Moshiach 16 - Tisha B'av, The Fall of Persia, and Moshiach ben Dovid

Why did Reish Lakish - who lived in Israel - get upset at the Babylonian Rabba bar Bar Chana? Would the Beis Hamikdash have been destroyed if all the Jews returned from Bavel when it was built? What is the prerequisite for the Divine Presence to dwell upon the Holy Temple? Why can't the third Beis Hamikdash be built with the permission of the nations of the world? Why will the Persians be destroyed if they were the ones who allowed the second Temple to be built? Why does the Moshiach ben Yosef process begin with the permission of the Nations, which is not the case with Moshiach ben Dovid? Why did we rebuild in 1948 with the permission of Harry Truman, but in 1967 - we received Judea and Samaria, and the Har Habayis and Jerusalem against the will of the Nations? We discuss all these things and more in the 16th Moshiach Podcast.

[@JadesNews]

Be blessed.

[@YosefDanielMusic]

SHKOYACH

[@mdevorah6833]

Totally agree! Do not rely on principalities!

[@Meow-ks3dj]

Thank You 🙏🏻 😭

[@thomasjmj1]

“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn. Zechariah 12:10

[@AriGoldwag]

yes it's talking about the Jewish people who have been repeatedly pierced by the nations of the world. not a false messiah. you need to learn scripture in context and not try to fit a different religion into the original.

[@thomasjmj1]

@@AriGoldwag they look on me. Who is this they? Who is this me? Forget about different religion and false messiah. You have an obligation to interpret to your own people. Don't worry about other perspectives.

[@thomasjmj1]

And he who is left in Zion and remains in Jerusalem will be called holy, everyone who has been recorded for life in Jerusalem, when the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion and cleansed the bloodstains of Jerusalem from its midst by a spirit of judgment and by a spirit of burning. Isaiah 4:3‭-4. This will be the final result.

[@thomasjmj1]

As a neighbour from Cochin, I can assure you we never pierced but preserved and nurtured all these 2000 years.

[@AriGoldwag]

@@thomasjmj1 the nations of the world look at us, the Jews, because they regret the terrible persecutions that they put us through over the last 2000 years in the name of the their false idol they called god.

[@TheMikew79]

Very interesting, what is the source I can read more about prophecy returning when the majority of Jews are in Israel? I was actually looking for that recently

[@lenaposner8344]

Toda raba ari

[@gavrielweinberg]

Thanks

[@davidadammichaelchen]

💙

[@noemihernandezmarsula4040]

Great teaching . BH If every. Jew think like you the world and Israel be on a different place.

[@mdevorah6833]

So does that mean "the angels build it?" Therefore it comes out of the heavens?

[@yvonnegordon1952]

the PEOPLE of Israel are the HOLY TEMPLE (the inner court is the heart of this temple that must become as ONE MAN with one heart):

[@yvonnegordon1952]

Israel is the inner experience of the people who went into covenant with HASHEM: FIRST the people return (REPENT) do teshuvah) to the INNER court, the HOLY PLACE which is the true land of Israel that MANIFESTS outwardly: THOSE who come to land Israel without this covenant are not going to be part of it but it will push them out of it:

[@yvonnegordon1952]

Shem (NAME) are those who went into covenant with HaSHEM and these are the ones in the TENT (tabernacle) who kept their TRUE SUKKOT meaning they WENT UP to this place (MAKOM) where Hashem and them unite:

[@yvonnegordon1952]

Jahphet (YAH OPENS) are those who dwell in these tents because they OPEN the DOOR to it: Ham (HOT) are those who will serve them: SHEMITES are then the SPIRITS (RUACH qodesh) that is JOINED to HASHEM and Japhet is the DOOR of the heart that opens this place and Ham are those who serve, meaning the LOWER MIND, the carnal mind that serves the SOUL and HEART of those joined to the RUACH qodesh of haSHEM in the heart: These three are the "WILL, HEART and MIND" of the PEOPLE of God: ALL NATIONS will be ONE with the PEOPLE OF ISRAEL:

[@yvonnegordon1952]

the SOUL in other words can be IN ANY BODY (animal) so you can't judge the nations by their covering (animals Hashem put Adam and Eve into): OUT of every nation are the SOULS OF ABRAHAM, the father of "MANY" nations: Never confuse the outer with the inner man of the heart:

[@josefradlingmayer4904]

Hosea 13:9You have destroyed yourself, O Israel, for [you have rebelled] against Me, against your help. [Israel] טשִֽׁחֶתְךָ֥ יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל כִּֽי־בִ֥י בְעֶזְרֶֽךָ: 10I will be, where is your king? Now let him save you in all your cities, and your judges, concerning whom you said, "Give me a king and princes." יאֱהִ֚י מַלְכְּךָ֙ אֵפ֔וֹא וְיוֹשִֽׁיֽעֲךָ֖ בְּכָל־עָרֶ֑יךָ וְשֹׁ֣פְטֶ֔יךָ אֲשֶׁ֣ר אָמַ֔רְתָּ תְּנָה־לִּ֖י מֶ֥לֶךְ וְשָׂרִֽים: 11I gave you a king with My wrath and I took [him] away with My fury. [MbD ; 2000 Years ago] יאאֶֽתֶּן־לְךָ֥ מֶ֙לֶךְ֙ בְּאַפִּ֔י וְאֶקַּ֖ח בְּעֶבְרָתִֽי: 12The iniquity of Ephraim is bound up; his sin is laid away. יבצָרוּר֙ עֲו‍ֹ֣ן אֶפְרָ֔יִם צְפוּנָ֖ה חַטָּאתֽוֹ: 13Pangs of a woman in confinement shall come to him: he is an unwise son, for it is a time that he shall not stand in the birthstool of the children. יגחֶבְלֵ֥י יֽוֹלֵדָ֖ה יָבֹ֣אוּ ל֑וֹ הוּא־בֵן֙ לֹ֣א חָכָ֔ם כִּֽי־עֵ֥ת לֹא־יַֽעֲמֹ֖ד בְּמִשְׁבַּ֥ר בָּנִֽים: [MbY ; Ephraim {priest in the order of Melchizedek}]

[@yvonnegordon1952]

I had a Revelation that the second temple is the DOME OF THE ROCK but Israel is not aware of it being the temple yet because of their lack of understanding Mashiach: It is a totally different pattern: ROUND like the final gathering of Israel that is also of the nations: The people of Israel are the heart of it but there is no more need for sacrifice as in the first and second temple and the LIGHT IS now for the nations from the inner court to the uttermost part of the earth: Ishmael (man who heard God) is when the Persians (beautiful place) also hear the truth of Mashiach that is revealed through the people of Israel whom they will not only hear but see as the suffering servant who brought forth Mashiach through King David (THE WILL that is connected to haShem through the heart (BELOVED):

[@yvonnegordon1952]

it is even written the DAILY SACRIFICE (TAMID) shall end:

[@susanhamlin9454]

Tisha B'Av came from a 16th Century Rabbi Joseph Caro it did not come from Hashem 17th of Tammuz also came from a Rabbi Aharon Berachia ben Moshe in 1635 it did not come from Hashem. Deut. 4:2 Do not add to or take away from Torah. Zechariah 1:3 Return to Me and I will Return to you said Hashem.

[@AriGoldwag]

No, it's from the times of Tanach, with the destruction of the first temple. See Zecharia 8:19 - the fast of the fourth month (17th of Tamuz) fast of the 5th month (9th of Av) fast of the seventh month (Gedaliah) fast of the tenth month (10th of Teves) - will be returned to days of joy when the Temple is rebuilt. See Exodus 12:2 - the month of Nissan (when we celebrate Pesach) is the first of the months. Our tradition goes back thousands of years. It was not made up some hundreds of years ago. Please study more before commenting.

[@shanelaws2622]

devastation speaks to no god and claims honor for their contraptions