc2324
@everythingrc2324 Жыл бұрын
@@roarexenllol
@roarexenl
@roarexenl Жыл бұрын
Work and hobby mixing.
@lordofthestings
@lordofthestings 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I wonder if the other airbrush cleaners you mentioned would have the same effect? Thanks for the video.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 11 ай бұрын
Good question!
@JohnSmith-gm4fj
@JohnSmith-gm4fj 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy it. The MSDS sheets do say one is 50/50 while the other is 51/49. Basically they are the same.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@sonicwingnut
@sonicwingnut 4 ай бұрын
Recently they seem to have gone up in price a bit and are increasingly hard to get in the UK - probably because people realised they can use it to top up their more expensive Tamiya extra thin bottles. The cheapest I can get one delivered is around £20 including shipping. I did have a look about for any other similar products that were cheaper or more available though, and one that looks promising is Mr Hobby Tool Cleaner. This also appears to be a mix of butyl acetate and acetone, but I found it for around £14 delivered for a 400ml bottle. That works out at I'm going to pull the trigger on some and see how well it works - I'm at a hobby fair tomorrow with lots of trade stands so hopefully one of them has a bottle - if not though I'm going to keep an eye out for other similar products.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 4 ай бұрын
Yep that tool cleaner is on my bench now as you are correct the price of it has got steep
@polticalme1677
@polticalme1677 Жыл бұрын
I heard about this before and I like the idea very much, but there's a much cheaper method. I use plain acetone (1 litre, 5 €), fill it into an empty Tamiya Extra Thin bottle and add Styrofoam ("fluffy" styrene) till I got the consistancy I want. Of course, you want to use it carefully, because acetone could "eat" the styrene parts. The styorfoam helps with welding the parts together and makes the acetone less aggressive. One litre of acetone is 25 times the amount of one bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin. So I save 120 €.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@polticalme1677
@polticalme1677 Жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models Thanks for your answer. And I subbed.
@leovaeg
@leovaeg Жыл бұрын
so does the Styrofoam replace the Butyl Acetate somehow?
@polticalme1677
@polticalme1677 Жыл бұрын
@@leovaeg No, the styrofoam simply dissolves. Plastic cements are usually mostly made of acetone and styrene (styrofoam). The more styrofoam you add, the thicker the glue gets. I make mine thinner than Tamiya Extra Thin and apply it with a 5/0 round brush. The bond is stronger than with the Tamiya glue, but I haven't found out why yet.
@sakidickerson
@sakidickerson 28 күн бұрын
Is there any good dropper bottle that can hold this stuff without melting?
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 28 күн бұрын
i dont think so.. hence why they are in glass bottles
@huwtindall7096
@huwtindall7096 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe they are exactly the same but seem they are close enough to work! Very interesteing!
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
worth trying it out for yourself :)
@lesgl
@lesgl 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my bottle here in Oz not long after it came on the market and first thing i thought was the smell was the same as the glue..makes a great brush cleaner too and burns out any paint in a airbrush that's for sure another good airbrush cleaner/paint cleaner is the one made by Life Color which came out on top of a round up of cleaners here on the 'Tube a while back
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@henkvermeer8652
@henkvermeer8652 Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the smell of 70's Pactra cement. (C-ment)
@guraykera8920
@guraykera8920 2 жыл бұрын
acetone and acetate have different densities. measure cleaner and cement's weights in same volume. if they weigh same, then their composition is identical. if there is difference, then tamiya uses different ratio to mix them.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
only 1% difference
@tuppywuppy
@tuppywuppy Жыл бұрын
By the way what is that little plastic brush thing you use to apply the glue ?
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@czerskip
@czerskip 2 ай бұрын
I don't actually believe there's any difference in the composition. A single percentage point is likely below the measurement error in the formula. I'm pretty sure they differentiate the composition on the labels only for legal reasons, otherwise they're bottled from a single source…
@phillipsiviter2024
@phillipsiviter2024 2 жыл бұрын
Hi MOS, 1001 Hobbies has this in stock at present for £11.99, more expensive than Amazon or eBay but you get it quicker.
@JeffDonahueScaleModeling
@JeffDonahueScaleModeling 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've heard this before, but never tried it. I guess it's time to order some Tamiya Airbrush Cleaner. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. Jeff
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
link in the description if you want to buy some :)
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I am ordering some now, and deffo would not leave it in the airbrush after cleaning it, I'd flush with IPA then clean water last, but that's my OCD. It should also be good for removing my nail varnish 🙂
@timcampbell1830
@timcampbell1830 2 жыл бұрын
What would be the point of flushing out the airbrush cleaner with alcohol and then water? That really defeats the point.
@sarathvandenbosch3888
@sarathvandenbosch3888 11 ай бұрын
I bought Tamiya Airbrush cleaner and when I smelled it I thought, That smell is familiar to me. It smells the same as the glue. and the packaging says "melts plastic" So I tried sticking a piece of plastic on another piece of plastic and it stays rock solid. and very quickly too. so now i have 250ml glue.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 11 ай бұрын
Yep my friend..
@HobbyBarn
@HobbyBarn 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing this I will never clean my airbrush with this stuff. I have not kept my airbrushes like new for the past 40 years by cleaning them with glue. LOL I will however, buy this to glue parts with since it is a lot cheaper. Thanks for sharing this. Have a great week buddy. Terry
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
link in the description if you want to buy some :) Im gonna clean my airbrush with it just to try it :) but i would flush it out with IPA after
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 2 жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models I was about to say the same!!
@timcampbell1830
@timcampbell1830 2 жыл бұрын
Then you completely misunderstand the point. Neither are a glue - both are essentially the same solvent. It won’t damage your airbrush. How do you think so many people use the Airbrush Cleaner with such success?
@statoilbensin2190
@statoilbensin2190 2 жыл бұрын
I use exclusively butyl acetate to clean my airbrush and its not a glue. Its used as ingridients in many different glues and paints. Its a nitro cellulose thinner and wont destroy youre airbrush.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
@@timcampbell1830 they do recommend to flush it through before using it to spray.. i always put ipa in the cup when not in use and spray it out before adding thinners then paint
@tonyperez4791
@tonyperez4791 2 жыл бұрын
Great video , thank you for sharing. Hope you and your loved ones have a great/safe week. Cheers, Tony
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
thank you.. you too
@Aroo_0
@Aroo_0 2 жыл бұрын
I clean my airbrush with acetone, around $7.99 a 16oz bottle, it does the job very very very effectively.
@garyparker2969
@garyparker2969 Жыл бұрын
You Just SOLD ME 🏆🏆 God Bless You 🙏🇺🇸
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
yeah works great
@danytalloen
@danytalloen Жыл бұрын
Never thought of that, over here the price of the cement is 6 euros and the cleaner is 11 euros...
@Erin-oh
@Erin-oh Ай бұрын
seems as rare as rocking horse poo😂
@jeff72_
@jeff72_ 2 жыл бұрын
Both products are solvent based, the Extra Thin works by melt action and fuses parts together rather than like a traditional glue which bonds parts together.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
good answer
@necaacen
@necaacen Жыл бұрын
theyre the same product in 2 different containers.
@danko6582
@danko6582 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a model maker, but I do fuse PLA 3D prints. I just buy bottles of chloroform from a local acrylic merchant for 2 quid for 150ml.
@jeremysargent5037
@jeremysargent5037 9 ай бұрын
Chloroform is a controlled substance in European countries and the UK. You need a license to buy it over here in any quantity.
@timcampbell1830
@timcampbell1830 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve posted the sources for the MSDS twice to reinforce what the video says and it keeps disappearing. Is there a reason for this?
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
links are blocked in comments to stop spam and illegal sites being posted
@shocknawe
@shocknawe 3 ай бұрын
Hey mate, what kind material is that brush made of?
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 3 ай бұрын
im not sure
@buysncharge
@buysncharge 7 ай бұрын
Acetone is cheap. But MEK and Butyl are expensive. So. Acetone.
@birodude
@birodude 2 жыл бұрын
I recently picked up a bottle of Tamiya Tool Cleaner. After watching your previous video I gave that a go. Guess what? It worked. Caveat: I think that it may work as Quick Setting cement rather than the regular Extra Thin cement. I'm not certain about that, but the liquid evaporated VERY quickly. I do know that I couldn't pre-apply it the way you demonstrated, Mos. I'm also unsure about the difference between the Airbrush Cleaner you have and the Tool Cleaner that I have.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@onefortheroad8115
@onefortheroad8115 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this... I never knew that.. well ive heard about it but never seen it work..
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@user-xh4mf7vl2w
@user-xh4mf7vl2w Жыл бұрын
I hope this is not too obvious a question, but I was wondering do you need to clean a paint brush if you use it to apply the thinner, and if so, what to use to clean the paint brush?
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
It just evaporates
@user-xh4mf7vl2w
@user-xh4mf7vl2w Жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models Great. Good to know no cleaning required. Thanks for prompt response!
@ModelkitStuff
@ModelkitStuff 2 жыл бұрын
well that was an eye opener, great tip to save some money
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly will have a bottle of airbrush cleaner on the shelf
@MrGene198
@MrGene198 6 ай бұрын
1 millions likes for you awe
@bobtano7824
@bobtano7824 Жыл бұрын
I have used it just fine here in the states.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@martinsearle714
@martinsearle714 Жыл бұрын
I had a really gummed up Airbrush (Needle wouldn't move) added a few drops of Extra Thin to my airbrush cleaner and almost instantly it all free'd up again, bit of a non cost effective way though.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
Yep.. all the same stuff
@jermasus
@jermasus Жыл бұрын
This will actually adds up overtime to a decent amount of savings, enough to buy a brand new model kit if you build a lot.
@randomnickify
@randomnickify Жыл бұрын
If you build a lot you clearly can afford model kits and tools :)
@timcampbell1830
@timcampbell1830 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried to post the MSDS information from the Tamiya Germany website, but that comment keeps disappearing. They are not identical, but essentially so, to within 1% of each other. I've no idea why that is. Maybe it's more defensible to market them as two different products when they are recorded as being of a slightly different composition. Tamiya Extra Thin (TET) cement:
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
i think thats why the cement can be be sold but the airbrush cleaner cant be sold in the uk...
@johnalecsscalemodeling
@johnalecsscalemodeling 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim - you are spot on the MSDS would show what chemicals are present, in what relative proportion. And it should dictate what they have to put on the label. The same two chemical entities. They'd need an HPLC to tell the difference between 51%/49% and 49%/51%.
@seansamlee6490
@seansamlee6490 Жыл бұрын
aw man, if i know this sooner, i won't need to buy another extra thin cement bottle.
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@wombat_models
@wombat_models 2 жыл бұрын
There has to be a scale modeller out there somewhere who could do some analytical chemistry to determine the actual chemical composition of both?? I know how to do it but don't have access to any of the hardware for the analysis.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
You just need the data sheets.. its 50/50 and 51/49 thats it
@petermerz2704
@petermerz2704 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know Mos! Thanks for sharing. Happy days and model on! 😎🇨🇦
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You too!
@hawwab
@hawwab Жыл бұрын
so I can clean my airbrush with the super thin?
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@Steelbackuk
@Steelbackuk 2 жыл бұрын
Nowt wrong with being careful with the penny's. When I need some more extra thin,will give it a go
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
worth a shout
@richardhalliday6469
@richardhalliday6469 9 ай бұрын
The employees of Lego when building the large models and repairing outdoor exhibits at Legoland use solely MEK
@bradleyjones5932
@bradleyjones5932 10 ай бұрын
just use the Tamiya cement to clean your airbrush, LOL
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 10 ай бұрын
Good idea!
@CreamAle
@CreamAle Жыл бұрын
given that there are datasheets available and both products only differ by 1% to stay within regs? yeah theyre the same product, not the exact same due to that 1% difference, but functionally identical.
@jframe9715
@jframe9715 Жыл бұрын
Can I mix generic Butyl Acetate and Acetone? I can get both cheaper then the Tamiya Airbrush cleaner.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
I dont know
@esbenrasmussen4289
@esbenrasmussen4289 Жыл бұрын
To save even more, just buy acetone or even lacquer thinner, whichever is cheaper. Butyl acetate has a higher boiling point, so I guess it is in there to extend the drying time.... For cleaning purposes, definitely just buy the cheap stuff, whichever solvent that is used in the paint, whether water or acetone or cellulose thinner or isopropyl alcohol
@MOS6510Models
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@Kconv1
@Kconv1 Жыл бұрын
Should be able to get both of those in a Gundam shop.
@MOS6510Models
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@clouddog2393
@clouddog2393 2 жыл бұрын
You realise that you won,t be on Tamiya,s Xmas card list after this revelation but expect to be deluged with them from grateful modellers who,ve saved a few quid .
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
is anyone on the list? lol
@viperseven1922
@viperseven1922 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting. I wonder if the capillar effect (putting parts together, then apply glue (cleaner)) works too.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
yes it will do.. the consistency is the same
@timcampbell1830
@timcampbell1830 2 жыл бұрын
It works because it’s the same stuff. You don’t need to wonder about it.
@jasonmonday3556
@jasonmonday3556 2 жыл бұрын
They work the same way because they're the same thing - a 1:1 blend of acetone and butyl acetate. There's no mystery and there was no reason to test it. Just look at the Material Safety Data Sheets.
@shane142
@shane142 4 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Tamiya Airbrush cleaner and made sprue glue. Then see if it responds the same??
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 4 ай бұрын
That’s what the video is about!! lol
@IshanDeston
@IshanDeston Жыл бұрын
Alternatively you could just have compared the Safety Datasheets. That is where the 49 to 51 thing is coming from :)
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@MarkHevingham
@MarkHevingham 2 жыл бұрын
You could go one further and buy acetone and ethyl acetate in much larger bottles and make your own?
@timcampbell1830
@timcampbell1830 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Butyl Acetate. Not Ethyl Acetate.
@kevintraynor2749
@kevintraynor2749 2 жыл бұрын
so if the airbrush cleaner is the same as the extra thin does that mean it will make sprue goo like the extra thin?????
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@stephenrose1343
@stephenrose1343 Жыл бұрын
Great video, naughty Tamiya!
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@crazylocha2515
@crazylocha2515 2 жыл бұрын
Will take this opportunity to remind everyone to be safe, make sure of proper ventilation, and wash your hands Nerds. What's the status of the closest fire extinguisher? (Reminder to check it)
@spikeriches8821
@spikeriches8821 2 жыл бұрын
Think you sold me on it mate. Have heard bout this before. Never seen anyone prove it
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Please share the video matey let others know
@paulcarpenter8056
@paulcarpenter8056 2 жыл бұрын
Checked Amazon - cleaner £8.39 for 250ml, glue £7.25 for 40ml. My orders in.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Yep....
@VERY_MAD_ALIEN
@VERY_MAD_ALIEN 2 жыл бұрын
If you really want to know, use atomic emission spectroscopy to find out the difference.
@robertclassicconstructiona1830
@robertclassicconstructiona1830 25 күн бұрын
Sorry I listened to the video multiple times and still don't know what that yellow adjustable brush is and I want one ......any chance you can let me know , thanks
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 25 күн бұрын
@@robertclassicconstructiona1830 flex-i-file.com/products/nano-brushes here they are
@robertclassicconstructiona1830
@robertclassicconstructiona1830 25 күн бұрын
@@MOS6510Models thanks
@robertmunoz7543
@robertmunoz7543 Жыл бұрын
Glad it didn't take a day to dry like using future they used to say it needed to dry!🙄 Jman
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@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 2 жыл бұрын
😅 luckily it does work. I got a bottle recently, but havn't tried it yet.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
got a good supply then for a while :)
@lloydgarland4667
@lloydgarland4667 Жыл бұрын
you can do even better than that Mozzie, 1 litre of methyl ethyl ketone for 12 quid! Not quite the same chemical but does the exact same job. MEK was, and still is sold as model cement (Slaters) - I grew up using the stuff.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that product now banned?
@lloydgarland4667
@lloydgarland4667 Жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models I don't know, both MEK and Slater's MEK are available in the bay and it's non-carginagenic as far as I know. Maybe some research is in order.....
@lloydgarland4667
@lloydgarland4667 Жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models Looks like it is, yes - but it's still available for food use (go figure!). Seems like it likes to burn! MEK is also known as 2-Butanone.....
@islandrc-duke1972
@islandrc-duke1972 2 жыл бұрын
great video and information,have a great weekend my friend
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
And you my friend
@brettpeacock9116
@brettpeacock9116 2 жыл бұрын
If you buy Correction Fluid thinner (IF you can find it!@!) it also has the same ability to be used as a liquid cement with polystyrene parts. The difference between all 3 of them is the specific additives used in each, which varies. All I really care about is if it works at it's stated use. AND NOT if it is part of some "Giant Conspiracy" as touted by various idjits.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Nope there are no thickeners in those two tamiya products.. just two chemicals
@anthonylichfield3540
@anthonylichfield3540 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mos for the info were did you get that brush I want one 😃
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
Which one?
@anthonylichfield3540
@anthonylichfield3540 Жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models the brush you used to apply the cement
@georgeparis7675
@georgeparis7675 2 жыл бұрын
I buy 5 ltrs cellulose thinners and 5 ltrs panel wipe 15 quid each
@americanpatriot2422
@americanpatriot2422 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@BenjWarrant
@BenjWarrant 6 ай бұрын
Now clean your airbrush with the glue.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 6 ай бұрын
i have done :)
@statoilbensin2190
@statoilbensin2190 2 жыл бұрын
Abiously acetone, butylacetate, ethylacetate, butanon and xylene that is often used in lacquer thinner is often used in plastic cements since they melt plastic. However its not the same even tho they have the same ingridients. Plastic cement has a thickener to it. Butyl acetate is the strong banana smell in the glue/cleaner I use Thinner nr 5 to clean my airbrush as its pure butyl acetate the best solvent and its not so dangerous.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly you are wrong in regards to Tamiya.. There is no thickener in these products... they contain the same chemicals!
@statoilbensin2190
@statoilbensin2190 2 жыл бұрын
@@MOS6510Models They contain the same however have you seen how thick the standard cement from Tamiya is?
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 9 ай бұрын
@@statoilbensin2190 yes but I’m talking about tamiya extra thin.. not the white cement from tamiya
@glenmiller272
@glenmiller272 Жыл бұрын
I've used cellulose thinners as a liquid glue for over 25 years without any problems, tamiya glue is a rip off...
@MOS6510Models
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@Hobby360
@Hobby360 2 жыл бұрын
Nice....a cheaper way to make sprue goo instead of the expensive stuff :)
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@DiggerEvans
@DiggerEvans 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@birdyandotherstuff6857
@birdyandotherstuff6857 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, the airbrush cleaner can be used as extra thin glue, but can the extra thin glue be used as airbrush cleaner! To clean my airbrush I use Createx Airbrush Restorer. Takes averything away, no matter how long the paint is there…
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
I used Vallejo cleaner but if it’s really tough.. I use brush magic from deluxe materials
@timcampbell1830
@timcampbell1830 2 жыл бұрын
Well, yes, you can clean your airbrush with TET. It’s the same solvent. It’ll just cost you more.
@john_barnett
@john_barnett Жыл бұрын
But only the super fast dry has that extra *spice* of MEK. It smells amazing 🥴
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
Haha true
@rustyksradrodzgarage7087
@rustyksradrodzgarage7087 2 жыл бұрын
Well ain't that a kick in the pants....great video.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
just proved a poit.. the glass bottle with brush might be wear the value is..
@markkrumrey6238
@markkrumrey6238 2 жыл бұрын
Save your money, go to your local hardware store and get a can of MEK Substitute, or MEK. (Methyl Ethyl Keytone) I have been using it for over 30 years.
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.. thats the main ingredient to PVC cleaner too
@aliarslan3941
@aliarslan3941 6 ай бұрын
Does MEK glue the plastic by melting it? Is it like tamiya, MEK?
@joesanchez979
@joesanchez979 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@AAWOLFE-zc6ly
@AAWOLFE-zc6ly Жыл бұрын
here is my recipe for thin cement, which works exactly like Tamiya.... 50% lacquer thinner + 50% Acetone this will have much less odor than cellulose thinner/ lacquer thinner on its own, and less odor than Tamiya thin cement... the acetone facilitates fast clean evaporation, with some solvent power, the lacquer thinner is the stronger solvent that melts the plastic. enjoy ;O)
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models Жыл бұрын
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@TheDesertraptor
@TheDesertraptor Жыл бұрын
Just go to local hardware store and buy a bottle of acetone?
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@ET42Driver
@ET42Driver 8 ай бұрын
Long story short, it is the same.
@ZCJKF13GDG4
@ZCJKF13GDG4 Жыл бұрын
They taste the same too
@MOS6510Models
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@JeffreyStrader
@JeffreyStrader Жыл бұрын
Lacquer Thinner does bond plastic together, however, it makes the plastic RIDGED and BRITTLE. Tamiya Extra Thin Cement & Tamiya Lacquer thinner are NOT the same thing. They are merely similar. Kind of like a Chimpanzee and a human.
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@sammy_dog
@sammy_dog 2 жыл бұрын
you should of use the extra thin to see if it cleaned a cheap Air brush
@MOS6510Models
@MOS6510Models 2 жыл бұрын
I have and it does :) Video coming
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